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Title: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Colossus_500 on November 04, 2008, 07:31:42 PM
My friends, tonight is shaping up to be a WOODSHED job for the Republicans.   :o   In some ways, I see this as a good thing because there needed to be a "purging" of sorts.  Goodbye RINOs and here's to a future rising of true pro-family, social conservatives.

That being said, I had to post something positive for my fellow Getbig conservatives:   ;)

Florida Marriage Amendment Holding Strong

The Florida Marriage Protection Amendment – Amendment 2 – is faring well. Recent polls show the amendment, which defines marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman, has 63 percent support. It needs 60 percent to pass.

John Stemberger, president of the Florida Family Policy Council, is encouraged by the numbers but said it’s too early to celebrate as they are still waiting for results from Florida’s larger counties.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: tonymctones on November 04, 2008, 07:33:46 PM
My friends, tonight is shaping up to be a WOODSHED job for the Republicans.   :o   In some ways, I see this as a good thing because there needed to be a "purging" of sorts.  Goodbye RINOs and here's to a future rising of true pro-family, social conservatives.

That being said, I had to post something positive for my fellow Getbig conservatives:   ;)

Florida Marriage Amendment Holding Strong

The Florida Marriage Protection Amendment – Amendment 2 – is faring well. Recent polls show the amendment, which defines marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman, has 63 percent support. It needs 60 percent to pass.

John Stemberger, president of the Florida Family Policy Council, is encouraged by the numbers but said it’s too early to celebrate as they are still waiting for results from Florida’s larger counties.
LOL ill drink to that
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Dos Equis on November 04, 2008, 07:37:38 PM
My friends, tonight is shaping up to be a WOODSHED job for the Republicans.   :o   In some ways, I see this as a good thing because there needed to be a "purging" of sorts.  Goodbye RINOs and here's to a future rising of true pro-family, social conservatives.

That being said, I had to post something positive for my fellow Getbig conservatives:   ;)

Florida Marriage Amendment Holding Strong

The Florida Marriage Protection Amendment – Amendment 2 – is faring well. Recent polls show the amendment, which defines marriage as the legal union of only one man and one woman, has 63 percent support. It needs 60 percent to pass.

John Stemberger, president of the Florida Family Policy Council, is encouraged by the numbers but said it’s too early to celebrate as they are still waiting for results from Florida’s larger counties.

It's at 62 percent with 70 percent of precincts reporting. 

In addition to CA, there is one on the ballot in Arizona. 
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 04, 2008, 07:46:02 PM
LOL @ having to resort to worrying about gay marriages in order to feel good about yourself because your POTUS candidate is getting his ass kicked from one end of the country to the other.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Colossus_500 on November 04, 2008, 08:52:48 PM
LOL @ having to resort to worrying about gay marriages in order to feel good about yourself because your POTUS candidate is getting his ass kicked from one end of the country to the other.
Wow!   :-\

Pitiful.  Just Pitiful.  Carry on, Lurker.  Carry on. 
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 04, 2008, 08:57:28 PM
Thank god they are banning gay marriages, would hate to see you rush out and get one.

Since you obviously have such a keen interest in what homosexuals do with themselves.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Colossus_500 on November 04, 2008, 09:11:28 PM
Thank god they are banning gay marriages, would hate to see you rush out and get one.

Since you obviously have such a keen interest in what homosexuals do with themselves.

Who are you?  LOL   

I can't help you, bro.  Do your thing, man. 
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: w8tlftr on November 04, 2008, 09:30:42 PM
Who are you?  LOL   

I can't help you, bro.  Do your thing, man. 

Don't feed the forum troll, brah.

Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Colossus_500 on November 04, 2008, 09:32:55 PM
Don't feed the forum troll, brah.


LOL!!!! 
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Dos Equis on November 04, 2008, 10:01:15 PM
Looks like homosexual marriage was banned by the voters in Arizona, California, and Florida.  Homosexual couple adoptions were banned in Arkansas. 

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/ballot.measures/
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Al Doggity on November 04, 2008, 10:02:24 PM
LOL @ having to resort to worrying about gay marriages in order to feel good about yourself because your POTUS candidate is getting his ass kicked from one end of the country to the other.
qft.

Btw, the worst thing repubs could do is "purge" rinos and drift ven further away from the mainstream.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: marcus on November 05, 2008, 03:06:25 AM
Looks like homosexual marriage was banned by the voters in Arizona, California, and Florida.  Homosexual couple adoptions were banned in Arkansas. 

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/ballot.measures/

Weird, I'd never expect that in Cali.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 05, 2008, 07:23:25 AM
Well I am glad they banned gay marriage.  Making it legal would have certainly caused a lot of heterosexuals to rush out and get one.

 ::)

You lost the election.

You lost the White House.

You lost the Senate.

You lost the House.

You lost the Supreme Court direction.

But THANK GOD you won on the gay marriage issue.  That's really something to brag about.

