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Title: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Mark Kerr on November 20, 2008, 06:49:53 PM
God she's dumb.

Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: bigdumbbell on November 20, 2008, 06:52:10 PM
she's a douche bag too.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 20, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
zero saavy to stand in front of that for an interview.

this is like a bad SNL skit.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Voice of Doom on November 20, 2008, 07:24:00 PM
That is F**KING hilarious!

hahahahahahahahahahahaha ahahahahahahahahhaha


Kafka would be proud.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: koolie1 on November 20, 2008, 07:27:47 PM
MY FUCKING GOD. I would rather stick SHARDS OF FUCKING GLASS THROUGH MY EARDRUMS rather than listen to her annoying ass voice. Fucking Fargo backwoods dumb ass bitch.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: gordiano on November 20, 2008, 07:47:58 PM
MY FUCKING GOD. I would rather stick SHARDS OF FUCKING GLASS THROUGH MY EARDRUMS rather than listen to her annoying ass voice. Fucking Fargo backwoods dumb ass bitch.

Seriously......I've had enough of that bimbo for at least 10 lifetimes....
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: PJim on November 20, 2008, 07:48:56 PM
Does the dumb bint have any taste?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 20, 2008, 07:55:34 PM
she can't stop screwing things up.  I mean, wouldn't anyone have the judgment to not stand in front of turkerys being fed to a grinder? 

She's either that desensitized to flesh shredding (WTF, mate?) or that oblivious to her surroundings.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: nycbull on November 20, 2008, 08:03:00 PM
"desiring the government get out of the way"  wtf?

Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Lurker79 on November 20, 2008, 08:28:39 PM
she can't stop screwing things up.  I mean, wouldn't anyone have the judgment to not stand in front of turkerys being fed to a grinder? 

She's either that desensitized to flesh shredding (WTF, mate?) or that oblivious to her surroundings.

It makes her look like she's in touch with good ol' Joe Sixpack/ Joe the Plumber. Palin 2012!!! ::) ::)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 20, 2008, 08:34:04 PM
That video alone has a south park skit written all over it...Too bad someone didn't put her in the grinder instead of the turkey...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 20, 2008, 08:34:59 PM
It makes her look like she's in touch with good ol' Joe Sixpack/ Joe the Plumber. Palin 2012!!! ::) ::)


LOL... the republican party wouldn't be stupid enough to let her giftwrap an obama win TWICE, would they?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: onlyme on November 20, 2008, 08:35:10 PM
They need to sharpen the blades of that thing.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Rimbaud on November 20, 2008, 08:35:37 PM
Wow...that was painful to watch...I couldn't get through the whole things without my ears bleeding.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Lurker79 on November 20, 2008, 08:36:52 PM

LOL... the republican party wouldn't be stupid enough to let her giftwrap an obama win TWICE, would they?

I dunno, the Democrats let Bush win twice...anything's possible in America. Except for Ron Paul becoming president ;D
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: jesusbod on November 20, 2008, 08:40:18 PM
I guess its her fault the turkey's are being slaughtered too huh?

It amazes me that all of you hate her so much but yet, still post almost daily about her. The more you keep talking about her the more she is going to gain popularity and WIN the Presidency in 2012.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: The Coach on November 20, 2008, 08:46:10 PM
Still can't grasp that she'll be the next Pres? This is obviously a thread created by a lib and it's responses are from libs. Get a grip libs, your buddy Obama is media made and a total marketing ploy and gimmick by his handelers. He has less experiance than most in a high school government class, hahahahaha! And please don't get me started on Biden (and palosi, Reid, Kerry, Emmanuel and the rest of the "12%" approval rating bunch. They own themselves on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: gcb on November 20, 2008, 08:46:17 PM
I guess its her fault the turkey's are being slaughtered too huh?

It amazes me that all of you hate her so much but yet, still post almost daily about her. The more you keep talking about her the more she is going to gain popularity and WIN the Presidency in 2012.

Get back to the bible bro and leave the adults to talk
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Rimbaud on November 20, 2008, 08:47:18 PM
Still can't grasp that she'll be the next Pres? This is obviously a thread created by a lib and it's responses are from libs. Get a grip libs, your buddy Obama is media made and a total marketing ploy and gimmick by his handelers. He has less experiance than most in a high school government class, hahahahaha! And please don't get me started on Biden (and palosi, Reid, Kerry, Emmanuel and the rest of the "12%" approval rating bunch. They own themselves on a daily basis.

 ::)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 20, 2008, 08:47:25 PM
Still can't grasp that she'll be the next Pres?

Dude, 60% of Americans polled on election day said that she's not competent to be VP.
18% of the republican base just stayed home that day.
FOX threw her under the bus for 2 weeks after the election to completely ruin her, so she wouldn't have a chance in 2012.  Remember the "Africa is a continent" comment that FOX news held til after the election?  That was them, not some lib media group.

There are some brilliant, qualified Republican candidates for 2012.  She isn't one of them.  
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: nycbull on November 20, 2008, 08:47:35 PM
I guess its her fault the turkey's are being slaughtered too huh?

It amazes me that all of you hate her so much but yet, still post almost daily about her. The more you keep talking about her the more she is going to gain popularity and WIN the Presidency in 2012.

if she cant make good choices about where to stage an interview, how is she going to make good choices running the country?.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 20, 2008, 08:48:05 PM
I guess its her fault the turkey's are being slaughtered too huh?

It amazes me that all of you hate her so much but yet, still post almost daily about her. The more you keep talking about her the more she is going to gain popularity and WIN the Presidency in 2012.

I wonder if there is some sort of law about grinding up live turkeys...Peta is going to have a field day with this...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: The Coach on November 20, 2008, 08:48:06 PM
Did you expect to eat the Turkeys alive for Thanksgiving?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: jesusbod on November 20, 2008, 08:50:24 PM
Looks to me she was touring a processing place for Turkey's... I don't see anything wrong. And to anyone from Peta, those turkeys are the same ones on your dinner table...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Necrosis on November 20, 2008, 08:51:21 PM
Still can't grasp that she'll be the next Pres? This is obviously a thread created by a lib and it's responses are from libs. Get a grip libs, your buddy Obama is media made and a total marketing ploy and gimmick by his handelers. He has less experiance than most in a high school government class, hahahahaha! And please don't get me started on Biden (and palosi, Reid, Kerry, Emmanuel and the rest of the "12%" approval rating bunch. They own themselves on a daily basis.

are you not aware she is utterly stupid?

how could anyone vote for her regardless of their affiliation. Jesus grow some brains.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 20, 2008, 08:52:20 PM
Looks to me she was touring a processing place for Turkey's... I don't see anything wrong. And to anyone from Peta, those turkeys are the same ones on your dinner table...

