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Title: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Army of One on November 12, 2008, 12:00:29 PM
I know its a bodybuilding board but can you imagine whats going on in lebron James's Genetics, thats probably the furthest out anyone ever jumped in an NBA game and at that weight....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/js6684/LBJ-Dunk-vs-Bucks.gif)
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Emmortal on November 12, 2008, 12:01:31 PM
Crazy to see that in a game.  Didn't Jordon jump from the free throw line?
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Army of One on November 12, 2008, 12:02:49 PM
Crazy to see that in a game.  Didn't Jordon jump from the free throw line?

Yeah, in a dunk contest, thats the furthest out Ive ever seen in an actual game though.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: m8 on November 12, 2008, 12:10:05 PM
That's not Obama.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: tommywishbone on November 12, 2008, 12:13:03 PM
Amazing!! But dude ain't 6'9" & 278 pounds.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Army of One on November 12, 2008, 12:17:26 PM
Amazing!! But dude ain't 6'9" & 278 pounds.

He was measured at that height and weight at start of the season (3 weeks ago)
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on November 12, 2008, 12:24:41 PM
Dude is flying.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: fathead on November 12, 2008, 12:26:19 PM
it's the extra bone in his ankle
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: 240 is Back on November 12, 2008, 12:27:22 PM
Cavs have him listed at 240.  But he looks jacked this season.  Maybe the fountain of GH flows thru Cleveland, or maybe he just discovered good nutrition.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Fury on November 12, 2008, 12:28:40 PM
I know its a bodybuilding board but can you imagine whats going on in lebron James's Genetics, thats probably the furthest out anyone ever jumped in an NBA game and at that weight....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/js6684/LBJ-Dunk-vs-Bucks.gif)

That is awesome.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: MAXX on November 12, 2008, 12:32:49 PM
he's jumping what,, 5 meters?

consider world record is over 9 meters it's not that impressive
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Big Bro on November 12, 2008, 12:36:25 PM
he's jumping what,, 5 meters?

consider world record is over 9 meters it's not that impressive
lol, you are a moron sir!
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: MAXX on November 12, 2008, 12:41:41 PM
lol, you are a moron sir!
why, because it's one of your bro's?


 ::)
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: QuakerOats on November 12, 2008, 12:47:01 PM
Amazing!! But dude ain't 6'9" & 278 pounds.
exactly, the guy is amazing but in reality, 6'6" 245-250 still very big.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Rami on November 12, 2008, 12:59:37 PM
Here is some real Free Throw line dunks.





Not in game. But better.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Camel Jockey on November 12, 2008, 01:05:10 PM
Lebron doesn't have MJ's will to dominate but in terms of skills he's only second to Kobe.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: QuakerOats on November 12, 2008, 01:06:04 PM
Lebron doesn't have MJ's will to dominate but in terms of skills he's only second to Kobe.
none of these guys today hold a candle to Jordan, Magic or Larry Bird, bunch of fucckin' wannabe's.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Necrosis on November 12, 2008, 01:11:58 PM
none of these guys today hold a candle to Jordan, Magic or Larry Bird, bunch of fucckin' wannabe's.

lebron is better the MJ was at the same age. He will be better overall then mj, the sport evolves man.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: QuakerOats on November 12, 2008, 01:13:04 PM
lebron is better the MJ was at the same age. He will be better overall then mj, the sport evolves man.
no he won't, i'll GAURANTEE you he won't, do you honestly think Lebron will end his career with 6 NBA titles and 6 MVP's?
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 12, 2008, 01:14:18 PM
people dont understand just how fucking incredible that is, try standing at the free throw line and imagine jumping from there and dunking it.

the top NBA dunkers could easily compete in the Olympics for long jump.
right there lebron jumped from 15 feet out, and at 15 feet his feet were still several feet off the ground.incredible

Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 12, 2008, 01:17:56 PM
no he won't, i'll GAURANTEE you he won't, do you honestly think Lebron will end his career with 6 NBA titles and 6 MVP's?
totally different eras man, back then there were usually only 4-5 teams that competed every year, and the same teams were good year after year. theres a reason nobody has repeated since 2002-the competition is WAY beyond what it was.

