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I mean with all the g4p and crazy characters. Society as a whole tends to look down upon bodybuilders.
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I mean with all the g4p and crazy characters. Society as a whole tends to look down upon bodybuilders.
No, "Tom Cruise".
Hope this helps.
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No
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No, "Tom Cruise".
Hope this helps.
Please elaborate!
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No.
Has nothing to do with crazy characters and G4P, though, which the general public knowns nothing about anyway.
It's because of the oiled-up strutting around in thongs, displaying what looks obscene to the normal eye.
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No.
Has nothing to do with crazy characters and G4P, though, which the general public knowns nothing about anyway.
It's because of the oiled-up strutting around in thongs, displaying what looks obscene to the normal eye.
Ok, good point!
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Even female beauty pageants have started to be dismissed as nonsense. So, no, male beauty pageants will never be taken seriously.
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Even female beauty pageants have started to be dismissed as nonsense. So, no, male beauty pageants will never be taken seriously.
Good point! Forget about the competition aspect for a minute. What about the lifestyle in general such as: attitude, clothes, food, training style, awful cliches.
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"SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!
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no
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Out of interest how many accounts can Bluto run at once?
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No..
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hhahahha
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who cares
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who cares
thats right its already ruined,,nothing will bring it back to the way it was back in the 70s-90s
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Of course not.
Professional bodybuilding is a circus. Most of the people just laugh at it, so do I.
And I personally think people who use steroids have a mental illness comparable to anorexia and should seek professional help.
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Very entertaining though.
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why does it matter?
enjoy lifting, flexing, dieting...whatever
why care what people think?
I am a big fan of Formula 1, yet I know people who think its a total joke - so what? doesn't make the sport less exciting
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I mean with all the g4p and crazy characters. Society as a whole tends to look down upon bodybuilders.
bb will never be a 'big time' sport...if you wanna call it a sport lol
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I am a big fan of Formula 1, yet I know people who think its a total joke - so what? doesn't make the sport less exciting
Entirely different category IMO.
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Entirely different category IMO.
There's less oil in Formula One.
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Bodybuilding is a niche, for people who are into dieting, training, and getting in contest shape. To many, just being able to get on stage in shape can be a dream. One guy (Dave) just lost 60 pounds and came on stage looking awesome. That was dedication. People can complain about things, especially as they sit around watching television with their beer bellys, etc instead of going to the gym.
I mean with all the g4p and crazy characters. Society as a whole tends to look down upon bodybuilders.
Come on... you know... most mainstream people dont look at bodybuilding that way. They look at the big guys with a curious awe. They may not like it, but they are interested in it. Like they are in a handball or bowling competition. It isnt for them, although for some it is entertaining.
As for G4P, yes, there is some, but as a whole, I don't see it. And you wont see it at expos, bodybuilding contests, etc... behind the scenes, maybe to a few, but get real. Shall we talk about the sordid world of other sports too.
It's because of the oiled-up strutting around in thongs, displaying what looks obscene to the normal eye.
To the mainstream, again it is quirky. But what is normal for you isnt for others. Come on, to display muscle you need to look good. Shall we have the bodybuilders in shorts? Will that make you feel better?
Good point! Forget about the competition aspect for a minute. What about the lifestyle in general such as: attitude, clothes, food, training style, awful cliches.
Like any things, you need to have discipline. Sometimes i wish I had some.
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There's less oil in Formula One.
actually there is more: engine oil?;)
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actually there is more: engine oil?;)
Comedy isnt your strong point?
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Comedy isnt your strong point?
i'll let you decide
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Anything that puts more money into the thongs of oiled-up, drug using young males is a great thing.
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Jesuschristonanitalianmo untainbike, no.
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NO
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No - but that's ok. What's really worth taking seriously anyway?
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No - but that's ok. What's really worth taking seriously anyway?
