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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: suckmymuscle on November 12, 2008, 06:43:32 AM
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Hamburger meat. This is a tip from your mod. Why is it so good for packing on the pounds? Because it contains a pre-digested high quality protein that is easy for the body to absorb, as well as ample calories. Another bonus is that it is cheap. As I mentioned in one of my posts recently, calories are what really matters for growth, and not so much protein.
Grinding the meat to turn it into hamburger meat makes it semi-digested, and eliminates a lot of the trouble your stomach would have to dissolve the fibrous tissue of regular meat. This combined with the high fat content provides your body with the best source of relatively cheap and easily absorbed high quality protein and calories for gains. My best gains were on hamburger meat eaten everyday. You guys should give it a shot.
SUCKMYMUSCE
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1 lb. a day my friend....with alittle A-1 or country bobs
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gallon of milk!
and maybe some maximus ;D...damn that stuff is good!
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gallon of milk!
and maybe some maximus ;D...damn that stuff is good!
Burger meat is the single best food for mass for several reasons:
1. It's cheap.
2. It contains high quality protein that is pre-digested for maximum absorption.
3. It provides ample calories for protein-sparring and muscle growth.
I said burger meat is the best food for mass, not the only one. There are several other great foods for mas, like whole eggs scrambled with a little extra virgin olive oil. Burger meat is better than regular red meat because the meat is grinded which makes it easier for your body to digest and assimilate it.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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i'm a fan of ground beef and ground turkey... filling, cheap, and healthy
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Remember, you can reduce the fat content in ground beef by rinsing it in hot water. It must be at least 150 degrees to be effective.
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The fat content in hamburger meat can easily be reduced by using low fat cuts.
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The fat content in hamburger meat can easily be reduced by using low fat cuts.
Yes but "suckmymuscle" makes a point of both the high fat count and calories as something positive and doesnt approve of low fat cuts.
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Yes but "suckmymuscle" makes a point of both the high fat count and calories as something positive and doesnt approve of low fat cuts.
I don't approve of low fat cuts for mass gains, no. Eating chicken or turkey breasts or ultra-lean red meat is not ideal for mass. Number one for mass are calories, and not protein. Eating 500 grams of protein a day won't help you put on muscle if it gets all converted into glucose via gluconeogenesis because despite your huge protein intake you are still eating below your caloric need for maintenance.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Remember, you can reduce the fat content in ground beef by rinsing it in hot water. It must be at least 150 degrees to be effective.
i usually do this but ive always used c0old water...ive never heard about the hot
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Hamburger meat. This is a tip from your mod. Why is it so good for packing on the pounds? Because it contains a pre-digested high quality protein that is easy for the body to absorb, as well as ample calories. Another bonus is that it is cheap. As I mentioned in one of my posts recently, calories are what really matters for growth, and not so much protein.
Grinding the meat to turn it into hamburger meat makes it semi-digested, and eliminates a lot of the trouble your stomach would have to dissolve the fibrous tissue of regular meat. This combined with the high fat content provides your body with the best source of relatively cheap and easily absorbed high quality protein and calories for gains. My best gains were on hamburger meat eaten everyday. You guys should give it a shot.
SUCKMYMUSCE
Are you a doctor or competitor? Just curious as to why we should listen to you about nutrition. Not trying to start a fight but can we hear your credentials and see a few pics? :)
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gallon of milk!
and maybe some maximus ;D...damn that stuff is good!
I'm with wicked 100%. Milk is hands down the cheapest and all around best bulking "food." Red meat runs a close second, but remember that meat has zero carbs, whereas milk has carbs, fat (depending on which kind you drink), and protein--it has it all. You wanna get big...drink milk, and lots of it.
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Nobody said it's ideal. You can get a lot of calories from lots of sources other than the fat of burgers. Same with protein, nobody but you mentioned that either so I don't even know why you're bringing it up.
Sure, you can get calories and protein from several other sources. So what? What's your point? Hamburger meat is a practical source of both of them, the protein is easily absorvable and it is also cheap. That's what makes it the best in my opinion.
ps. you "forgot" to reply to my other post (just as you forget to respond to posts all over the Nutrition board from numerous users)
Wrong. It's good that you put that on quotes because I didn't forget anything. I don't have an obligation to respond to any of your posts, an assumption you seem to be making all the time. I will respond to whatever posts I feel like, as any other poster in this board.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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whey is cheaper, better amino acid profile, easier to digest, and more anabolic. bulk olive oil is cheaper a better source of fat easier to consume and more anabolic.
:)
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cottage cheese
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i love ground beef, good stuff, but in no way is it better than the leaner meats.
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whey is cheaper, better amino acid profile, easier to digest, and more anabolic. bulk olive oil is cheaper a better source of fat easier to consume and more anabolic.