think of it this way. put '86 larry bird in the league today, he'd do well but probably not great. put Lebron or Kobe in the 80's league, and they would fuckin dominate. i mean the 80's celtics were a model of fundamentally sound basketball, but they were ALL WHITE for gods sake, they would simply get hurt by the top teams today.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Necrosis on November 12, 2008, 01:19:22 PM
no he won't, i'll GAURANTEE you he won't, do you honestly think Lebron will end his career with 6 NBA titles and 6 MVP's?

mvps and rings are not indicative of how good someone is solely, his team and a guy named scotty pippen helped out. Your team has to win to be considered for mvp,garnett was the best PF in the league for quite some time but never got recognition as such.

lebron will have multiple MVP's, the titles i dont know. He will put up better numbers then mj however.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: QuakerOats on November 12, 2008, 01:20:32 PM
mvps and rings are not indicative of how good someone is solely, his team and a guy named scotty pippen helped out. Your team has to win to be considered for mvp,garnett was the best PF in the league for quite some time but never got recognition as such.

lebron will have multiple MVP's, the titles i dont know. He will put up better numbers then mj however.
i don't think so, at the end of his career we'll see, Jordan averaged 37 fuccking points a game one year, Lebron will never do that.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 12, 2008, 01:26:58 PM
mvps and rings are not indicative of how good someone is solely, his team and a guy named scotty pippen helped out. Your team has to win to be considered for mvp,garnett was the best PF in the league for quite some time but never got recognition as such.
lebron will have multiple MVP's, the titles i dont know. He will put up better numbers then mj however.

thats because of that guy named TIM DUNCAN
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: QuakerOats on November 12, 2008, 01:28:46 PM
Jordan AVERAGED 30 points or over for the season 8 times in his career, i don't think Lebron will come close to that.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Camel Jockey on November 12, 2008, 01:28:52 PM
LeBron maybe be skilled but he can't come to the sheer will power and ingenuity of guys like MJ and Bird. I remember watching a Wizards game where a 41 year old MJ scored 51 points. That's insane.

Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: brudge on November 12, 2008, 01:29:01 PM
totally different eras man, back then there were usually only 4-5 teams that competed every year, and the same teams were good year after year. theres a reason nobody has repeated since 2002-the competition is WAY beyond what it was.

think of it this way. put '86 larry bird in the league today, he'd do well but probably not great. put Lebron or Kobe in the 80's league, and they would fuckin dominate. i mean the 80's celtics were a model of fundamentally sound basketball, but they were ALL WHITE for gods sake, they would simply get hurt by the top teams today.

Well said. Look at basketball games from the 40's and 50's. I know that's a lot longer ago, but that shows drastically how the game has evolved. Put most guys from today in a game from the 80's and they would dominate.  The same goes for every sport. Man evolves, and so does equipment when it comes to other sports.

And for those that are trying to compare long jump to basketball...give your head a shake...apples and oranges. No one gives a fuck if they could win a long jump competition in the olympics. They are holding onto a ball with people trying to stop them, and carrying the ball through the air and putting it through a hoop, how can you compare that to long jump?

Retards
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 12, 2008, 01:32:05 PM
the best dunker ever is this guy named James White, a college star that didnt quite make it in the nba.

he can dunk from the free throw line, TWO-HANDED. not only that but he can do a BETWEEN THE LEGS dunk from the fuckin free throw line. he tops everybody
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Necrosis on November 12, 2008, 01:32:13 PM
thats because of that guy named TIM DUNCAN

right because duncan team was better, garnett is the better player.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 12, 2008, 01:36:27 PM
right because duncan team was better, garnett is the better player.
wrong. how bout you compare their comapre their career individual playoff stats? :)
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 12, 2008, 01:39:50 PM
james white between the legs dunk from the free throw line


james white compilation
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: jaejonna on November 12, 2008, 01:47:02 PM
jordan's game evolved as his career went on...he became a post up shotter and his 3 point became better..... Lebron James though is a freek of nature...
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Rearden Metal on November 12, 2008, 01:48:00 PM
Cavs have him listed at 240.  But he looks jacked this season.  Maybe the fountain of GH flows thru Cleveland, or maybe he just discovered good nutrition.

Or maybe....he's still a kid growing up.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: onlyme on November 12, 2008, 01:58:53 PM
Here is some real Free Throw line dunks.





Not in game. But better.