You don't just stand in front of live birds having their heads shredded loudly and do interviews.

It's like she WANTS to fail.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Rimbaud on November 20, 2008, 08:53:45 PM
You don't just stand in front of live birds having their heads shredded loudly and do interviews.

It's like she WANTS to fail.

She's trying pretty hard. On a side note do you think she really believes she in touch with what real people want?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Jizzacked on November 20, 2008, 08:54:29 PM
Jesus, it took me a minute to figure out how the hell that thing was working, looks like it decapitates them and bleeds em out and they sit in the funnel while their body twitches instead of flopping around all over the place.

you would think there would be some more efficient way to do this sort of thing these days, I thought they shocked them or something, that was pretty draconian but hey, its the poultry industry and a dirty job.

peta folks are gonna love that one, she just sets herself up over and over again, that shrill voice of hers is like nails on a chalkboard... I know there is speculation going on that they are working on polishing her up and get her positioned in a higher office in the coming years, I hope most people will be able to see through the absurdity, its like one of those shitty movies where they take some high school misfit and turn her into the most popular girl in the school, they seem to hope that storybook theme will carry over in real life I guess...

Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: gcb on November 20, 2008, 08:54:36 PM
What message is she trying to send with that exactly? She could have been somewhere else 50 yards away so we wouldn't see the turkeys being slaughtered.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: jesusbod on November 20, 2008, 09:00:46 PM
She's trying pretty hard. On a side note do you think she really believes she in touch with what real people want?

57+ million say so. And don't tell me all those people were voting for McCain only... They lost because of McCain, not Palin.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 20, 2008, 09:01:35 PM
Well if her political career doesn't work out, she could slide right into the main role in Fargo II
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: jesusbod on November 20, 2008, 09:02:39 PM
Jesus, it took me a minute to figure out how the hell that thing was working, looks like it decapitates them and bleeds em out and they sit in the funnel while their body twitches instead of flopping around all over the place.

you would think there would be some more efficient way to do this sort of thing these days, I thought they shocked them or something, that was pretty draconian but hey, its the poultry industry and a dirty job.

peta folks are gonna love that one, she just sets herself up over and over again, that shrill voice of hers is like nails on a chalkboard... I know there is speculation going on that they are working on polishing her up and get her positioned in a higher office in the coming years, I hope most people will be able to see through the absurdity, its like one of those shitty movies where they take some high school misfit and turn her into the most popular girl in the school, they seem to hope that storybook theme will carry over in real life I guess...



Honestly, I would take her shrill voice and McCain's "my friends" everyday than listen to Obama's lies about his whole associations with really bad people.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: gcb on November 20, 2008, 09:09:06 PM
Honestly, I would take her shrill voice and McCain's "my friends" everyday than listen to Obama's lies about his whole associations with really bad people.

Yes it's true. Obama's been talking to Bush so he has been talking to really bad people. We can't trust a word he says  ::)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: nycbull on November 20, 2008, 09:23:21 PM
Jesus, it took me a minute to figure out how the hell that thing was working, looks like it decapitates them and bleeds em out and they sit in the funnel while their body twitches instead of flopping around all over the place.

you would think there would be some more efficient way to do this sort of thing these days, I thought they shocked them or something, that was pretty draconian but hey, its the poultry industry and a dirty job.

peta folks are gonna love that one, she just sets herself up over and over again, that shrill voice of hers is like nails on a chalkboard... I know there is speculation going on that they are working on polishing her up and get her positioned in a higher office in the coming years, I hope most people will be able to see through the absurdity, its like one of those shitty movies where they take some high school misfit and turn her into the most popular girl in the school, they seem to hope that storybook theme will carry over in real life I guess...



they can shock them, there are humane guidlines (no laws), but you cant expect poultry workers to have any brains, many do not even have a highschool education. They do the same to cows, only problem is they just slit the cows throats, so the animals are still conscience as they bleed out. They are supposed to be stunned first, but do you really think they even bother? 

Worst part is they kill these animals very close to the other animals. So the penned up animals know whats coming, they smell the blood and the hear the panic from the animals being killed.

YOu can choose to eat meat from humane farmers, organic, free range etc etc. they are out there...It isnt convenient I know and Im not preaching , just stating some facts thats all.

Palin is desensitized to animal suffering cause she is  a hunter. I find those people are usually less sensitve to human suffering. I cant trust a person like that, no wonder she was a shitty Mom...sorry.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: The True Adonis on November 20, 2008, 09:26:44 PM
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 20, 2008, 09:35:33 PM
she can't stop screwing things up.  I mean, wouldn't anyone have the judgment to not stand in front of turkerys being fed to a grinder? 

She's either that desensitized to flesh shredding (WTF, mate?) or that oblivious to her surroundings.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA True
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 20, 2008, 09:37:43 PM


If you want quality protein those birds have to die, you can deny it but it won't bring them back to life.

Talk about media bias.


I do agree it's not the best choice but if that's your reaction why didn't you react like this when Obama repeated any words his Rev said..."god damn America, kill whitey!"   ::) Seems much more disturbing than her standing there in a tour in a farm  ;)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 20, 2008, 09:57:28 PM
He never said kill whitey and nobody ever produced the tape which means it was bullshit from the start.  I totally don't get how bad interview choice in front of slaughter equals Rev Wright.  bizarre thinking but ok, whatever...

It doesn't equal it's much worse.

Let's see, someone who he called his close friend and mentor (for 20 years)...and after the tapes released he denounced  ::) ::)

VS

While being followed at a trip to a farm choosing a bad location to get interviewed.



Come on now Hugo repeat after Rev and sing alone with your president...God Damn Amerikkka!!  ::)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 20, 2008, 10:06:35 PM
It doesn't equal it's much worse.

Let's see, someone who he called his close friend and mentor (for 20 years)...and after the tapes released he denounced  ::) ::)

VS

While being followed at a trip to a farm choosing a bad location to get interviewed.



Come on now Hugo repeat after Rev and sing alone with your president...God Damn Amerikkka!!  ::)



Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 20, 2008, 10:13:11 PM
I think you're taking it out of context to suit yourself.  See the thread where we all talked about this issue with the full context presented if you want my full opinion.

Saying people can't call this interview stupid because we didn't side with you over the Rev issue is... stupid.

Talking about out of context, I'm pointing out your obvious double standards and sheep like following of Obama.

I said it was a poor choice of her part, but it might be a simple mistake.

On the other hand, going to the same place and following the teaching of a self proclaimed America hater is on another level....yet....it went by you all so quietly.

You can try to duck and dodge but it won't help, if McCain minister was saying something like that you wouldn't let us forget it in any post you make.

