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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Howard on October 24, 2008, 04:28:46 PM
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It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding card. My stopping the juice had little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.
Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
Howard
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here we go again
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It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding card. My stopping the juice and little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.
Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
Howard
shut up no one here cares now get back on the juice
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geezus Howard udnerstand something---no one fucking cares about you. Everyone on this board thinks you are a piece of shit. Why do you continue to post?
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shut up no one here cares now get back on the juice
Maybe not ;D
Look, I have nothing against a guy who uses whatever drugin his/her personal traing for whatever reason .
(* not being able to enforce the actual IFBB drug rules FOR pro contests seems bad, but I digress...)
If you lift for your own personal reasons, it is YOUR choice alone what to take/not take.
I think this issue and why I stopped may be of some interest to others here at GET BIG.
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geezus Howard udnerstand something---no one fucking cares about you. Everyone on this board thinks you are a piece of shit. Why do you continue to post?
Agreed, get lost Howard!!!
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Oh brother, your Test levels are probably at the rate of a 6 year old girl ::)..
Just cruise on 200 mg Test e/c /week. Might as well
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ban this clown >:(
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You can add me to the list of brothers who absolutely doesn't give a shit. Your tirade is getting old... screw the Androgel too. Ask your doctor for some test cyp instead.
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geezus Howard udnerstand something---no one fucking cares about you. Everyone on this board thinks you are a piece of shit. Why do you continue to post?
I am sure some do think I am shit.
The reality is that I have been in the sport for 3 decades, still serve as an NPC judge and competed in a buttload of shows myself . I have no idea who does what in actual bodybuilding but here is my impression.
Most that post negative crap on here , rarely compete (if ever ) and rarely go to actual shows,never mind judge or promote a show .
Nothing wrong with being a gym lifter anf fan of the sport. BUT, in my humble opinion, the most negative posters are the ones LEAST involved in actual bodybuilding contests. This results in a "forum/online " only interaction of bodybuilding. The boards can be fun and are fine. But it can't replace being a part of actual contests as a fan , judge, or competitor, etc.
The actial shows and expos are pretty fun and positive overall.If I all I knew of bodybuilding was from the boards I would be negative all the time as well.
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You'll have to speak up. Us peons can't understand you all the way up on your high horse like that.
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You can add me to the list of brothers who absolutely doesn't give a shit. Your tirade is getting old... screw the Androgel too. Ask your doctor for some test cyp instead.
For starters the Androgel is to keep me at ideal levels for health and vitality NOT pure bodybuilding.
I don't mind some critcla reply, just curious why some of you have no interest in some objective info by someone that has actually been in the sport of bodybuilding for years and even used roids and then stopped.
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I am sure some do think I am shit.
The reality is that I have been in the sport for 3 decades, still serve as an NPC judge and competed in a buttload of shows myself . I have no idea who does what in actual bodybuilding but here is my impression.
Most that post negative crap on here , rarely compete (if ever ) and rarely go to actual shows,never mind judge or promote a show .
Nothing wrong with being a gym lifter anf fan of the sport. BUT, in my humble opinion, the most negative posters are the ones LEAST involved in actual bodybuilding contests. This results in a "forum/online " only interaction of bodybuilding. The boards can be fun and are fine. But it can't replace being a part of actual contests as a fan , judge, or competitor, etc.
The actial shows and expos are pretty fun and positive overall.If I all I knew of bodybuilding was from the boards I would be negative all the time as well.
we dont hate you re: the bodybuilding---you were outted as a pedo.
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You'll have to speak up. Us peons can't understand you all the way up on your high horse like that.
I am just a Joe Blow avg Mr Never was wannabe like most here.
I am not rich or famous but love bodybuilding and enjoy being involved in it.
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For starters the Androgel is to keep me at ideal levels for health and vitality NOT pure bodybuilding.
I don't mind some critcla reply, just curious why some of you have no interest in some objective info by someone that has actually been in the sport of bodybuilding for years and even used roids and then stopped.
It's the elitist attitude. I don't care if you're Arnold, you talk to us like we're a bunch of skull fucking assholes. And this is why you get no respect.
