I posted another thread at the same time that did got a reply....Democrats have a habit of ignoring the hard issues, but I'm here to remind them :-*
Nice try....stay on point.
So do repubs so what's the difference?
...some people don't even know what the responsibilities of the job are they're hoping to get. ;)
Some paid off felons, others called out their running mate and stated he won't be up to the job.
Know any of those? ;)
Again, neither side is perfect...can't you see that? Or like Coach do you believe all conservatives walk on water. ;D
The saddest part of an election year is that you have to vote for the lesser of two evils. :'(
Nobody wants to send mcCain money... Hes the worst Candidate ever
I think that on this topic McCain is WAAAY better than Hussein, limiting himself instead of inciting people to send him money to spend on his ads, instead of getting fat (and illegal like in the original post^^) donations that buy favors from him...come on now....
Hussein WHOLE career is filled with money moving hands and favors being bought....his best friends for years is Rezco...the man who started his political career....come on now....you can't be that blind can you?
You do realize that those donations are from specific people/organizations and they buy favor points through these illegal donations.....or did you miss that part?
And saying that McCain can't raise money goes against all you claimed, so now he isn't in the pocket of big business that like to pay for favor points ....at least be consistent. ::)
You should start more threads, my man.
Gotta let it out.
People are giving Barack the money... It's not coming from taxpayers, but from people who decide to write him the check.
Are you saying people can't give money to whom the wish?
Are you trying to tell people what to do with their money?
Sounds like you're "for" socialism then.
;)
In case you missed it, he gets FRAUDULENT donations.
People like Mickey Mouse donate through his site, basically rich people are buying him up through those donations.
So you're saying if I donate something to him anonymously that it's fraudulent?
If it's my money, I can donate it and put anyone's name I want to right?
Am I missing something?
I'm saying that having TONS of dontations under false names (there are regulations to how much you can donate you know) and those donations get accepted because they TURNED OFF the system that CHECKS the donations....than yes...that's fraudulent!
What system checks donations like that?
If someone gives money to a guy walking down the street with a bucket that says "Barack Obama", who checks that?
I'm saying that having TONS of dontations under false names (there are regulations to how much you can donate you know) and those donations get accepted because they TURNED OFF the system that CHECKS the donations....than yes...that's fraudulent!
I think it's called AVS, similar system to the one that check regular credit cards usage online.
Seriously , stop trying to run around the bush and go check the facts on the story.
If that is the case why dosent mccain bring it up...or do you just have the inside track
I'm just saying that I don't see where anonymous donations are a problem, but that's just me.
Here you go lazy ass:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/06/us/politics/06donate.html
Too much shit on the election on Google, every search I do give me tons of BS too :-\
I already explained it, lets say some dude...lets call him Rezco, donates 199$ each time , a million times.
He tells it to Mr.Hussein but not in public, if Mr.Hussein will be at the white house he will then receive a letter, from an inmate named..hmm....Rezco...as king for a pardon from the president.....just you know...something really really imaginary..... ::) Nothing like that can happen.... ::)
Let's say it does happen like that... And the President pardons people... Would that be unlike any other President?
They all pardon a few undesirables just before they leave office... This is not new.
You have officially lost all credibility, just put "all hail Obama" in your signature!
You don't care if the president will be bought? It can be by criminals, big oil or whatever. Maybe it happens in other manners too, but does that mean you need to allow it o happen in more ways?
WOW!!! You show a complete lack of self thought,back bone and integrity here.
Oh please... go look at past presidents... They most certainly do pardon those who have been found guilty of crimes... Including their own.
Nixon was pardoned remember?
They all pardon people who have obviously been found guilty of something.
Your denial of the truth is much worse than what you think of my credibility.
How is it that you Democrats always try to make two wrongs into a right?
I'm against a president owing someone his victory! No matter who it is! No matter if he plan on pardoning him or helping him with favoritism with contracts or whatever.
I'm against the president being bought! If you can't see that unregulated donations cause that you are living in a bubble!!
I guess I'm in a bubble then, because I would think anonymous donations would mean that they don't know who gave them, so there's no one to owe.
LOL!!!!
I will call you, tell you that tomorrow a million 199$ donations will come in...you will never owe me shit won't you? ::)
Personally, no... Just because someone gives someone money does not mean they feel beholden to them.
Google "bribe" ;)
I honestly can't believe you are this innocent, you just can't stand up like a man and say what you truly think of this subject because you fear that all those previous fraudulent affairs he had (Rezco comes to mind) were all true and that your hero is a fake.
I'm 10000000% sure that if this would have happened to McCain you guys will be scream that those donations come from big oil and the NRA , you would scream for an immediate FBI,CIA and NSA joint investigation.
But since its Hussein ....money is nothing to him....actually this might be true...he is a Communist after all...he doesn't believe in money ..... ::)
BTW where are all the other nut swingers? Seriously now, do you notice how your fellow Democrats never comment on the hard issues? They learned from Biden :D ;)
Again, I don't understand how it's a bribe when there is NO NAME.