 ::)  Carry on toodles, the bytchslap from America must realllllllyyyy sting.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 05, 2008, 07:36:08 AM
As long as they are protected with civil unions, that should be good enough.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: MCWAY on November 05, 2008, 08:05:14 AM
Weird, I'd never expect that in Cali.

I’ve seen conflicting reports. CNN claims that exit polls show the amendment in California, losing 53-47. However, Fox News (TV) says that the issue is still undecided; while the online report states that, with 84% of the precincts reporting, the amendment was winning 52-48.

This is an issue that transcends parties. Keep in mind that Florida is now a "blue" state. That would mean that Obama voters had as much to do with Florida's amendment passing as McCain voters did.

In 2004, even in states where Kerry won handily (Michigan, Oregon, Wisconsin), marriage amendments, defining the institution as a union between a man and woman, passed with relative ease.

So, this issue ain't just a "red" thing.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: OzmO on November 05, 2008, 08:10:12 AM
Prop 8 should pass.  But in 10 years years something like this probably won't because it's real close now.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Dos Equis on November 05, 2008, 08:10:32 AM
I’ve seen conflicting reports. CNN claims that exit polls show the amendment in California, losing 53-47. However, Fox News (TV) says that the issue is still undecided; while the online report states that, with 84% of the precincts reporting, the amendment was winning 52-48.

This is an issue that transcends parties. Keep in mind that Florida is now a "blue" state. That would mean that Obama voters had as much to do with Florida's amendment passing as McCain voters did.

In 2004, even in states where Kerry won handily (Michigan, Oregon, Wisconsin), marriage amendments, defining the institution as a union between a man and woman, passed with relative ease.

So, this issue ain't just a "red" thing.

Passed in Arizona too.  
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: MCWAY on November 05, 2008, 08:15:49 AM
Prop 8 should pass.  But in 10 years years something like this probably won't because it's real close now.

Perhaps, that’s true. But (assuming the numbers hold, as Fox News stated earlier), will gay “marriage” supporters do what their opponents did and get an initiative put on the ballot?

I've maintained (as much as I disagree with gay "marriage") that supporters of such should do just that. If their opponents can gather signatures and get the vote out, they can too. They tried passing a same-sex "marriage" law, via the Legislature; but Arnold put an end to that.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: MCWAY on November 05, 2008, 09:53:36 AM
Fox News has just reported (TV) that, Proposition 8 in California has PASSED, by a 52-48 margin. Although, a bunch of lawsuits will likely be on the horizon (particularly as it relates to whether the at least 11,000 gay "marriages" performed before today are still valid), marriage in California is, once again, a union between one man and one woman.

That puts the number of states with marriage amendments up to 30, reducing the number of states in which gay “marriage” is legal back to 2 (Mass., Connecticut).
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Dos Equis on November 05, 2008, 10:27:45 AM
Also note that Obama won California by a over 2.4 million votes, and Prop 8 still passed.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 05, 2008, 10:31:25 AM
So like Rush do you guys a renewed moral majority focus is the appropriate new direction for republicans? 
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: MCWAY on November 05, 2008, 10:48:30 AM
So like Rush do you guys a renewed moral majority focus is the appropriate new direction for republicans? 

As I said before, this issue goes BEYOND parties. You might be interested to know that 35 percent of Democrats (in the BLUEST state of them all, perhaps) voted for Prop. 8; Nearly half of Democratic voters in the now-"blue" state of Florida voted for its Amendment 2, defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

It also transcends race, as 70 percent of black voters in California and 71 percent of black voters in Florida voted to pass their states' respective amendments.

The lopsided win for Obama in the presidental race DOES NOT mean that people are endorsing gay "marriage". Again, Obama voters had as much to do with this as McCain voters did.

As for renewed focus for Republicans, it was fiscal foolishness that spelled DOOM for the GOP. What this Obama election and the passing of the marriage amendments have shown me is that, while economic issues ruled the day, social issues are still important to BOTH sides of the aisle.

I think this also encourages those folks in Mass., who have been repeatedly hamstrung by a crooked liberal legislature and governor, bent on NOT letting the people have their say on the issue of marriage. The mentality has been that, once gay "marriage" is legalized in a state, that's all she wrote and those who oppose it just have stand by and take it. What just happened in California proves that such is NOT TRUE!!
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 05, 2008, 05:29:49 PM
So like Rush do you guys a renewed moral majority focus is the appropriate new direction for republicans? 

No.  That is just an excuse to use as ointment for the beat down they just received.  They just need something to call a victory and comfort them after America shitkicked them to the curb.

They didn't win the White House.  They didn't win Congress.  They didn't win the direction of the Supreme Court will be molded in.  They really didn't win shit.  Except for a ban on gay marriages????? 

Not much of a victory in the long run.  Hell, speaking of morals... they even lost Amendment 48: Human Life from Moment of Conception.  73% rejected because the nation doesn't agree with their silly views, Thank God.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2008, 05:38:45 PM
No.  That is just an excuse to use as ointment for the beat down they just received.  They just need something to call a victory and comfort them after America shitkicked them to the curb.