I could appreciate the fact that you don't care for steroids and other drugs, but when you try to shove your opinion down everyone's throat it becomes a moot point. No one cares anymore. I also suggested the test cyp for overall quality of life enhancements. Androgel looks fine and dandy on paper but it's not very efficacious. If your doctor tells you that your blood work is coming in fine then that's good. That's all that really matters. But I'd opt for some test cyp instead of smearing shitty salves all over myself. I'd also try to get a higher dosage of test cyp but that's just me.
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we dont hate you re: the bodybuilding---you were outted as a pedo.
Aaaaaaahhhh, I am no pedo, you guys know that ,but want to keep up this endless diatribe.
Fine , it is an open forum, but I am clueless as to why we have the endless dribble ,of the same lame rumor.
Lame attacks don't get me upset nor do they make me laugh. I just shake my head, and move on.
Have fun
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Aaaaaaahhhh, I am no pedo, you guys know that ,but want to keep up this endless diatribe.
Fine , it is an open forum, but I am clueless as to why we have the endless dribble ,of the same lame rumor.
Lame attacks don't get me upset nor do they make me laugh. I just shake my head, and move on.
Have fun
Welcome to the club. :D
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Welcome to the club. :D
I dont think many attack you Bay---ur pretty cool
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It's the elitist attitude. I don't care if you're Arnold, you talk to us like we're a bunch of skull fucking assholes. And this is why you get no respect.
I could appreciate the fact that you don't care for steroids and other drugs, but when you try to shove your opinion down everyone's throat it becomes a moot point. No one cares anymore. I also suggested the test cyp for overall quality of life enhancements. Androgel looks fine and dandy on paper but it's not very efficacious. If your doctor tells you that your blood work is coming in fine then that's good. That's all that really matters. But I'd opt for some test cyp instead of smearing shitty salves all over myself. I'd also try to get a higher dosage of test cyp but that's just me.
Hmmm, decent reply , thanks.
Ok for the Androgel my blood tests have been stable for the past few years so I am sticking with it.
I don't think the cyp suggestion was a bad one, I used to use it back in the day when I was on a cycle.
I don't get the elite claim, but thanks for the feedback. I try to be either postive, on topic or funny.
Unlike many here I rarely attack anyone either.
I honestly don't consider myself as elite. I am an avg guy , who teaches and enjoys lifting, no more , no less.
I also think a sensible dailogue on BOTH sides of the roid issue are the key to some open, serious dialogue.
Saying roid use is the end all be all, is as lame as saying roids don't work
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I am sure some do think I am shit.
I imagine it's more than "some"
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I am no pedo,
are you republican? :D
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I dont think many attack you Bay---ur pretty cool
ditto that.
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I imagine it's more than "some"
Now THAT was funny. Good crack, classic get big, I give it an 8.
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props to u howard for being honest and having the courage to type up your story and post here on this sesspool
i hope to someday share my similar story about steroids and my reason for being natural
take care
gene
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are you republican? :D
>:(
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props to u howard for being honest and having the courage to type up your story and post here on this sesspool
i hope to someday share my similar story about steroids and my reason for being natural
take care
gene
Thanks and I think more should hear that while you need some juice to be a pro, you don't need it to build a decent healthy physique and enjoy the sport on your own terms.
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It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding card. My stopping the juice had little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.
Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
Howard
Thanks Howie that was solid advice.... unfortunately it's not that easy to follow :'(
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thread title = " why i got off the juice ? "
inside the thread =
Today, I use prescribed Androgel
howard stop lying to yourself
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Thanks Howie that was solid advice.... unfortunately it's not that easy to follow :'(
It is once you realize the underlying motivation to juice in the first place.
Most of us just want to push our own limits and look impressive, etc.
If you can get content with the idea of doing things to your own standard and ideals it gets easier to stop doing the juice.
Howard
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geezus Howard udnerstand something---no one fucking cares about you. Everyone on this board thinks you are a piece of shit. Why do you continue to post?
you should not be so judgemetal when your an unemployed loser on depression and loony meds and challenging teen boys to fights on a forum
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here we go again
isn't their a juice board? Errrr, a Juice Stand ;D
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My andro always leaves white streaks on me no matter how thinly I spread it so I asked for shots once a week as well and got those luckily.