You're saying that if I call obama and say that hey... I'm going to give you X amount of dollars, you'll see it... That he'll believe it was me?
Again, I don't see how it's anyone's business who I give my money to... Not yours, not anyone's.
If I decide to anonymously donate MILLIONS to Obama... How is that YOUR business.
I thought you Republican's were trying to stay out of people's wallets? Or am I incorrect there?
1.If someone close to him like Rezco tell him that on this day million dollar in small donations will come in under names X,Y and Z (all false obviously) than he will certainly believe him,why shouldn't he?
Does arranging the transaction of funds under a false name sound so crazy and far fetched? You make it sound like a criminal master plan. All that is needed is to contact him and notify him, obviously not some stranger but someone that he knows and that want his favors (as a possible future president) , plenty of those around won't you agree?
2.Staying out of pocket DOESN'T mean he can take bribes! What if some judge got lots of money from some drug dealer...what do you care? ::)
What if someone that is in charge of a multi billion contracts for the government gets a bribe...what do you care? ::)
Just like that dude from Alaska that was convicted today!! SAME THING!
People that are in public office MUST report such things BECAUSE you invest your TRUST in them and you give them POWER.
I guess we will have to disagree on this... I see no problem with it.
Believe what you want, but if things were reversed and it was McCain, I would have no problem with that either.
Ok if you say it like that then...lets release any public official that ever took bribes ::)so obama took bribes now? You would think that would be a major talking point for the GOP
so obama took bribes now? You would think that would be a major talking point for the GOP
so obama took bribes now? You would think that would be a major talking point for the GOP
2+2 = 5
Taking fraudulent contributions is most certainly the wrong way to go, but obviously you missed the entire two pages of debate here and concluded it's a white man persecuting the black man ::)
Opening a HUGE loophole like allowing whomever to donate how much he wants without reporting it is the WRONG way to go.
Again, I disagree... I think you should be able to give anonymously.
We'll just have to disagree on that.
Even to a judge that is presiding on a trail you have? ;)
Is that even a full question?
I don't understand what you're asking there at all.
You said you support giving anonymously to anyone, so I asked if you support that even in regards to someone that gives money to a judge on his trial?
That's a conflict of interest... The judge is trying HIM specifically.
The two scenarios really don't match up on the level you're trying to equate them to.
That's also against the law... Is there a law against giving a Presidential candidate anonymous donations?
I don't think so.
If I recall correctly the law LIMIT the donations to , by giving false details you can't enforce it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/22/AR2007072201095.html
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"These additional donations are investments by individuals who could seek a favor from the candidate. There are now numerous pockets for political contributors to put their cash into," she said.
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And there is a conflict of interest since the PRESIDENT have the strongest connections in the WORLD!
Bribing him can get you anything from a pardon to a multi BILLION dollar contract being sent to your company.
You not seeing that is pretty sad :-\ :'(
Again, this is not illegal... It is a loophole, yes... but you're saying that it's only Obama who's receiving this windfall... He is not.
You're just focusing on Obama.
If you make it illegal, and someone is caught doing it, then fine... I get it, but in reality, it's just not illegal... It's a loophole... loopholes are gray areas.
If McCain is receiving them in the same manner... I see no issue with him either.
This isn't a loophole it's a felony! If the law prohibit unlimited donation than you must keep track of how much everyone donates. In general any political figure need to have public records of his donations, just like the ones we saw of the donations Fannie Mae did to him and others, all because of the fore mentioned reasons.
The Obama camp was caught allowing this to happen they turned off the security system, McCain camp DIDN'T! You can't donate on a bogus card and with fake details to McCain!
You obviously didn't bother reading any of the stories and thus you think I'm just picking on Obama while this is a VERY serious matter that need to cause alarm bells to ANYONE no matter who he supports.
To summarize it for you, illegal,only Obama camp, bribes, ok?
I read your link... I didn't see Obama's name mentioned.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/while-obama-commits-largest-campaign.html
By turning off their Address Verification System, or AVS, at the Obama website, the Democratic candidate was able to raise a record $150 million in donations last month from millions of donors from all over the world.
Truly- Obama is this country's first international candidate.
If you won't be satisfied unless you see Obama holding a suitcase full of cash than you are either really naive or just swinging way too hard of his nuts.
The donations money trail is obvious, it's to get the seat to Obama, he doesn't need to ever deposit it in an account but just use if for whatever he wants...since like you said..."what do you care what he does with donations".
Incoming another lame reply..... ::)
Sounds like you're butthurt that a black man may be in the White House... Is it about money or is it about McCain's platform is so shaky that he can't win.
Yes... I need to see the money trail... Until then, it's just conjecture.
LOL I don't care about his race, I belong to several minority groups. Please find one racist comment from me?
On the other hand Obama proved he is a racist by his affiliations and sayings (I'm posting a new thread about it now).
Money trail:
1.Fraudulent donations.
2.Fund Obama campaign.
3.Obama gets the seat or not, doesn't matter, he will surely gain allot political power from this election.
4.Obama return a favor through political means on YOUR back and expense to the people that padded his campaign.
