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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: gracie bjj on November 16, 2008, 01:55:40 AM
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i think raw athletism will get you only so far,to beat a guy like brock you need a guy with a nog type style=slick bjj and with fairly sharp hands along with good head movement and a solid chin.mir set the blueprint on how to tame that bull,you dont go head on with a bull like brock but rather let his somewhat wreckless aggressiveness expose a arm,leg,ankle or choke.i see him losing the belt within his next 2 title defenses imo,mma takes years to master and a guy like nog or gonzaga have the style to beat a guy like brock.i guess will have to wait and see if my predictions are somewhat accurate,congrats to brock though cause the guy beat a legend in randy and regardless if randy wasnt at his best doesnt matter,brock is good for mma as long as he gets rid of his teenager attitude,like the stunt he pulled after beating herring,pointing at herring and laughing,thats not good sportmanship and mma needs fighters to show class if they want the sport to grow even bigger
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i wasnt surprised when he brock smashed randy. randy is shit and people make him out to be the best fighter.
there is no way brock defeats nogs. he cant sub, ko, tko big nogs. no one can. nogs will have this in the bag when they fight.
then nogs will not be defeated until he retires
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you two are unbelievable.
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From the tittle I figured lesnar won. Was I in for a surprise when I saw it.
Maybe change the subject line a bit.
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brock COULD very well beat nog...he is very strong and will if nog tries to stand with him like he did when he fought tim sylvia he will get KO'd. nog;s chin is suspect..he almost went down against herring and was getting beat up by tim before the sub
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everyone already has nog beating Mir.thats a dangerous recipe.
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I hope Brock kills him. Nog comes off as a fkn retard on TUF. He is always hugging his students and acting like a little bitch.
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Nog barely beat Sapp. If Nog goes on the grond with Lesnar like he did with Sapp he won't do to well. Lesnar has a great G&P and he hits hard as hell and can grapple. Sapp can't do shit and Nog barely got out of that one.
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Nog barely beat Sapp. If Nog goes on the grond with Lesnar like he did with Sapp he won't do to well. Lesnar has a great G&P and he hits hard as hell and can grapple. Sapp can't do shit and Nog barely got out of that one.
I totally diagree. Nog took two SEVERE beatings from Fedor and wasn't KOed. He has the best chin in MMA. He is extremely dangerous off his back and is a moment away from a sub. I think he will batter Lesnar on his feet, then sub him on the ground. And yes, I am assuming he gets by Mir.
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Nog barely beat Sapp. If Nog goes on the grond with Lesnar like he did with Sapp he won't do to well. Lesnar has a great G&P and he hits hard as hell and can grapple. Sapp can't do shit and Nog barely got out of that one.
You're crazy, Lesnar doesn't know how to hit hard, he doesn't even plant his feet properly when he strikes, look how many times Brock connected with Couture in round 1 and didn't even faze Randy.
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I totally diagree. Nog took two SEVERE beatings from Fedor and wasn't KOed. He has the best chin in MMA. He is extremely dangerous off his back and is a moment away from a sub. I think he will batter Lesnar on his feet, then sub him on the ground. And yes, I am assuming he gets by Mir.
Point on.. Nogs doesn't mind letting you beat up his face. He will take an ass beating and wait for you to fuck up and then BOOM it's over. Dude is a master on the ground, IMO the best HW who does JJ. That being said, sure power against a true JJ practitioner, I'll put my money on the JJ. Brock will have more then his hands full with NOG!
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Point on.. Nogs doesn't mind letting you beat up his face. He will take an ass beating and wait for you to fuck up and then BOOM it's over. Dude is a master on the ground, IMO the best HW who does JJ. That being said, sure power against a true JJ practitioner, I'll put my money on the JJ. Brock will have more then his hands full with NOG!
Agreed, Nog will win by sub, after getting his face pounded for about 3 rounds :)
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Agreed, Nog will win by sub, after getting his face pounded for about 3 rounds :)
That's the thing I love about Nog, he doesn't mind you smashing his face, cause he will catch you with a sub at some point... Dude takes an ass beating to give one!
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Hahahaha Brocks beats overrated Couture and now people are going overboard.
Nog will sub him, mark my words...
Barnett would tool Brock.
Fedor would crush him.
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I hope Brock kills him. Nog comes off as a fkn retard on TUF. He is always hugging his students and acting like a little bitch.
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You're an idiot.
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Hahahaha Brocks beats overrated Couture and now people are going overboard.
Nog will sub him, mark my words...
Barnett would tool Brock.
Fedor would crush him.
100% agreed, Brock wouldn't last 45 seconds with Barnett or Fedor.. Nog will stretch it out a few rounds, but Barnett and Fedor would SLAUGHTER Brock.
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You're an idiot.
You don't think he comes off as a little odd on the show? He had a temper tantrum because one of the guys said his BJJ was basic. Why would a grown man care what someone else says about him?
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why do i have a feeling when nog and brock fight. when brock takes him down and starts the Gnp the ref will come in to early and stop the match
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why do i have a feeling when nog and brock fight. when brock takes him down and starts the Gnp the ref will come in to early and stop the match
because you live a life shrouded in pessimism and depression and with a copy of murphys law taped up on your refrigerator ?
