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Title: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 20, 2008, 07:01:47 AM
International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam at the UN

Slapper, rejoice!

It is clear from the draft document, as well as from reports emanating from the subsequent 63rd UN General Assembly meeting held in Geneva during the first week of November, that a central focus of Durban II will be "Islamophobia", which is being presented as "a new form of racism".

Muslims, the draft declaration asserts, are at dire risk of a racial "holocaust" due to "a new form of racism" -- "Islamophobia" -- which is incited through "defamation of Islam".
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Dan-O on November 20, 2008, 07:06:50 AM
Clearly the non-Islamic world is comprised of infidels who must assimilate or die.  It says so right there in the Koran.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 20, 2008, 07:10:19 AM
Clearly the non-Islamic world is comprised of infidels who must assimilate or die.  It says so right there in the Koran.

Yes, but this irrefutable fact seems to be overlooked, time and time again!
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 20, 2008, 07:16:54 AM
wow, wonder where they picked up those que cards from............  One religion comes to mind for sure ;D....

Oh, guess it's OK then
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Decker on November 20, 2008, 07:18:31 AM
They better watch what they say.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Dan-O on November 20, 2008, 08:02:29 AM
So many groups want special treatment under the guise of equality and fairness.  Just sit down and shut up, already.  If I were President I'd pass a "Sit Down and STFU" law for any group clamoring for special treatment.  Yeah!!
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Fury on November 20, 2008, 09:44:05 AM
International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam at the UN

Slapper, rejoice!

It is clear from the draft document, as well as from reports emanating from the subsequent 63rd UN General Assembly meeting held in Geneva during the first week of November, that a central focus of Durban II will be "Islamophobia", which is being presented as "a new form of racism".

Muslims, the draft declaration asserts, are at dire risk of a racial "holocaust" due to "a new form of racism" -- "Islamophobia" -- which is incited through "defamation of Islam".

They're at dire risk for a racial "holocaust" for more reasons than "Islamophobia." I think beheadings, bombings and all manner of other bullshit would be much more valid reasons.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 20, 2008, 09:49:48 AM
Have you known me to ever suggest it was ok for those who wrote the cue cards in the first place? 

But what explains your straw man statements? Why do it?
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Buffgeek on November 20, 2008, 12:02:21 PM
not much different than what the dems are going to do soon after Obama takes office.

Fairness doctrine FTW!
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 20, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
Sit down and STFU law...I like that.

Most muslims are not radical nutjobs, but many muslims refuse to assimilate to the country they move to.  They try to change the country to fit their customs and religion, which is bullshit.  There is a trend of tolerance to this, which is not right.  Tolerance, in general, is important but we can't let muslims who don't want to assimilate try and change our cultures, traditions and recognize their foreign laws.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 20, 2008, 01:05:51 PM
International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam at the UN

Slapper, rejoice!

It is clear from the draft document, as well as from reports emanating from the subsequent 63rd UN General Assembly meeting held in Geneva during the first week of November, that a central focus of Durban II will be "Islamophobia", which is being presented as "a new form of racism".

Muslims, the draft declaration asserts, are at dire risk of a racial "holocaust" due to "a new form of racism" -- "Islamophobia" -- which is incited through "defamation of Islam".

the funny thing is is that the jews have been playing the infamous 'anit-semitist' card for decades now, and many scholars have been PROSECUTED AND JAILED, or had their careers destroyed, for simply daring to research a historical event (the holocaust) but thats ok right?

oh and also i agree with you about islam 100%
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: tonymctones on November 20, 2008, 05:59:42 PM
International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam at the UN

Slapper, rejoice!

It is clear from the draft document, as well as from reports emanating from the subsequent 63rd UN General Assembly meeting held in Geneva during the first week of November, that a central focus of Durban II will be "Islamophobia", which is being presented as "a new form of racism".

Muslims, the draft declaration asserts, are at dire risk of a racial "holocaust" due to "a new form of racism" -- "Islamophobia" -- which is incited through "defamation of Islam".
the majority of the blame rests on the normal islamic world for not condeming the actions of these idiotic retards imho. I understand that not every person of islamic faith shoot probabaly 99% of those in the islamic faith dont subscribe to that type of thinking but by not condeming it they aline themselves with it in the eyes of others.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 20, 2008, 09:04:54 PM
Sit down and STFU law...I like that.

Most muslims are not radical nutjobs, but many muslims refuse to assimilate to the country they move to.  They try to change the country to fit their customs and religion, which is bullshit.  There is a trend of tolerance to this, which is not right.  Tolerance, in general, is important but we can't let muslims who don't want to assimilate try and change our cultures, traditions and recognize their foreign laws.

