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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ursus on October 25, 2008, 05:00:48 PM
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Hypothetically at 10% bf what is the biggest a true natural bbuilder can get? No steroids or PH
Also what is the strongest a 250lb guy at 10% could ever get?
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Hypothetically at 10% bf what is the biggest a true natural bbuilder can get? No steroids or PH
Also what is the strongest a 250lb guy at 10% could ever get?
no 1..
depends on genetics ...plus your question is too broad
second question : does not make sense
go read through gh15's posts: he stated numerous times what the limits are for natties AND hormonized relative to height and bodyfat levels .
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frend,,any one can become national competitor depending on the hormones he uses and wether they are legit human grade or not!
any onec an become a professional if they have good symetry and muscle shape and today you can throw the symetry out the window as in mid 2000s you dont even need that,,
foundation is good to have and thats why some bodybuilders still maintain good shape even if smaller past bodybuilding,,,80% not but 20% walk around with good physiqe because they had foundation ,,,this generation of bodybuuiloders by thw way is dissapearing
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Ok in the top 5% of gentically gifted.
I am asking your opinion
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Ok in the top 5% of gentically gifted.
I am asking your opinion
you don't make sense ...no height, bf % too high ...etc ..
stop drinking and waisting my time with idiotic questions.
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Ok in the top 5% of gentically gifted.
freind,,,best exemple of parfect bodyubilding genetics is PAUL DILLETTE!
god of hormones approved
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ok you have accused me of steroids numerous times.
I am 6'3 and 230lbs 22yrs old abs showing though around 12% i reckon maybe more
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ok you have accused me of steroids numerous times.
I am 6'3 and 230lbs 22yrs old abs showing though around 12% i reckon maybe more
I don't give a fuck about you ...
come back when you can actually bench what you said you do and post a video .
be gone
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I am asking a genuine question.
i said i can bench 375. Ill stand by that.
Why the hate my folically challenged friend?
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Sev laying down the smack.
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The problem is, while you may be able to prove that you bench that, you won't be able to prove that you're natural.
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the human body can naturaly get very strong... of course ti will be stronger faster on hormones.. but there are true naturals who get very very strong.... but they will not look lean and like a bodybuilder... its only when a guy is diced and strong that his strength makes him impossible to be natural.. a natural aint gonna be diced and lifting super heavy.. a natural, if diced, is gonna have minimal strength and only some muscle (compared to competive bodyb buolder not average public)
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Fair point. Only thing i reckon can prove to a reasonable degree i am is photos from teh past 4 years...getting larger slowly etc stronger slowly plus i was big before i ever trained.
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the human body can naturaly get very strong... of course ti will be stronger faster on hormones.. but there are true naturals who get very very strong.... but they will not look lean and like a bodybuilder... its only when a guy is diced and strong that his strength makes him impossible to be natural.. a natural aint gonna be diced and lifting super heavy.. a natural, if diced, is gonna have minimal strength and only some muscle (compared to competive bodyb buolder not average public)
Correct. At 10% we had a 23year old in ireland around 230lbs deadlifted over 700lbs in the idfpa, affialiated to th e wdfpf.
This fella was 6'5 with arms like monkeys...he was etsted on numerous occassions.
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The problem is, while you may be able to prove that you bench that, you won't be able to prove that you're natural.
:D
he said he benches 385 now it's 375 ..hahahaha ...whatever ...
I asked him to post a video ...
He posts a video of a single w/ 335 with his arms shaking like crazy...
he said he won't jeopardize his workouts by posting a single w/ his max weight but he does this :
THIS PHONEY ASKS ME TO GET A CALCULATOR AND COMPUTE HIS MAX BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE SAYS HE DOES 6 REPS W/ 315 ... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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It was always 375lbs i can sssure you this.
The video was of 341lbs after my normal flat benching.
I said surely it is possible for you to believe that 1year ago having done 140kgx6 that i could do 170kg (375lbs) now.
You seem upset my balding buddy
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It was always 375lbs i can sssure you this.
The video was of 341lbs after my normal flat benching.
I said surely it is possible for you to believe that 1year ago having done 140kgx6 that i could do 170kg (375lbs) now.
You seem upset my balding buddy
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beat it , michael
you are embarassing yourself ..
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Correct. At 10% we had a 23year old in ireland around 230lbs deadlifted over 700lbs in the idfpa, affialiated to th e wdfpf.
This fella was 6'5 with arms like monkeys...he was etsted on numerous occassions.