(http://blog.dreamhost.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/serious.jpg)
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bodybuilders are sub-human whores
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No, the general public thinks anyone with half a muscle is on steroids thanks to the media, and the media says steroids are drugs and drugs are bad................mmm'kay?
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No, the general public thinks anyone with half a muscle is on steroids thanks to the media, and the media says steroids are drugs and drugs are bad................mmm'kay?
true chaos but i also think the bodybuilders dont help themselves. with the exception of arnold and nasser (maybe a few other) have any been anything other than dumb as hell?
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true chaos but i also think the bodybuilders dont help themselves. with the exception of arnold and nasser (maybe a few other) have any been anything other than dumb as hell?
I think Jay Cutler has made a shitload of money from real estate. Milos is operating 3-4 businesses. Granted it is few and far between where one is successful without using his body.
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I think Jay Cutler has made a shitload of money from real estate. Milos is operating 3-4 businesses. Granted it is few and far between where one is successful without using his body.
true. i always thought cutler seemed bright but some guy on here said his iq was only just 100.
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true. i always thought cutler seemed bright but some guy on here said his iq was only just 100.
He only has to be smart enough to surround himself with smarter investors. ;)
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I lift because I love to lift! I could care less about the competition side of it, its a BORE! And it's true about societies perception about anyone who carries muscle, they think it can only be done on gear, LAZY FUCKS!
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To the mainstream, again it is quirky. But what is normal for you isnt for others. Come on, to display muscle you need to look good. Shall we have the bodybuilders in shorts? Will that make you feel better?
I have no problem with it whatsoever, I think it's very entertaining.
I would never pass moral judgement, I just call it as I see it.
To 99% of the population, competitive bodybuilding is an obscenity.
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Bodybuilding is a niche, for people who are into dieting, training, and getting in contest shape. To many, just being able to get on stage in shape can be a dream. One guy (Dave) just lost 60 pounds and came on stage looking awesome. That was dedication. People can complain about things, especially as they sit around watching television with their beer bellys, etc instead of going to the gym.
He was drug assisted though. :)
Don't think general public would take lightly on that.
Bodybuilding is all drugs thats the biggest problem..
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cmon now again?
What is the difference with a gay club muscle show and a regular bb
show? Sometimes almost nothing is different.
They can even be bigger and harder at the gay show than the local
BB show.
I see many of the guys are the same audience at both shows.
Just the naive wives and parents also show up at the bb shows.
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Outlook is not so good
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/8_ball_face.jpg)
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Bodybuilding is a niche, for people who are into dieting, training, and getting in contest shape. To many, just being able to get on stage in shape can be a dream. One guy (Dave) just lost 60 pounds and came on stage looking awesome. That was dedication. People can complain about things, especially as they sit around watching television with their beer bellys, etc instead of going to the gym.
Come on... you know... most mainstream people dont look at bodybuilding that way. They look at the big guys with a curious awe. They may not like it, but they are interested in it. Like they are in a handball or bowling competition. It isnt for them, although for some it is entertaining.
As for G4P, yes, there is some, but as a whole, I don't see it. And you wont see it at expos, bodybuilding contests, etc... behind the scenes, maybe to a few, but get real. Shall we talk about the sordid world of other sports too.
To the mainstream, again it is quirky. But what is normal for you isnt for others. Come on, to display muscle you need to look good. Shall we have the bodybuilders in shorts? Will that make you feel better?
Like any things, you need to have discipline. Sometimes i wish I had some.
Good points there Ron. I agree with you on most, I'm not attacking the sport at a all I respect how hard these guys work. But will society ever look at bodybuilding as a sport with all the drug use?
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Bodybuilding is taken seriously. People everywhere, all over the globe do it. Competitive bodybuilding, on the other hand, can't be taken seriously until the average person starts relating to it a little better-which won't happen until drugs are gone, and I'd be willing to bet, most supplements as well.
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Bodybuilding is taken seriously. People everywhere, all over the globe do it. Competitive bodybuilding, on the other hand, can't be taken seriously until the average person starts relating to it a little better-which won't happen until drugs are gone, and I'd be willing to bet, most supplements as well.