Exactly, they are like a parasite, they come in and abuse the nation tolerance to change it into the same piece of shit place they ran away from...great logic  ::)

But we all should fear that a 1Bil of Muslims "minority" might be extinct  ::)

What about all those tiny groups that the Muslims love to run after and bomb, behead, kidnap and so on?

Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 21, 2008, 03:52:30 AM
Sit down and STFU law...I like that.

Most muslims are not radical nutjobs, but many muslims refuse to assimilate to the country they move to.  They try to change the country to fit their customs and religion, which is bullshit.  There is a trend of tolerance to this, which is not right.  Tolerance, in general, is important but we can't let muslims who don't want to assimilate try and change our cultures, traditions and recognize their foreign laws.

Sure, average Joe (or should that be Ahmed?) muslim doesn't cut off peoples head, but their whole ideology isn't permeable. It is almost entirely void of the ability to change or progress by its very nature.

It's the peaceful muslims of the majority that have political sway to incorporate their own ways of life, and even jurisdiction (sharia courts in Britain) to western society. It is this social mechanism and their undoubted ability to out breed us that is the enabler for the islamification of the western world. Individual muslims may not be evil, but the group think effect they have on societies is highly effective and negative (from our perspective).

the majority of the blame rests on the normal islamic world for not condeming the actions of these idiotic retards imho. I understand that not every person of islamic faith shoot probabaly 99% of those in the islamic faith dont subscribe to that type of thinking but by not condeming it they aline themselves with it in the eyes of others.

Exactly, how often do you hear of them voicing their opinions on so called "islamophobia", yet they are as quiet as a mouse when it comes to the atrocities of jihad.

what straw man statements?... I have a history of looking at the bigger picture, that is all.  LOL @ You guys who want to simplify to a singular evil and hold your sign and say ah ha!!!!  but you will never understand jack shit or solve any problems with that approach.  You're most likely the sort that will be a good tool, that's all.

No I don't want to simplify to a singular evil, but I would like some perspective limitations, for example, what our ancestors might had done 700 years ago cannot stand up in court as an alibi for the actions of islam NOW.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 21, 2008, 06:59:22 AM
I do not want to see western nations adopting islamic practice under the pressures of 'tolerance'.  Thats crap.  We must be vocal about where the line of tolerance stops and non-assimilation begins.
Many westerners wouldn't dare to demand change that suits our customs in middle eastern nations.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Fury on November 21, 2008, 07:26:42 AM
I do not want to see western nations adopting islamic practice under the pressures of 'tolerance'.  Thats crap.  We must be vocal about where the line of tolerance stops and non-assimilation begins.
Many westerners wouldn't dare to demand change that suits our customs in middle eastern nations.

You'd be executed for it there. Funny the double standard Muslims play.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: JBGRAY on November 21, 2008, 09:55:47 AM
Criticism of Islam is already pretty much criminalized in Western Europe.  A non-PC comment or even an accusation can cost one's job and eventually their livelihood.  And so the rapidly diminishing native populations of Europe tread lightly and carefully, hoping to not offend one of the hundreds of various Muslim and other cultural/religious groups that are moving in their midst by the millions.......and the political correctness backed up by all the bureaucracies of the state.  Holocaust education in some European schools is either not being taught or greatly diminished in its coverage for fear of possibly offending Muslims.  Housing projects in the UK were built with toilets facing away from the Mecca, for fears of offending.  This type of stuff never ends, and signifies a people and their culture sleepwalking their way towards oblivion.......the Islamic flag WILL fly over parts of Europe before the end of our lifetimes.

Under the guise of tolerance, diversity, and multiculturalism, Muslims and their allies have been able to use accusations of racism and the hot new term of Islamaphobia to bolster their own power and influence within the nations they live.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 21, 2008, 10:05:56 AM
what the hell happened to these europeans? why are they letting them walk all over them now? why is everyone so determined to stay 'politically correct' even at the cost of their nation and cultural identity? hilter must be spinning in is grave.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 21, 2008, 11:02:16 AM
"why is everyone so determined to stay 'politically correct' even at the cost of their nation and cultural identity?"

This is a good question.  Sad, really.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 21, 2008, 11:28:10 AM
I'm starting to think you mention the crusades more than I do!!!!!!!!!!  I wasn't even talking about them here ;)  You should know what I'm talking about.  How many people let it fly and still do with the slightest criticism of anything associated with Jews, boom you're antisemitic, boom you're guilty of hate speech and depending on where you're guilty of worse.   That's what these Muslims are doing now, they're taking a play out of a book already written and ready to pull out the hypocrite card lol.  I'm not excusing anyone when I point out shit like this so don't twist it. 

exactly Hugo. but hey, dont bring fair and balanced logic in here, getbig's furious little israel fanboys will rush in shortly and call you a 'muslim', hahahahaha.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 21, 2008, 11:28:39 AM
what the hell happened to these europeans? why are they letting them walk all over them now? why is everyone so determined to stay 'politically correct' even at the cost of their nation and cultural identity? hilter must be spinning in is grave.