Double standards...it's the democratic way  :-*
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on November 20, 2008, 10:21:54 PM
Haha this is one fucking STUPID ASS BITCH!  I mean what a MORON!  Does she not realize that most Americans have no idea how their food is processed and would rather NOT know.  She's so out of touch!  LOL.  And that's pretty fucking sad the way we slaughter animals in this world.  Pigs and cows have it way worse.  Go read Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser!  It will open up your eyes!  That guy killing the turkeys probably goes home and diddles his daughter every night.  Bunch of fucking backwood inbreds.  They should kill the turkeys out of sight of the other animals. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 24KT on November 20, 2008, 11:12:05 PM
zero saavy to stand in front of that for an interview.

this is like a bad SNL skit.

I was thinking the same thing. My Goodness, she certainly is a PR disaster waiting to happen.
The first rule of interviewing is make sure YOUR message is the only focus. Having that guy in the background was stupid. Having in the background slaughtering turkeys was beyond stupid. Who remembers a darn thing she said? ...the only thing we do remember from that is the guy in the background killing birds.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: tu_holmes on November 20, 2008, 11:23:36 PM
57+ million say so. And don't tell me all those people were voting for McCain only... They lost because of McCain, not Palin.

Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 21, 2008, 03:21:21 AM
dig up one of your past posts where you were critical of McCain on something.  Let's see who is more sheeple ;)


Wow such a weak argument, lets for the argument sake assume that I am...so that means you have to be too?  ::)

Go back to chanting "god damn Amerikkka" you are a hopeless imbecile.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 21, 2008, 06:36:59 AM
Still can't grasp that she'll be the next Pres?

The only thing without a grasp is your grip on reality if you even think she will make it out of the Repub primaries.

Then again, as stupid as you are, you probably do believe so. 

Birds of a feather..... get shredded together.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 06:44:24 AM
God she's dumb.



And how do you think the turkey you are going to eat on Thanksgiving got there??

You people are pathetic. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 06:48:06 AM
are you not aware she is utterly stupid?

how could anyone vote for her regardless of their affiliation. Jesus grow some brains.

God forbid people see how their food gets to their damn table right???????????

I actually like things not being sanitized for once and all gift wrapped like our American Idol president.

Grow up you panzies or go hunt and kill the turkey yourself.

Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 21, 2008, 06:52:00 AM
God forbid people see how their food gets to their damn table right???????????

I actually like things not being sanitized for once and all gift wrapped like our American Idol president.

Grow up you panzies or go hunt and kill the turkey yourself.



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Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 21, 2008, 07:00:12 AM
God forbid people see how their food gets to their damn table right???????????

I actually like things not being sanitized for once and all gift wrapped like our American Idol president.

Grow up you panzies or go hunt and kill the turkey yourself.



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Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 07:08:46 AM
Here are some of your buddies at work(CAUTION FOR ANYONE WITH A HEART!!!)




Unless you are a vegan and dont eat meat chicken or fish, STFU and stop living in your little fantasy world as to how food gets on your plate.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 21, 2008, 07:10:50 AM
Not sure why she agreed to do a public interview in front of the turkey slaughtering either.  These are facts of life and how we get turkeys but I don't see how this is a good move for her.  She doesn't seem to be helping herself much.  Perhaps the culture of Alaskans is significantly different than most of the mainland 48....so, she should stay and continue to be a good gov of alaska.  There are more experienced people in the republican party on a federal level.  Tim Pawlenty comes to mind, as does Mitt Romney.  So does this black conservative I heard the other day, can't remember his name but he was former military and just ran for the senate.  Lt. Colonel I believe.  Impressive guy.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 21, 2008, 07:22:41 AM
Unless you are a vegan and dont eat meat chicken or fish, STFU and stop living in your little fantasy world as to how food gets on your plate.


I don't eat torchered souls...If your a meat eater, there is no reason why one can't find organic, grass feed animals to eat that have been killed in a humane way...

Ask just about anyone how turkeys are killed and I would bet 999 out of the 1000 would say they are beheaded...Not fuking grinded up in a grinder while still living...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 07:30:36 AM
Not sure why she agreed to do a public interview in front of the turkey slaughtering either.  These are facts of life and how we get turkeys but I don't see how this is a good move for her.  She doesn't seem to be helping herself much.  Perhaps the culture of Alaskans are significantly different than most of the mainland 48....so, she should stay and continue to be a good gov of alaska.  There are better experienced people in the republican party.  Tim Pawlenty comes to mind, as does Mitt Romney.  So does this black conservative I heard the other day, can't remember his name but he was former military and just ran for the senate.  Lt. Colonel I believe.  Impressive guy.


I have come to the conclusion that Sarah Palin is too decent and real of a person for her to try to go to DC.  She is not into the sanitized version of how things happen like many people want in their politicians, sadly.  People want to be lied to and want to believe in fairy tales.    

The evidence of this are the wash women and teenage girls on this board who are more concerned with phony issues and red herrings than real issues.  Again, god forbid people see where their food comes from.  The fools on this board have no problem showing the Saddam Hussein execution tape, but have aproblem with a politician doing an interview in a food processing plant that provides food for people to eat and survive????      

How do you fools think your food gets to your table or are you all that ignorant to this too????  
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 07:31:41 AM

I don't eat torchered souls...If your a meat eater, there is no reason why one can't find organic, grass feed animals to eat that have been killed in a humane way...

Ask just about anyone how turkeys are killed and I would bet 999 out of the 1000 would say they are beheaded...Not fuking grinded up in a grinder while still living...

so what do you do when you go out to a restuarant??????????
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 21, 2008, 07:35:49 AM
Your right bro, but it still doesn't help her if her intent is to continue with federal politics.

You said something that resonated with me...through all her alaskan quirks and her lack of federal gov experience, there was still something I liked about her....she is decent.  Your right, thats it.  I think she is a good decent American...something lacking in federal politics on both sides these days.  I still don't think she is qualified to be VP but I suppose I would take a decent person who is a quick study over someone I don't trust, regardless of experience.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Necrosis on November 21, 2008, 07:36:33 AM

I have come to the conclusion that Sarah Palin is too decent and real of a person for her to try to go to DC.  She is not into the sanitized version of how things happen like many people want in their politicians, sadly.  People want to be lied to and want to believe in fairy tales.    

The evidence of this are the wash women and teenage girls on this board who are more concerned with phony issues and red herrings than real issues.  Again, god forbid people see where their food comes from.  The fools on this board have no problem showing the Saddam Hussein execution tape, but have aproblem with a politician doing an interview in a food processing plant that provides food for people to eat and survive????      