:)
Nice try. The unsaturated fats of olive oil do not raise testosterone as well as the saturated fats in beef. As for whey protein, it is more expensive pound-per-pound than hamburger and it does not give the same anabolic boost as beef because whey protein gets in your bloodstream fast and is also out of your system fast. Furthermore, if you are arguing that the combo of olive oil and whey protein is better, observe that I said that hamburger meat is the single best food for mass, with whole eggs a close second. Also, this is my opinion of years working out and I am simply reporting my personal experiences. I never claimed that is a scientific fact that hamburger meat is the best food for mass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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i love ground beef, good stuff, but in no way is it better than the leaner meats.
For mass, yes it is. You won't get big by eating truckloads of protein and little calories. Regular red meat and whole eggs are almost conditione sine qua non for packing on the muscle.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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i usually do this but ive always used c0old water...ive never heard about the hot
Cold water would do nothing. Actually, it would harden the fat to the meat defeating the purpose.
http://www.beefnutrition.org/uDocs/Reducing%20Fat%20in%20Cooked%20Ground%20Beef.pdf
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QuakerOats been lifting weights for what, 20 years? I don't think he needs to be lectured on the importance of calories. Let's try to stick to the subject here.
BTW there seems to be several posts missing that I made earlier? I'll have the REAL moderators look into it, looks like we might have a loose cannon here!
hahaha stfu rectum kisser.
best thing: buy a meat grinder and make your own with lean sirloin.
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I'd say eggs.
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I think we've established that there's lots of far better sources for mass than burgers. EOD.
Maybe certain individuals are just trying to justify their eating habits to themselves under the guise of mass? :D
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Nice try. The unsaturated fats of olive oil do not raise testosterone as well as the saturated fats in beef. As for whey protein, it is more expensive pound-per-pound than hamburger and it does not give the same anabolic boost as beef because whey protein gets in your bloodstream fast and is also out of your system fast. Furthermore, if you are arguing that the combo of olive oil and whey protein is better, observe that I said that hamburger meat is the single best food for mass, with whole eggs a close second. Also, this is my opinion of years working out and I am simply reporting my personal experiences. I never claimed that is a scientific fact that hamburger meat is the best food for mass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
um no monounsaturated fats raise testosterone as well if not better than saturated fats and are more anabolic through other mechniasms as well as the fact theat they promote innsulin sensitivity, while saturated fats promote desensitivity. grams of protein for grams of protein whey is cheaper. fact. whey is also more anabolic than beef. time and time again studies prove that whey protein results in more growth, gram for gram, than any other source of protein.
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Single greatest food = Red meat ;D
Whey is great and eggs are great too, but nothing fills you up and fills your muscles out like a nice juicy piece of red meat
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best thing: buy a meat grinder and make your own with lean sirloin.
great idea alex thank u-do u advise any particular ones?
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great discusssion going on here-im enjoying it-this is how we learn new things-we talk and debate and question-the board seems to more lively than usual
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Doritos put alot of mass on me, but not in a good way.
Raw whole eggs are quick and easy imo.
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(http://www.ariva.de/BypassBurger_a95195)
On a side note, i always buy tartare instead of ground beef or let the meat be grounded from steak. A little pricey, but way better quality than the crap you get for standard.
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Let's put it this way.......
I'd rather eat salmon everday than ground beef everyday and I'd probably be a lot healthier for it. Ground beef is full of shit these days if you buy it in the typical American grocery store. Unless you're eating it raw or it's grass fed I'd stay away from grocery store ground beef.
Raw eggs, raw milk, and salmon are some of the best bodybuilding foods as far as protein sources. And you've gotta be retarded to think ground beef is "high" in calories. It's not. Hence why a bodybuilder needs calories from other types of food.
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Single greatest food = Red meat ;D
Whey is great and eggs are great too, but nothing fills you up and fills your muscles out like a nice juicy piece of red meat
Exactly. And burgers take that to a whole other level because the grinding of the meat to turn it into hamburger makes the protein more easily digested and absorbed. My best gains were by eating burger meat every day.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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What's Really in Your Fast Food?
A study released today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences contains controversial claims about menu items served at McDonald's, Wendy's and Burger King.
In an interview, Jahren, who is a geobiologist and professor at the University of Hawaii, even suggested that the nitrogen isotopic signatures found in meat products were so high that they were consistent with environments where animals had consumed their own waste.
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Read the entire article here.
http://health.msn.com/nutrition/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100220333>1=31036
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What's Really in Your Fast Food?
A study released today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences contains controversial claims about menu items served at McDonald's, Wendy's and Burger King.