Die you infidel!
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 21, 2008, 11:29:24 AM
F u c k islam.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 21, 2008, 11:29:38 AM
Thats true Hugo...it seems like some Muslims are being hypersensitive, as some jewish people have been.  Kind of like they took a page from their book.  Shit, maybe they are coming together now  ;D
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 21, 2008, 11:29:39 PM
Thats true Hugo...it seems like some Muslims are being hypersensitive, as some jewish people have been.  Kind of like they took a page from their book.  Shit, maybe they are coming together now  ;D

Last time I checked Islam was a cheap spin off of Judaism  ;)

Also the big difference between Muslims and other minorities such as Asians,Indians,Jews etc...is that those minorities doesn't raise riots world wide amongst  the other shit they do on a daily basis.

The minorities I stated are all considered very smart,hard working and successful , yet I wonder why Muslims have a whole other set of descriptions regarding to them....hmmm....
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 22, 2008, 04:03:07 AM
I'm starting to think you mention the crusades more than I do!!!!!!!!!!  I wasn't even talking about them here ;)  You should know what I'm talking about.  How many people let it fly and still do with the slightest criticism of anything associated with Jews, boom you're antisemitic, boom you're guilty of hate speech and depending on where you're guilty of worse.  That's what these Muslims are doing now, they're taking a play out of a book already written and ready to pull out the hypocrite card lol.  I'm not excusing anyone when I point out shit like this so don't twist it. 

Criticize Jews if that's your thing, but what has that got to do with this thread?

Again, for a mod, you sure like to go off on weird tangents.

exactly Hugo. but hey, dont bring fair and balanced logic in here, getbig's furious little israel fanboys will rush in shortly and call you a 'muslim', hahahahaha.

Wow, the fair and balanced logic in this post is quite the spectacle! Nice ad hominem attack...

Last time I checked Islam was a cheap spin off of Judaism  ;)

Also the big difference between Muslims and other minorities such as Asians,Indians,Jews etc...is that those minorities doesn't raise riots world wide amongst  the other shit they do on a daily basis.

The minorities I stated are all considered very smart,hard working and successful , yet I wonder why Muslims have a whole other set of descriptions regarding to them....hmmm....

JOHN MATRIX, Hugo, you think you can refute the above quote?
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 22, 2008, 05:28:08 AM
International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam at the UN

Slapper, rejoice!

It is clear from the draft document, as well as from reports emanating from the subsequent 63rd UN General Assembly meeting held in Geneva during the first week of November, that a central focus of Durban II will be "Islamophobia", which is being presented as "a new form of racism".

Muslims, the draft declaration asserts, are at dire risk of a racial "holocaust" due to "a new form of racism" -- "Islamophobia" -- which is incited through "defamation of Islam".

And what would you like me to say? I mean, this is much like the Mike Tyson / Mitch Green street fight back in the late 80s: I still do not know who to believe. Mike is a hothead and Mitch is well known to pick fights on purpose (Mitch still got his ass whooped though  ;D).

It's the same with Islam vs the rest of the world. I mean Islamophobia does exist in the west. By the same token, some Islamic countries are absolute shit holes from any point of view and they seek no way of getting out unless it's through the religious route. Like I said before, I lived in Spain many years and one of the things I never understood is how all these Moroccans who lived and worked in Spain were protesting about every possible thing and when going on vacation to Morocco they became ULTRA-obedient as soon as they stepped off the boat in Tangiers (I presume because they know a single complaint could land them in jail).

Given the chance, there are many things I'd say to any Muslim friend. By the same token, there are many things I'd like to say here in the USA, this century, that could very easily land me in jail even though they advocate for neither crime nor religion.

I think it's safe to say that this is a very confusing time for everyone.

Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 22, 2008, 05:34:41 AM
Sit down and STFU law...I like that.

Most muslims are not radical nutjobs, but many muslims refuse to assimilate to the country they move to.  They try to change the country to fit their customs and religion, which is bullshit.  There is a trend of tolerance to this, which is not right.  Tolerance, in general, is important but we can't let muslims who don't want to assimilate try and change our cultures, traditions and recognize their foreign laws.

I like a STFU law for groups who want special rights.  I also think it is part of the Islamic playbook to try to change their host country rather than assimilate. 
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 22, 2008, 06:13:22 AM
Here. (http://www.fandome.com/video/98854/Mitch-Blood-Green-calls-Mike-Tyson-a-Homo/)
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 22, 2008, 06:27:20 AM
I like a STFU law for groups who want special rights.  I also think it is part of the Islamic playbook to try to change their host country rather than assimilate. 