How do you fools think your food gets to your table or are you all that ignorant to this too????  

you are missing the point, why conduct an interview in front of animal slaughter, it shows no class.


If you think she is the best of the best i feel bad for you.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 07:42:50 AM
you are missing the point, why conduct an interview in front of animal slaughter, it shows no class.


If you think she is the best of the best i feel bad for you.

I did not say she is the best of the best, the same way ZERO and Biden are not.

What i said was that I have no problem with a politician doing an interview in a food processing plant that makes food for people to eat.  This is a real life business that produces food to keep people fed.

The owner of this plant has done far more for people than ZERO ever has.

Again, do you wash women not want to know how your food gets to your table?

Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Decker on November 21, 2008, 07:44:19 AM
57+ million say so. And don't tell me all those people were voting for McCain only... They lost because of McCain, not Palin.
I think you guys are on the mark with Palin.  She has potential.  But I think this guy is a bit more in tune with republican values and should be given serious consideration for the presidency:
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Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Necrosis on November 21, 2008, 07:48:26 AM
I did not say she is the best of the best, the same way ZERO and Biden are not.

What i said was that I have no problem with a politician doing an interview in a food processing plant that makes food for people to eat.  This is a real life business that produces food to keep people fed.

The owner of this plant has done far more for people than ZERO ever has.

Again, do you wash women not want to know how your food gets to your table?



i know how my food gets to the table. Again not the point, why conduct an inteview in front of animal sluaghter? Its ridiculous, the slaughter has nothing to do with what she is discussing and is distracting. Totally unprofessional.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 21, 2008, 07:49:29 AM
I did not say she is the best of the best, the same way ZERO and Biden are not.

What i said was that I have no problem with a politician doing an interview in a food processing plant that makes food for people to eat.  This is a real life business that produces food to keep people fed.

The owner of this plant has done far more for people than ZERO ever has.

Again, do you wash women not want to know how your food gets to your table?



To be honest, Palin doing something like this is good for our overall consciousness...It opens people's eyes on how some things are done...People have to see shit like this to have change implemented...Again the problem isn't so much of killing animals as it is to how they are killed...Seeing a live turkey go into a grinder while the guy holding the turkey is basically laughing is pretty fcking sinister to watch...And without a doubt unnecessary...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 07:54:42 AM
To be honest, Palin doing something like this is good for our overall consciousness...It opens people's eyes on how some things are done...People have to see shit like this to have change implemented...Again the problem isn't so much of killing animals as it is to how they are killed...Seeing a live turkey go into a grinder while the guy holding the turkey is basically laughing is pretty fcking sinister to watch...And without a doubt unnecessary...

You make a good point.  I do not enjoy watching this stuff, but i am glad it is shown so that people at least know WTF is going on and are not under some presumption of how things work and get done, as ugly as it might be.

I think Sarah Palin is too real a person to be in DC.  You may disagree with her on everything, but i dont think you can say she is a phony or a snake about who she is and what she believes in.

She lives what she believes and I think that is very refreshing for once.   
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2008, 08:21:42 AM
I did not say she is the best of the best,

Exactly.

We WANT the best possible Dem and Repub to run in the election.

We WANT a Romney or a Newt or whoever is the brightest, most experienced, most shrewd person, running on BOTH sides of the aisle.

This way, no matter who wins the election, AMERICA WINS.

Mccain said Palin was the most qualified person in America to be VP - do you think he was correct, 333386?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: shootfighter1 on November 21, 2008, 08:23:30 AM
Agreed.

And agree on the necessity of humane animal killing.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Dan-O on November 21, 2008, 08:37:47 AM
I gathered from Palin's comments during the interview that the whole setup was supposed to be kind of a tongue-in-cheek joke, an attempt at some light-hearted humor.

I do agree that Sarah is a decent, intelligent person who is willing to step up and serve her country and I think she could do a lot of good with a little more experience and polishing.  But, having said that...  this particular joke kinda fell flat IMO.  The retard doing the slaughtering and turning around to watch the interview was probably the funniest thing about it. :D
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2008, 08:55:27 AM
nobody's arguing the reality that turkeys are killed.

we also do unpleasant things like amputations, enemas, animal skinning, and sewer cleaning here in america.

should politicians do interviews in front of those things too?


This was a hilarious, bizarre filming.  Brilliant camera work.  The turkey buzzer looking at Palin while shredding a turkey head while she's talking, just hilarious.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 09:06:59 AM
Of course not.  I like Palin better than McCain to tell you the complete truth, even with her flaws.  She is not tainted like McCain.   

Likewise, I seriously doubt obama is the best the Dems have to offer either and dont think Biden is anything other than a hack politican who got picked because he is a white male.  obama is only the president now because he is black.

If a white guy with the same credentials named Barry O'bamally from Boston were running, we would be discussing President Hillary Clinton and everyone knows it. 

 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: tu_holmes on November 21, 2008, 09:08:08 AM
Of course not.  I like Palin better than McCain to tell you the complete truth, even with her flaws.  She is not tainted like McCain.   

Likewise, I seriously doubt obama is the best the Dems have to offer either and dont think Biden is anything other than a hack politican who got picked because he is a white male.  obama is only the president now because he is black.

If a white guy with the same credentials named Barry O'bamally from Boston were running, we would be discussing President Hillary Clinton and everyone knows it. 

 

Maybe, but aren't black people like 13% of the US population?

How does 13% of the population get to pick the President?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 09:09:54 AM
Maybe, but aren't black people like 13% of the US population?

How does 13% of the population get to pick the President?

Obama stood out because of his race and got tons of media attention, fawning, and kid gloves treatment.

Geraldine Ferraro was hammered for pointing this out. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: tu_holmes on November 21, 2008, 09:17:28 AM
Obama stood out because of his race and got tons of media attention, fawning, and kid gloves treatment.

Geraldine Ferraro was hammered for pointing this out. 

If you say so... I didn't notice that... Seemed like every time I turned around it was a Reverend Write this... He's a socialist that... He pals around with Terrorists kinda thing.

Instead of McCain being able to show where his policies were better (He got the "low tax vote" I hear) he started beating up the guys friends... That's apparently not how you win elections or influence people.

People get tired of hearing shit like that... Apparently McCain forgot that.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 09:19:28 AM
If you say so... I didn't notice that... Seemed like every time I turned around it was a Reverend Write this... He's a socialist that... He pals around with Terrorists kinda thing.

Instead of McCain being able to show where his policies were better (He got the "low tax vote" I hear) he started beating up the guys friends... That's apparently not how you win elections or influence people.

People get tired of hearing shit like that... Apparently McCain forgot that.

