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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Big Dave. on October 31, 2008, 01:13:30 AM
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Iam going to starting a new cycle in Dec, not a big hitter or anything silly! just to put a bit of size on without the water look that i sometimes get but, Ive got a good clean diet and do cardio 3 times a week 30-45 mins a time.
I was really wanting to include Test Prop. I was thinking Test Prop, Equipoise and maybe Primo?
any pointers would be great thanks.
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Dianabol, test cypionate, and wintrol or anavar
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oral winny 20mg - 50 mg winny eod inj - 100mg propionate eod - 30mg dianabol - for total 4months
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oral winny 20mg - 50 mg winny eod inj - 100mg propionate eod - 30mg dianabol - for total 4months
why do you take oral winny and injections? is there some better advantage to that? why not just take 100mg intramuscular eod?
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stick with oral winny, too much to be injecting EOD
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stick with oral winny, too much to be injecting EOD
negatvie dude...oral winny def does not work as well as injectable winstrol
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200 mg of prop eod
400-600 mg of equi
400mg of primo
that would be a really nice cycle!
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400mg trenbolone enanthate per week .. weeks 1-12.
50mg turinabol everyday .. weeks 1-4 and weeks 13-15
hcg (look up 4thad's advice) .... weeks 1-16
nolva 20mg ed ... weeks 16-20
that would be great !
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Dianabol, test cypionate, and wintrol or anavar
Are you fucked? dbol and test cyp = pure water retention.
He had it right on with his first suggestion: Prop, EQ add some var/winny and clen, you'll be set.
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400mg trenbolone enanthate per week .. weeks 1-12.
50mg turinabol everyday .. weeks 1-4 and weeks 13-15
hcg (look up 4thad's advice) .... weeks 1-16
nolva 20mg ed ... weeks 16-20
that would be great !
no test?
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no test?
I came back after some thought to make an addition..
400mg trenbolone enanthate per week .. weeks 1-12.
50mg turinabol everyday .. weeks 1-4 and weeks 13-15
1 andriol cap 2 times per day ... weeks 1-15
hcg (look up 4thad's advice) .... weeks 1-16
nolva 20mg ed ... weeks 16-20
that would be great !
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andriol is alrightt....i would rather your sus or test e at 600mg...he would also need something other then nolva in case of prolactin related side effects..
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I came back after some thought to make an addition..
With all that tren you may want something with a little more punch then andriol.
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not gonna get prolactin side effects with that dose of tren for that duration..
andriol provides 40mg test per cap... 2 caps per day is equal to 80mg testosterone per day.. when natural production of testosterone is only , at its highest, 12mg per day..i think 80mg (about 8 times natural production) is MORE than enough testosterone ..
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not gonna get prolactin side effects with that dose of tren for that duration..
andriol provides 40mg test per cap... 2 caps per day is equal to 80mg testosterone per day.. when natural production of testosterone is only , at its highest, 12mg per day..i think 80mg (about 8 times natural production) is MORE than enough testosterone ..
So you can say that with 100% accuracy? No you can't - I've known guys who've gotten prolactin sides on half that much but that's besides the point. Wasn't even commenting on those anyway. I just thought some "other" test should be thrown in there instead on andriol - for the price of that you could get some test e o test c.
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that particular comment wasnt directed to you obviously since the other dude mentioned prolactin and you did not..
okay no big deal you could run some injectable but the heavier ester will cause more water rretention and we already have the enanthate ester from the tren in there and he said he didnt want water retention.... but if you wanted to run test c or e then you could do 250mg ew..
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I've known guys who've gotten prolactin sides on half that much but that's besides the point.
im not saying you dont believe this to be true or calling you a liar, but i will call whoever told you this a liar.. i find it impossible to believe that anybody had prolactin related side effects at 200mg tren each week..
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that particular comment wasnt directed to you obviously since the other dude mentioned prolactin and you did not..
okay no big deal you could run some injectable but the heavier ester will cause more water rretention and we already have the enanthate ester from the tren in there and he said he didnt want water retention.... but if you wanted to run test c or e then you could do 250mg ew..
No biggie.
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im not saying you dont believe this to be true or calling you a liar, but i will call whoever told you this a liar.. i find it impossible to believe that anybody had prolactin related side effects at 200mg tren each week..
Taylor, I've known guys who've gotten gyno from 250mg of Test a week. It's not impossible...juts unlikely...some people are just more sensitive then others when it comes to drugs. We're all a little different. Why does some of us retain a shitload of water on cycle & another can take the same compounds & not gain any?
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are we talking about a litle bit of elevated prolactin which has a minor effect on libido, or are we talking about actual real significant side effects?
i did not mean to say that that dose of tren wouldnt make you a litle softer than normall... might happen.. what i meant is it wnt make you completely dead and make you start lactating too..
