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Title: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Dos Equis on November 02, 2008, 10:27:54 AM
Interesting to see the Obama campaign has been having daily prayer conference calls. 

Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
While politicians are making their final pitch to voters, religious Americans from across the political spectrum are appealing to a higher power on the candidates' behalf.

FOXNews.com

Sunday, 2008-02-307

They're fasting on the steps of the Florida legislature, hoping God will hear their pleas to put an abortion opponent in the White House.

Prayer warriors will staff the get-out-the-vote command center Tuesday at Ebenezer A.M.E. Church in Fort Washington, Maryland. A rabbi is distributing a prayer to be said in the voting booth. Prayer circles are seeking courage and protection for Barack Obama and his family.

The faithful are busy as the Nov. 4 election day nears.

While politicians are making their final pitch to voters, religious Americans from across the political spectrum are appealing to a higher power on the candidates' behalf.

"We have just days to pray that someone who upholds the sanctity of life and marriage between one man and one woman will win," said Pam Olsen, co-pastor with her husband of the International House of Prayer in Tallahassee, Florida.

Olsen, who personally supports Republican John McCain, is organizing a marathon of prayer, fasting and Bible reading at the Capitol starting Saturday until the state's polls close.

"The outcome is up to God," she said.

Rabbi David Seidenberg of Northampton, Massachusetts, has written a prayer in Hebrew and English that can be recited just before filling out a ballot. Posted on his blog neohasid.org, and distributed through e-mail, it includes a voter pledge to heal the world and a wish for the country to "pursue righteousness and to seek peace."

"There still is so much hope and feeling connected to this election and I want to say that in as nonpartisan a way as possible," Seidenberg said in an interview. "It really feels like so much hangs in the balance and so many dreams and hopes hang in the balance right now."

Many of the election-related prayers seek wisdom for voters to choose the right leader.

For the first time, the U.S.'s Roman Catholic bishops have published prayers for immediately before and after the election. They focus on dignity for all, an end to poverty and for "ears that will hear the cries of children unborn." At the bishops' urging, many Catholic parishes on Oct. 27 began a novena, or nine-day prayer cycle, for the election.

Other appeals get into the nitty gritty of campaigning.

Seidenberg's text reads, "May it be Your will that votes will be counted faithfully." Among the prayers Olsen's group suggested in the run-up to Nov. 4 is for "the Lord to move in swing states."

At presidentialprayerteam.n et, where people post their appeals on a "prayer wall," Denise from Texas asked God to reach people who haven't yet committed to voting.

"Let them not be phased by polls, TV ads, political sound bites," she wrote. "And for those, Dear God, who need to vote for Your will to be done ... please get them off the sofa and to the voting booth."

Praying for campaigns and for the health of the nation is hardly new in elections. But this year has seen a more public display of faith among supporters of the Democrat nominee. The Obama campaign's prayer conference calls went from weekly to daily four months ago, and will continue through Election Day. Supporters of the Illinois senator have started prayer circles, enlisting friends to join them online, on the phone or in person to pray for wisdom for the candidate.

Many churches, including Olsen's, started prayer efforts a month or more ahead of Nov. 4.
The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, the public policy arm of the 16 million-member Southern Baptist Convention, is wrapping up its 40-day effort with round-the-clock prayer ahead of the election. The commission says more than 4,000 churches are participating.

The hourly prayers begin with repenting personal sin and include appeals for "candidates to adopt biblical positions on issues" and remember they are accountable to God.

In a practical turn, participants also pray for God to "help churches find ways to help Christians get to the polls."

For leaders making personal endorsements, the prayers are unapologetically partisan. Steve Strang, publisher of Charisma, a popular Pentecostal magazine, asked his many readers in an e-mail to pray, fast and "believe for a miracle to see John McCain get elected."

But many pastors are warning against asking God for a specific outcome.

The Rev. Adam Hamilton, senior pastor of the 12,000-member United Methodist Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, Kansas, has urging his congregants simply to pray for help choosing the right leader for the country. Author of the book, "Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White: Thoughts on Religion, Morality and Politics," Hamilton said no one knows "who God's person for the hour is."

And considering the state of the economy and the other daunting problems facing the U.S. and the world, Hamilton said churches would do better to focus on asking God to help whoever succeeds President Bush.

"Who wants this job right now?" Hamilton said. "Whoever wins this election, we're going to have to pull together to pray for them."