That's because they both agreed on a lot of issues.  McCain was the worst possible choice.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Straw Man on November 21, 2008, 09:25:11 AM
Does anyone know what that guy is doing with that turkey.

He's obviously killing it but he's not "grinding" it.

It doesn't even look like they chopped off the head.

Mabye it get's suffocated in that device or the put something through it's skull
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 21, 2008, 09:28:16 AM
Does anyone know what that guy is doing with that turkey.

He's obviously killing it but he's not "grinding" it.

It doesn't even look like they chopped off the head.

Mabye it get's suffocated in that device or the put something through it's skull

I don't know but he has a big ass smile on his face while doing it...Whats worse is he is doing it in plain view of all the other turkeys...
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 21, 2008, 09:49:44 AM
P'wnd ;)  pretty pathetic cop out.  You're post doesn't even relate.  You said in your post that I had a sheep like following of Obama.  In the post I quoted above, I'm calling for people not to have blind faith in Obama and oppose bad ideas.  Case closed, you lose :D

Calling for people to do something and then doing something else means nothing, you're just like your leader, says this does that.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: The Coach on November 21, 2008, 10:16:20 AM
God she's dumb.



Actually dumb is looking for a hypoallergenic dog for your kid and making it public........when there is no such thing.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: MRDUMPLING on November 21, 2008, 10:28:49 AM
I'd still do her...even with turkeys in the background.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 21, 2008, 10:33:10 AM
this is so funny it cant even be real. the guy keeps turning around and staring at the camera as he feeds the turkeys into the grinder AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

and predictably we have Ifbbwannabe and 33636337373 come in shouting 'where do you think your food comes from' , totally missing the point as usual, then reverting back to, you guessed it, revered wright ;D
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 10:37:11 AM
Liberals always prefer movie sets and props like the Denver stadium speeches with re foam columns to adorn their new god.

Was it smart to have this happen in the background?  Obviously not.

However, the way you guys hyperventilate every time she even says a word or takes a breath is no different than old yentas and wash women.  Its far more embarassing than this interview to see grown adults act like little high school teenage girls over something like this.

Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 21, 2008, 10:47:09 AM
Liberals always prefer movie sets and props like the Denver stadium speeches with re foam columns to adorn their new god.

Was it smart to have this happen in the background?  Obviously not.

However, the way you guys hyperventilate every time she even says a word or takes a breath is no different than old yentas and wash women.  Its far more embarassing than this interview to see grown adults act like little high school teenage girls over something like this.



ok look man. we all know this is where our food comes from. but thats besides the point. ok? the point is, is that its a remarkably stupid decision, unfathomably, incredibly dumb mistake for her staff/descision makers/hell her herself to not recognize how silly it would look for their candidate-who has already been characterized as a backwoods, out of touch hillbilly type, no less- to stand there, of all places, directly in front of a guy slaughtering live turkeys in a machine while shes holding her little starbucks cup talking about her political campaign...a better parody could not have been scripted. you do not allow things like this to happen while running a campaign, i could go on and on but this might be going over your head. of course everybody knows where their food comes from; what people are laughing at is the remarkable incompetence of her campaign 'people' as well as palin herself to allow something like this to happen, something which plays right into the hands of every single critique levied against her.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2008, 10:53:47 AM
ok look man. we all know this is where our food comes from. but thats besides the point. ok? the point is, is that its a remarkably stupid decision, unfathomably, incredibly dumb mistake for her staff/descision makers/hell her herself to not recognize how silly it would look for their candidate-who has already been characterized as a backwoods, out of touch hillbilly type, no less- to stand there, of all places, directly in front of a guy slaughtering live turkeys in a machine while shes holding her little starbucks cup talking about her political campaign...a better parody could not have been scripted. you do not allow things like this to happen while running a campaign, i could go on and on but this might be going over your head. of course everybody knows where their food comes from; what people are laughing at is the remarkable incompetence of her campaign 'people' as well as palin herself to allow something like this to happen, something which plays right into the hands of every single critique levied against her.

Bingo.

She doesn't have political saavy, or the intelligence to recognize when to say/do things, and when not to.

If she's so naive to french prank callers who compliment her porno work (to which she THANKED THEM) and with turkey carcasses, maybe it's clear she isn't the best bet to say, run our nation?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 10:57:49 AM
Bingo.

She doesn't have political saavy, or the intelligence to recognize when to say/do things, and when not to.

If she's so naive to french prank callers who compliment her porno work (to which she THANKED THEM) and with turkey carcasses, maybe it's clear she isn't the best bet to say, run our nation?

Im not disagreeing with you. 

However, this insane obsession with destroying this women and mocking everything she does, every word, every step, anything whatsoever is really ugly and nasty. 

She is a decent person whatever you may think about her politics and does not deserve the amount of hatred and ugliness thrown at her. 



Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Deedee on November 21, 2008, 11:04:51 AM
Actually dumb is looking for a hypoallergenic dog for your kid and making it public........when there is no such thing.

Poodles and schnauzers are considered hypoallergenic because they have hair rather than fur. Someone in the family is obviously allergic to fur.

Does anyone know what that guy is doing with that turkey.

He's obviously killing it but he's not "grinding" it.

It doesn't even look like they chopped off the head.

Mabye it get's suffocated in that device or the put something through it's skull

The turkey is beheaded. The cone device is used to bleed the turkey. The last few heart pumps help drain the blood into that trough (which is filled with blood in the vid).  That's why the nice man was holding them there so long... aside from being rapt at what Palin was saying.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Dan-O on November 21, 2008, 11:05:07 AM
ok look man. we all know this is where our food comes from. but thats besides the point. ok? the point is, is that its a remarkably stupid decision, unfathomably, incredibly dumb mistake for her staff/descision makers/hell her herself to not recognize how silly it would look for their candidate-who has already been characterized as a backwoods, out of touch hillbilly type, no less- to stand there, of all places, directly in front of a guy slaughtering live turkeys in a machine while shes holding her little starbucks cup talking about her political campaign...a better parody could not have been scripted. you do not allow things like this to happen while running a campaign, i could go on and on but this might be going over your head. of course everybody knows where their food comes from; what people are laughing at is the remarkable incompetence of her campaign 'people' as well as palin herself to allow something like this to happen, something which plays right into the hands of every single critique levied against her.

Again--I really think the entire setup was deliberate and meant to be funny in a kind of self-parodying way.

Unfortunately I also think Palin and the TV crew (whoever set it up) vastly overestimated the sense of humor of the American public.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Mark Kerr on November 21, 2008, 11:07:51 AM
Still can't grasp that she'll be the next Pres? This is obviously a thread created by a lib and it's responses are from libs. Get a grip libs, your buddy Obama is media made and a total marketing ploy and gimmick by his handelers. He has less experiance than most in a high school government class, hahahahaha! And please don't get me started on Biden (and palosi, Reid, Kerry, Emmanuel and the rest of the "12%" approval rating bunch. They own themselves on a daily basis.