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are we talking about a litle bit of elevated prolactin which has a minor effect on libido, or are we talking about actual real significant side effects?
i did not mean to say that that dose of tren wouldnt make you a litle softer than normall... might happen.. what i meant is it wnt make you completely dead and make you start lactating too..
If I recall correctly it was more of a libido thing.
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oh.
well none the less some caber would be beneficial even if sides didnt arise. however i dont think its completely necessary. if he has extra money he could take it just for the enhanced sexual experience and elevated energy/mood.
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not gonna get prolactin side effects with that dose of tren for that duration..
andriol provides 40mg test per cap... 2 caps per day is equal to 80mg testosterone per day.. when natural production of testosterone is only , at its highest, 12mg per day..i think 80mg (about 8 times natural production) is MORE than enough testosterone ..
not sayin he would def get prolactin sides from the tren..but it could happen, and nolva wouldnt help him...just suggesting to hav some arimidex and cabaser on hand
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well yeah but adex wouldnt help either and the nolva i listed is for PCT not for side effects..
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Dizzle, not to fuck up your theory, but the 2 times I tried tren, I could not get it up even if Jessica Alba would be licking my balls.
I only took 75 mg EOD of tren, AND I was running 800 mg of testosterone with it.
fuck tren 8)
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Dizzle, not to fuck up your theory, but the 2 times I tried tren, I could not get it up even if Jessica Alba would be licking my balls.
I only took 75 mg EOD of tren, AND I was running 800 mg of testosterone with it.
fuck tren 8)
Same thing happened with me once only on Deca, it was horrible. But...I bounced back with HCG and Cabaser within a week.
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Dizzle, not to fuck up your theory, but the 2 times I tried tren, I could not get it up even if Jessica Alba would be licking my balls.
I only took 75 mg EOD of tren, AND I was running 800 mg of testosterone with it.
fuck tren 8)
no worries man, i have no vested interest in trenbolone being side-effect free.. ;D .. that sucks it efects you like that...trenbolone is one of the most powerful steroids...
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no worries man, i have no vested interest in trenbolone being side-effect free.. ;D .. that sucks it efects you like that...trenbolone is one of the most powerful steroids...
I had great results with testosterone only cycle this summer, but I was also in rebound mode from the show.
I am still wondering what I will run in 2-3 weeks when I get back on again.
I plan on never using Deca or Tren again, someone correct me if I am wrong but I think deca is the worst drug as far as destroying the natural test productions.
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I plan on never using Deca or Tren again, someone correct me if I am wrong but I think deca is the worst drug as far as destroying the natural test productions.
Any exogenous source of hormones will shut your natural production down, there's not one that does it "worse" than the other really. With Tren and Deca they both increase prolactin in a lot of guys, hell even just test can do that for some individuals, which will severely effect you.
It's basically like being in that suspended state right after you orgasm where there's pretty much nothing that will cause your dick to be aroused. Same thing happens, prolactin is released when males orgasm causing that to happen and when it subsides is when you can get erect again. The level released is highly individual, which is why some guys are ready to go shortly after, while others take a while.
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the prolactin should be pretty good for your 'game'... cuz you know the last thing your thinking about after you orgasm is trying to get in a womans pants... so with that clarity of thought you would be much more able to converse in a secure and attractive manner.... however i dont notice this, (but then again i dont notice any prolactin side effects at all)
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the prolactin should be pretty good for your 'game'... cuz you know the last thing your thinking about after you orgasm is trying to get in a womans pants... so with that clarity of thought you would be much more able to converse in a secure and attractive manner.... however i dont notice this, (but then again i dont notice any prolactin side effects at all)
I don't need a game, I just need to fuck or my girlfriend will fuck the milkman while I am gone to work ;D
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Oh and I had a higher than average prolactin before I started steroids and no it doesn't help your game. ;D
The endocrinologist suggested to make sure your shirt/tank top doesn't rub against your nipple at the gym while you are lifting. That raises prolactin even further.
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Dizzle, not to fuck up your theory, but the 2 times I tried tren, I could not get it up even if Jessica Alba would be licking my balls.
I only took 75 mg EOD of tren, AND I was running 800 mg of testosterone with it.
fuck tren 8)
I had the same kind of shutdown with tren. Fucking sucked, I looked the best ever and couldn't get it up to save my life
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I had the same kind of shutdown with tren. Fucking sucked, I looked the best ever and couldn't get it up to save my life
That's why they invented Cialis
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If tren shuts your dick down like that, I would consider getting some cabaser since you seem very sensitive to prolactin, will make you better in bed too ;)