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Title: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: 240 is Back on October 30, 2008, 11:43:54 AM
Super.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: shootfighter1 on October 30, 2008, 11:48:38 AM
Really?  She should be charged with something for that idiotic stunt.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Dan-O on October 30, 2008, 11:57:09 AM
Being an idiot is not a crime...  if it was, then a lot of you...  oh never mind. ;D
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 11:58:37 AM
Being an idiot is not a crime...  if it was, then a lot of you...  oh never mind. ;D
LOL so true i wish it was it would clear more than half of this board.

I thought i heard that she was mentally disturbed is she doing any time in psychiatric ward?
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: 240 is Back on October 30, 2008, 11:59:25 AM
She filed a false police report.

He actions no doubt swayed a few voters, as it was on Drudge's home page for an entire day.

Their retraction wasn't quite as bold ;)
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: CQ on October 30, 2008, 12:02:57 PM
She should be charged, that is quite uncool. :-\
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:03:06 PM
She filed a false police report.

He actions no doubt swayed a few voters, as it was on Drudge's home page for an entire day.

Their retraction wasn't quite as bold ;)
LOL thats rich coming from you the guy that spammed this entire board for a week about nonsense stories of palin did any of those sources give retractions? how about the national enquirer?  ::)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/24/mccain-supporter-who-clai_n_137484.html
She will be housed in a mental health unit at the county jail for her safety and because of "her not insignificant mental health issues,"

Just noticed she was from college station, thats where Texas A&M is that student body is so conservative it can be scary at times.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: shootfighter1 on October 30, 2008, 12:03:41 PM
How is filing a false police report not a crime?

Does she have a real psych history?  Story makes more sense if so.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:04:09 PM
She should be charged, that is quite uncool. :-\
if she is mentally unfit to stand trial there isnt much we can do...thats why she is in the wacky house.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Busted on October 30, 2008, 12:06:25 PM
Being an idiot is not a crime...  if it was, then a lot of you...  oh never mind. ;D

Claiming someone assaulted you in a official police report IS A CRIME
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Dan-O on October 30, 2008, 12:08:23 PM
Claiming someone assaulted you in a official police report IS A CRIME

Unless you're a certifiable kook, apparently!  But she is in jail, or at least the mental health unit of the county jail.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: CQ on October 30, 2008, 12:12:19 PM
Claiming someone assaulted you in a official police report IS A CRIME

And this is way worse, she was attempting to incite racial hatred and impinge an election...which really she has done. We all saw folks rush to blame black folks and Obama for it - so now it is from "McCains side" so to speak, there are surely people jumping to the same negative [and unjust] conclusions. This was trying to sway a national election, serious business here.

I see Tony's point, but I feel this opens the door for more stunts like this in elections and claim "Oh I am nuts". In my opinion, many criminals are nuts, poor excuse. Does any *same* person rape a kid? Rape women? Criminals of that nature are all prolly mentally unbalanced, not referring to say burglars/white collar crime etc.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Busted on October 30, 2008, 12:16:38 PM
Unless you're a certifiable kook, apparently!  But she is in jail, or at least the mental health unit of the county jail.

Ok, maybe you dont know how to read...

"Ashley Todd will not be charged with a crime"

Her sitting in jail means? She got arrested.... ok, you following me?

She is NOT going to be charged... still following?

Means she is going to get released... and not charged with a crime!! Even tho she should be!

Razumijete li? Dickhead ...
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:16:51 PM
And this is way worse, she was attempting to incite racial hatred and impinge and election...which really she has done. We all saw folks rush to blame black folks and Obama for it - so now it is from "McCains side" so to speak, there are surely people jumping to the same negative [and unjust] conclusions. This was trying to sway a national election, serious business here.

I see Tony's point, but I feel this opens the door for more stunts like this in elections and claim "Oh I am nuts". In my opinion, many criminals are nuts, poor excuse. Does any *same* person rape a kid? Rape women? Criminals of that nature are all prolly mentally unbalanced, not referring to say burglars/white collar crime etc.
theres a difference between being a sociopath and a psychopath huge difference. I agree that if she is deemed sane she should face charges...I think your going a little over board with your she was trying to incite racial hatred. What about the kid that hacked into palins email? If this chick does jail time that little fuck ought to...you guys gotta stop looking through the liberal/conservative lenses and take a step back and look at the situations.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Decker on October 30, 2008, 12:17:17 PM
Political considerations aside, this is what mental impairment/disease looks like.  It's pretty sad and sobering.