It is easier to do that without dribbling
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: sculpture on November 12, 2008, 02:21:19 PM
I'm not particularly a fan of "king" james as i believe often he's guilty of gross travelling that just seems to go unnoticed by nba officials but i have to say that i believe he will be able to put up similar scoring numbers to MJ. Hes just reeled off 3 games of 41 pts in a row and often explodes for 50 plus points.

Saying that jordan had 9 games in a row at 40 + points one season (87 or 88) i think and was dropping 60+ like it was no ones business but thats when the bulls were literally a one man show.

Offensively mj is unmatched in terms of jump shots, dunks, and a repetoire of great post up moves. His all round offense is non pareil - kobe is closest to anything that resembles MJ. Lebron is too much slash and dunk offense but may develop his jumper later on as did MJ and Kobe.

What goes unnoticed about Lebron that often gets overshadowed by the points he throws up is his all round game - he's averaging 8 rebounds and 6.5 assists so far this season which is oscar robertson esque.

As for that dunk in particular, clyde drexler did a similar one in his rookie year against the lakers. Clyde seems to hang more and be higher as he bends his legs back.

Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Bear on November 12, 2008, 02:30:53 PM
he's jumping what,, 5 meters?

consider world record is over 9 meters it's not that impressive

Haha, did Powell jump about 4 meters in the air too? Have you ever seen how high a basketball hoop is? I'm 6'3" and I can only just touch the thing jumping from directly under it!
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: ManBearPig... on November 12, 2008, 02:32:31 PM
jordan travelled all the time.  who cares?  i like lebron cuz he's not a ghetto thug with wasted potential (see: allen iverson).  he's still a kid and has time to get better, provided he stays healthy.   also, still seems to have the fighting spirit that we don't see that often in sports anymore.  it was a life or death mission for him to win the gold in china after getting pwned in 04.

will he be better than jordan, the greatest athlete on the planet of all time?  i don't know but he's got another 10 or so seasons to show us.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Necrosis on November 12, 2008, 02:34:57 PM
jordan travelled all the time.  who cares?  i like lebron cuz he's not a ghetto thug with wasted potential (see: allen iverson).  he's still a kid and has time to get better, provided he stays healthy.   also, still seems to have the fighting spirit that we don't see that often in sports anymore.  it was a life or death mission for him to win the gold in china after getting pwned in 04.

will he be better than jordan, the greatest athlete on the planet of all time?  i don't know but he's got another 10 or so seasons to show us.

wha allen iverson is wasted potential? mvp,first team all nba, scoring titles. lol


john matrix

garnett has similar numbers, slightly better rebounding and much better assist avg.. I also beleive he is better on the ball then duncan and is more versatile. Well its obvious he is better on the ball.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: YoungBlood on November 12, 2008, 02:40:37 PM
james white between the legs dunk from the free throw line


james white compilation



Pretty cool stuff.

I'm white....I can't do that shit. :'(
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: sculpture on November 12, 2008, 02:49:26 PM
wha allen iverson is wasted potential? mvp,first team all nba, scoring titles. lol

john matrix

garnett has similar numbers, slightly better rebounding and much better assist avg.. I also beleive he is better on the ball then duncan and is more versatile. Well its obvious he is better on the ball.

Yeah i noticed that bullshit in the post too.

Iverson done more with 6'1" than anyone else in the league ever.

Wasted potential?

If any thing he's pushed his potential to the limit, the problem is he's been surrounded by a distinct lack of talent his career but still managed to get to the finals.

As for comparing jordans travelling with lebron - mj never took 4 steps in some plays like lebron

Oh and by the way, MJ played in an era where defence actually existed, unlike todays game where if you so much sneeze at the guy you pick up a foul.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Wiggs on November 12, 2008, 03:03:21 PM
Lebron is 6'8 240.  Not 6'9 278.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: El_Pajero on November 12, 2008, 03:07:40 PM
wow he can jump far, so what, big fucking deal  ::)
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: The GodFather on November 12, 2008, 03:08:48 PM
Athlete all the way Athlete. ;D
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Big Bro on November 12, 2008, 03:13:52 PM
why, because it's one of your bro's?