Maybe Islam = The Borg ? LOL

Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 22, 2008, 07:08:36 AM

Maybe Islam = The Borg ? LOL



Islam is a cult.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Fury on November 22, 2008, 07:32:59 AM
Criticize Jews if that's your thing, but what has that got to do with this thread?

Again, for a mod, you sure like to go off on weird tangents.


They can't debate Islam without bringing the Jews into it. "Terrorist bombing kills 40 women and children." Hugo: "Well, the Jews in Israel made them do it and did something along those lines and the Christians did the same thing 1192!" 

It just shows how porous their arguments really are. They never really refute anything beyond bringing the Jews into it. That's how most of the Muslims in the world act. Watch some of those speeches from the extremist clerics. They have no substance.

And you missed it but last week Hugo started a thread for people to vote as to whether he should stay mod or not. He thought he was hot shit and would walk away with a landslide victory and he ended up losing 1:2+. Not only that, but the little bitch refused to give up his position after he said he would. Guy's an alcoholic coward.



Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Slapper on November 22, 2008, 08:02:58 AM
They can't debate Islam without bringing the Jews into it. "Terrorist bombing kills 40 women and children." Hugo: "Well, the Jews in Israel made them do it and did something along those lines and the Christians did the same thing 1192!" 

It just shows how porous their arguments really are. They never really refute anything beyond bringing the Jews into it. That's how most of the Muslims in the world act. Watch some of those speeches from the extremist clerics. They have no substance.

And you missed it but last week Hugo started a thread for people to vote as to whether he should stay mod or not. He thought he was hot shit and would walk away with a landslide victory and he ended up losing 1:2+. Not only that, but the little bitch refused to give up his position after he said he would. Guy's an alcoholic coward.





I really do not know who you are referring to when saying "they", but most of the shit your ass has spewed has been refuted over an over again. Just saying that it hasn't means you're really "out there".

Aside from that it's really, really funny that a Jew would be criticising Muslims for trying to criminalize criticism of Islam, something laughable at best by the way, when you guys have all these Jewish Anti Defamation League cronies running around spying on everyone and taking them to court if they have the balls to say anything against the Jewish community.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Fury on November 22, 2008, 08:10:40 AM
I really do not know who you are referring to when saying "they", but most of the shit your ass has spewed has been refuted over an over again. Just saying that it hasn't means you're really "out there".

Aside from that it's really, really funny that a Jew would be criticising Muslims for trying to criminalize criticism of Islam, something laughable at best by the way, when you guys have all these Jewish Anti Defamation League representatives spying on everyone and taking them to court if they have the balls to say anything against the Jewish community.


No, fortunately nothing I've said has really been refuted. You, for one, have not done anything but bring strawman arguments and pathetic attempts at justification to the table. You can't make a post without comparing Islam to a number of other religions, again trying to justify violence by referencing things Christians did 800 years ago. Funny how you forget that 800 years ago, the Muslims were just as violent as the Christians.

Oh gee, another post that starts out about Islam and ends up with you focusing on another religion!


I find it funny how you avoid most of the threads regarding Islam. Like the one about the Afghani girls getting blinded by acid. How come you didn't pop up there? Couldn't justify it and compare the attack to Christianity/Judaism? Move along, Ahmed.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 22, 2008, 08:11:00 AM
And by the way, if you guys don't know it, these Jewish ADL people sit on every book presentation, they are in universities, schools, social clubs, etc. So watch out.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Fury on November 22, 2008, 08:12:45 AM
And by the way, if you guys don't know it, these Jewish ADL people sit on every book presentation, they are in universities, schools, social clubs, etc. So watch out.

Are they trying to cut our heads off? So what you're saying is that every person who bashes Jews has been brought to court? Interesting. Any proof of this claim of yours?

Don't try to derail this thread off of Islam like every other thread you've tried to do, Mohammed Rafiq Al-Libi.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Slapper on November 22, 2008, 08:24:53 AM
No, fortunately nothing I've said has really been refuted. You, for one, have not done anything but bring strawman arguments and pathetic attempts at justification to the table.

In your first line you say I did not refute anything you said. On your second line you say I did, although in terms you did not like or found to be meaningful (which I presume you call "straw man" whatever. Which one of the two by-polar BerzerkFuries would you like me to believe?

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You can't make a post without comparing Islam to a number of other religions, again trying to justify violence by referencing things Christians did 800 years ago. Funny how you forget that 800 years ago, the Muslims were just as violent as the Christians.

Who says you "can't"? You! I mean, I do not frame your conversation within boundaries to my liking. The only thing I ask of you is to reciprocate this wish. I do not ask of you to agree with me on anything. I do ask for you to be objective and take past facts into account. This is so because history, specially when dealing with religion, is capricious, hence trying to prevent me from explaining how we got from point A (which is in the past) to point B, which is the present by refuting why I say by alleging that looking at all that took place from point A to B is not acceptable is ludicrous.

