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Title: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Slapper on October 25, 2008, 02:10:51 PM
I guess this graph says it all. Note: This person was voted into office TWICE by the American people.


(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/28/deficit.gif)

A brilliant testament to the "we want a smaller government" crowd.

God, if they win the following election I'll shot myself.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Hereford on October 25, 2008, 02:11:44 PM
Can you put that in writing?  :)
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Busted on October 25, 2008, 02:12:50 PM
Quality Conservative.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Slapper on October 25, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
While they had us worried out of our minds with "muslims" and other unexistant enemies these people were working 24/7 moving all manufacturing capacity to 3rd world countries and creating the biggest hole in the trade deficit since trade data was first recorded:


(http://beacheconomist.com/images/TradeDeficitOct07.jpg)

Vote republican people!!! They are the real patriots!!!
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: danielson on October 25, 2008, 02:25:37 PM
He did an excellent job defending our country and cleaning up the mess Clinton left us with.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: OzmO on October 25, 2008, 02:32:14 PM
What mess?   Is a surplus a mess?


I get it guys!  I'm always hearing dems raise taxes.  I'm always hearing dems increase spending.   

Well the graph says they do it responsibly while what the ever the fvkcing repubs do they increase spending and increase debt.

So what the fvck?
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Slapper on October 25, 2008, 02:41:05 PM
I think he was being sarchastic...

I hope so.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: OzmO on October 25, 2008, 02:42:39 PM
I think he was being sarchastic...

I hope so.

I doubt it.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Slapper on October 25, 2008, 05:37:17 PM
Oh, and by the way, the first graph has not been corrected to include the 850 billion package he just signed.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: OzmO on October 25, 2008, 05:38:07 PM
What mess?   Is a surplus a mess?


I get it guys!  I'm always hearing dems raise taxes.  I'm always hearing dems increase spending.   

Well the graph says they do it responsibly while what the ever the fvkcing repubs do they increase spending and increase debt.

So what the fvck?


CRICKETS
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Slapper on October 25, 2008, 05:55:55 PM
Actually we need at least a decade of non-stop, uninterrupted surpluses in order to even begin to repay the deficit.

People have to realise that when a government has to spend more money than it's got it's really being lent to us by other countries, but the tab will always be handed to the American People and their children.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 25, 2008, 09:42:14 PM
that chart single handedly pwns he shit out of all republican economic ideals.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: gcb on October 25, 2008, 10:07:34 PM
I don't understand those graphs make Carter look ok - so are these repubs lying or just deluded when they say Carter was crap?
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Slapper on October 26, 2008, 05:49:21 AM
I don't understand those graphs make Carter look ok - so are these repubs lying or just deluded when they say Carter was crap?

Of course they're lying!! Carter wasn't even 1/8th as bad, from a fiscal point of view, as, for example, Ronald Reagan. Bush has just multiplied republican stupidity (which requires The People's passive acquiesence mind you!) tenfold. 

We can honestly say that since Gore lost the presidential election because of what Clinton had done, Bill-O's blowjob has cost the American people well over a trillion dollars. Not counting that brilliant #### SCUMBAG Kenneth Starr spent on bringing the case to court, which was about ½ billion dollars. Which coould've better been spent on the... Katrina victims for example?

These are the kind of thing we're up against.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: CQ on October 26, 2008, 06:29:43 AM
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Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: qiniz on October 26, 2008, 08:43:14 AM
I guess this graph says it all. Note: This person was voted into office TWICE by the American people.


(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/28/deficit.gif)

A brilliant testament to the "we want a smaller government" crowd.

God, if they win the following election I'll shot myself.

Seriously how can you ignore these facts and still vote for Mccain. Amazing how dumb certain people are. Plain dumb
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Slapper on October 26, 2008, 09:00:21 AM
I don't understand those graphs make Carter look ok - so are these repubs lying or just deluded when they say Carter was crap?

I think that one of the biggest mistakes the Carter administration was not to open up the doors of the Fed to Big Business. That is the only thing I see him doing "wrong". The worst one, aside from fuckface Junior, was Reagan. He just opened up the floodgates while selling the "It's morning in America" bullshit story in all it's glory.

It's really sad how little we care for the future generations. The next time I hear someone say "children are our future" I'll respond with a "shut the fuck up!!".
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: OzmO on October 26, 2008, 11:47:35 AM
BUMP for the nipple whores.



response?

Please explain the idea of being fiscally conservative.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: qiniz on October 27, 2008, 01:26:07 PM
2nd bump
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Option D on October 27, 2008, 01:36:16 PM
lol
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: OzmO on October 27, 2008, 01:39:56 PM
where are you conservatives who vote republican?
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Buffgeek on October 27, 2008, 01:46:06 PM
BUMP for the nipple whores.



response?

Please explain the idea of being fiscally conservative.

No one can deny that Bush has been a spending whore but if you just take a look at Bush's Presidency you have to factor in what has happened...


1. 2001 Dotcom bubble/Wallstreet Scandals: Market went out of control on overspeculation and rapidly rising tech stocks then eventually plummeted. In addition you had numerous acts of fraud from high profile organizations such as Enron.