 ::)
lol, im not a bro.
My original nickname was big bastard, but it was apparently to explicit for the getbig mods.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: kevcat on November 12, 2008, 03:15:19 PM
jordan travelled all the time.  who cares?  i like lebron cuz he's not a ghetto thug with wasted potential (see: allen iverson).  he's still a kid and has time to get better, provided he stays healthy.   also, still seems to have the fighting spirit that we don't see that often in sports anymore.  it was a life or death mission for him to win the gold in china after getting pwned in 04.

will he be better than jordan, the greatest athlete on the planet of all time?  i don't know but he's got another 10 or so seasons to show us.

What makes a basketball player the best athletes in the world??
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on November 12, 2008, 03:47:48 PM
NBA sucks ::) ::)
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Jeffro on November 12, 2008, 05:42:42 PM
lol, im not a bro.
My original nickname was big bastard, but it was apparently to explicit for the getbig mods.

Damn "Big Bro," with a name like that, you must be huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: mame09 on November 12, 2008, 06:52:20 PM
i remember watching mj as a kid. he use to play for his life in every match.

lebron james i dont know much about him because im not really into basketball anymore it got boring. but i highly doubt he will be classed with muhammed ali and jordan as the best athletes ever
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 12, 2008, 06:55:35 PM
i remember watching mj as a kid. he use to play for his life in every match.



"match?" WTF are you talking about ?
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Necrosis on November 12, 2008, 07:32:47 PM
"match?" WTF are you talking about ?

hahahahah, you can tell he is a real nba fan.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: reppin203 on November 12, 2008, 07:59:27 PM
Cavs have him listed at 240.  But he looks jacked this season.  Maybe the fountain of GH flows thru Cleveland, or maybe he just discovered good nutrition.
Im just assume most pro athletes take gh at least. Why the hell wouldn't they? They're bodies are their #1 priority, they can sure as hell afford it, it's not obvious like roids(giambi), and it's un-detectable. No brainer.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Buffgeek on November 12, 2008, 08:05:46 PM
this isnt on that level, but Kevin Boss is a big dude..... 6
6 265.... crazy to see a big dude like that move like that.

Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Pete Nice on November 12, 2008, 08:58:33 PM
True freak...one of the most unbelievable athletes of all time

no MJ though...yet
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: The.Giant on November 12, 2008, 09:57:32 PM
that's fucking amazing. BronBron is a phenom.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: 240 is Back on November 12, 2008, 11:51:59 PM
jordan travelled all the time.  who cares?  i like lebron cuz he's not a ghetto thug with wasted potential (see: allen iverson).  he's still a kid and has time to get better, provided he stays healthy.   also, still seems to have the fighting spirit that we don't see that often in sports anymore.  it was a life or death mission for him to win the gold in china after getting pwned in 04.

will he be better than jordan, the greatest athlete on the planet of all time?  i don't know but he's got another 10 or so seasons to show us.

lebron went to my old high school in akron, OH.

When the high school Bball season ended in the spring of his senior year, he signed with Nike for 90 million bucks.  He was an 18-year old, going to class, worth 90 million dollars.  He got a new Hummer with all the fixins and drove it to school.

Funny thing----- Nike and Reebok were having a bidding war with him - they both put up billboards near the school where lebron drove home everyday, with phrases like "What will YOU do?", etc, targeting Lebron.  Pretty smart.


He lived near my old grandma's house in this projects/ apartment building.  Real shithole.  He didn't play much at the local playground tho - always in prep school, destined for NBA from beginning.  Played HS football and was a major star in that til sophmore year, when he realized he'd be top NBA pick by focusing on that.  ESPN would cover the high school regular season games just to see him dunk on kids 40 times.  He had an NBA body by 10th grade.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: gordiano on November 13, 2008, 12:15:20 AM
lebron is better the MJ was at the same age. He will be better overall then mj, the sport evolves man.

HA!                                            ::)
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: americanbulldog on November 13, 2008, 01:22:43 AM
Yeah, in a dunk contest, thats the furthest out Ive ever seen in an actual game though.

And that was with NO DRIBBLE.  Lebron is doing it in a live game. 
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Flex 215 on November 13, 2008, 04:13:28 AM
lebron went to my old high school in akron, OH.

When the high school Bball season ended in the spring of his senior year, he signed with Nike for 90 million bucks.  He was an 18-year old, going to class, worth 90 million dollars.  He got a new Hummer with all the fixins and drove it to school.