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here we go again
;D
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It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding card. My stopping the juice had little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.
Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
Howard
You don't know the power of the Darkside.
Once you turn, there is no going back.....
DIV
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you sound bitter?
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You make gay threads Howard.
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maybe Howard don't like juice.
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Maybe he should've upped the dosage, trained harder and ate more. He probably would've liked the juice then.
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You don't know the power of the Darkside.
Once you turn, there is no going back.....
DIV
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Maybe he should've upped the dosage, trained harder and ate more. He probably would've liked the juice then.
maybe he don't want to get "too big" CM.
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maybe he don't want to get "too big" CM.
Good point Quaker. Maybe he was scaring off women because of the violent amount of mass he was carrying... all 180 pounds of it.
BTW, what is your favorite flavor of Quaker Oats?
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Good point Quaker. Maybe he was scaring off women because of the violent amount of mass he was carrying... all 180 pounds of it.
BTW, what is your favorite flavor of Quaker Oats?
i buy the big box at Sams, plain.
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i buy the big box at Sams, plain.
Quite a risky choice bro.
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Quite a risky choice bro.
why is that stud?
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are you republican? :D
Sounded like something a Repubic would say
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why is that stud?
I was just teasin ya for buying plain flavor ;D
I get those boxes with all the different flavors... maple and brown sugar, cinnamon, cinnamon and apple. I have some big ass bags of the plain flavor tho and sometimes just put em in a shake and blend em up.
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:-\ leave howard alone and who cares if i`m know he has to let out issues somewhere and he chose here
great first post ::)
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It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding card. My stopping the juice had little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.
Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
Howard
SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH YOU OLD PIECE OF SHIT.
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The END is the SAME.
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The END is the SAME.
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It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding card. My stopping the juice had little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.
Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
Howard
a-and...the point of you sharing this with the forum is? ::)
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props to u howard for being honest and having the courage to type up your story and post here on this sesspool
i hope to someday share my similar story about steroids and my reason for being natural
take care
gene
Natural Wonder used to rent his anus out for test, now he just lets dudes in his guts for the fun of it.
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It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding card. My stopping the juice had little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.
Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
Howard
Meltdown.
I love juice. Starting with SLIN jan 1. Another 15 pounds of mass baby!
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Bro i can slap on a cape and tights and tell everyone that I'm going to try to be a pro super hero. However, unless I place in the top 10 at the Nationals(in super hero school), it would only be a vivid pipe dream and I would be living a delusional life...None thinks they are ever going to be pro unless they are delusional or at the National level...
So which one were you? And if you were delusional, I think the best thing to do is get yourself on some high dose seroquel and stop trying to let us all no how retarded you were...
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I am sure some do think I am shit.
The reality is that I have been in the sport for 3 decades, still serve as an NPC judge and competed in a buttload of shows myself . I have no idea who does what in actual bodybuilding but here is my impression.
Most that post negative crap on here , rarely compete (if ever ) and rarely go to actual shows,never mind judge or promote a show .
Nothing wrong with being a gym lifter anf fan of the sport. BUT, in my humble opinion, the most negative posters are the ones LEAST involved in actual bodybuilding contests. This results in a "forum/online " only interaction of bodybuilding. The boards can be fun and are fine. But it can't replace being a part of actual contests as a fan , judge, or competitor, etc.
The actial shows and expos are pretty fun and positive overall.If I all I knew of bodybuilding was from the boards I would be negative all the time as well.
Spoton Howard ... I've been pointing this out every since I joined getbig ...
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It's the elitist attitude. I don't care if you're Arnold, you talk to us like we're a bunch of skull fucking assholes. And this is why you get no respect.
I could appreciate the fact that you don't care for steroids and other drugs, but when you try to shove your opinion down everyone's throat it becomes a moot point. No one cares anymore. I also suggested the test cyp for overall quality of life enhancements. Androgel looks fine and dandy on paper but it's not very efficacious. If your doctor tells you that your blood work is coming in fine then that's good. That's all that really matters. But I'd opt for some test cyp instead of smearing shitty salves all over myself. I'd also try to get a higher dosage of test cyp but that's just me.
you are one major moron and your post only reinforces that .