So in essence, this is where we stand right now: You make a stupid comment and you stubornly regress to the "straw man" argument (I still do not know what you mean by it, as well as Nordic's constant use of the word "apologetic") when I make a perfectly fair and balanced comparison showing you or I or our country doing exactly the same thing.

When looking at religion, you MUST take everything into account. It's like with finances. Do you go to your broker and say "invest in companies that are making money but don't look at past performance"?
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Fury on November 22, 2008, 08:29:53 AM
Who says you "can't"? You! I mean, I do not frame your conversation within boundaries to my liking. The only thing I ask of you is to reciprocate this wish. I do not ask of you to agree with me on anything. I do ask for you to be objective and take past facts into account. This is so because history, specially when dealing with religion, is capricious, hence trying to prevent me from explaining how we got from point A (which is in the past) to point B, which is the present by refuting why I say by alleging that looking at all that took place from point A to B is not acceptable is ludicrous.

So in essence, this is where we stand right now: You make a stupid comment and you stubornly regress to the "straw man" argument (I still do not know what you mean by it, as well as Nordic's constant use of the word "apologetic") when I make a perfectly fair and balanced comparison showing you or I or our country doing exactly the same thing.

When looking at religion, you MUST take everything into account. It's like with finances. Do you go to your broker and say "invest in companies that are making money but don't look at past performance"?

Dynamite job on the quoting bright spot. Where did I say that you justified anything? I said you bring pathetic attempts at justification. They have no substance. They don't prove anything outside of your inability to make a post about Islam that doesn't have a reference to another religion in it. We get it, you're a Muslim. You think your religion has a free pass to do whatever they want because the Christians AND Muslims were violent 800 years ago. Yes, we get it. Beheadings, suicide bombings, rapes, torture, killing of children are all ok to you because both religions did it 800 years ago. You've made your point. It's a retarded one, but we get it.

You consistently ignore the fact that 800 years ago, the Muslims were just as bad as the Christians, if not worse. They were incredibly barbaric, violent and used tools such as rape as a weapon of war. While the Christians and other religions moved past that point, the Muslims of 800 years ago are the same as the Muslims of today. You ignore that little aspect because it destroys the point you're consistently trying to make on here. Your arguments are terrible and only show that you're an apologist.

You really do sound just like the extremist clerics. Word for word. They consistently ignore 99% of the facts while spewing garbage. What does it do? Only makes thousands of people turn to violence.  ::)
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Slapper on November 22, 2008, 10:16:01 AM
Dynamite job on the quoting bright spot. Where did I say that you justified anything? I said you bring pathetic attempts at justification. They have no substance. They don't prove anything outside of your inability to make a post about Islam that doesn't have a reference to another religion in it. We get it, you're a Muslim. You think your religion has a free pass to do whatever they want because the Christians AND Muslims were violent 800 years ago. Yes, we get it. Beheadings, suicide bombings, rapes, torture, killing of children are all ok to you because both religions did it 800 years ago. You've made your point. It's a retarded one, but we get it.

You consistently ignore the fact that 800 years ago, the Muslims were just as bad as the Christians, if not worse. They were incredibly barbaric, violent and used tools such as rape as a weapon of war. While the Christians and other religions moved past that point, the Muslims of 800 years ago are the same as the Muslims of today. You ignore that little aspect because it destroys the point you're consistently trying to make on here. Your arguments are terrible and only show that you're an apologist.

You really do sound just like the extremist clerics. Word for word. They consistently ignore 99% of the facts while spewing garbage. What does it do? Only makes thousands of people turn to violence.  ::)

You're so wrong on every possible thing. I keep telling you I was baptized, confirmed married catholic... yet, somehow, you keep insisting I am a Muslim cleric!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Weirdo!!

Apart from that, what can I say? I mean, first you say I did not refute anything, then you concede I did but using the "wrong" arguments (straw men or apologetics or whatever the hell you people call it). So all in all I am dealing with someone who is unable to agree with me on anything (even my own identity).

Once you "fix" your bypolar problems come back to me.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Fury on November 22, 2008, 10:44:16 AM
You're so wrong on every possible thing. I keep telling you I was baptized, confirmed married catholic... yet, somehow, you keep insisting I am a Muslim cleric!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Weirdo!!

Apart from that, what can I say? I mean, first you say I did not refute anything, then you concede I did but using the "wrong" arguments (straw men or apologetics or whatever the hell you people call it). So all in all I am dealing with someone who is unable to agree with me on anything (even my own identity).

Once you "fix" your bypolar problems come back to me.

Oh gee, you avoided my point about the Ottoman Empire. I'm shocked. Why? Oh, that's right. You can't spin it. Stop trying to derail this thread, apologist.