I've visited a county psychiatric ward on several occasions (the place where the uninsured go) and it was pretty tough.  The patients, for the most part, are not rational in the slightest.  That bland statement does not do justice to what it's like trying to communicate with someone who's lost the ability think and perceive even-handedly.  Terrifying is a more apt description.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: CQ on October 30, 2008, 12:19:48 PM
theres a difference between being a sociopath and a psychopath huge difference. I agree that if she is deemed sane she should face charges...I think your going a little over board with your she was trying to incite racial hatred. What about the kid that hacked into palins email? If this chick does jail time that little fuck ought to...you guys gotta stop looking through the liberal/conservative lenses and take a step back and look at the situations.

I do look at situations actually, seriously.

Of course she was trying to incite racial hatred, and succeeded for a bit - thread here shows that in a microcism.

Why claim a black man? Why claim he carved a B for Barack? Why say it was due to her McCain bumper sticker? Why make up the story to begin with?

The intent was obvious.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:20:34 PM
Ok, maybe you dont know how to read...

"Ashley Todd will not be charged with a crime"

Her sitting in jail means? She got arrested.... ok, you following me?

She is NOT going to be charged... still following?

Means she is going to get released... and not charged with a crime!! Even tho she should be!

Razumijete li? Dickhead ...
just b/c shes not charged with a crime doesnt mean she wont be locked up if deemed mental? maybe they should look at you...why all the anger busted?
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: 240 is Back on October 30, 2008, 12:23:07 PM
CQ = correct.

She traveled from TX to PENN so that her story would take place in a swing state - perhaps the most important one - where racial tensions are always high.

She ate at dennys with her republican club team.  Then, she went into the bathroom and did the black eye with mascarm and faked a backwards B in the mirror.

Her friends paid the bill, and took pics of her.  Then they called the police, while one of them ran back and called the Mccain campaign and sent over the pics.

it was on drudge the next morning.


You do the math.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Dan-O on October 30, 2008, 12:23:33 PM
Ok, maybe you dont know how to read...

"Ashley Todd will not be charged with a crime"

Her sitting in jail means? She got arrested.... ok, you following me?

She is NOT going to be charged... still following?

Means she is going to get released... and not charged with a crime!! Even tho she should be!

Razumijete li? Dickhead ...

My point was...  she's obviously nuts (that's what the word "kook" means, in case that's a new word for you), so she's essentially being confined for some undetermined period of time for her own and others' safety but probably doesn't fully understand the consequences of her actions and thus obviously has not been deemed competent to be charged.

It's not like this is the first time that sort of thing has happened--do you think a murderer with Down's Syndrome should get the chair?  Of course you don't, no reasonable person would.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:23:38 PM
I do look at situations actually, seriously.

Of course she was trying to incite racial hatred, and succeeded for a bit - thread here shows that in a microcism.

Why claim a black man? Why claim he carved a B for Barack? Why say it was due to her McCain bumper sticker? Why make up the story to begin with?

The intent was obvious.
It was not meant just for you CQ, your very rational for the most part even though i disagree with you on most things.

LOL b/c she said the guy was black or b/c she was trying to stir up shit against obama? which one?
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:29:42 PM
CQ = correct.

She traveled from TX to PENN so that her story would take place in a swing state - perhaps the most important one - where racial tensions are always high.

She ate at dennys with her republican club team.  Then, she went into the bathroom and did the black eye with mascarm and faked a backwards B in the mirror.

Her friends paid the bill, and took pics of her.  Then they called the police, while one of them ran back and called the Mccain campaign and sent over the pics.

it was on drudge the next morning.


You do the math.

give a link to this 240 if thats true then the friends need to be charged.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: CQ on October 30, 2008, 12:33:16 PM
It was not meant just for you CQ, your very rational for the most part even though i disagree with you on most things.

LOL b/c she said the guy was black or b/c she was trying to stir up shit against obama? which one?

Thanks, and really I mean the whole thing was obviously intended to flame the fans of racism and work againest a candidate in a presidential election, which to me is the worst thing. Can't be trying to commit subterfuge and twist elections, very undemocratic.

It's not like this is the first time that sort of thing has happened--do you think a murderer with Down's Syndrome should get the chair?  Of course you don't, no reasonable person would.

I am fiendishly anti-DP in 99% of cases anyway, but the USA is one of a handful of nations that *does* execute people with mental disabilites though - along with Iran, China, Saudi Arabia and a few more tyrant type nations, in fact the US is the only first world nation to do so. So I really don't see why one can kill someone with mental issues, but can't charge someone with one. Makes no sense to me.

CQ = correct.