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Oh brother, your Test levels are probably at the rate of a 6 year old girl ::)..
Just cruise on 200 mg Test e/c /week. Might as well
hios probably dating a 6 yr old
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I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that.
Yet for you it did. Clerks at Best Buy make more than public school teachers.
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Yet for you it did. Clerks at Best Buy make more than public school teachers.
My aunt teaches in the public schools system in Detroit . She makes close to 100 k ... I'm sure there are unfortunate entry level casas....but still...
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My aunt teaches in the public schools system in Detroit . She makes close to 100 k ...
Only if she's hooking or dealing on the side.
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you sound bitter?
Not at all. I am greatful , I made the right decision for my overall quality of life.
I did ok and was in about 40 shows from '78-95. If I did another contest it would be in the over 50 and for personal reasons rather than any delusions of glory 8)
Here is pic of me last yr while on cruise having fun. Obviously I would need to drop wt to compete , but I am doing ok for 50 yr old fart. I am 5'10" and currently weigh 248 lbs.
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Only if she's hooking or dealing on the side.
you are obviously a moron .
she's been with detroit public schools since 86'
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Good point Quaker. Maybe he was scaring off women because of the violent amount of mass he was carrying... all 180 pounds of it.
BTW, what is your favorite flavor of Quaker Oats?
I was 180 lbs for my first show back in 1978 after 9 mos of serious training LOL
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You can add me to the list of brothers who absolutely doesn't give a shit. Your tirade is getting old... screw the Androgel too. Ask your doctor for some test cyp instead.
That's what I did! Now, when I travel, I can carry the legit stuff in my bag without any threats of arrest so long as it has the prescription label on it! ;D
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Not at all. I am greatful , I made the right decision for my overall quality of life.
I did ok and was in about 40 shows from '78-95. If I did another contest it would be in the over 50 and for personal reasons rather than any delusions of glory 8)
Here is pic of me last yr while on cruise having fun. Obviously I would need to drop wt to compete , but I am doing ok for 50 yr old fart. I am 5'10" and currently weigh 248 lbs.
Big guns, Howard.
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you are obviously a moron .
she's been with detroit public schools since 86'
No teacher makes 100k. Especially not in a place like Detroit. If you'd said 50 I might have believed you. If she tells you she makes $100k, she's lying to you, I don't care if she's been there since the 1950's.
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Big guns, Howard.
Thanks, the only "problem" is my waist is now, also like my guns "BIG".
As for teacher salary in metro schools, the top end of the scale is close to 100k now.
My district,for example, the scale starts at around 40k for a BS/BA and no experience to just under 90k for a PhD and 28 or more yrs of experience. I currently have 19 yrs experience and a doctorate, so I do ok.
Teaching will never get you rich or famous but in all modesty,I think it is a meaningful , stable career.
Oh well, as dr Spock once said ; " Live long and prosper"
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As for teacher salary in metro schools, the top end of the scale is close to 100k now.
My district,for example, the scale starts at around 40k for a BS/BA and no experience to just under 90k for a PhD and 28 or more yrs of experience. I currently have 19 yrs experience and a doctorate, so I do ok.
Most teachers do not have doctorates. And "just under 90k" is not 100k. And Atlanta is a richer district than detroit.
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Most teachers do not have doctorates. And "just under 90k" is not 100k. And Atlanta is a richer district than detroit.
Oh I agree with you, my pt is that you can work up to a decent living if you pursue an advanced degree like me and many others, or go into administration. All 4 in admin in my school make over 100k a yr.
I had a lot of lean years working my up when I taught in Louisiana, trust me.
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Thanks, the only "problem" is my waist is now, also like my guns "BIG".
As for teacher salary in metro schools, the top end of the scale is close to 100k now.
My district,for example, the scale starts at around 40k for a BS/BA and no experience to just under 90k for a PhD and 28 or more yrs of experience. I currently have 19 yrs experience and a doctorate, so I do ok.
Teaching will never get you rich or famous but in all modesty,I think it is a meaningful , stable career.