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You don't think he comes off as a little odd on the show? He had a temper tantrum because one of the guys said his BJJ was basic. Why would a grown man care what someone else says about him?
Ah my freng, you underestimate Portugese pride. The fact that a fellow Brazzo like Vinny made comments to a guy whom Nog is soon to fight wouldn't upset Nog simply means you don't understan the culture. Abrigado...
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brock COULD very well beat nog...he is very strong and will if nog tries to stand with him like he did when he fought tim sylvia he will get KO'd. nog;s chin is suspect..he almost went down against herring and was getting beat up by tim before the sub
Nog's chin is suspect? LOL.
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also if/when brock meets fedor it will be kinda like when fedor fought coleman,the big wrestler gets a takedown or 2 then gets alittle sloppy and leaves an arm out alittle to far and bam,fedor gets the armbar.brock still hasnt proven to me that he is worthy off wearing that belt,he would have to beat nog,mir,barnett ect to prove that imo
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Nog's chin is suspect? LOL.
Mirko was putting a beatdown on Nog prior to the sub. You can't say that Nog's chin is suspect when you see the beating he took. His two fights with Barnett, both guys put a beating on each other. Nog has one of THE BEST chins in MMA.
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Mirko was putting a beatdown on Nog prior to the sub. You can't say that Nog's chin is suspect when you see the beating he took. His two fights with Barnett, both guys put a beating on each other. Nog has one of THE BEST chins in MMA.
Fuck he took some shots from Tim the Ogre, and Fedor and him had a battle for the whole fight. Nog has a concrete head!
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Nog's chin is dented....it's not what it use to be.
Nog is not the same fighter he once was, but he still damn good.
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Nog barely beat Sapp. If Nog goes on the grond with Lesnar like he did with Sapp he won't do to well. Lesnar has a great G&P and he hits hard as hell and can grapple. Sapp can't do shit and Nog barely got out of that one.
Agreed, and more so Brock is learning fast, with his power and increadible speed for a big man he will be a very dangerious prospect for anyone who under estimates brock as just another big strong guy.
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next to cabbage,nog has one of the hardest heads around,if you seen the way fedor was tagging him when he was in nogs guard and nogs head was bouncing off the canvas like a basketball you might agree wityh me,thats something your born with,being able to take brutal shots to the face and stay calm and concious cant be taught,maybe the staying calm part but thats about it imo
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lol Noguierra is going to kill Mir and kick Lesnars ass. He is a way better striker than both of them and has the best grappling in the heavyweight division. Not to mention his chin is made out of cement.
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lol Noguierra is going to kill Mir and kick Lesnars ass. He is a way better striker than both of them and has the best grappling in the heavyweight division. Not to mention his chin is made out of cement.
I think so too, Nog wont' even break a sweat putting away Mir, Lesnar will fall as well.
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Brock will beat Nog in the 1st round after the ref/stops the fight way to fcking early...Nog will get up wondering why the fck it was stopped...
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Brock will beat Nog in the 1st round after the ref/stops the fight way to fcking early...Nog will get up wondering why the fck it was stopped...
so you think the fix is in?
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Nog will find a way to win against brock - im willing to throw a few quid on it too!
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brocks danas new cash cow,danas hoping to bring in all the fake wrestling fans to mma/ufc and make even more money on ppv and tix.dana prolly feels brock is more marketable then nog so im sure dana will want brock to win,its all about the $$$$ unfortunatly
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so you think the fix is in?
not a total fix but I believe the ref will have a quick trigger if the cash cow gets a grounding and a pounding...
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not a total fix but I believe the ref will have a quick trigger if the cash cow gets a grounding and a pounding...
I was going to say I have spoken with people that have said mma fights are fixed..and yet they still watch.I would have a hard time supporting a sport that I didn't think was legit.
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I was going to say I have spoken with people that have said mma fights are fixed..and yet they still watch.I would have a hard time supporting a sport that I didn't think was legit.
I can't really say either way but like boxing, there have been some decisions that went to the judges where you say "what the fuck"...And quick stoppages etc...I think the longer the UFC keeps Dana White as a figure head, the chances of things going "the fixed" way is truly in play...Everything about the guy smells of crooked cock...
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I can't really say either way but like boxing, there have been some decisions that went to the judges where you say "what the fuck"...And quick stoppages etc...I think the longer the UFC keeps Dana White as a figure head, the chances of things going "the fixed" way is truly in play...Everything about the guy smells of crooked cock...
the bisbing,hammil fight come's to mind maybe one or two other fights.I just get annoyed by the guys that say "well if this guy don't beat that guy it's because it's fixed".come on..really?
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so far the only real fixes i heard of in the ufc was mark hall vs don frye and anthony mad dog macias vs oleg taktarov,i heard coleman did one also but i didnt hear the whole story.that was when SEG owned the ufc though,i do believe refs are told to favor one fighter over another in big fights,no sport is totally on level imo