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/02/prayer-warriors-fast-steps-florida-legislature/
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 02, 2008, 10:37:16 AM
Stupidest thing I ever heard of.
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: w8tlftr on November 02, 2008, 11:08:59 AM
Um... one of the greatest gifts God gave us is the free will to make our own choices - good and bad. I don't think he's going to directly influence this election and make people vote one way or the other.  ::)


Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: drkaje on November 02, 2008, 11:17:36 AM
One would think Right Wingers might find that comforting.
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: w8tlftr on November 02, 2008, 11:23:28 AM
One would think Right Wingers might find that comforting.

Like most people entrenched in an argument only when things go their way.

Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: drkaje on November 02, 2008, 01:25:22 PM
I thought dems never prayed and couldn't believe in God.
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: w8tlftr on November 02, 2008, 01:30:52 PM
I thought dems never prayed and couldn't believe in God.

Maybe they pray to Gaia?

Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: timfogarty on November 02, 2008, 03:48:24 PM
I thought dems never prayed and couldn't believe in God.

that's because you only get your information from right wing hate radio
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 02, 2008, 08:02:39 PM
Stupidest thing I ever heard of.

 ;D
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 02, 2008, 08:03:41 PM
Um... one of the greatest gifts God gave us is the free will to make our own choices - good and bad. I don't think he's going to directly influence this election and make people vote one way or the other.  ::)

You must be posting from the "Straight Talk Express"!
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: w8tlftr on November 02, 2008, 08:04:32 PM
You must be posting from the "Straight Talk Express"!

I hate trains.  ;D
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 02, 2008, 08:07:20 PM
I hate trains.  ;D

haha
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: 24KT on November 02, 2008, 11:22:38 PM
{LOL} Remember what happened when Republicans prayed for rain to wash out the Dem convention?

Maybe they ought to keep quiet this time?  :P
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: w8tlftr on November 03, 2008, 06:20:16 AM
{LOL} Remember what happened when Republicans prayed for rain to wash out the Dem convention?

Maybe they ought to keep quiet this time?  :P

That's only because Dems are dirty hippies that smell like pot and sour milk.

I heard the Repubs had booths giving out free soap too.  ;)

Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Hedgehog on November 03, 2008, 07:06:48 AM
BB, you're Hawaiian.
How are you guys feeling about your boy Obama and his run?
Saw some article about how Hawaii might be made into the 'West White House'.
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2008, 08:08:19 AM
BB, you're Hawaiian.
How are you guys feeling about your boy Obama and his run?
Saw some article about how Hawaii might be made into the 'West White House'.

Well the governor questions his Hawaii ties, but about 90 percent of the rest are Obama disciples.  I think he probably wins about 70 to 80 percent of the vote tomorrow. 

I have to practically duck whenever I tell someone I'm voting for McCain. 
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: CQ on November 03, 2008, 08:39:43 AM
Well the governor questions his Hawaii ties, but about 90 percent of the rest are Obama disciples.  I think he probably wins about 70 to 80 percent of the vote tomorrow. 

I have to practically duck whenever I tell someone I'm voting for McCain. 


Yay! ;D
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: w8tlftr on November 03, 2008, 09:29:14 AM
Yay! ;D

Not yay. Fucking sad.  >:(

Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2008, 10:45:44 AM
Yay! ;D

Hey my sister is voting for Obama.   :-\  She has been harassing me for weeks.   :D
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: CQ on November 03, 2008, 11:23:11 AM
Hey my sister is voting for Obama.   :-\  She has been harassing me for weeks.   :D

The genetic gender superiority shows again. Tell your sister I said keep up the quality work ;)
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2008, 11:25:04 AM
The genetic gender superiority shows again. Tell your sister I said keep up the quality work ;)

We talk every week, so I'll tell her she has at least one bleeding heart liberal supporter.  :)
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: big L dawg on November 03, 2008, 11:30:16 AM
two hands working can do more than thousands clasped in prayer.
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: CQ on November 03, 2008, 11:34:41 AM
two hands working can do more than thousands clasped in prayer.

Great quote.
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2008, 11:44:51 AM
two hands working can do more than thousands clasped in prayer.

Two hands working with two or three gathered together in prayer is even better. 
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: big L dawg on November 03, 2008, 11:47:13 AM
Two hands working with two or three gathered together in prayer is even better. 

the two or three gathered in prayer are wasting there time.
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 03, 2008, 11:55:07 AM
Hey my sister is voting for Obama.   :-\  She has been harassing me for weeks.   :D

She isn't born-again?  ???
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2008, 11:58:51 AM
She isn't born-again?  ???

She is, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? 
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 03, 2008, 12:00:57 PM
She is, but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? 

She doesn't mind Obama's stance on Abortion?
Title: Re: Final Weekend for 'Prayer Warriors' to Appeal to Higher Power
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2008, 12:02:14 PM
She doesn't mind Obama's stance on Abortion?

Never asked her.