Good stuff.
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That is not a sport by most people's definition (sorry earl), or even an activity they really want to participate in or watch.
true but i don't go by "most people" i go by the dictionary :)
and no people will never take bodybuilding seriously, especially bodybuilding today
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true but i don't go by "most people" i go by the dictionary :)
and no people will never take bodybuilding seriously, especially bodybuilding today
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True True.
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The drugs certainly don't help, but they're really not the main issue. What we're talking about here is a "sport" that consists of men shaving their bodies, oiling up, putting on a thong, and dancing around on a stage for an audience of mostly men, in what is for all intents and purposes a male beauty pageant. That is not a sport by most people's definition (sorry earl), or even an activity they really want to participate in or watch.
"Bodybuilding" as an activity (lifting weights and manipulating diet to improve your physique) will always be popular and something large numbers of people will participate in and enjoy, but competitive bodybuilding (the "oiled men in thongs" thing) will always be a fringe subculture.
It has less to do with what you mentioned, and more to do with what people can relate to, and what they've been brought up to participate in....mainstream sports also happen to be what we as kids are exposed to, and what most people can relate to, and it's relativity to participation....
Lets look at the most participated....running, soccer, golf, general weight training....sports almost anyone can do to a degree....the more up the scale in terms of skill/ athleticism/ etc...the less participants, and the more fan oriented...(Football/ baseball/ wrestling/ Tennis/ gymnastics/ boxing/ MMA/ track&Field, etc)...
You then get the nitche sports, which are too tough for most to participate in, thus the interest level pales...bodybuilding/ Ironman style sports/ collegient wrestling/ cliff diving/ extreme sports, etc....
It's the same ratio that the Olympics are televised and covered...as the mainstream sports are given primetime, mid-range level covered, but not primetime...and weightlifting/ luge/ steplechase/ and that funky cross-country-skiing-shooting a gun thing....all on at 3 a.m. and barely covered if at all...kind of like the awards they give "before" the Oscars are shown on T.V.
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true but i don't go by "most people" i go by the dictionary :)
and no people will never take bodybuilding seriously, especially bodybuilding today
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Half pedantic, half right.
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I mean with all the g4p and crazy characters. Society as a whole tends to look down upon bodybuilders.
BODYBUILDING IS TAKEN SERIOUSLY IN OTHER COUNTRIES, JUST NOT IN THE UNITED STATES.
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I mean with all the g4p and crazy characters. Society as a whole tends to look down upon bodybuilders.
the high time was the 70' 80' and started dying in the 90s. I doubt it will recover.
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BODYBUILDING IS TAKEN SERIOUSLY IN OTHER COUNTRIES, JUST NOT IN THE UNITED STATES.
what makes you think that?:)
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It has less to do with what you mentioned, and more to do with what people can relate to, and what they've been brought up to participate in....mainstream sports also happen to be what we as kids are exposed to, and what most people can relate to, and it's relativity to participation....
Lets look at the most participated....running, soccer, golf, general weight training....sports almost anyone can do to a degree....the more up the scale in terms of skill/ athleticism/ etc...the less participants, and the more fan oriented...(Football/ baseball/ wrestling/ Tennis/ gymnastics/ boxing/ MMA/ track&Field, etc)...
You then get the nitche sports, which are too tough for most to participate in, thus the interest level pales...bodybuilding/ Ironman style sports/ collegient wrestling/ cliff diving/ extreme sports, etc....
It's the same ratio that the Olympics are televised and covered...as the mainstream sports are given primetime, mid-range level covered, but not primetime...and weightlifting/ luge/ steplechase/ and that funky cross-country-skiing-shooting a gun thing....all on at 3 a.m. and barely covered if at all...kind of like the awards they give "before" the Oscars are shown on T.V.
I think you hit the spot here chick. Bodybuilding requires more effort to achieve certain goals compaired to other sports like baseball etc. If you want to do it right you need to work 24/7.