In an interview, Jahren, who is a geobiologist and professor at the University of Hawaii, even suggested that the nitrogen isotopic signatures found in meat products were so high that they were consistent with environments where animals had consumed their own waste.
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Read the entire article here.
http://health.msn.com/nutrition/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100220333>1=31036
And you think the crap you buy in the grocery store is any better? Hell no. The only way to guarantee your ground beef is solid is to buy 100% grass fed. U.S. Wellness Meats is a great place to start.
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My vote would be whole eggs ;)
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And you think the crap you buy in the grocery store is any better? Hell no. The only way to guarantee your ground beef is solid is to buy 100% grass fed. U.S. Wellness Meats is a great place to start.
quoted for truth.
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Single greatest food = Red meat ;D
Whey is great and eggs are great too, but nothing fills you up and fills your muscles out like a nice juicy piece of red meat
x2 ;)
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On a side note, i always buy tartare instead of ground beef or let the meat be grounded from steak. A little pricey, but way better quality than the crap you get for standard.
Haha, I do the exact same thing if I make my own chilli or burgers at home. Tastes better too!
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Whole Eggs and Whole Milk
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My vote would have to be milk first and burger meat a very close second - I have never failed to grow on either so either one is fine in my book.
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Whole Eggs and Whole Milk
why whole milk? You get enough fat from the whole eggs i would think
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peanut butter sandwich
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horse meat
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peanut butter sandwich
I eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich everyday.
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I eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich everyday.
thats good
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Be careful with your cholesterol! A gym buddy just died on monday night from a heart atack at johns hopkins hospital. About ten days ago he got sick at work and "toughed it out".He was having a heart attack and didn't know it. If you saw him in the gym you would never guess he had 3 blocked arteries. Dude was ripped and natural so don't start that bullshit. 47 years old. WATCH the red meat!!!!!!
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breastmilk.
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breastmilk.
;D
an old favorite
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You hear that, people?! Hamburger meat! Now go run to your local McDonald's! :D
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You hear that, people?! Hamburger meat! Now go run to your local McDonald's! :D
I eat mc'd's 3-4 times a week while bulking, can't beat it for the cost to calorie ratio.
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Be careful with your cholesterol! A gym buddy just died on monday night from a heart atack at johns hopkins hospital. About ten days ago he got sick at work and "toughed it out".He was having a heart attack and didn't know it. If you saw him in the gym you would never guess he had 3 blocked arteries. Dude was ripped and natural so don't start that bullshit. 47 years old. WATCH the red meat!!!!!!
red meat doesnt cause poor cholestrol numbers simple sugars and basic overeating do. red meat and dietary cholestrol are healthy things to eat.
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I don't approve of low fat cuts for mass gains, no. Eating chicken or turkey breasts or ultra-lean red meat is not ideal for mass. Number one for mass are calories, and not protein. Eating 500 grams of protein a day won't help you put on muscle if it gets all converted into glucose via gluconeogenesis because despite your huge protein intake you are still eating below your caloric need for maintenance.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
good advice, thank you.
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I would go with beef or milk.
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I would go with beef or milk.
i'm with chris on this one.. MILK!
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Q: I'm sick of chicken and tuna. Do you have any other recommendations for a low fat protein source?
A: In terms of nutritional value, lean cuts of red meat more than match the more traditional bodybuilding protein foods such as chicken breasts and tuna.
For example, a 3-ounce chicken breast contains 3-grams of fat, while 3-ounces of round or eye-fillet steak contains 4.2-grams. Lean ground beef contains 5-grams of fat per 100-grams. Lean roast beef contains just 3-grams of fat per 3-ounce slice. Some of the fat contained in lean beef will actually help you lose fat and build muscle.
Cooked beef fat contains CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid), a nutrient shown to enhance body composition. Lean beef also contains much more iron and other trace elements than chicken or tuna.
Lean beef is also higher in B-group vitamins, these vitamins are essential to energy production. On every occasion that I’ve recommended a bodybuilder to increase his/her red meat intake, the athlete has seen and felt the difference in their physique. So, beef up!
Dr. Paul Cribb Ph.D. CSCS.
AST Director of Research
http://www.ast-ss.com/dev/qa_search/full_text.asp?ID=3484
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hahaha stfu rectum kisser.
best thing: buy a meat grinder and make your own with lean sirloin.
Most supermarkets sell ground sirloin which is 93% lean. After cooking you strain off the grease that cooked out of it and it's basically 97% lean. You can also buy from local foodservice 95% lean ground beef. Usually comes in 10lb tubes or by the case for cheaper price/lb ...60 lb case. If you have a freezer this is the way to go.
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so if i buy a bunch of ground beef? and say use pasta sauce with no noodles and then drink a bunch of chocolate milk a day .. then work in my trade
im guessing my diet isnt so great for ... well .. anything