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and calls Hagel not conservative for.... criticism of the Bush Admin... ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
When asked why Powell wasn't a real republican, he attacks his military service!!!!
Funny how far Hagel has deviated from conservatives in recent years and HE's the one Obama picks. It's not "reaching over the isle" the guy keeps siding with dems, moron. ;D
And we all know Powell.. more of a 'staff' officer, not so much combat material and it shows.
Both Powell and Hagel have extremely respectable military records, nice brix, nice....
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and calls Hagel not conservative for.... criticism of the Bush Admin... ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
When asked why Powell wasn't a real republican, he attacks his military service!!!!
Both Powell and Hagel have extremely respectable military records, nice brix, nice....
Lol, it's not bipartisan to reach over the isle to repubs WHO SUPPORT THE SAME AGENDA AS THE OPPOSING PARTY.
Nice try though and supporting someone like Obongo is proof that Powell was never conservative.
Wayne Gilcrest (R) from MD has a good military record and he's still an idiot, so what? McCain has an even more heroic record and you lowlifes have still spit the venom at the man.
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[edit] Military career
While at City College, Powell joined the Reserve Officers' Training Corps and later described it as one of the happiest experiences of his life; finding something he loved and could do well, he felt he had "found himself." Cadet Powell joined the Pershing Rifles, the ROTC fraternal organization and drill team started by Gen. John Pershing. Even after Powell became a General, he still kept on his desk a pen set he had won for a drill team competition. After graduating from City College in June 1958, he was granted a commission as an Army Second Lieutenant.[10] Powell was a professional soldier for 35 years, during which time he held a variety of command and staff positions and rose to the rank of General.[11]
While serving with the Third Armored Division in Germany as a Lieutenant, he met Elvis Presley, then serving in that unit. During the Vietnam War, Powell was a captain, serving as a South Vietnamese Army advisor from 1962 to 1963. While on patrol in a Viet Cong-held area, he was wounded after stepping on a punji stake trap.[12] He returned to Vietnam as a major from 1968 to 1970, where he first served as the executive officer for the Americal Division (23rd Infantry Division), then as the assistant chief of staff of operations for the Americal Division. In that post, he was charged with investigating a detailed letter by Tom Glen (a soldier from the 11th Light Infantry Brigade), which backed up rumored allegations of the My Lai Massacre. Powell wrote: "In direct refutation of this portrayal is the fact that relations between American soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent." Later, Powell's assessment would be described as Whitewashing the news of the massacre, and questions would continue to remain undisclosed to the public. In May 2004 Powell said to Larry King, "I mean, I was in a unit that was responsible for My Lai. I got there after My Lai happened. So, in war, these sorts of horrible things happen every now and again, but they are still to be deplored."[13]
Powell obtained an MBA from George Washington University in 1971 and then served a White House fellowship under President Richard Nixon.
In his autobiography My American Journey, Powell mentioned several officers he served under that inspired and mentored him. As a Lieutenant Colonel serving in South Korea, for example, Powell was very close to General Henry "Gunfighter" Emerson. Powell said he regarded this man as one of the most caring officers he ever served under. Emerson reputedly had a somewhat eccentric personality. For example, he insisted his troops train only at night and made them repeatedly watch the television film Brian's Song to promote racial harmony. Powell always professed, however, that what set Emerson apart was his great love of his soldiers and concern for their welfare.
In the early 1980s, Powell served at Fort Carson, Colorado. It was there that he had a major clash with General John Hudachek, his commander. Hudachek said in an efficiency evaluation that Powell was a poor leader who should not be promoted. Powell's rising military career was unhindered by Hudachek's evaluation report. After he left Fort Carson, Powell became senior military assistant to Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, whom he assisted during the 1983 invasion of Grenada and the 1986 airstrike on Libya.
In 1986, he took over the command of V Corps in Frankfurt, Germany, from Robert Lewis "Sam" Wetzel. In 1989, prior to being named Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Powell served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command headquartered at Fort McPherson, Georgia.
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240, just put up a link to Wiki. ;D
I'd say he was good in the military, just don't call him a Ranger.
* Combat Infantryman Badge
* Expert Infantryman Badge
* Ranger Tab
* Parachutist Badge
* Pathfinder Badge
* Air Assault Badge
* Presidential Service Badge
* Secretary of Defense Identification Badge
* Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge
* Army Staff Identification Badge
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[edit] Military career
While at City College, Powell joined the Reserve Officers' Training Corps and later described it as one of the happiest experiences of his life; finding something he loved and could do well, he felt he had "found himself." Cadet Powell joined the Pershing Rifles, the ROTC fraternal organization and drill team started by Gen. John Pershing. Even after Powell became a General, he still kept on his desk a pen set he had won for a drill team competition. After graduating from City College in June 1958, he was granted a commission as an Army Second Lieutenant.[10] Powell was a professional soldier for 35 years, during which time he held a variety of command and staff positions and rose to the rank of General.[11]
While serving with the Third Armored Division in Germany as a Lieutenant, he met Elvis Presley, then serving in that unit. During the Vietnam War, Powell was a captain, serving as a South Vietnamese Army advisor from 1962 to 1963. While on patrol in a Viet Cong-held area, he was wounded after stepping on a punji stake trap.[12] He returned to Vietnam as a major from 1968 to 1970, where he first served as the executive officer for the Americal Division (23rd Infantry Division), then as the assistant chief of staff of operations for the Americal Division. In that post, he was charged with investigating a detailed letter by Tom Glen (a soldier from the 11th Light Infantry Brigade), which backed up rumored allegations of the My Lai Massacre. Powell wrote: "In direct refutation of this portrayal is the fact that relations between American soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent." Later, Powell's assessment would be described as Whitewashing the news of the massacre, and questions would continue to remain undisclosed to the public. In May 2004 Powell said to Larry King, "I mean, I was in a unit that was responsible for My Lai. I got there after My Lai happened. So, in war, these sorts of horrible things happen every now and again, but they are still to be deplored."[13]
Powell obtained an MBA from George Washington University in 1971 and then served a White House fellowship under President Richard Nixon.