They didn't win the White House.  They didn't win Congress.  They didn't win the direction of the Supreme Court will be molded in.  They really didn't win shit.  Except for a ban on gay marriages????? 

Not much of a victory in the long run.  Hell, speaking of morals... they even lost Amendment 48: Human Life from Moment of Conception.  73% rejected because the nation doesn't agree with their silly views, Thank God.
::) yes you have thwarted the evil republican party cudos your a fuking ass hat you know that. Does this mean that everytime your party loses its being kicked to the curb? this is why we have more than one party so we can have optinos its inevitable that republicans will be back in power sooner or later dumb ass.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 05, 2008, 06:27:49 PM
Whatever excuse you have to tell yourself at night to keep from crying in your sleep twinkletoes works for me.

Republicans = FAIL
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2008, 06:32:40 PM
Whatever excuse you have to tell yourself at night to keep from crying in your sleep twinkletoes works for me.

Republicans = FAIL
LOL do us all a favor and hold your breath for obamas promises
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 05, 2008, 07:12:52 PM
Do us all a favor and pull your head out of your ass so we can all see the tears.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2008, 07:18:37 PM
Do us all a favor and pull your head out of your ass so we can all see the tears.
LOL no tears ive already said it i hope he is a great president but i hope he doesnt get half of the shit he wants accomplished b/c i dont agree with his policies. The thing is you hate mccain b/c he is republican no other reason which is ignorant as fuck and what makes it worse is you are so ignorant you dont see it.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 05, 2008, 07:29:11 PM
4 years is a long time to be bitter.  Did you see all the quivering upper lips and sniffling going on with the cons in the audience when McFail gave his speech of defeat?
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on November 05, 2008, 07:31:49 PM
4 years is a long time to be bitter.  Did you see all the quivering upper lips and sniffling going on with the cons in the audience when McFail gave his speech of defeat?

You've been owned for 8 years.  I guess now we'll see how badly someone can screw up the presidency.  This should be fun!
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 06, 2008, 08:21:57 AM
Bitter Nancies still trying to cling to a failed issue.

America spoke and said "thanks but no thanks."

Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: MCWAY on November 08, 2008, 01:44:20 PM


4 years is a long time to be bitter.  Did you see all the quivering upper lips and sniffling going on with the cons in the audience when McFail gave his speech of defeat?

Yep! They looked EXACTLY like those of the liberals when Kerry lost four years ago.

And who says it's going to be four years? Did you forget how the Democrats made major gains in 2006, after getting pounded in 2004?

Just at the beating liberals took in '02 and '04 didn't spell the end of the Democratic party, this whacking absorbed by conservatives in '06 and '08 doesn't mean curtains for them.



Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: drkaje on November 08, 2008, 04:55:40 PM
Maybe the era of big government conservatives is over.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: MCWAY on November 08, 2008, 05:35:38 PM
Maybe the era of big government conservatives is over.

Perhaps.

The way I see it, the economy and the Iraq War are the driving reasons for Obama's resounding win. But, as demonstrated by the marriage amendments (and to the shock of certain liberals), votes for Obama DO NOT automatically translate into votes for gay "marriage".
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: drkaje on November 09, 2008, 10:29:43 AM
Perhaps.

The way I see it, the economy and the Iraq War are the driving reasons for Obama's resounding win. But, as demonstrated by the marriage amendments (and to the shock of certain liberals), votes for Obama DO NOT automatically translate into votes for gay "marriage".

Obama was never for gay marriage. Not sure if it's a personal conviction or just a topic they avoided to get minority votes and keep things from being even more polarized. :)

Not really sure what I would say in his position. My unedited personal opinion really wouldn't get votes on either side of the issue.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Dos Equis on November 11, 2008, 02:53:55 PM
Obama was never for gay marriage. Not sure if it's a personal conviction or just a topic they avoided to get minority votes and keep things from being even more polarized. :)

Not really sure what I would say in his position. My unedited personal opinion really wouldn't get votes on either side of the issue.

Both he and Biden try to play both sides of the issue.  They say on one hand they are opposed, but on the other hand they oppose any effort to stop homosexual marriage. 
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2008, 04:30:05 PM
Both he and Biden try to play both sides of the issue.  They say on one hand they are opposed, but on the other hand they oppose any effort to stop homosexual marriage. 

It sounds to me as if they're doing exactly what Arnold Schwarzenegger is doing in California (except he vetoed two bills, which would have legalized gay "marriage").

He keeps flip-flopping between saying he respects the courts and saying he respects the people's vote on this matter.
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: Dos Equis on November 11, 2008, 04:34:26 PM
It sounds to me as if they're doing exactly what Arnold Schwarzenegger is doing in California (except he vetoed two bills, which would have legalized gay "marriage").

He keeps flip-flopping between saying he respects the courts and saying he respects the people's vote on this matter.

Didn't both Obama and Biden say they opposed prop 8? 
Title: Re: Here's the only bright spot thus far for conservatives
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2008, 04:39:16 PM
Didn't both Obama and Biden say they opposed prop 8? 

I think Obama did; I'm not sure about Biden.