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It has less to do with what you mentioned, and more to do with what people can relate to, and what they've been brought up to participate in....mainstream sports also happen to be what we as kids are exposed to, and what most people can relate to, and it's relativity to participation....
Lets look at the most participated....running, soccer, golf, general weight training....sports almost anyone can do to a degree....the more up the scale in terms of skill/ athleticism/ etc...the less participants, and the more fan oriented...(Football/ baseball/ wrestling/ Tennis/ gymnastics/ boxing/ MMA/ track&Field, etc)...
You then get the nitche sports, which are too tough for most to participate in, thus the interest level pales...bodybuilding/ Ironman style sports/ collegient wrestling/ cliff diving/ extreme sports, etc....
It's the same ratio that the Olympics are televised and covered...as the mainstream sports are given primetime, mid-range level covered, but not primetime...and weightlifting/ luge/ steplechase/ and that funky cross-country-skiing-shooting a gun thing....all on at 3 a.m. and barely covered if at all...kind of like the awards they give "before" the Oscars are shown on T.V.
Well said, Chick.
I think what you said ii the reason why bb'ing is a niche sport.
I come from a family that loves sports and everyone pleayed sports. But everyone played "normal" sports. Thats why most of my family members don't understand bb'ing and why i like it...
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BODYBUILDING IS TAKEN SERIOUSLY IN OTHER COUNTRIES, JUST NOT IN THE UNITED STATES.
No. It's not.
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It's the same ratio that the Olympics are televised and covered...as the mainstream sports are given primetime, mid-range level covered, but not primetime...and weightlifting/ luge/ steplechase/ and that funky cross-country-skiing-shooting a gun thing....all on at 3 a.m. and barely covered if at all...kind of like the awards they give "before" the Oscars are shown on T.V.
Apples and Oranges.
Some olympic sports are not very popular, but for entirely different reasons than bodybuilding.
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The drugs certainly don't help, but they're really not the main issue. What we're talking about here is a "sport" that consists of men shaving their bodies, oiling up, putting on a thong, and dancing around on a stage for an audience of mostly men, in what is for all intents and purposes a male beauty pageant. That is not a sport by most people's definition (sorry earl), or even an activity they really want to participate in or watch.
"Bodybuilding" as an activity (lifting weights and manipulating diet to improve your physique) will always be popular and something large numbers of people will participate in and enjoy, but competitive bodybuilding (the "oiled men in thongs" thing) will always be a fringe subculture.
Agree completely. Drugs aren't the only thing keeping people from relating, but their effects make it so that the O competitors are so dramatically far from anything they can comprehend that relation in that regard is totally unthinkable-so you'd think they would try to relate in some other way. That doesn't happen though, you're right, the year round shaving, the diminished posing trunks, the messed up skin, the attitudes, all of it keep them from relating-it's the whole picture that does it. You have a lot of those things in other sports too, but they are not usually coupled with inhuman size, open drug usage, blantant ego/personality disorders, disfigured bodyparts, and wildly(I hate using this word...)immoral off stage antics.
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On average, many people also think its a sort of narcissism (which it is, in a way) and many chicks don't like men who are obsessed with their own bodies and dieting and so on.
In many countries there is also a perception that alot of muscle = no brains. And, of course, the drugs.
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On average, many people also think its a sort of narcissism (which it is, in a way) and many chicks don't like men who are obsessed with their own bodies and dieting and so on.
In many countries there is also a perception that alot of muscle = no brains. And, of course, the drugs.
Missing the point entirely...
People arent exposed to it, nor are they willing to take it to the extreme...assuming they even have the genetics to do so. combine that with the amount of time it takes to get to the National level (least of all the pro level)....
It's followed about the same as Cricket/ Australian Rules Football is here in the states...
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Bob, I'm just speaking from the experience: what I heard and observed. Of course, it is not universally representative.