Funny thing----- Nike and Reebok were having a bidding war with him - they both put up billboards near the school where lebron drove home everyday, with phrases like "What will YOU do?", etc, targeting Lebron.  Pretty smart.


He lived near my old grandma's house in this projects/ apartment building.  Real shithole.  He didn't play much at the local playground tho - always in prep school, destined for NBA from beginning.  Played HS football and was a major star in that til sophmore year, when he realized he'd be top NBA pick by focusing on that.  ESPN would cover the high school regular season games just to see him dunk on kids 40 times.  He had an NBA body by 10th grade.

         Actually Nike offered him 10 million to skip his senior year of high school and play in Europe till he would have been allowed to be in the NBA draft. He said his high school team was more important and wanted to win another state title with them. But right before the state tournament, he signed autographs at a local card shop. The owner gave him 3 throw-back jerseys as payment, which Lebron accepted. It was found out and he was suspended for one play-off game, which his school still won. He knew he was getting the 90mill in about a month, yet still took the jerseys. Didn't sound like a guy that cared about his team. He was lucky, as he could have been suspended for the rest of the year.

         Oh 240, Lebron had a Hummer long before he was done with the season and signed with Nike. His mom, who was unemployed, was still able to finance one for a Christmas present. The dealership knew that Lebron would be able to pay it off in 6 months. He could have been DQed for the season for that too.

That last incident spawned the joke:

         What does Lebron James and a boy from West Virginia have in common ?

         They both got their first hummers from their Mom !  ;D
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Relentless on November 13, 2008, 06:16:13 AM
lebron is better the MJ was at the same age. He will be better overall then mj, the sport evolves man.

MJ had a "clutch" factor that was passed on to Tiger Woods.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Army of One on November 13, 2008, 06:40:12 AM
MJ had a "clutch" factor that was passed on to Tiger Woods.

Exactly, all well and good doing this in the regular season but when you are playing the top 16 teams in the playoffs and the defense has tightened up, with the pressure really on, thats when you earn your paycheque.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: CalvinH on November 13, 2008, 07:16:33 AM
Lawrence Taylor,outside LB,6-4,250lb,ran the forty in 4.45
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: jaejonna on November 13, 2008, 07:20:19 AM
Kevin Boss owning the shit out of the EAGLES hahahahha


and ALLEN IVERSON is the best pound for pound basketball player of all time.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Army of One on November 13, 2008, 07:33:43 AM
Iverson is a great athlete and scorer but he's a complete team cancer, he makes every team he goes to worse because he scores so much on such a low % and constantly needs the ball in his hands, a complete no-no for a pg/sometime SG.Its no coincidence Denver have a 3 game winning streak as soon as he left and now Detroit are losing with him at the helm.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: jaejonna on November 13, 2008, 07:35:30 AM
Iverson would be great if playing 21 aka Oak aka Ruff ...was a sport all its own.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Tee_rex65 on November 13, 2008, 07:36:49 AM
Yeah, in a dunk contest, thats the furthest out Ive ever seen in an actual game though.

Also check some old youtube clips of Clyde Drexler. He also jumped from the freethrow line in a game and if my memory serves me correct, it actually was a step further back than Lebron. Also, I'm sure Lebron does not weigh 278 lbs. NBA.com has him listed at 250 lbs. I think that's a little more believable. Karl Malone carried a lot more muscle and size then Lebron did at that height and I don't believe even he was that heavy.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/lebron_james/index.html
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: QuakerOats on November 13, 2008, 07:37:09 AM
Lawrence Taylor,outside LB,6-4,250lb,ran the forty in 4.45
Lawrence Taylor is the greatest football player who ever lived.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: jaejonna on November 13, 2008, 07:37:48 AM
Lawrence Taylor is the greatest football player who ever lived.
I second that remark ..
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Tee_rex65 on November 13, 2008, 07:44:48 AM
totally different eras man, back then there were usually only 4-5 teams that competed every year, and the same teams were good year after year. theres a reason nobody has repeated since 2002-the competition is WAY beyond what it was.

think of it this way. put '86 larry bird in the league today, he'd do well but probably not great. put Lebron or Kobe in the 80's league, and they would fuckin dominate. i mean the 80's celtics were a model of fundamentally sound basketball, but they were ALL WHITE for gods sake, they would simply get hurt by the top teams today.