Of course I am correct, it's my gender, we are always right 8)
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Busted on October 30, 2008, 12:35:46 PM
just b/c shes not charged with a crime doesnt mean she wont be locked up if deemed mental? maybe they should look at you...why all the anger busted?

They cant lock you up inless you are found guilty...  If she is needed to go into a mental ward she needs plead insanity. 


becasue this bitch tried dividing races in a horrible way, and people like YOU think its no big deal...
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:36:50 PM
Thanks, and really I mean the whole thing was obviously intended to flame the fans of racism and work againest a candidate in a presidential election, which to me is the worst thing. Can't be trying to commit subterfuge and twist elections, very undemocratic.
whats your take on ACORN CQ and obama donating so much money to them?
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:38:19 PM
They cant lock you up inless you are found guilty...  If she is needed to go into a mental ward she needs plead insanity. 


becasue this bitch tried dividing races in a horrible way, and people like YOU think its no big deal...
LOL you can be locked up in a mental ward and never commit a crime bro sorry to say.

I never said its no big deal you seem to think that she should hang for this simple fact of the matter is if she is mentally disturbed she will be detained.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: CQ on October 30, 2008, 12:46:01 PM
whats your take on ACORN CQ and obama donating so much money to them?

I think it is obviously less then ideal, and note at least one person has served time for it [saw on TV].

I do follow the adage two wrongs don't make a right however, and same way Acorn is getting tons of media play and people are grasping over election issues, there are ones of all kinds and they all should be looked at and non brushed off.

If one "side" just talks about what the other "side" does, there will be back and forths all day long, as there are discrepancies everywhere. Deal with them each is my altruistic thought.

This chick committed a grevious act, she was sane enough to attend college not some dribbling loon, and not charging her sets a precendent for electoral interference of this kind.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Busted on October 30, 2008, 12:52:27 PM
LOL you can be locked up in a mental ward and never commit a crime bro sorry to say.

I never said its no big deal you seem to think that she should hang for this simple fact of the matter is if she is mentally disturbed she will be detained.

Not when you have been arrested for committing a crime and then let off and not charged.  She committed Fraud which is a Federal Felony.  In order for her to get off those charges she would have to plead not guilty in front of a judge due to "Temp Insanity, or just plain out Insanity".  Its not like she stole come gum.  What she did for most folks would warrant prison time.

It's not a crime to be "mentally disturbed".  But, since she is getting OFF on these charges, they can't hold her for simply being "Mentally Disturbed". If that was the case, Coach would have been locked up years ago...  :D

Im sure I have studied law a little more than you have.  I can safely guarantee that...
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:52:59 PM
I think it is obviously less then ideal, and note at least one person has served time for it [saw on TV].

I do follow the adage two wrongs don't make a right however, and same way Acorn is getting tons of media play and people are grasping over election issues, there are ones of all kinds and they all should be looked at and non brushed off.

If one "side" just talks about what the other "side" does, there will be back and forths all day long, as there are discrepancies everywhere. Deal with them each is my altruistic thought.

This chick committed a grevious act, she was sane enough to attend college not some dribbling loon, and not charging her sets a precendent for electoral interference of this kind.
i agree with you on that

Again though there is a big difference between a sociopath and a psychopath and just b/c your not psychotic doesnt mean your not mentally disturbed.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 12:55:05 PM
Not when you have been arrested for committing a crime and then let off and not charged.  She committed Fraud which is a Federal Felony.  In order for her to get off those charges she would have to plead not guilty in front of a judge due to "Temp Insanity, or just plain out Insanity".  Its not like she stole come gum.  What she did for most folks would warrant prison time.

It's not a crime to be "mentally disturbed".  But, since she is getting OFF on these charges, they can't hold her for simply being "Mentally Disturbed". If that was the case, Coach would have been locked up years ago...  :D

Im sure I have studied law a little more than you have.  I can safely guarantee that...
you can be held if you are deemed a danger to yourself or others...im sure she is considered that

During your studying of law you should have run over to the antropology department and got an education on diseases
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Busted on October 30, 2008, 12:56:21 PM
whats your take on ACORN CQ and obama donating so much money to them?

Please show me where Obama donated Money to Acorn.  Regardless if he did, I dont see any big deal.  Acorn didnt commit any crimes. It is a nice smoke screen to try to scare people to not vote for Obama.  Republicans time and time again get CAUGHT and JAILED for voter sup. and Fraud.