I agree w/ you that in US it is probably more acknowledged than elsewhere in the world.
Hence my earlier comment about someone's statement that it is better accepted on other countries.
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You make a valid point, Bob, but you shouldn't discount the facts that bodybuilding shows are about as exciting as watching paint dry, and to most people they're more than a little weird as factors.
No question about that, which is why I've tried my best to bring some much needed changes...bottom line is, without scoring points...it will always be a nitche sport.
My goal is simply to make it a BIGGER nitche sport with more money to the athletes.
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Will (most) media ever take bodybuilding seriously? No... ::)
Do mankind take (most) media seriously? Yes... :-\
Will bodybuilding ever be taken seriously? :-X
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BODYBUILDING IS TAKEN SERIOUSLY IN OTHER COUNTRIES, JUST NOT IN THE UNITED STATES.
What's the country where...
... (a few) BB'ers can make a good living?
... you have gyms with professional(!) trainers and equipment?
... there are serious sponsors?
... were the Mr. O, AC, Europa Supershow and Ironman Pro are held?
... need to go on?
I live in the wrong country :-\
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shit, not another "will bodybuilding ever be considered a sport or whatever" thread. we have a shitload of threads about this already
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shit, not another "will bodybuilding ever be considered a sport or whatever" thread. we have a shitload of threads about this already
We already know it wont...the answer was to "why".
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We already know it wont...the answer was to "why".
some people classify Pro Bodybuilding just like Bowling, Billiards, etc.... I just don't see how Pro BB will ever emerge to a wider audience in, let's say 15 to 25 years from now. sorry, I just don't see it. As much as I love BB, I would love to see it switch to second gear, but, Alas, many have tried, but maybe you're in the right track to change that perception, Chick.
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It has less to do with what you mentioned, and more to do with what people can relate to, and what they've been brought up to participate in....mainstream sports also happen to be what we as kids are exposed to, and what most people can relate to, and it's relativity to participation....
Lets look at the most participated....running, soccer, golf, general weight training....sports almost anyone can do to a degree....the more up the scale in terms of skill/ athleticism/ etc...the less participants, and the more fan oriented...(Football/ baseball/ wrestling/ Tennis/ gymnastics/ boxing/ MMA/ track&Field, etc)...
You then get the nitche sports, which are too tough for most to participate in, thus the interest level pales...bodybuilding/ Ironman style sports/ collegient wrestling/ cliff diving/ extreme sports, etc....
It's the same ratio that the Olympics are televised and covered...as the mainstream sports are given primetime, mid-range level covered, but not primetime...and weightlifting/ luge/ steplechase/ and that funky cross-country-skiing-shooting a gun thing....all on at 3 a.m. and barely covered if at all...kind of like the awards they give "before" the Oscars are shown on T.V.
Well put!
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Half pedantic, half right.
you should've looked up "sport" in the dictionary right after you looked up "pedantic" :P
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some people classify Pro Bodybuilding just like Bowling, Billiards, etc.... I just don't see how Pro BB will ever emerge to a wider audience in, let's say 15 to 25 years from now. sorry, I just don't see it. As much as I love BB, I would love to see it switch to second gear, but, Alas, many have tried, but maybe you're in the right track to change that perception, Chick.
My goal is to make it more appealing WITHIN our own industry....
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you should've looked up "sport" in the dictionary right after you looked up "pedantic" :P
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Half bitchy, half flailing.
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BB will be in the Olympics soon just ask Joe and Ben Ohhhhhhh it Doesn't matter. ::)
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I mean with all the g4p and crazy characters. Society as a whole tends to look down upon bodybuilders.
First word... STEROIDS! Drugs are what hurt bodybuilders popularity in societies eyes. All the other stuff comes after that. Thanks for playing...
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Muscles sell. We know this for a fact. A muscely actor with a good face is more attractive (to men AND women) than a slim actor with a good face. Muscles are advertised everywhere and usually generate great success for the product, e.g. a diet pill, fitness machine, or BBing/fitness magazine.