I actually think it's just the opposite. I think for the most part the level of competition is NOT what it used to be in the 80's and 90's. Not to mention the game then was MUCH MORE physical. Today, you are not even allowed to handcheck a person. Take a look at the battles between Detroit and Chicago back then. Look at Barkley, bird, Laimbeer and a host of others and how people were literally mauled when they drove to the hole. Back then, it was nothing but a personal foul (very personal). Today it's a flagrant foul if you'd even think of knocking someone to the ground like that. I do think Lebron is a phenomonal talent, but overall I don't think he comes anywhere near Jordan. I hate the guy, but I think Kobe is the closest thing we've seen this generation to Jordan, both in titles and in overall talent (ability to create his own shot, cosistent jumper, fundamentals, defense, taking over games, championships, etc..)
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: sculpture on November 13, 2008, 07:49:38 AM
I actually think it's just the opposite. I think for the most part the level of competition is NOT what it used to be in the 80's and 90's. Not to mention the game then was MUCH MORE physical. Today, you are not even allowed to handcheck a person. Take a look at the battles between Detroit and Chicago back then. Look at Barkley, bird, Laimbeer and a host of others and how people were literally mauled when they drove to the hole. Back then, it was nothing but a personal foul (very personal). Today it's a flagrant foul if you'd even think of knocking someone to the ground like that. I do think Lebron is a phenomonal talent, but overall I don't think he comes anywhere near Jordan. I hate the guy, but I think Kobe is the closest thing we've seen this generation to Jordan, both in titles and in overall talent (ability to create his own shot, cosistent jumper, fundamentals, defense, taking over games, championships, etc..)

Are you just regurgitating everything i've said?
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: 240 is Back on November 13, 2008, 07:50:09 AM
         Actually Nike offered him 10 million to skip his senior year of high school and play in Europe till he would have been allowed to be in the NBA draft. He said his high school team was more important and wanted to win another state title with them. But right before the state tournament, he signed autographs at a local card shop. The owner gave him 3 throw-back jerseys as payment, which Lebron accepted. It was found out and he was suspended for one play-off game, which his school still won. He knew he was getting the 90mill in about a month, yet still took the jerseys. Didn't sound like a guy that cared about his team. He was lucky, as he could have been suspended for the rest of the year.

         Oh 240, Lebron had a Hummer long before he was done with the season and signed with Nike. His mom, who was unemployed, was still able to finance one for a Christmas present. The dealership knew that Lebron would be able to pay it off in 6 months. He could have been DQed for the season for that too.

That last incident spawned the joke:

         What does Lebron James and a boy from West Virginia have in common ?

         They both got their first hummers from their Mom !  ;D


ahh, good stuff!
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: sculpture on November 13, 2008, 07:50:35 AM
Also check some old youtube clips of Clyde Drexler. He also jumped from the freethrow line in a game and if my memory serves me correct, it actually was a step further back than Lebron. Also, I'm sure Lebron does not weigh 278 lbs. NBA.com has him listed at 250 lbs. I think that's a little more believable. Karl Malone carried a lot more muscle and size then Lebron did at that height and I don't believe even he was that heavy.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/lebron_james/index.html

No he did'nt
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Tee_rex65 on November 13, 2008, 07:55:51 AM
Are you just regurgitating everything i've said?

In all honesty I don't know what it was you wrote. However I suppose if we made similar comments....then yes.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Tee_rex65 on November 13, 2008, 07:59:39 AM
No he did'nt

I'm assuming you're referring to where Clyde Drexler's foot was when he jumped in the game? Because I am for certain he definitely jumped somewhere around the freethrow line in a game and dunked the ball with ease. I also remember him sporting that baby fro when he did it. You'd think that fros would have been more wind resistant.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Tapeworm on November 13, 2008, 08:18:53 AM
These guys have been strolling all over the court since the 80s.  The travelling rule is strictly optional.

I'd be more interested in these guys percentages than points per game.  Jordan was one of the greatest for sure, but as I remember the man ALWAYS had the ball.  Of course he scored more points than anyone else.  I'd be curious to see a comparison of points scored vs. time with the ball.  I bet Pippen would be way ahead, probably on percentages too.

Even more than that, show their overall stats to show who's the greatest, including defensive stats.  5 good players playing solid team ball will beat 5 great players playing for individual glory.  I haven't watched the NBA in years but it had turned into a game of star player vs star player, all offense, who can dunk with the greatest flourish, etc, last time I tuned in.