Coach,

The days of the "neoconservative" are over. The neocons have fvcked this country up with their beliefs and ideals. You know this but yet you continue to post neoconserative propaganda. The country spoke up on November 4th and now the libs are left with straighting out the mess the neocons have created. Although, I do hope Sarah Palin stays in the press. I need a good laugh every once in awhile, she is dumber than a box of nails.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Straw Man on November 21, 2008, 11:11:37 AM
Poodles and schnauzers are considered hypoallergenic because they have hair rather than fur. Someone in the family is obviously allergic to fur.

The turkey is beheaded. The cone device is used to bleed the turkey. The last few heart pumps help drain the blood into that trough (which is filled with blood in the vid).  That's why the nice man was holding them there so long... aside from being rapt at what Palin was saying.

I thought that too but it looks like the head is still there when he pulls it out
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Deedee on November 21, 2008, 11:22:58 AM
I thought that too but it looks like the head is still there when he pulls it out

It's hard to tell, but you can see when he lifts the second turkey into the cone, how he leans under to cut its neck in two places. Here's a better view if you can stomach it.  :P





Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Straw Man on November 21, 2008, 11:31:24 AM
It's hard to tell, but you can see when he lifts the second turkey into the cone, how he leans under to cut its neck in two places. Here's a better view if you can stomach it.  :P




uh...thanks?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 21, 2008, 11:34:38 AM
Im not disagreeing with you. 

However, this insane obsession with destroying this women and mocking everything she does, every word, every step, anything whatsoever is really ugly and nasty. 

She is a decent person whatever you may think about her politics and does not deserve the amount of hatred and ugliness thrown at her. 


how do you know? do you know her in real life? how do you know its not just an act like you say it is with obama?
and as far as the amount of ownage directed her way, she has brought it all on herself. this video is just the latest proof of that. someone who gives people this much fodder to work with is going to get nailed left and right.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 11:43:57 AM
Obama seems like personally a decent person, but the people he has decided to make his closest friends definately are not.  Everyone who he has surrounded himself with have a deeply troubling past whether they be America haters (Rev. Wright, Odinga, Rashid Khalidi and Farakhan), terrorists (Ayers & Dohrn), embezzlers (Rezko).

Sarah Palin has been put through a meat grinder and name one thing that has come out against her to show she is not a decent person?????  One thing???????
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Deedee on November 21, 2008, 11:51:37 AM
uh...thanks?

Happy Thanksgiving.  :)


Sarah Palin has been put through a meat grinder and name one thing that has come out against her to show she is not a decent person?????  One thing???????


The whole Palin/Thomas Muthee thing, and his association with child witch hunting in Kenya is pretty disgusting no matter how you look at it. No American could possibly approve of asking someone like him for blessings, Christian fundie or otherwise. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 12:05:06 PM
Happy Thanksgiving.  :)

The whole Palin/Thomas Muthee thing, and his association with child witch hunting in Kenya is pretty disgusting no matter how you look at it. No American could possibly approve of asking someone like him for blessings, Christian fundie or otherwise. 

Amazing, you liberals care more about someone who visited her church ONCE than the fact that Obama spent 20 years going to the same racist church.  I get it. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Deedee on November 21, 2008, 12:10:58 PM
Amazing, you liberals care more about someone who visited her church ONCE than the fact that Obama spent 20 years going to the same racist church.  I get it. 

More than once, and yes, anyone who kneels in front of a murdering witch hunter and thinks his voodoo blessing will somehow empower her is way more wacked than someone who goes to a racist church. What makes you think I'm a lib? Plenty of conservatives think she's an imbecile of the highest order.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Deicide on November 21, 2008, 12:13:03 PM
More than once, and yes, anyone who kneels in front of a murdering witch hunter and thinks his voodoo blessing will somehow empower her is way more wacked than someone who goes to a racist church. What makes you think I'm a lib? Plenty of conservatives think she's an imbecile of the highest order.

Du hast mir gefehlt.  :-*
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Straw Man on November 21, 2008, 12:32:31 PM
Happy Thanksgiving.  :)


Thanks - seeing those turkeys won't slow me down one bit.  Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday - totally non-secular, lot's of good food and time with my family who I don't normally see during the year.  I can't wait.  The only part that sucks is traveling but at least I'm going to Austin this time rather than Dallas (blegh!)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2008, 12:47:57 PM
Im not disagreeing with you. 

However, this insane obsession with destroying this women and mocking everything she does, every word, every step, anything whatsoever is really ugly and nasty. 

She is a decent person whatever you may think about her politics and does not deserve the amount of hatred and ugliness thrown at her. 

I voted repub my whole life - 96, 98, 00, 02, 04, and 06... straight ticket with the exception of some local issues that don't have a party slant.

I saw this religious zealot palin as a pathetic choice.  Romney/Rudy were lifetime libs who changed their spots in 2007 to get the nomination.  Mccain was awesome in 2000 but sucked in 2007/8.

I, like many republicans, saw my party candidates as pathetic, and taking the party in a horrible direction.  This fearmongering they used thru the campaign was pathetic.  Palin was the face of this angry hatred.  Ignorant in interviews, yet screaming "palling around with terrorists" at a man who had served his country for 15+ years (obama) while she was being a housewife living off Big Oil's tit at home.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on November 21, 2008, 12:59:31 PM
3333...........You're a fucking idiot.  You don't know fuck all about animals, farming, or the law.  We have fucking LAWS in this country..............Ame rica is a country of laws fuckstick...........that are in place to prevent cruel and inhumane animal slaughter.  It has nothing to do with not understanding where food comes from.  It has to do with doing things the RIGHT way and doing things the WRONG way.  You're a fucking piece of shit human being if you can sit there and watch that fucking video without being sick to your stomach. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 01:07:04 PM
3333...........You're a fucking idiot.  You don't know fuck all about animals, farming, or the law.  We have fucking LAWS in this country..............Ame rica is a country of laws fuckstick...........that are in place to prevent cruel and inhumane animal slaughter.  It has nothing to do with not understanding where food comes from.  It has to do with doing things the RIGHT way and doing things the WRONG way.  You're a fucking piece of shit human being if you can sit there and watch that fucking video without being sick to your stomach. 

Ok.  Dont eat turkey on thanksgiving if you feel that strongly about it.  While your at it, dont eat hamburger, steak, or beef because you probably would object to how they kill those animals too.   Did I mention chickens?????  Oh - how about shark steaks??????

