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Title: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: avesher on November 01, 2008, 04:16:57 PM
Who wins in a posedown?

Who wins in a thread moving contest?
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: QuakerOats on November 01, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
Hedge is a strong bastard, pulls over 600 in the deadlift, i think Maxrep was a competitive bodybuilder at one point.
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: avesher on November 01, 2008, 04:23:27 PM
Hedge is a strong bastard, pulls over 600 in the deadlift, i think Maxrep was a competitive bodybuilder at one point.

you missed a gong show last night---guys punching chicks in the face, the chick was a cop.  Sluts everywhere
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: QuakerOats on November 01, 2008, 04:24:20 PM
you missed a gong show last night---guys punching chicks in the face, the chick was a cop.  Sluts everywhere
where was this?
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: avesher on November 01, 2008, 04:25:53 PM
where was this?

at this club I went to--I posted pics in the new digital cam thread I started--im not sure if it was moved
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: QuakerOats on November 01, 2008, 04:26:33 PM
at this club I went to--I posted pics in the new digital cam thread I started--im not sure if it was moved
good stuff man, take anything home to pound on?
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: avesher on November 01, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
good stuff man, take anything home to pound on?

ya I pounded a double whopper with xl fries and a coke---lol--stay tuned for nmore fun tonight---my best friend has a 4500 sf warehouse condo and his bday party is there followed by going to the club he owns.  Should be good times.
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on November 01, 2008, 07:09:24 PM
Posedown?

Max Rep who Ive known for a long time....would win in a landslide....a massive city destroying landslide. He was a great bodybuilder back in the day (trained with Mentzer and Platz at times!) and because he put his time in all those years all the way up to the present....is still one today.

Not even a question....

Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Max_Rep on November 01, 2008, 11:11:21 PM
Posedown?

Max Rep who Ive known for a long time....would win in a landslide....a massive city destroying landslide. He was a great bodybuilder back in the day (trained with Mentzer and Platz at times!) and because he put his time in all those years all the way up to the present....is still one today.

Not even a question....



Well thanks for the props brother but I don’t think anyone but my girlfriend is going to want to see me in shorts. Yes I still train and I’ll be 54 this month. Maybe I’ll get on Tim Wescotts eating plan. I still have my delts, lats and legs... I never had any arms or abs.     

If hedge pulls 600 then he has my respect.

Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: chaos on November 02, 2008, 09:06:41 AM
Plain and simple, Max_Rep is a beast.
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: spinnis on November 02, 2008, 09:09:09 AM
Well thanks for the props brother but I don’t think anyone but my girlfriend is going to want to see me in shorts. Yes I still train and I’ll be 54 this month. Maybe I’ll get on Tim Wescotts eating plan. I still have my delts, lats and legs... I never had any arms or abs.     

If hedge pulls 600 then e has my respect.



What the hell are you doing on teh Internetz?  ;D
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Max_Rep on November 02, 2008, 09:46:55 AM
What the hell are you doing on teh Internetz?  ;D

I'm STILL trying to figure that one out!  ;D

Thanks Dante and Chaos... nice comments. By the way, I didn't train WITH Platz. I was just a witness to his madness. I DID train with Padilla, Grant, Bannout, Mike and Ray Mentzer, Lleidelmeyer and Chick. And I have interviewed around 20 other Pro's for Iron Man... diets, training, cardio etc. None of that make ME anything but someone with some experience to pull from.

Hedge and I did trade some PM's a LONG time ago and I could tell he was also VERY informed on strength training.

The problem (if you could call it that) is that on Getbig, you never know if you’re getting REAL advise or just some bs some guy made up to f with everyone.

At my biggest ever, we used to have fun at the gym by totally making up some bs exercise. Two days later 15 guys would be doing it. We’d (my training buddies) all get a chuckle. I remember one guy was HUGE and ripped. He never competed but he could have. Guys would ask him his secret and he’d tell them he ate a half a gallon of Haggen Das ice cream every night before bed. You’d see these guys getting fatter and fatter by the week after talking to him.
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: wavelength on November 02, 2008, 10:15:06 AM
I'm STILL trying to figure that one out!  ;D

Thanks Dante and Chaos... nice comments. By the way, I didn't train WITH Platz. I was just a witness to his madness. I DID train with Padilla, Grant, Bannout, Mike and Ray Mentzer, Lleidelmeyer and Chick. And I have interviewed around 20 other Pro's for Iron Man... diets, training, cardio etc. None of that make ME anything but someone with some experience to pull from.