No one is insisting that you're a Muslim cleric. You conduct yourself like one. Spin arguments, outright lies, propagating false stories. You're no different from those Sheiks preaching violence against everyone who isn't Muslim.  :D
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Slapper on November 22, 2008, 10:58:21 AM
Oh gee, you avoided my point about the Ottoman Empire. I'm shocked. Why? Oh, that's right. You can't spin it. Stop trying to derail this thread, apologist.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What comment are you referring to?

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No one is insisting that you're a Muslim cleric.

Dude, YOU KEEP SAYING I AM A MUSLIM. Can you read?

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You conduct yourself like one. Spin arguments, outright lies, propagating false stories. You're no different from those Sheiks preaching violence against everyone who isn't Muslim.  :D

All I've asked of you is to allow me to refute your points with any counterargument I so choose. Apart from that, accuse me of anything you want (being a Muslim if you want to). I mean... "propagating false stories", not wanting to "refute your points", etc; and yet, AS USUAL, providing no examples.

You are the man!!!
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Fury on November 22, 2008, 11:02:55 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What comment are you referring to?

Dude, YOU KEEP SAYING I AM A MUSLIM. Can you read?

All I've asked of you is to allow me to refute your points with any counterargument I so choose. Apart from that, accuse me of anything you want (being a Muslim if you want to). I mean... "propagating false stories", not wanting to "refute your points", etc; and yet, AS USUAL, providing no examples.

You are the man!!!


Oh, so saying that you conduct yourself like a Muslim is calling you one? Interesting. Why are you getting so defensive? Are you really a Muslim?  ???

You're welcome to say what you want. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing (something Muslims disapprove of). You can say what you want, and I'll say what I want.....


....like you're an apologist douche bag who tries to derail every thread that casts your Muslim brothers in a bad light.  :D




A smattering a emoticons and randomly capitalized words generally indicates that you're getting frustrated and agitated. Calm down sunshine, it's an internet forum.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 22, 2008, 01:06:11 PM
Islam is a cult plague.

I fixed it for you  ;D
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 22, 2008, 01:19:04 PM
And by the way, if you guys don't know it, these Jewish ADL people sit on every book presentation, they are in universities, schools, social clubs, etc. So watch out.

So what reaction do you want for this statement? Do you want me to say... oh jee... then maybe it is OK for muslims to implant the censorship of critical discussion of islam in UN sanctions...

I don't agree with the Jews doing it, Christians, and certainly not muslims.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 22, 2008, 02:37:50 PM
They can't debate Islam without bringing the Jews into it. "Terrorist bombing kills 40 women and children." Hugo: "Well, the Jews in Israel made them do it and did something along those lines and the Christians did the same thing 1192!" 

It just shows how porous their arguments really are. They never really refute anything beyond bringing the Jews into it. That's how most of the Muslims in the world act. Watch some of those speeches from the extremist clerics. They have no substance.

And you missed it but last week Hugo started a thread for people to vote as to whether he should stay mod or not. He thought he was hot shit and would walk away with a landslide victory and he ended up losing 1:2+. Not only that, but the little bitch refused to give up his position after he said he would. Guy's an alcoholic coward.





Muslims are weak cowards, ask Egypt if their soldiers want the thousands of shoes they left when they fled when Israel crushed them  :-*
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Isla
Post by: Slapper on November 22, 2008, 02:46:23 PM
Oh, so saying that you conduct yourself like a Muslim is calling you one? Interesting. Why are you getting so defensive? Are you really a Muslim?  ???

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

OH. MY. GOD.

You STILL think I'm a Muslim!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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You're welcome to say what you want. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing (something Muslims disapprove of). You can say what you want, and I'll say what I want.....


....like you're an apologist douche bag who tries to derail every thread that casts your Muslim brothers in a bad light.  :D

Instead of just spending your time and effort into analyzing my comments why don't you JUST COMMENT YOUR VIEWS of the subject at hand, not how I formulate my response.

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A smattering a emoticons and randomly capitalized words generally indicates that you're getting frustrated and agitated. Calm down sunshine, it's an internet forum.

You are a retard.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 22, 2008, 02:49:46 PM
So what reaction do you want for this statement? Do you want me to say... oh jee... then maybe it is OK for muslims to implant the censorship of critical discussion of islam in UN sanctions...

No, but that is precisely what I'm saying: It's not OK for anyone to do it. No one, be it KKKatho-lick, Jew (are the best) or sand-niggga. 

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I don't agree with the Jews doing it, Christians, and certainly not muslims.

There you go bud! Something we have in common. Now, what is the point of posting the thread above if that is the case. Just gimme your opinion.

Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 22, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
No, but that is precisely what I'm saying: It's not OK for anyone to do it. No one, be it KKKatho-lick, Jew (are the best) or sand-niggga. 

There you go bud! Something we have in common. Now, what is the point of posting the thread above if that is the case. Just gimme your opinion.

Simply that practitioners of the islamic ideology pose more of a threat to my lively-hood then the aforementioned groups.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 23, 2008, 05:25:08 AM
Simply that practitioners of the islamic ideology pose more of a threat to my lively-hood then the aforementioned groups.

Well, that is YOUR opinion. Obviously it's not everyone else's. In any case, I'll have you know you are more likely to die in a car crash, or... listen to this: you are twice as likely to die crushed by a vending machine than a terrorist attack. Here (http://www.mattbarr.com/archives/2006/09/your_chance_of.html).

Priorities, priorities.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 23, 2008, 07:29:14 AM
Well, that is YOUR opinion. Obviously it's not everyone else's. In any case, I'll have you know you are more likely to die in a car crash, or... listen to this: you are twice as likely to die crushed by a vending machine than a terrorist attack. Here (http://www.mattbarr.com/archives/2006/09/your_chance_of.html).

Priorities, priorities.

Its a fact.  Islam is the most violent ideology on the planet and there are presently dozens of conflicts around the world directly related to the refusal of the cult members of islam to peaceably coexist with anyone other than themselves.

Islam is a cancer.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 23, 2008, 07:38:43 AM
Its a fact.  Islam is the most violent ideology on the planet and there are presently dozens of conflicts around the world directly related to the refusal of the cult members of islam to peaceably coexist with anyone other than themselves.

Islam is a cancer.

I ain't gonna touch that!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

Priceless.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 23, 2008, 11:36:46 AM
I ain't gonna touch that!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

Priceless.


Truth is really priceless, you're right about that.

Islam should be abolished from the face of the Earth.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 23, 2008, 02:51:02 PM

Truth is really priceless, you're right about that.

Islam should be abolished from the face of the Earth.

Sure. Why don't we just nuke the bastards? Kill as many of them sand-níggers as we can. Rape their females. Grab their kids by the legs and beat them senseless until their heads are wide open and we've got brain matter all over our pants and boots. Then grab the old motherfuckers, the ones we've just forced to sit there while we do all this good service to humanity, tell them to lie face down and shoot them all in the back of the head. No one left alive.

Maybe then you will feel like you live in a safer world.

The question is: Will the rest of the world then feel safer with you in it?
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Deicide on November 23, 2008, 04:43:43 PM
Jews.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 23, 2008, 09:24:30 PM
Sure. Why don't we just nuke the bastards? Kill as many of them sand-níggers as we can. Rape their females. Grab their kids by the legs and beat them senseless until their heads are wide open and we've got brain matter all over our pants and boots. Then grab the old motherfuckers, the ones we've just forced to sit there while we do all this good service to humanity, tell them to lie face down and shoot them all in the back of the head. No one left alive.

Maybe then you will feel like you live in a safer world.

The question is: Will the rest of the world then feel safer with you in it?


Democracy have to protect itself with undemocratic means.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Nordic Superman on November 24, 2008, 02:19:58 AM
Well, that is YOUR opinion. Obviously it's not everyone else's. In any case, I'll have you know you are more likely to die in a car crash, or... listen to this: you are twice as likely to die crushed by a vending machine than a terrorist attack. Here (http://www.mattbarr.com/archives/2006/09/your_chance_of.html).

Priorities, priorities.

Huh? It's a fact. Let's look at the demographics, the lifestyles, the freedom of the peoples, their rights, their opportunities etc. under islamic law.

I'm more likely to die in a car crash than in a terrorist attack, so what? ??? What's your logic? I don't care about me dying, I care about the morality and the freedoms of my society, my potential death at the hands of jihadism is almost null in the bearings of my opinion.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2008, 07:12:09 AM
Sure. Why don't we just nuke the bastards? Kill as many of them sand-níggers as we can. Rape their females. Grab their kids by the legs and beat them senseless until their heads are wide open and we've got brain matter all over our pants and boots. Then grab the old motherfuckers, the ones we've just forced to sit there while we do all this good service to humanity, tell them to lie face down and shoot them all in the back of the head. No one left alive.

Maybe then you will feel like you live in a safer world.

The question is: Will the rest of the world then feel safer with you in it?

No.  The fact of the matter is that nations must refuse and not allow their countries to bow down to these creeps who do not want to assimilate.

Here is what I would do immediately:

1.  Deport all illegal aliens to wherever they came from.

2.  End all funding to all charities with ties to Islamic radicals and terror groups.

3.  Commence domestic oil drilling and seek viable alternatives to oil and tell OPEC to drop dead.

 
   

Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 24, 2008, 09:31:29 AM
No.  The fact of the matter is that nations must refuse and not allow their countries to bow down to these creeps who do not want to assimilate.