Still no prove of him being natural. I also know powerlifters who claim to not having used the stuff when winning their first competitions (all tested). If I believe them or not is irrelevant, only they know if it's true.
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341lbs pre exhausted
1x25kg 2x20kg 1x2.5kg a side. Whilst not being easy I would be sure i have 15kg left in me
140kgx6 1 year ago
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Still no prove of him being natural. I also know powerlifters who claim to not having used the stuff when winning their first competitions (all tested). If I believe them or not is irrelevant, only they know if it's true.
Only proof is the drugs tests...sent away to WADA lab in Belguim I think.
They watch the piss come from your dick and then sign and seal it. You pick the containers, the pens the seals everything. Its as strict as they could possibly make it within feasability
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no 1..
depends on genetics ...plus your question is too broad
second question : does not make sense
go read through gh15's posts: he stated numerous times what the limits are for natties AND hormonized relative to height and bodyfat levels .
Good reply.
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Only proof is the drugs tests...sent away to WADA lab in Belguim I think.
They watch the piss come from your dick and then sign and seal it. You pick the containers, the pens the seals everything. Its as strict as they could possibly make it within feasability
That's no prove of being natural, just prove of not being retarded.
Or are we talking completely random testing here, anytime during the year?
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competition and out of competition testing. He has passed both
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I don't give a fuck about you ...
come back when you can actually bench what you said you do and post a video .
be gone
HAHAHA!!!!!!!!
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competition and out of competition testing. He has passed both
Not familiar with the W.D.F.P.F. Depends on their method of testing.
In any case, you are one strong mofo. The highest I ever benched was 264.
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120kg is strong man.
Failure to test or refusal automatically results in a lifetime ban in the wdfpf.
Of course the numbers arent as freakishly high as we are used to seieng in PLing comps thanks to their eposure etc on youtube tv, still some fantastic numbers.
Another Irish guy benched 661lbs in a shirt at the 2006 world champs.
Guy is like 350lbs and short stubby arms. UNREAL!
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:D
he said he benches 385 now it's 375 ..hahahaha ...whatever ...
I asked him to post a video ...
He posts a video of a single w/ 335 with his arms shaking like crazy...
he said he won't jeopardize his workouts by posting a single w/ his max weight but he does this :
THIS PHONEY ASKS ME TO GET A CALCULATOR AND COMPUTE HIS MAX BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE SAYS HE DOES 6 REPS W/ 315 ... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
You gotta admit though that he's one thick and strong mofo for a natural.
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also It was never 315...30lbs is 140kg
We work in Kg's in Europe
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You gotta admit though that he's one thick and strong mofo for a natural.
:D
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he's nothing but a liar who exagerates his abilities and finds excuses when he cannot back up his claims ...
he'll mature at some point and come back to reality
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:D
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he's nothing but a liar who exagerates his abilities and finds excuses when he cannot back up his claims ...
he'll mature at some point and come back to reality
Are you saying he lies about his natural status or about his lifts?
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Are you saying he lies about his natural status or about his lifts?
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no 1..
depends on genetics ...plus your question is too broad
second question : does not make sense
go read through gh15's posts: he stated numerous times what the limits are for natties AND hormonized relative to height and bodyfat levels .
And with that you prove you truly are are fukin idiot.. ::)
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And with that you prove you truly are are fukin idiot.. ::)
Actually no. It proves I know how to find and discern good info.
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Actually no. It proves I know how to find and discern good info.
Wrong.His info about what certain drugs do and how they react in certain situations is pretty spot on , the rest is horse shit
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Wrong.His info about what certain drugs do and how they react in certain situations is pretty spot on , the rest is horse shit
And you would know that because .............. :D :D :D...That's right! You don't know shit !
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And you would know that because .............. :D :D :D...That's right! You don't know shit !
(http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Stupid%20Haircut.jpg)
You missed a bit :D
If you beleive what he says when it comes to genetics then you prove my point , and in fact you are the one that does not know shit..
Could I expect more from you though? you have poor genetics for BB so of course you will chant gh15s rubbish because it makes you feel better for being a genetic failure :)
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no 1..
depends on genetics ...plus your question is too broad
second question : does not make sense
go read through gh15's posts: he stated numerous times what the limits are for natties AND hormonized relative to height and bodyfat levels .
GH15 is smart guy but I think he had way too much bias for the juice based physique.
Lots of big boys around that don't need juice to be big and strong.