Sorry for the rant.  The old man is a Hoosier. 
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: QuakerOats on November 13, 2008, 08:20:43 AM
These guys have been strolling all over the court since the 80s.  The travelling rule is strictly optional.

I'd be more interested in these guys percentages than points per game.  Jordan was one of the greatest for sure, but as I remember the man ALWAYS had the ball.  Of course he scored more points than anyone else.  I'd be curious to see a comparison of points scored vs. time with the ball.  I bet Pippen would be way ahead, probably on percentages too.

Even more than that, show their overall stats to show who's the greatest, including defensive stats.  5 good players playing solid team ball will beat 5 great players playing for individual glory.  I haven't watched the NBA in years but it had turned into a game of star player vs star player, all offense, who can dunk with the greatest flourish, etc, last time I tuned in.

Sorry for the rant.  The old man is a Hoosier. 
Jordan was a much better defensive player than Lebron will ever be, not even comparable.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Tapeworm on November 13, 2008, 08:39:16 AM
Jordan was a much better defensive player than Lebron will ever be, not even comparable.

I've never even heard of Lebron.  Must be 10 years since I watched a pro game.  I'm totally out of the loop, but I won't let that stop me forcing my opinion down everyone's throat.

I preferred college ball back in the day.  It was much more interesting for me to see a team move well together on both offense and defense than the pros who seemed to view defense as secondary and whose offense 4/5 times consisted of "give it to the star."

I don't believe any player is so incredible that you just can't stop him all game long.  Double up with a triangle & 2 (or do I recall a zone of any kind illegal in the pros?), or bring a man up from the weak side and force the offense to work the ball around.  Bah... I'm babbling.

Pro or college, basketball is definitely my spectator sport of choice.  Should probably get back to it.  I just think there should be less grooming of Nike stars and more team ball being played.  Of course, then the kids wouldn't know whose jersey to buy.  :-\
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: sculpture on November 13, 2008, 08:56:02 AM
These guys have been strolling all over the court since the 80s.  The travelling rule is strictly optional.

I'd be more interested in these guys percentages than points per game.  Jordan was one of the greatest for sure, but as I remember the man ALWAYS had the ball.  Of course he scored more points than anyone else.  I'd be curious to see a comparison of points scored vs. time with the ball.  I bet Pippen would be way ahead, probably on percentages too.

Even more than that, show their overall stats to show who's the greatest, including defensive stats.  5 good players playing solid team ball will beat 5 great players playing for individual glory.  I haven't watched the NBA in years but it had turned into a game of star player vs star player, all offense, who can dunk with the greatest flourish, etc, last time I tuned in.
Sorry for the rant.  The old man is a Hoosier. 

This is true.

Characters like that carmelo anthony is a  classic example of a hotdog who doesnt really add much to team other than flashy moves
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Army of One on November 13, 2008, 08:56:34 AM

I don't believe any player is so incredible that you just can't stop him all game long. 

Jordan and Shaq might have something to say about that.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Tapeworm on November 13, 2008, 09:08:40 AM
Jordan and Shaq might have something to say about that.

I'll agree that they weren't stopped.  That's what I mean.  Defense in the pros consisted of taking a rebound.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Army of One on November 13, 2008, 10:51:47 AM
I'll agree that they weren't stopped.  That's what I mean.  Defense in the pros consisted of taking a rebound.

The Pistons collapsed on Jordan, they still couldnt stop him, there are exceptions to every rule.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: jaejonna on November 13, 2008, 11:17:13 AM
The Pistons collapsed on Jordan, they still couldnt stop him, there are exceptions to every rule.
Benard King of the Knicks shitted on the pistons too ...
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Army of One on November 13, 2008, 11:23:50 AM
Benard King of the Knicks shitted on the pistons too ...

King didnt have a whole set of rules made up for him by the opposing team.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: CalvinH on November 13, 2008, 12:03:24 PM
I second that remark ..

I third that remark...
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: technokc on November 13, 2008, 05:27:49 PM
Trust me Lebron would be good no matter what era he played in, but to say he would destroy the 80's players is ridiculous.

