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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Hugo Chavez on November 06, 2008, 01:14:49 PM
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I'm shocked at how hard he goes at Palin. He didn't just stop with the minor stuff, toward the end he goes into talking about "tantrums" Palin started having. Carl just locked the door between Palin and Washington.
I also can't help but notice, watch Carl, dude is kinda a geek.
And the most important part of this interview that is the part where it looks to be revealed that neocon and head of PNAC, Randy Scheunemann, sabotaged the McCain campaign!!!! This is very significant. Since the 2006 elections, neocons have been moving to reinvent themselves with the same policies different names. That Randy moved to sabotage the campaign suggests these guys are banking on Obama. It does not mean Obama is on board as I've said before, there are plenty of ways to control the factors for desired outcome. I suggest that the moves "they" want to make would be opposed more by the people under McCain so they see the new public support structure behind Obama as a must and they may have very well intentionally undermined McCain's chances.
More to come if people are interested in what needs to happen to block these psychos.
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Yikes. Well, I guess it's not much worse than Bush. And, hey, I bet this wouldn't stop anyone from doing her.
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In some ways I feel bad for her, that is a huge jump to try and step up. I don't think it's right to toss her under the bus for all this.
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So now you watch FOX news and listen to Rush? There's hope for you yet ;D!
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In some ways I feel bad for her, that is a huge jump to try and step up. I don't think it's right to toss her under the bus for all this.
Well, typical Republicunt behavior and all that.
But I think it probably has more to do with having a star that might not toe the line.She's probably somewhat difficult to work with and too much of a question mark on top of that. They probably feel it's better to extinguish her as fast as possible.
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I'm shocked at how hard he goes at Palin. He didn't just stop with the minor stuff, toward the end he goes into talking about "tantrums" Palin started having. Carl just locked the door between Palin and Washington.
McCain will forever be a piece of shit for allowing that farce to continue and possibly endangering our Country.
"Country First"......my ass. >:(
NT
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And the most important part of this interview that is the part where it looks to be revealed that neocon and head of PNAC, Randy Scheunemann, sabotaged the McCain campaign!!!! This is very significant. Since the 2006 elections, neocons have been moving to reinvent themselves with the same policies different names. That Randy moved to sabotage the campaign suggests these guys are banking on Obama. It does not mean Obama is on board as I've said before, there are plenty of ways to control the factors for desired outcome. I suggest that the moves "they" want to make would be opposed more by the people under McCain so they see the new public support structure behind Obama as a must and they may have very well intentionally undermined McCain's chances.
See this is why I hesitate to jump on the Obamination Train. You have 8 years of a frightening regime and it is predictable the people if given a choice with choose anything but what they had. Obama professes "Change", but what change. Not being "right winged" here, but he did flip flop a bit (many do during an election I know).
Okay, here is my point. Take a little paranoia and walk with me. Lets say you wanted to radically change the political landscape here in America. I know who would want to do that (La Raza, Muslim Fundamentalists, Socialists, "True Believers (AKA those that believe they are going to save this country and any price is worth it)"). What would you do? Well here is what I would do. Create NGO's Non Governmental Groups (think tanks, PR tanks etc) and back my boys on both sides. I would work behind closed doors. Think about this.
You are a corporation. Lets say you make widgets, now when republicans are in, you do a good business, when Democrats are in they usually regulate your product heavily. So every 4 to 8 years you have to adjust. Now lets say you are a billioniare. Do you keep adjusting? Or do you create NGOs and back players on both sides so your bases are covered?
Think about it. Most people look at our 200+ year old political system the say way people did when it was created. Big players have evolved. I reserve judgment on Obama till I see if her restores many of the provisions in the Constitution.
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You are a corporation. Lets say you make widgets, now when republicans are in, you do a good business, when Democrats are in they usually regulate your product heavily. So every 4 to 8 years you have to adjust. Now lets say you are a billioniare. Do you keep adjusting? Or do you create NGOs and back players on both sides so your bases are covered?
excellent analogy.
The first thing that should be attacked is blind faith in Obama. People with any kind of religious fervor should be slapped and set straigt. Not with anger, but with care. We need to focus on the moves of certain people from the recently disbanded neoconservatives and their allies. We need to be able to look at Obama and say, you know what, I don't like that and I'm not going to support that as well as support ideas that are good.
THE BIGGEST THING WE MUST NOT DO IS GIVE THE MEDIA A PASS WHEN THEY FAIL AS THEY DID IN THE LEADUP TO THE IRAQ WAR. THERE IS A VERY GOOD CHANCE THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO DO THE SAME THING IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER FOR A DESIRED OUTCOME. we need to be able to come unglued on the media, even our favorite media source and say if you go this route, you will lose me forever. guard againt the news as a propaganda outlet. It may not only be from the whitehouse, it may be from these clowns trying to force an outcome by the whitehouse, time will tell what direction it comes from.