So, why are millions of men and women wanting to see muscles in a movie or magazine, yet not coming to shows to see it in real life? Niche sport - yes, but there is a REASON for that which must be known before its fanbase can grow.
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professional B.B. equal steroids, hgh, insulin hyperthyroid drugs g4p and what ever else we don't know about it. so no it will never be taken seriously
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damn shame, oh i forgot to mention ex felons, damn shame! i believe the era of 70's and 80's had more credibility
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Muscles sell. We know this for a fact. A muscely actor with a good face is more attractive (to men AND women) than a slim actor with a good face. Muscles are advertised everywhere and usually generate great success for the product, e.g. a diet pill, fitness machine, or BBing/fitness magazine.
So, why are millions of men and women wanting to see muscles in a movie or magazine, yet not coming to shows to see it in real life? Niche sport - yes, but there is a REASON for that which must be known before its fanbase can grow.
THIS is what the "normal" person regards as muscle packed:
(http://www.movieeye.com/celebrity_addresses/upl_images/scans/59106/Zac_Efron-r238139.jpg)
hope this helps
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THIS is what the "normal" person regards as muscle packed:
hope this helps
Haha, finally a pic of Donkey "Zac" Kong! ;D
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Haha, finally a pic of Donkey "Zac" Kong! ;D
lol, do i also get to bang his chick?
;D ;D
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lol, do i also get to bang his chick?
;D ;D
I'm kind of out-of-the-loop. Who is his chick?
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First word... STEROIDS! Drugs are what hurt bodybuilders popularity in societies eyes. All the other stuff comes after that. Thanks for playing...
I think drugs is second.
Oiled up strutting around in thongs is still first.
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THIS is what the "normal" person regards as muscle packed:
(http://www.movieeye.com/celebrity_addresses/upl_images/scans/59106/Zac_Efron-r238139.jpg)
hope this helps
They also regard Arnold, a beefed up Stallone, beefed up Dwayne Johnson, etc, as muscle packed, and they are actually muscle packed. In the upperbody, anyway. Most BBers have upperbodies to die for. Obviously a musclely body is not reason enough to attend a show or buy a DVD, etc.
I believe steroids have little to do with it. NFL is one of the biggest sports in the world and we know alot of those guys are using. Same with World's Strongest Man, baseball, and others. We get 'upset' if our 'favorite player' is busted for drugs, yet choose to be ignorant about the rampant use until we're forced to acknowledge it. In BBing, 99% of competitors use PED's. It's no secret, not even from the athletes themselves. Any talk about cheating is demolished by the fact that they ALL cheat, thereare it returns back to being a level playing field. Joe Public doesn't care whether steroids are illegal or not. That's not an issue unless you actually want to use them yourself.
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THIS is what the "normal" person regards as muscle packed:
(http://www.movieeye.com/celebrity_addresses/upl_images/scans/59106/Zac_Efron-r238139.jpg)
hope this helps
Uh no.
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Muscles sell. We know this for a fact. A muscely actor with a good face is more attractive (to men AND women) than a slim actor with a good face. Muscles are advertised everywhere and usually generate great success for the product, e.g. a diet pill, fitness machine, or BBing/fitness magazine.
So, why are millions of men and women wanting to see muscles in a movie or magazine, yet not coming to shows to see it in real life? Niche sport - yes, but there is a REASON for that which must be known before its fanbase can grow.