Hedge and I did trade some PM's a LONG time ago and I could tell he was also VERY informed on strength training.

The problem (if you could call it that) is that on Getbig, you never know if you’re getting REAL advise or just some bs some guy made up to f with everyone.

At my biggest ever, we used to have fun at the gym by totally making up some bs exercise. Two days later 15 guys would be doing it. We’d (my training buddies) all get a chuckle. I remember one guy was HUGE and ripped. He never competed but he could have. Guys would ask him his secret and he’d tell them he ate a half a gallon of Haggen Das ice cream every night before bed. You’d see these guys getting fatter and fatter by the week after talking to him.

:o :o :o
Any stories you might be willing to share?
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Max_Rep on November 02, 2008, 10:34:26 AM
:o :o :o
Any stories you might be willing to share?

You mean like the time Danny’s roommate was training for a show and baked a chocolate cake iced it and Danny found him punching it and throwing gobs of it all over the kitchen of their apartment because he couldn’t eat it? Stories like that?

Or the time we Samir, our training partner Steve and I were squatting. We were working up in weight with 315 on the bar and Samir did a few BNP (jerk presses) with the weight. Samir really liked to socialize and we had to constantly pull him back into the workout BUT he really pushed us on weight especially on BB and DB rows. My back exploded training with him.

These stories have been told many times on here so I’m sure I’d bore most of the members with them.
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: wavelength on November 02, 2008, 10:40:26 AM
You mean like the time Danny’s roommate was training for a show and baked a chocolate cake iced it and Danny found him punching it and throwing gobs of it all over the kitchen of their apartment because he couldn’t eat it? Stories like that?

Or the time we Samir, our training partner Steve and I were squatting. We were working up in weight with 315 on the bar and Samir did a few BNP (jerk presses) with the weight. Samir really liked to socialize and we had to constantly pull him back into the workout BUT he really pushed us on weight especially on BB and DB rows. My back exploded training with him.

These stories have been told many times on here so I’m sure I’d bore most of the members with them.

Haha, awesome!
I'm sure you wouldn't bore anybody here, if you have more, please share!
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: MAXX on November 02, 2008, 11:22:42 AM
Hedge pulls 600?

Damn good for a natural


(he is natural right?)
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Max_Rep on November 02, 2008, 11:55:44 AM
Haha, awesome!
I'm sure you wouldn't bore anybody here, if you have more, please share!

The third guy when I trained with Samir used to snort Chrytal Meth. Samir and I hated the stuff but Steve wanted anything that would bring his intesity up. He go into the bathroom and hit some right before we trained. It made him talk so fast, that he souded like a machine gun. So Samir and I had (and to this day still do) a nickname for Steve "Da Da Diss". We do this imitation of a guy shooting a Machine gun and we make that sound. That's how we greet each other. 

Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: wes on November 02, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
Dave,you`re the man buddy!!
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: wavelength on November 02, 2008, 03:17:50 PM
The third guy when I trained with Samir used to snort Chrytal Meth. Samir and I hated the stuff but Steve wanted anything that would bring his intesity up. He go into the bathroom and hit some right before we trained. It made him talk so fast, that he souded like a machine gun. So Samir and I had (and to this day still do) a nickname for Steve "Da Da Diss". We do this imitation of a guy shooting a Machine gun and we make that sound. That's how we greet each other. 

Hahahaha, is this for real? ;D











Are you BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT?
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Max_Rep on November 02, 2008, 03:57:21 PM
Hahahaha, is this for real? ;D











Are you BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT?

Yes it’s absolutely true.