You clowns and fools who want to be divorced from the ugliness behind many aspects of life are choosing to remain ignorant about how food comes to your plate.  Do I like watchingt that? No.  However, I am not naive and ignorant to how many things happen in this world like you obviously are.   

As far as the law - I have a law practice and another business going, so go back to your dorm room and jerk yourself off again to Olbermann. 

Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 01:09:34 PM
I voted repub my whole life - 96, 98, 00, 02, 04, and 06... straight ticket with the exception of some local issues that don't have a party slant.

I saw this religious zealot palin as a pathetic choice.  Romney/Rudy were lifetime libs who changed their spots in 2007 to get the nomination.  Mccain was awesome in 2000 but sucked in 2007/8.

I, like many republicans, saw my party candidates as pathetic, and taking the party in a horrible direction.  This fearmongering they used thru the campaign was pathetic.  Palin was the face of this angry hatred.  Ignorant in interviews, yet screaming "palling around with terrorists" at a man who had served his country for 15+ years (obama) while she was being a housewife living off Big Oil's tit at home.

I did not say she was the best, or even 2nd, third or fourth, however, this constant bashing, trashing, and double standard that is applied to her is really stupid.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Mark Kerr on November 21, 2008, 01:13:10 PM
I voted repub my whole life - 96, 98, 00, 02, 04, and 06... straight ticket with the exception of some local issues that don't have a party slant.

I saw this religious zealot palin as a pathetic choice.  Romney/Rudy were lifetime libs who changed their spots in 2007 to get the nomination.  Mccain was awesome in 2000 but sucked in 2007/8.

I, like many republicans, saw my party candidates as pathetic, and taking the party in a horrible direction.  This fearmongering they used thru the campaign was pathetic.  Palin was the face of this angry hatred.  Ignorant in interviews, yet screaming "palling around with terrorists" at a man who had served his country for 15+ years (obama) while she was being a housewife living off Big Oil's tit at home.

Romney was never a lib.

The guy is Mormon. Mitt is an old school Conservative.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Necrosis on November 21, 2008, 01:14:44 PM
Poodles and schnauzers are considered hypoallergenic because they have hair rather than fur. Someone in the family is obviously allergic to fur.




HAHAHAHA joeloco ownd again, is he ever correct on anything?

joe do you know anything?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Necrosis on November 21, 2008, 01:24:46 PM
I did not say she was the best, or even 2nd, third or fourth, however, this constant bashing, trashing, and double standard that is applied to her is really stupid.

what? everything that has been leveled against her is by her own doing, like this video.

She is stupid, not even close to fit to run for president of the united states, how cant you see this. the prank call, the couric inteview, the magazine question, this video etc etc etc...

clearly not the brightest. Nothing but the cream of the crop should be viable for election. You let smart people research, do medicine and engineering but when it comes to running the country this moron with an 100 iq could be in the running? ridiculous. Let the smart people run the nation like they run everything else.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2008, 01:32:39 PM
what? everything that has been leveled against her is by her own doing, like this video.

She is stupid, not even close to fit to run for president of the united states, how cant you see this. the prank call, the couric inteview, the magazine question, this video etc etc etc...

clearly not the brightest. Nothing but the cream of the crop should be viable for election. You let smart people research, do medicine and engineering but when it comes to running the country this moron with an 100 iq could be in the running? ridiculous. Let the smart people run the nation like they run everything else.

If ZERO were given the same scrutiny as she has gotten, he would be mocked as well. 

Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: bears on November 21, 2008, 02:01:48 PM
what? everything that has been leveled against her is by her own doing, like this video.

She is stupid, not even close to fit to run for president of the united states, how cant you see this. the prank call, the couric inteview, the magazine question, this video etc etc etc...

clearly not the brightest. Nothing but the cream of the crop should be viable for election. You let smart people research, do medicine and engineering but when it comes to running the country this moron with an 100 iq could be in the running? ridiculous. Let the smart people run the nation like they run everything else.

do you believe everything that partisan political pundits say on tv?  is there a little spoon that comes out from the tv and gets poured ever so gently into your head?  the media did what they wanted to with her.  was she a great vp candidate?  no.  but was the media overwhelmingly biased against her?  yes absolutely. 

did i vote for her?  no.  i dont think she was qualified.  but do i think she is stupid?  lol.  no i dont.  if you ever want people with at least a little bit of intelligence to take you seriously,  quit attacking a woman for trying her best in a lose lose situation.  go spew your hatred somewhere else.  i sense that most people who exhibit this type of hatred for a person that they've never met have something missing in their life. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Colossus_500 on November 21, 2008, 04:38:45 PM
God she's video still caption: "people who post stuff like this are pitiful"


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Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: tu_holmes on November 21, 2008, 05:39:11 PM
Actually dumb is looking for a hypoallergenic dog for your kid and making it public........when there is no such thing.

That's not true... A Bichon Frise doesn't shed and has hair like a human.

It's not "fur".

It is hypoallergenic in every sense.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 24KT on November 21, 2008, 06:52:00 PM
Actually dumb is looking for a hypoallergenic dog for your kid and making it public........when there is no such thing.

Joe, ...they're simply looking for a dog that will not trigger their daughter's allergy. What's so stupid about that?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 21, 2008, 08:01:16 PM
Joe, ...they're simply looking for a dog that will not trigger their daughter's allergy. What's so stupid about that?

Considering the source of the input... stupid is as stupid does.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: The Coach on November 21, 2008, 08:50:14 PM
Poodles and schnauzers are considered hypoallergenic because they have hair rather than fur. Someone in the family is obviously allergic to fur.



No such thing. Allergies don't come from the fur or hair but rather skin and saliva.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: The Coach on November 21, 2008, 08:55:50 PM

HAHAHAHA joeloco ownd again, is he ever correct on anything?

joe do you know anything?


Owned again numbnuts, Busted, when will you even learn......



Obama Family Wants a Dog That Won't Trigger Dog Allergy in Daughter; What Are Their Options?
By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Health NewsReviewed by Brunilda Nazario, MDNov. 12, 2008 -- Hypoallergenic dogs have gotten a lot of buzz lately as the Obama family searches for a dog to bring with them to the White House -- without triggering dog allergies in older Obama daughter, Malia.

A quick glance at the Internet shows lots of web sites devoted to "hypoallergenic dogs" and "hypoallergenic dog breeds." But no dog may be free of potential allergens, cautions allergy and asthma expert Corinna Bowser, MD, of Havertown, Pa.

WebMD talked with Bowser about hypoallergenic dogs and dog allergies -- and what the Obamas might consider to help avoid triggering Malia's dog allergy.

(How do pets and allergy sufferers co-exist in your home? Share your suggestions on WebMD's Allergy Support Group message board.)