Because what they are selling is an illusion and by now everyone knows it. Look at the infomercials for any of these ab products listed below. EVeryone knows that the models featured in these ads did not get their bodies from using the products advertised. As long as bodybuilding is built on drugs and lying advertisements it will be limited to weirdos & schmoes and rejected by respectable society.
http://www.infomercialratings.com/abdominal_product_reviews.htm
6 Second Abs
Ab Away Pro - Tamilee Webb
Ab Coaster
Ab Doer
Ab Doer 2
Ab Doer Xtreme
Ab Dolly
Ab Energizer
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Ab Force (Belt)
Ab King Pro
Ab Lazer
Ab Lifter Plus
Ab Lounge
Ab Lounge 2
Ab Lounge XL
Ab Maximizer
Ab Pony
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Ab Rocker
Ab Rocket
Ab Roller
Ab Scissor - Body by Jake
Ab Sculptor
Ab Slide
Ab Swing
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Abaratus
Abrageous
Abs Made Easy
Abtronic
Bender Ball
Contour Core Belt
Core Sculptor
Cross Crunch
Electro-Gym
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Gym Fitness
Katami Bar
Kor Flex
Red Exerciser
Rio Ab Belt
Slendertone Flex
Smart Abs
The Bean
Torso Tiger
Torso Tiger 2
Torso Track
Torso Track 2
Velform Sauna Belt
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They also regard Arnold, a beefed up Stallone, beefed up Dwayne Johnson, etc, as muscle packed, and they are actually muscle packed. In the upperbody, anyway. Most BBers have upperbodies to die for. Obviously a musclely body is not reason enough to attend a show or buy a DVD, etc.
I believe steroids have little to do with it. NFL is one of the biggest sports in the world and we know alot of those guys are using. Same with World's Strongest Man, baseball, and others. We get 'upset' if our 'favorite player' is busted for drugs, yet choose to be ignorant about the rampant use until we're forced to acknowledge it. In BBing, 99% of competitors use PED's. It's no secret, not even from the athletes themselves. Any talk about cheating is demolished by the fact that they ALL cheat, thereare it returns back to being a level playing field. Joe Public doesn't care whether steroids are illegal or not. That's not an issue unless you actually want to use them yourself.
Good post.
But I disagree with the steroids part. The public equates huge muscles with drugs, and whether right or not, bbing isn't losing that stigma. And while you and I know that most major sports and athletes use drugs, Joe Public is naive, and really wants to believe otherwise.
Again, comp. bbing is boring. Nothing is changing that. Pageants are boring to begin with, and this one happens to appeal to muscle worshipers and freaks (who can relate). Hardly any appeal in that. Now imagine if Joe Public knew or was aware of the shady side (or should I say shadier side, since comp. bbing is shady to begin with) and there's no way this thing is growing.
And please, stop referring to comp. bbing as a sport. THERE'S NOTHING "sport" about it. Again, a pageant? Yes. A hobby gone wrong? Yes. A competition (when it isn't rigged), maybe. Hell, in Arnold's days, it may have even been an art form. Not anymore. Comp. bbing is about as sport as WWE, except, WWE wrestlers/performers actually have athletic ability/prowess. There's a reason why Vegas will not take bets on things like WWE and IFBB.....and they'll take bets on just about ANYTHING, think about it.
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Half bitchy, half flailing.
100% in your head 8)
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Because what they are selling is an illusion and by now everyone knows it. Look at the infomercials for any of these ab products listed below. EVeryone knows that the models featured in these ads did not get their bodies from using the products advertised. As long as bodybuilding is built on drugs and lying advertisements it will be limited to weirdos & schmoes and rejected by respectable society.
http://www.infomercialratings.com/abdominal_product_reviews.htm
6 Second Abs
Ab Away Pro - Tamilee Webb
Ab Coaster
Ab Doer
Ab Doer 2
Ab Doer Xtreme
Ab Dolly
Ab Energizer
Ab Flex
Ab Force
Ab Force (Belt)
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The top 'ab' products may be sold under false pretenses, but they do sell. Though, I think it's partly due to the supposed quickness of results combined with the models in the ads; because the stimulus of seeing a body that you may want to look like is a very powerful selling tool, even if the advertised product will only help you get 5% of the way there.
Good post.
But I disagree with the steroids part. The public equates huge muscles with drugs, and whether right or not, bbing isn't losing that stigma. And while you and I know that most major sports and athletes use drugs, Joe Public is naive, and really wants to believe otherwise.