Wow...sounds so complicated....must be a 240 conspiracy theory ...oh wait...he is with Obama now and unlike that retard one of the things I do in my job is logical reasoning and the design of logical systems....
Oh wait...it's all due to color....I'm probably blacker than Obama after 2 hours at the beach lol...nice try but you failed.
Ok... if you say so.
Whats so hard to believe me having a natural tan or Obama receiving fraudulent donations...since both are facts ;)Both put him over the top.
Both put him over the top.
You should be marveling at his resourcefulness b/c you'll be following his leadership for the next four years.
How does his skin color put him over the top?
And what is the great pride in breaking the law and get bribed?
BTW you might be following his leadership, but I'm my own man....that's the problem with youCommunistsDemocrats you always want to intervene in everything.
like wall street huh
More like Compton streets! Obama is down with you too big mal! ;D :-*
what on earth are you talking about
How does his skin color put him over the top?All the coloreds voted for him.
And what is the great pride in breaking the law and get bribed?Just win, Baby. The winner writes the history my friend.
BTW you might be following his leadership, but I'm my own man....that's the problem with youGreat. While you are busy being your own man, you will kick in extra tax dollars to fund the free time of people like this:CommunistsDemocrats you always want to intervene in everything.
Mr.Hussein received fraudulent donations = BRIBES
All the coloreds voted for him.
Just win, Baby. The winner writes the history my friend.
Great. While you are busy being your own man, you will kick in extra tax dollars to fund the free time of people like this:
(http://www.3rdeyeopen.org/thought/uploaded_images/melon-790640.jpg)
(http://imspeakingtruth.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/pimp.jpg)
I have a message for you from Obama's wife, she said she wants you to stop swinging off his nuts so hard, she want to fuck her husbend without you swinging there.Join your peers:
Join your peers:
(http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/Pimps_Hillary_Obama.jpg)
And bow down to your leader:
(http://icanplainlysee.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/obama-pimp-25323.jpg)
So how old are you? 6? You have nothing to say to defend your little thief so you post irrelevant messages?
Seem to me you just wanted to "stick it to the white man" and you all are slowly realizing who you put in the driving seat just because of his color and empty speeches that just say "change change".
When one is confronted with moronic points (i.e., anything IFBBeannaB posts), the best recipe for response is scorn and derision with a little caustic humor thrown in.
So how old are you? 6? You have nothing to say to defend your little thief so you post irrelevant messages?
Seem to me you just wanted to "stick it to the white man" and you all are slowly realizing who you put in the driving seat just because of his color and empty speeches that just say "change change".
When one is confronted with moronic points (i.e., anything IFBBeannaB posts), the best recipe for response is scorn and derision with a little caustic humor thrown in.
In other words, you take yourself and your postings seriously while everybody else sees you talking out of your ass.
Unsupported allegations are the currency of your trade. You make asinine accusations and expect people to take you seriously.
Even the shit posted by Meshelle is inconsequential. Wow, a hundred contributors might be suspect. Face it, the people are sick and tired of republican fascists fucking over the rest of the world.
You lost the election. Obama will be president. Let's just hope he's not the mass murdering butcher that your Boy Bush was.
Denial of what?
Massive denial on your part, it's sad.
Denial of what?
Can you explain this? Results 1 - 10 of about 249,000 for mccain illegal donations. (0.17 seconds)
249,000 stories on McCain's illegal donations. Worst of all, he sought the illegal donations:
McCain Inadvertently Solicits Illegal Donation
Republican presidential candidate John McCain has inadvertently requested a political donation of $35-5000 from Russia's UN Ambassador, Vitaly Churkin. McCain is known as a critic of Russia and harshly criticised the nation over Georgia recently.
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=74240
John McCain received nearly $7 million in 6,652 donations that exceeded contribution limits while seeking the Republican presidential nomination, the Democratic National Committee said on Saturday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSTRE49O1U920081025
McCain took illegal contributions from AT&T and Verizon
americablog.com — AT&T and Verizon offered John McCain free cell towers at one of his 12 homes. Why? Because McCain was running for president. They admit this. Corporations aren't allowed under the law to give free donations to presidential candidates. It's illegal. Highly illegal. Oh, and McCain just happens to oversee Telcom companies in the Senate.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/McCain_took_illegal_contributions_from_AT_T_and_Verizon
Well, were are your responses to these? I have another 248,997 stories about McCain's illegal contributions just like them.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/while-obama-commits-largest-campaign.html
Turned off the security system....hmm....I recall seeing some of the donation records that had names like "sdosj asdlkj"....I guess that its just the usual Obama way...don't ask and don't tell...Rezco style ;)
Oh, you're bigger than the issue at hand. Good for you!
Two wrongs doesn't make a right , I thought you claim to be highly intelligent.
THE WORLD BANK FUNDED OBAMA...A ROUND TABLE OF THE RICHEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD...SO THEY CAN USE HIM TO MANIFEST COMMUNISM AROUND THE WORLD....
THATS THE TRUTH HOMIES!!!
So the richest people in the world want communism?
What grade are you in?