Hell no, I’m not BEEFYHEAVEYWEIGHT. I don’t have any this guy was G4p stories. Just training and a few funny stories. 
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: QuakerOats on November 02, 2008, 03:58:30 PM
great stories Maxrep.
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: onlyme on November 02, 2008, 04:25:22 PM
I know and worked with Max Rep and I am pretty sure he would take Hedge in any type of competition.  And for BB knowledge he is very hard to beat on here.  I only wish I had his memory.
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Max_Rep on November 02, 2008, 04:40:41 PM
…waiting for Danny Padilla to train.

At the time Danny was training for the IFBB Mr. USA (the NPC did not yet exist). Danny had been out to California several times but we still lived in Rochester.

We trained at Turner Barbell Club which was in the basement of an old, old, old brick building that was owned by a German Gymnastics Association. We (35 members) rented a space that was formerly 4 bowling lanes. Someone had nailed plywood over the lanes and the equipment was homemade welded by one of the members and old Olympic sets a few used commercial pieces, the pipes leaked, the place smelled like mold. It was hot and humid in the summer and cold in the winter.

No, we didn’t walk 50 miles in the snow to train... ha, ha, ha!

 So why was Danny late? Well you see he was doing his OTHER favorite activity. He was at the race track betting the horses. Every day… like clockwork. 
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: QuakerOats on November 02, 2008, 04:44:16 PM
…waiting for Danny Padilla to train.

At the time Danny was training for the IFBB Mr. USA (the NPC did not yet exist). Danny had been out to California several times but we still lived in Rochester.

We trained at Turner Barbell Club which was in the basement of an old, old, old brick building that was owned by a German Gymnastics Association. We (35 members) rented a space that was formerly 4 bowling lanes. Someone had nailed plywood over the lanes and the equipment was homemade welded by one of the members and old Olympic sets a few used commercial pieces, the pipes leaked, the place smelled like mold. It was hot and humid in the summer and cold in the winter.

No, we didn’t walk 50 miles in the snow to train... ha, ha, ha!

 So why was Danny late? Well you see he was doing his OTHER favorite activity. He was at the race track betting the horses. Every day… like clockwork. 

hey Max was that George Turner who owned Turner Barbell Club, he's a legend here in STL and i know he spent some time on the west coast.
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Max_Rep on November 02, 2008, 06:17:06 PM
hey Max was that George Turner who owned Turner Barbell Club, he's a legend here in STL and i know he spent some time on the west coast.

No. Turner Barbell Club had to ties to George Turner whatsoever.

However, when I came to LA and started training with Samir Bannout, his training had been heavily influenced by George and we followed Georges split and volume protocol which was 3 on, one off and 10-12 sets per bodypart.

I met George at the Iron man offices around 10 years ago. He was living in San Diego I believe. 
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Max_Rep on November 02, 2008, 11:25:16 PM
Dave,you`re the man buddy!!

No Tim YOU are the man. You’re the one out there doing it. I’m just banging around in the gym.

I know and worked with Max Rep and I am pretty sure he would take Hedge in any type of competition.  And for BB knowledge he is very hard to beat on here.  I only wish I had his memory.

I still love to train Keith. I’ve been going through Active Release Therapy so the injuries are almost all behind me. Now I can step it up a bit.

Benny Podda

Benny (BTW, Benny was not his real first name he took it on after his father died. His father was Benny) has to be one of the most “colorful” personalities I’ve ever met.  Craved attention (imagine that… a bodybuilder who craves attention) and loved to make people laugh.

Ray, Benny, Mike, some of the regulars at Ray’s gym (Muscle Mill) in Redondo Beach, CA and myself would go out to eat after the gym closed at 9:00 p.m.

One night after we ate we were all outside talking. Only a guy named Ross and myself knew the proper way to alleviate our excess testosterone and Ross was doing so by talking to a seemingly willing tenderloin (girl).  She was in a convertible and Ross squatted down next to her car and was giving it his best sale pitch.

We had carpooled (a feat in itself) to the restaurant and those guy’s wanted to go. Benny yells out “Ross if you ain’t gonna d**k her, let’s get the f**k outa here”. Ross keeps talking but says just give me a minute.  Benny goes up to the car holds one nostril closed and blows a snot on her windshield.  The girl freaks but Ross tries to overcome it.   