2. 911. Our market if based very much on percieved value and we took another huge hit in 2001 when the trade towers went down. This has a huge impact on our nation as well as our economy as we increased spending on national security within our borders and created a new cabinet to oversee our homeland security.

3. Afganistan/Iraq: Afganistan was a direct attack on those who purpotrated the attacks agaisnt us. This campaign was an lage expense, then you had the UN resolution that we followed up on to invade Iraq.  


Now factor in these things and you can see how the surplus turned to shit. Through all of these crisis, this president has gotten us through with relatively little impact to our daily lives by yes.... spending a shit ton of money. What were the alternatives? This president has arguably faced more aversity than almost any other president in recent history.

Take a look at this latest crisis and you will see very few democrats agrue with his course of action these past few weeks.

I personlly hate his spending policies, but in the long run, I think W will be remember far better than we think today.

Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: qiniz on October 27, 2008, 02:23:37 PM
No one can deny that Bush has been a spending whore but if you just take a look at Bush's Presidency you have to factor in what has happened...


1. 2001 Dotcom bubble/Wallstreet Scandals: Market went out of control on overspeculation and rapidly rising tech stocks then eventually plummeted. In addition you had numerous acts of fraud from high profile organizations such as Enron.

2. 911. Our market if based very much on percieved value and we took another huge hit in 2001 when the trade towers went down. This has a huge impact on our nation as well as our economy as we increased spending on national security within our borders and created a new cabinet to oversee our homeland security.

3. Afganistan/Iraq: Afganistan was a direct attack on those who purpotrated the attacks agaisnt us. This campaign was an lage expense, then you had the UN resolution that we followed up on to invade Iraq.  


Now factor in these things and you can see how the surplus turned to shit. Through all of these crisis, this president has gotten us through with relatively little impact to our daily lives by yes.... spending a shit ton of money. What were the alternatives? This president has arguably faced more aversity than almost any other president in recent history.

Take a look at this latest crisis and you will see very few democrats agrue with his course of action these past few weeks.

I personlly hate his spending policies, but in the long run, I think W will be remember far better than we think today.



How do you figure?
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Buffgeek on October 27, 2008, 02:30:27 PM
Lol. read my previous post. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent president
Post by: OzmO on October 28, 2008, 07:09:12 AM
No one can deny that Bush has been a spending whore but if you just take a look at Bush's Presidency you have to factor in what has happened...


1. 2001 Dotcom bubble/Wallstreet Scandals: Market went out of control on overspeculation and rapidly rising tech stocks then eventually plummeted. In addition you had numerous acts of fraud from high profile organizations such as Enron.

2. 911. Our market if based very much on percieved value and we took another huge hit in 2001 when the trade towers went down. This has a huge impact on our nation as well as our economy as we increased spending on national security within our borders and created a new cabinet to oversee our homeland security.

3. Afganistan/Iraq: Afganistan was a direct attack on those who purpotrated the attacks agaisnt us. This campaign was an lage expense, then you had the UN resolution that we followed up on to invade Iraq.  


Now factor in these things and you can see how the surplus turned to shit. Through all of these crisis, this president has gotten us through with relatively little impact to our daily lives by yes.... spending a shit ton of money. What were the alternatives? This president has arguably faced more aversity than almost any other president in recent history.

Take a look at this latest crisis and you will see very few democrats agrue with his course of action these past few weeks.

I personlly hate his spending policies, but in the long run, I think W will be remember far better than we think today.



thanks buffgeek.  I agree he had some challenges, but it seems to me those challenges could have been handled much better.  And the pattern seems to stay intact with repub presidents spending like crazy.
Title: Re: So how does Bush Jr's presidency stack up against all other recent presidents?
Post by: Decker on October 28, 2008, 07:26:46 AM
No one can deny that Bush has been a spending whore but if you just take a look at Bush's Presidency you have to factor in what has happened...


1. 2001 Dotcom bubble/Wallstreet Scandals: Market went out of control on overspeculation and rapidly rising tech stocks then eventually plummeted. In addition you had numerous acts of fraud from high profile organizations such as Enron.

2. 911. Our market if based very much on percieved value and we took another huge hit in 2001 when the trade towers went down. This has a huge impact on our nation as well as our economy as we increased spending on national security within our borders and created a new cabinet to oversee our homeland security.

3. Afganistan/Iraq: Afganistan was a direct attack on those who purpotrated the attacks agaisnt us. This campaign was an lage expense, then you had the UN resolution that we followed up on to invade Iraq.  


Now factor in these things and you can see how the surplus turned to shit. Through all of these crisis, this president has gotten us through with relatively little impact to our daily lives by yes.... spending a shit ton of money. What were the alternatives? This president has arguably faced more aversity than almost any other president in recent history.

Take a look at this latest crisis and you will see very few democrats agrue with his course of action these past few weeks.

I personlly hate his spending policies, but in the long run, I think W will be remember far better than we think today.


I agree with you that Bush was handed many big moments.

He dug his own grave for his legacy though.  Why was he cutting trillions in taxes when that money was needed to meet the demands of 9/11 and his illegal war of choice in Iraq?  Why was he kneecapping the government right out of the gate?