In his autobiography My American Journey, Powell mentioned several officers he served under that inspired and mentored him. As a Lieutenant Colonel serving in South Korea, for example, Powell was very close to General Henry "Gunfighter" Emerson. Powell said he regarded this man as one of the most caring officers he ever served under. Emerson reputedly had a somewhat eccentric personality. For example, he insisted his troops train only at night and made them repeatedly watch the television film Brian's Song to promote racial harmony. Powell always professed, however, that what set Emerson apart was his great love of his soldiers and concern for their welfare.
In the early 1980s, Powell served at Fort Carson, Colorado. It was there that he had a major clash with General John Hudachek, his commander. Hudachek said in an efficiency evaluation that Powell was a poor leader who should not be promoted. Powell's rising military career was unhindered by Hudachek's evaluation report. After he left Fort Carson, Powell became senior military assistant to Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, whom he assisted during the 1983 invasion of Grenada and the 1986 airstrike on Libya.
In 1986, he took over the command of V Corps in Frankfurt, Germany, from Robert Lewis "Sam" Wetzel. In 1989, prior to being named Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Powell served as the Commander in Chief, Forces Command headquartered at Fort McPherson, Georgia.
What a surprise.. I was thinking of how Powell was never really a conservative and you showed up!!!! Go figure!!! ;D
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During the Vietnam War, Powell was a captain, serving as a South Vietnamese Army advisor from 1962 to 1963. While on patrol in a Viet Cong-held area, he was wounded after stepping on a punji stake trap
Quite a record of combat experience indeed!!! ;D
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What a surprise.. I was thinking of how Powell was never really a conservative and you showed up!!!! Go figure!!! ;D
I was just learning Russian. I figure now that Obama's in office, it's a 60/40 chance they take us over before China does.
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Quite a record of combat experience indeed!!! ;D
you're 25 years old and you did 4 years in the military?
This man devoted his life to the military. Agree with his political stance, or disagee.
Disrespecting his record is unAmerican
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I was just learning Russian. I figure now that Obama's in office, it's a 60/40 chance they take us over before China does.
Previet komrad rob.. I myself speak quite a bit of russian. Guess I'm all set then.
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you're 25 years old and you did 4 years in the military?
This man devoted his life to the military. Agree with his political stance, or disagee.
Disrespecting his record is unAmerican
I wasn't.. I merely pointed out that he has a staff officer mentality instead of a combat officers'.
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I wasn't.. I merely pointed out that he has a staff officer mentality instead of a combat officers'.
Are you saying that he is the type to go to Ranger School because he had to do it to further his career? ;D
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Are you saying that he is the type to go to Ranger School because he had to do it to further his career? ;D
I wouldn't dare. That would be..
UNAMERICAN!!!!! dun dun dun DUNNNNN!!!!!!
;D
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Quite a record of combat experience indeed!!! ;D
and that's your answer to why he's not a loyal republican, that's what you provided when asked why he's not.... Amazing argument douchbag.
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Are you saying that he is the type to go to Ranger School because he had to do it to further his career? ;D
cap, this is the reason Brix listed for him not being a loyal republican, I'm sure you smell bullshit in that lol too.
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and that's your answer to why he's not a loyal republican, that's what you provided when asked why he's not.... Amazing argument douchbag.
Dude I know you can't be that stupid. Obviously that's not the main reason but it's ONE reason he doesn't impress me. He's no more accomplished than quite a few prominent Generals however he would be just another name if he weren't black. Like Hagel he has distanced himself from conservatism.
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maybe Brix just doesn't love America then?
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maybe Brix just doesn't love America then?
That's funny coming from you, 240.
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Google the "Americal Div"...thay had the worst record in Vietnam and were the least disciplined. Powell may be a Republican...certainly not a Conservative. He served honorably, was a combat vet and did his job well. He supported Obama...whatever.
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Google the "Americal Div"...thay had the worst record in Vietnam and were the least disciplined. Powell may be a Republican...certainly not a Conservative. He served honorably, was a combat vet and did his job well. He supported Obama...whatever.
As usual, HH6 slams it home.
Disagree with Powell's opinions or think he is a douchebag in general - but no need to piss on his military record.
Just as Obama said about McCain - Powell's served his country bravely.
McCain stood up for Kerry when the prick Bush tried to put Kerrys legacy in vietnam to shame.
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Neo-Conservatism is dead
NT
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As usual, HH6 slams it home.
Disagree with Powell's opinions or think he is a douchebag in general - but no need to piss on his military record.
Just as Obama said about McCain - Powell's served his country bravely.
McCain stood up for Kerry when the prick Bush tried to put Kerrys legacy in vietnam to shame.
I didn't piss on his record. I only pointed out that it's not any more impressive than a lot of other Generals and I'm not going to do what all these idiots on here do and pretend that he's conservative and if he gets selected for Obongos staff that there is anything bipartisan or unifying about him.
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Dude I know you can't be that stupid. Obviously that's not the main reason but it's ONE reason he doesn't impress me. He's no more accomplished than quite a few prominent Generals however he would be just another name if he weren't black. Like Hagel he has distanced himself from conservatism.
It's the reason you gave when I asked why he wasn't a real republican.