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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: strength on November 12, 2008, 08:28:49 AM
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This is an 8 week check up. ( I am on TRT)
1 week before they drew blood i shot 100mgs cyp/200 mg EQ. I figured i wanted to see what effect the EQ had on my test levels.
Free T- 8.11 (.95-4.30)
TotalT- 1800 (240-1048)
Prolactin- 6.9 (<18)
Estrogen- 20
Liver values
ALT- 69
LST- 34
PSA- .04
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oops wrong forum,
can a mod move this to AAS?
Already done - I'm that good. ;D
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wholy badass rimmy batman!
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wholy badass rimmy batman!
BLAM!
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I figured i wanted to see what effect the EQ had on my test levels.
How do you figure you could tell when you shot T at the same time? I'm not sure what your thought process is here.
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let me clarify.
I know what my range should be with just the test, so i wanted to see if the EQ would elevate it at all.
sorry for the confusion.
I should be around 1100
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let me clarify.
I know what my range should be with just the test, so i wanted to see if the EQ would elevate it at all.
sorry for the confusion.
I should be around 1100
So in your opinion the EQ elevated your testosterone by that much, by 700 points? You sure the EQ is what it claims?
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Yeah its EQ, ;)
I am not sure what to make of it, but i was def. intrigued by the results. I know chemically it is very similar to test. Is there a chemist on the board who has an opinion?
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Already done - I'm that good. ;D
Lately, you've been very slack. >:(
DIV
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Lately, you've been very slack. >:(
DIV
I'm hit or miss...
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So in your opinion the EQ elevated your testosterone by that much, by 700 points? You sure the EQ is what it claims?
could lower shgb be the cause ?
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Shit, I thought your free test might be a little high but not THAT high... weird. I wonder if it just took a while to metabolize that prop... or maybe it was the EQ... weird... I could have just been way off too lol :p
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Shit, I thought your free test might be a little high but not THAT high... weird. I wonder if it just took a while to metabolize that prop... or maybe it was the EQ... weird... I could have just been way off too lol :p
Prop???
i didnt take any prop
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could lower shgb be the cause ?
I don't think so (could increase free test though, not the total). Either the EQ contains test, the EQ is cross-reacting with test on the assay or previous injections had accumulated to cause that level.
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I should be around 1100
Why do you believe this? Even if you were steady at 1100 for a few tests before, there are a lot of factors that could cause a change in your results other than the EQ.
Also, why do you believe the EQ would either show up as or influence the T level? I would have thought it would be acting on its own and not show up on a testosterone lab.
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Also, why do you believe the EQ would either show up as or influence the T level? I would have thought it would be acting on its own and not show up on a testosterone lab.
See post 3 and 4 in particular
http://www.bodyofscience.com/forum/showthread.php?p=26688
Then there's the cross reaction thing. Don't know if it's possible for boldenone to show up as test.
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See post 3 and 4 in particular
http://www.bodyofscience.com/forum/showthread.php?p=26688
Then there's the cross reaction thing. Don't know if it's possible for boldenone to show up as test.
it doesn't in horses. Its not uncommon to take a gelding (a castrated male who should have very low test levels) and administer both testosterone and equipoise to enhance appearance or performance. A little test can be gotten by with on the testing because of the reference ranges for testosterone and epitestosterone. Too much and you'll get a positive test. Also, equipoise is tested for seperately. I'm not aware of any cross reactivity.
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See post 3 and 4 in particular
http://www.bodyofscience.com/forum/showthread.php?p=26688
Then there's the cross reaction thing. Don't know if it's possible for boldenone to show up as test.
Those guys seem confused on this point too. The guy reports that Big Cat says yes, Llewellen says no. Looks like an interesting forum at any rate. Thanks for the link Van.
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Those guys seem confused on this point too. The guy reports that Big Cat says yes, Llewellen says no. Looks like an interesting forum at any rate. Thanks for the link Van.
Alot of people are suspicious of Llewellyn, but he's seems fair when comparing all the UG's.
DIV
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I maybe totally off here but please correct me or make comment as Id like to learn if I am.
I thought normal test level range between 700 – 1100.
So surely if you shot 100mg of test cyp the week before along with ones natural production you would have elevation way over a normal count. I this case 1800. Thought a healthy male produced in the region of 7mg-11mg test per day?
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Alot of people are suspicious of Llewellyn, but he's seems fair when comparing all the UG's.
DIV
Suspicious as far as what? Ive always liked Bill.
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I maybe totally off here but please correct me or make comment as Id like to learn if I am.
I thought normal test level range between 700 – 1100.
About 200-300 to 800-1000 depending on the lab.
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Suspicious as far as what? Ive always liked Bill.
I'd like to know about these "suspicions" as well. Bill is about the most honest mother fucker in this industry. Everyone else is concerned with selling fake and underdosed shit and scamming people. Bill is about the only person that wants to help people. He doesn't like the underground scene at all. He hates it.
I talk to him and his wife all the time and they do nothing but work their asses off. I've never seen a couple that works harder than those two. I resent that comment unless there's something to back it up.