Oh well, as dr Spock once said ; " Live long and prosper"
YOU LOOK LIKE A DWARF!
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YOU LOOK LIKE A DWARF!
Now THAT was funny! I give it a 7 overall on the Get BIG scale however.
I do look a tad stubby I admit that ;D
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Oh I agree with you, my pt is that you can work up to a decent living if you pursue an advanced degree like me and many others, or go into administration. All 4 in admin in my school make over 100k a yr.
I had a lot of lean years working my up when I taught in Louisiana, trust me.
Howard, since you have your PhD, why didn't you go into college teaching, try to become a tenured prof? I'd think the $ would be better.
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Bro i can slap on a cape and tights and tell everyone that I'm going to try to be a pro super hero. However, unless I place in the top 10 at the Nationals(in super hero school), it would only be a vivid pipe dream and I would be living a delusional life...None thinks they are ever going to be pro unless they are delusional or at the National level...
So which one were you? And if you were delusional, I think the best thing to do is get yourself on some high dose seroquel and stop trying to let us all no how retarded you were...
I remember thinking the same kind of thing at the last Arnold Expo. All kinda of guys were lined to but that HALO from Muscle Tech. The next exotic drug or supplement will always have somebody willing to use it with dreams of glory.
The reality is that Dexter Jackson is a product of hard work in the gym basic food and great genetics. The drugs just put him over the top. Some refuse to give up on the delusion. At least with a lottery ticket you have a 1 in a million shot to win.
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Howard, since you have your PhD, why didn't you go into college teaching, try to become a tenured prof? I'd think the $ would be better.
Not true unless you get a lot of research grants
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Not true unless you get a lot of research grants
Maybe you could co-author a paper on "The Theory of Hypertrophy" with Basile? I'm sure foundations would be lining up to fund that one.
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No teacher makes 100k. Especially not in a place like Detroit. If you'd said 50 I might have believed you. If she tells you she makes $100k, she's lying to you, I don't care if she's been there since the 1950's.
You dumb fuck ...she's with the DPS system for a while ...I know exactly what she makes because I did her finances and investments for a while fuckface .
Don't open your mouth as you are officially a MORON. ...
By the way : there are people on that board who make wellover 100 k ...
Where do these retards come from ?
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You dumb fuck ...she's with the DPS system for a while ...I know exactly what she makes because I did her finances and investments for a while fuckface .
Don't open your mouth as you are officially a MORON. ...
By the way : there are people on that board who make wellover 100 k ...
Where do these retards come from ?
So she's in Detroit and goes to a Romanian financial advisor? LOL.
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So she's in Detroit and goes to a Romanian financial advisor? LOL.
my thoughts exactly--lol
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my thoughts exactly--lol
This "sevastastsast" guy is a modern miracle....bber, tennis pro, powerlifter, porn star, financial advisor........I'm sure there are tons of other claims I am missing.....
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Maybe you could co-author a paper on "The Theory of Hypertrophy" with Basile? I'm sure foundations would be lining up to fund that one.
Oh yeah we would get a buttload of grants for that study hehehe.
I came over to the ATL area to first get a position as a physics prof at S. Polytech, but the HS job paid more in terms of basic salary with no research/publications requirements.
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It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding card. My stopping the juice had little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.
Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
Howard
Good post Howard.
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Dont talk shit to my granpa! Leave him alone bitches!!
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.....search your feelings.
You know it be true.
At one point or another we all turn to the Darkside.
It is your destiny.
DIV
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shut up no one here cares now get back on the juice
Obviously you do, or you wouldn't be so upset lil bud
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Why does everyone hate Howard? ???
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Why does everyone hate Howard? ???
ONE WORD, PEDO! PROVEN BY BENZ AND TA!
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Good post Howard.
Thanks TC glad you enjoyed it. Obviously, with my past I don't look down on anyone who juices.
My main issue is all the possible baggage that can go with it.
Some go for years doing a few cycles with no problems but most are not so careful.
Howard
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.....search your feelings.
You know it be true.
At one point or another we all turn to the Darkside.
It is your destiny.
DIV
OMG! Div, what's up dude?
Nah, I tried the juice for a few years many years ago and it was ok, but not my thing overall.