Next thing we heard Benny shout out “Ross call the fire department”!  Benny has his pants around his knees and he’s lighting his pubic hair on fire! 

The next thing you we heard was the squeal of her tires as she sped out of the parking lot like a bat out of hell!  “Call the fire department” became Benny’s knew moniker.

What a character!

Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Hedgehog on November 03, 2008, 12:57:34 PM
Hedge pulls 600?

Damn good for a natural


(he is natural right?)


IMO 600+ lbs is ok for a natural @ 198 lbs. My personal best is 616 or 620, I can't remember which (so prolly 616).
Not great but not bad either.

I pulled 594 lbs (?) for my opener the other day. Missed the second and third attempts on 638 lbs.

Dave (Max_Rep) trained with some of the strongest BB's, Ray Mentzer especially, and kicked ass in the early 80's.

From what I know, he was a fcuking tank.

Someone who trained with Ray Mentzer and didn't get embarassed while at it, is a strong motherfcuker for sure.



Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: wavelength on November 03, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
…waiting for Danny Padilla to train.

At the time Danny was training for the IFBB Mr. USA (the NPC did not yet exist). Danny had been out to California several times but we still lived in Rochester.

We trained at Turner Barbell Club which was in the basement of an old, old, old brick building that was owned by a German Gymnastics Association. We (35 members) rented a space that was formerly 4 bowling lanes. Someone had nailed plywood over the lanes and the equipment was homemade welded by one of the members and old Olympic sets a few used commercial pieces, the pipes leaked, the place smelled like mold. It was hot and humid in the summer and cold in the winter.

No, we didn’t walk 50 miles in the snow to train... ha, ha, ha!

 So why was Danny late? Well you see he was doing his OTHER favorite activity. He was at the race track betting the horses. Every day… like clockwork. 


Danny must have been one hell of a funny guy to be around. That must have been so awesome training with him. :D
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Bobby on November 03, 2008, 01:57:36 PM
Great stories max rep!!

Do you have any pictures from those days?
Title: Re: Hedgehog versus Max Rep
Post by: Max_Rep on November 03, 2008, 11:43:12 PM


IMO 600+ lbs is ok for a natural @ 198 lbs. My personal best is 616 or 620, I can't remember which (so prolly 616).
Not great but not bad either.

I pulled 594 lbs (?) for my opener the other day. Missed the second and third attempts on 638 lbs.

Dave (Max_Rep) trained with some of the strongest BB's, Ray Mentzer especially, and kicked ass in the early 80's.

From what I know, he was a fcuking tank.

Someone who trained with Ray Mentzer and didn't get embarassed while at it, is a strong motherfcuker for sure.


Damn Hedgehog those are some impressive numbers. Trust me keeping up with Ray in strength was impossible BUT back in the day I was able to match anyone (except Platz and maybe Defendis and Michalik) with intensity and drive. That was why I was able to train with so many Champions and my claim to fame. I never had the genetics nor was I willing to go over a moderate dosage to ever make much of a mark. My strongest lifts where BB and DB rows, DB curls, Squats and Leg presses. At my best I regularly did BB Rows with 365 for 8 and 180 DB’s for about 8 form was with a little body English. I sucked at any pressing movements but was strong with flies and laterals.     

Danny must have been one hell of a funny guy to be around. That must have been so awesome training with him. :D

Danny is a riot and he really got me straightened around with training. His routines worked well for me although I can’t imagine putting that kind of time in anymore. Danny always has great stories and between he and Samir I don’t know who does a better Joe Weider imitation.

Great stories max rep!!

Do you have any pictures from those days?

Bobby I really “f”ed up there. At my biggest I got up to about 215 and pretty hard at 5’7”. But I knew I wasn’t hard enough for pictures so I never had any taken. Then I got injured and married and never got up there again. I had photos done when I was about 190 and off all “help” for 6 months but they were for modeling and acting and this IS getbig and I know what kind of comments they’d get.

Trust me guys this thread is not about how great David (cause I’m not) is but simply about some experiences I had that some people might find fun or entertaining.