Repubes beat this thing to death, even after the facts come out.  Thats why I could never be a republican. Even when something is considered a lie, they still run with it and have no respect for the truth.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 01:02:43 PM
Please show me where Obama donated Money to Acorn. regardless if he did, I dont see any big deal.  Acorn didnt commit any crimes. It is a nice smoke screen to try to scare people to not vote for Obama.  Republicans time and time again get CAUGHT and JAILED for voter sup. and Fraud.

Repubes beat this thing to death, even after the facts come out.  Thats why I could never be a republican. Even when something is considered a lie, they still run with it and have no respect for the truth.
well you see the problem is that its a government funded organization and it is decidedly bias. I have no problem with independent organizations getting voters registered and helping ppl vote but if it is funded by the government it should be NUETRAL.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Busted on October 30, 2008, 01:02:43 PM
you can be held if you are deemed a danger to yourself or others...im sure she is considered that

During your studying of law you should have run over to the antropology department and got an education on diseases

I studied Law for 2 years after Undergrad, and I never had the chance to finish, to this day it bothers me, but whats done is done and I kept it moving. 

About your diseases rant.  As I stated, there is evidence that our government has created diseases. I posted several sources for you to read.  This does not mean that the government created Aids, but it shows that our Gov has done it to its own people.  THink of the chemical weapons that we rant about Sadam used on his people.  Where do you think he bought those weapons? Who do you think created those terrible Biologial warfare weapons?  Give it 1 guess....
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tu_holmes on October 30, 2008, 01:06:23 PM
If she's found mentally unable to stand trial and locked in the loony bin, the I'm ok with that, however this looks very premeditated and not impulsive like most crimes of mental illness.

I would think the premeditation should warrant a charge for filing a false police report at the least... I would question as to whether the idea of inciting anger based on race could warrant a "hate crime".
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Decker on October 30, 2008, 01:07:11 PM
LOL you can be locked up in a mental ward and never commit a crime bro sorry to say.

I never said its no big deal you seem to think that she should hang for this simple fact of the matter is if she is mentally disturbed she will be detained.
She can only be detained in a psychiatric ward if she poses a threat of harm to herself or another person.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 01:08:55 PM
I studied Law for 2 years after Undergrad, and I never had the chance to finish, to this day it bothers me, but whats done is done and I kept it moving. 

About your diseases rant.  As I stated, there is evidence that our government has created diseases. I posted several sources for you to read.  This does not mean that the government created Aids, but it shows that our Gov has done it to its own people.  THink of the chemical weapons that we rant about Sadam used on his people.  Where do you think he bought those weapons? Who do you think created those terrible Biologial warfare weapons?  Give it 1 guess....
That sucks bro ive been thinking going to law school as well.

Im not saying that the government doesnt engineer diseases but most of them already exist first and secondly your stance was that the government created most of this worlds deadly diseases which is just plain wrong with out a shadow of a doubt. There are so many deadly diseases out there its amazing and if you figure in the ones that have existed for a long time the list gets even longer. I cant think of one man made disease, im not saying that man doesnt alter diseases or chemicals like anthrax, small pox shit like that but they didnt create it
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: tonymctones on October 30, 2008, 01:09:43 PM
She can only be detained in a psychiatric ward if she poses a threat of harm to herself or another person.
you can be held if you are deemed a danger to yourself or others...im sure she is considered that
thanks
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Straw Man on October 30, 2008, 01:22:04 PM
Classic Republican Justice

Fat Ugly Republican chick uses the worst kind of race baiting and walks away free

Granny at a McCain rally (the Republican nominee for President) hold up a sign saying that the nomimee is the same as the current Republican President and gets cited for disturbing the peace (can't recall if she was actually arrested)

Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: shootfighter1 on October 30, 2008, 02:53:54 PM
If she isn't mentally handicapped or has a real psych condition, this person should be made an example of criminally.  Stirring up this kind of racial shit is unacceptible.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 30, 2008, 03:18:41 PM
Being an idiot is not a crime...  if it was, then a lot of you...  oh never mind. ;D
sorry, she did break the law.
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Dan-O on October 30, 2008, 03:40:05 PM
sorry, she did break the law.

Yeah, I don't think there's ever been any doubt that she broke the law, filing a false police report and whatever else she did.

Being an idiot "per se" isn't illegal--and in some people's case, if their idiocy is severe enough it might exempt them from being subject to the same laws as the rest of us. :)
Title: Re: Ashley Todd - girl who carved B on own face - will not be charged with a crime
Post by: Hedgehog on October 30, 2008, 04:42:54 PM
If she's insane she should be shipped off to a looney home. The trial can wait.

But if she's insane - then she belongs in a locked psychiatric facility.