Many of todays guys are dunkers.  You think if you put Kobe, Lebron, Wade, etc. back in the 80's they would ever dunk on guys like Barkely, Ewing, Bird, Malone. . . . . . . hell even guys like Charles Oakley or Anthony Mason would knock these guys on their ass if they tried any of these highlight dunks you see everyday now.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: koolie1 on November 13, 2008, 06:33:11 PM
lebron is better the MJ was at the same age. He will be better overall then mj, the sport evolves man.

Thats the most assanine thing I have EVER heard. No one will be better than MJ, period.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Tee_rex65 on November 13, 2008, 06:52:08 PM
Trust me Lebron would be good no matter what era he played in, but to say he would destroy the 80's players is ridiculous.

Many of todays guys are dunkers.  You think if you put Kobe, Lebron, Wade, etc. back in the 80's they would ever dunk on guys like Barkely, Ewing, Bird, Malone. . . . . . . hell even guys like Charles Oakley or Anthony Mason would knock these guys on their ass if they tried any of these highlight dunks you see everyday now.

I have to co-sign on this one! It was a different game back then. The guys today are definitely great players, but the rules have changed drastically. In the 80's, it was a warzone down in the paint.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Necrosis on November 13, 2008, 08:58:07 PM
Thats the most assanine thing I have EVER heard. No one will be better than MJ, period.

his stats are better at the same age.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on November 13, 2008, 09:30:29 PM
NBA is a filled with a bunch of ghetto thugs and hoodrats.  Why would a self respecting white dude ever pay it any attention!   ;D
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: TechnoViking on November 17, 2008, 03:29:40 AM
Not to take anything away from Lebron's dunk, but a foot and a half in from the free throw line is not a three throw line dunk...Although still impressive....
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: slaveboy1980 on November 17, 2008, 05:23:54 AM
gretzky scored 92 goals back in 81/82. (reg season)
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Army of One on November 17, 2008, 08:01:17 AM
his stats are better at the same age.

Lol no, Jordan was averaging 37 points a game at the same age as Lebron now, 3 steals and 1.5 blocks per game as a GUARD
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: Necrosis on November 17, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
Lol no, Jordan was averaging 37 points a game at the same age as Lebron now, 3 steals and 1.5 blocks per game as a GUARD

yes he averaged 37 points, close to three steal, 1.5 blocks, 4.5 ast and 5 boards a game at 23

lebron avg 30 points, 8 boards, over 7 ast, close to two steals, and a little over a block a game.

jordans stats are slightly better, i stand corrected.
Title: Re: A guy @6'9 278 pounds shouldnt be moving like this
Post by: dario73 on November 17, 2008, 11:47:43 AM
totally different eras man, back then there were usually only 4-5 teams that competed every year, and the same teams were good year after year. theres a reason nobody has repeated since 2002-the competition is WAY beyond what it was.

think of it this way. put '86 larry bird in the league today, he'd do well but probably not great. put Lebron or Kobe in the 80's league, and they would fuckin dominate. i mean the 80's celtics were a model of fundamentally sound basketball, but they were ALL WHITE for gods sake, they would simply get hurt by the top teams today.

You don't know what the hell you are talking about. In the 80s and early 90s, the game was played at a higher level than it is today. Today, there are hardly any pro-player that can hit a mid range jumper or even great at the 3 point line. Today there is no such thing as defense. In the 80s and and 90s you had the Pistons, Knicks and a bunch of other teams who played air tight defense and if a player, even Jordan, got close to the rim he would get knocked on his ass. Today's game, with the hand checking rule and the weak defense by EVERY single team in the league, is a pussified version. 

You got it all wrong. If Lebron and Kobe played in the same era as Magic, Bird and Jordan, they wouldn't do anything. They would be good players but nothing out of the ordinary. Magic, Bird and Jordan, especially Jordan, would be absolutely toying with those 2 every single night. In today's game, with the weak defense that is so pervasive in the league, Jordan would be dropping a double nickel without breaking out a sweat.

How soon do you forget? It was just this past June in the NBA championship that Kobe did a disappearing act against the Celtics. Neither Magic, Bird nor Jordan would ever do that. No matter how good the oposing team was.

LoL. I would have liked to see Lebron try that same dunk against a prime Mailman, Rodman, Oakley, or Dawkins. Or God forbid against Barkley. HEHEHEHEHEH!!!