Again, comp. bbing is boring. Nothing is changing that. Pageants are boring to begin with, and this one happens to appeal to muscle worshipers and freaks (who can relate). Hardly any appeal in that. Now imagine if Joe Public knew or was aware of the shady side (or should I say shadier side, since comp. bbing is shady to begin with) and there's no way this thing is growing.
And please, stop referring to comp. bbing as a sport. THERE'S NOTHING "sport" about it. Again, a pageant? Yes. A hobby gone wrong? Yes. A competition (when it isn't rigged), maybe. Hell, in Arnold's days, it may have even been an art form. Not anymore. Comp. bbing is about as sport as WWE, except, WWE wrestlers/performers actually have athletic ability/prowess. There's a reason why Vegas will not take bets on things like WWE and IFBB.....and they'll take bets on just about ANYTHING, think about it.
I agree about the public virtually knows they're on drugs, but like I said, the 'cheating' aspect should be negated because they're all cheating. But I guess that only snowballs the drug issue, rather than cancelling it out.
Sport or not, there is a reason that people see it as a stupid act with funny, weird-looking man who "will never have kids" and "have small penises", etc. I think there are two ways to go about improving its fanbase: 1) give building BIG muscles a more respectable image, both at the contests and in the mags, and 2) make the contests more entertaining to the general public. Not necessarily by expos, but something else.
Joe Public has no interest in finding out about the G4P side, since they're content to laugh at the sport the way it is in its purest form on stage.
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no
its heydays were 70-80s
if it had any chance with the wider public it was riding the coat-tails of the fitness craze....it did to a degree - Arnie movie star, etc.
but no....the extreme look just aint cricket
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Gone Away, you're wrong on one thing. Joe Public doesn't want his wife to find out about the G4P stuff.
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Bodybuilding is serious business.
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true chaos but i also think the bodybuilders dont help themselves. with the exception of arnold and nasser (maybe a few other) have any been anything other than dumb as hell?
Woah woah and fuckin woah..You cant mention Nasser in the same line as Arnold..
He is an oil filled pervert that backhands females as a hobby..
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when little midgets and blocky freaks will stay on winning important competitions i dont think the sport will ever be alive again.
people want bodybuilding champions to look like superheros, tall handsome huge but athletic looking, full head of hair and an overall healthy looking appearance, like offcourse the great bob chick and gunther schlierkamp other than that its an hopeless case.
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Why the hell they didn't give Gunter an Olympia reign is beyond me.
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Gone Away, you're wrong on one thing. Joe Public doesn't want his wife to find out about the G4P stuff.
Because Joe Public would consider doing that himself?
when little midgets and blocky freaks will stay on winning important competitions i dont think the sport will ever be alive again.
people want bodybuilding champions to look like superheros, tall handsome huge but athletic looking, full head of hair and an overall healthy looking appearance, like offcourse the great bob chick and gunther schlierkamp other than that its an hopeless case.
It would help sell the sport if the posterboy is a tall and attractive white man, sure. But, look at Ronnie. Although he's 8 time Mr. Olympia, most people know him from the Unbelievable DVD where he's deadlifting 800lbs and at the time he just happened to be Mr. Olympia. Anyone in he outside would barely know anyone besides Ronnie and Arnold. What guys like Arnold did is relate to the mainsteam population through showing he is just like them, yet at the same time showing them the charisma that makes Joe Public captivated to watch them, e.g. in Pumping Iron and that incredible deadlift. If more pros related themselves to the mainstream audience by being real and dispelling the meathead myth, it would likely start a shift towards the mainstream wanting to find out more about this niche sport; thus the sport having more chance for success.
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Wow! The belts are the best! :)
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No. Not with this happening in public. ;D
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"Let me get a closer look, Servio."
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=243220.0;attach=284077;image)
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"Let me get a closer look, Servio."
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=243220.0;attach=284077;image)
Who is that creepy guy?