Here is what I would do immediately:

1.  Deport all illegal aliens to wherever they came from.

2.  End all funding to all charities with ties to Islamic radicals and terror groups.

3.  Commence domestic oil drilling and seek viable alternatives to oil and tell OPEC to drop dead.

 
   




You forgot to praise Obama, I think the Democrats will demand the removal of "in god we trust" and replace it with "in obama we trust" , fucking sheep.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 27, 2008, 05:34:16 AM
I'm more likely to die in a car crash than in a terrorist attack, so what? ??? What's your logic? I don't care about me dying, I care about the morality and the freedoms of my society[...]

But that's exactly the problem, how "free" are we (meaning out society) if we're put on survival mode by our "leaders" on a threat whose probability of actually taking place is similar to you choking on your own sperm while sucking your own dick.

I seriously do not waste any of my time thinking about foreign terrorists or shit alike. I care about being careful while crossing the street so that I do not get run over by a drunk driver (REAL problem), robbed (another REAL problem) or lose my job (another REAL problem). As far international Islamic organizations embarking on a crusade to criminalise criticism of Islam... YAWN.... I don't lose any sleep over it. I say this because I know it AINT GOING TO HAPPEN. In fact, I know that Islam's worst enemy is its radical self. Moderate Muslims know that unless all these radical/extremist types are brought down their religion (and possibly societies) is (are) doomed (and that includes our loonies too). Not because I want it to happen mind you, but because it's simple physics: You mess with someone who's got bigger guns than you and your chances of dying go up exponentially.

Priorities, priorities.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 27, 2008, 05:40:54 AM

Democracy have to protect itself with undemocratic means.

And the # 1 reason for "democratic" countries to go out on colonialistic murder rampages: Their own protection.

Let me ask you something: Did Islam come to the US or did the US come to the Islamic countries?

It's a simple question, do not beat around the bush.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 27, 2008, 05:55:13 AM
No.  The fact of the matter is that nations must refuse and not allow their countries to bow down to these creeps who do not want to assimilate.

But that's up to them. Don't ya think?

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Here is what I would do immediately:

1.  Deport all illegal aliens to wherever they came from.

2.  End all funding to all charities with ties to Islamic radicals and terror groups.

3.  Commence domestic oil drilling and seek viable alternatives to oil and tell OPEC to drop dead.

You forgot:"And castrate all males on the way out (of the country)".

Look, I understand that Islamophobia is the # 1 sport nowadays in this country of ours. All I ask is that just stand back and analyze before you jump to conclusions. Just think this: Muslims are human beings too.  
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 27, 2008, 06:06:43 AM

You forgot to praise Obama, I think the Democrats will demand the removal of "in god we trust" and replace it with "in obama we trust" , fucking sheep.

Hey, at least we believe in a REAL person who happens to live in the PRESENT and not on someone who may or may not have existed, in burning bushes or not eating meat on Good Friday. THAT is what I call stupidly moronic "fucking sheep".
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 27, 2008, 09:12:01 PM
Hey, at least we believe in a REAL person who happens to live in the PRESENT and not on someone who may or may not have existed, in burning bushes or not eating meat on Good Friday. THAT is what I call stupidly moronic "fucking sheep".

Wow talk about missing the point.

Not only that you admitted to being a part of the Obama religion you assumed that I'm pro religion which I'm very not, doesn't matter which one.
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 29, 2008, 06:14:31 AM
Wow talk about missing the point.

Not only that you admitted to being a part of the Obama religion you assumed that I'm pro religion which I'm very not, doesn't matter which one.

I did not admit to anything. You put together the two favorite neocon words "Democrats" and "fucking sheep" and I answered with the typical anarchical reciprocity. Since YOU are the one who made a huge generalization about Democrats (that we support Obama and are "fucking sheep",) why do you make MY generalization somehow seem like it's outta place?

Psalms 22: "Ain't no thing like a chinken wing!".
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 29, 2008, 06:19:06 AM
I did not admit to anything. You put together the two favorite neocon words "Democrats" and "fucking sheep" and I answered with the typical anarchical reciprocity. Since YOU are the one who made a huge generalization about Democrats (that we support Obama and are "fucking sheep",) why do you make MY generalization somehow seem like it's outta place?

Psalms 22: "Ain't no thing like a chinken wing!".

I didn't generalized I see your actions and they fit nicely with sheep like mentality .
Title: Re: International Islamic organization attempts to criminalize criticism of Islam
Post by: Slapper on November 29, 2008, 07:01:53 AM
I didn't generalized I see your actions and they fit nicely with sheep like mentality .

I didn't generalize either I saw your actions and they fit nicely with stupidly moronic "fucking sheep" mentality.