Is there such a thing as a hypoallergenic dog?
"I don't think there is such a thing as a hypoallergenic dog," Bowser tells WebMD.

She explains that the major allergen in dogs is a protein found in dog serum, and dogs excrete that allergen in sweat and shed it from their skin. "It also gets secreted into the saliva, and possibly a little bit in the urine," Bowser says.

Since all dogs have that protein, no dog is completely allergy-free, according to Bowser.

Karl Jandrey, DVM, an assistant professor at the University of California, Davis' School of Veterinary Medicine, agrees with Bowser. "There really is no truly allergy-free dog," Jandrey tells WebMD via email. But Jandrey also notes that "low-allergen" dog breeds may include poodle, bichon frise, and Maltese.

What about dog breeds?
Bowser says she didn't find much evidence in medical literature about dog breeds being better or worse for allergies.

But she did find a German study, published this year, that tracked allergies among people exposed to various dog breeds. "They said factors related to individual dogs seem to influence the allergenicity more than breed or gender, which I thought was interesting," says Bowser.

In other words, it was a dog-by-dog issue more than a breed-by-breed issue in that particular study, which Bowser says is the only one she found that involved specialized allergy tests.

Jandrey agrees that "some people who have been allergic to one dog may be less allergic to other dog breeds or individual [dogs] within the same breed."

Does the dog's size or hair length matter?
"The size of dog could matter in terms of the overall amount of allergen," with smaller dogs contributing less allergen, says Bowser.

"Hair length could have something to do with how it spreads in the house," Bowser says. She explains that shorter dog hairs may not stick as much as long hair to furniture, clothes, and other surfaces, "so maybe the allergen does not stick as much, but the amount of allergen should be the same."

What about dogs with no hair? "Hairless animals have a lower allergenicity but the dander from the skin can still pose a problem for anyone sensitive to it," Jandrey says.




Obama Family Wants a Dog That Won't Trigger Dog Allergy in Daughter; What Are Their Options?(continued)
So are all dogs off limits to the Obamas?
Bowser has no ties to the Obamas, but she says that "if this was my patient ... I would say it's probably better not to get a dog."

"Of course, now he [Obama] made the promise and he kind of has to," she says. So Bowser recommends doing two things before bringing a puppy home: Dog-sit and see how Malia's allergies fare, and set some rules about how they'll handle any allergy issues.

"What we tell our patients is draw an imaginary line in the sand. If the child has an ER visit for asthma or needs significantly more medication, or whatever you want to determine as the line, that's when the dog has to go. And set these rules ahead of time, because then everybody knows that's when the dog has to go," Bowser says.

What can a family do once they've brought a dog home?
Here are Bowser's tips:

Keep the dog out of the allergic child's bedroom, since the child spends a lot of time there.
Wash your hands after petting the dog.
Keep the house clean.
Consider using an air purifier.
Bowser speaks from experience. She's allergic to cats, but her husband had a cat when they married. So their cat is banned from their bedroom, and they use air filters; she washes her hands after petting the cat so that she doesn't rub her eyes and wind up with swollen, itchy eyes.

Bowser also mentions the "hygiene hypothesis," which holds that exposure to animals and less-than-sterile environments may reduce the risk of developing allergies.

Could a dog allergy fade?
Allergies to dogs and cats may shift over time, notes Bowser.

For instance, she says some patients who grew up with a dog develop symptoms of dog allergies after being away from home for a long time, such as college students returning home for the holidays. "They visit their parents for Thanksgiving ... and they have symptoms where they never had symptoms before," says Bowser.

"We know of certain allergens that are always bad for people with allergies. For example, the dust mite or cockroach -- they're always bad. But dog or cat are kind of in the gray zone," Bowser says, adding that she's getting used to her husband's cat. "That's my experience," she says. "I'm actually not really doing bad with this cat."
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Necrosis on November 21, 2008, 10:49:38 PM
Hair or fur has nothing to do with a persons allergic reaction to a dog. Whoever thinks that has no idea what they are talking about. Most dogs have hair, not fur.

oh ok, explain to me what the difference is then. What type of hypersensitivity are we taking? type 1 with ige, or maybe type four with memory t cells, spill the beans.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Necrosis on November 21, 2008, 10:54:22 PM
Owned again numbnuts, Busted, when will you even learn......



Obama Family Wants a Dog That Won't Trigger Dog Allergy in Daughter; What Are Their Options?
By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Health NewsReviewed by Brunilda Nazario, MDNov. 12, 2008 -- Hypoallergenic dogs have gotten a lot of buzz lately as the Obama family searches for a dog to bring with them to the White House -- without triggering dog allergies in older Obama daughter, Malia.

A quick glance at the Internet shows lots of web sites devoted to "hypoallergenic dogs" and "hypoallergenic dog breeds." But no dog may be free of potential allergens, cautions allergy and asthma expert Corinna Bowser, MD, of Havertown, Pa.

WebMD talked with Bowser about hypoallergenic dogs and dog allergies -- and what the Obamas might consider to help avoid triggering Malia's dog allergy.

(How do pets and allergy sufferers co-exist in your home? Share your suggestions on WebMD's Allergy Support Group message board.)

Is there such a thing as a hypoallergenic dog?
"I don't think there is such a thing as a hypoallergenic dog," Bowser tells WebMD.

She explains that the major allergen in dogs is a protein found in dog serum, and dogs excrete that allergen in sweat and shed it from their skin. "It also gets secreted into the saliva, and possibly a little bit in the urine," Bowser says.

Since all dogs have that protein, no dog is completely allergy-free, according to Bowser.

Karl Jandrey, DVM, an assistant professor at the University of California, Davis' School of Veterinary Medicine, agrees with Bowser. "There really is no truly allergy-free dog," Jandrey tells WebMD via email. But Jandrey also notes that "low-allergen" dog breeds may include poodle, bichon frise, and Maltese.

What about dog breeds?
Bowser says she didn't find much evidence in medical literature about dog breeds being better or worse for allergies.

But she did find a German study, published this year, that tracked allergies among people exposed to various dog breeds. "They said factors related to individual dogs seem to influence the allergenicity more than breed or gender, which I thought was interesting," says Bowser.

In other words, it was a dog-by-dog issue more than a breed-by-breed issue in that particular study, which Bowser says is the only one she found that involved specialized allergy tests.

Jandrey agrees that "some people who have been allergic to one dog may be less allergic to other dog breeds or individual [dogs] within the same breed."

Does the dog's size or hair length matter?
"The size of dog could matter in terms of the overall amount of allergen," with smaller dogs contributing less allergen, says Bowser.

"Hair length could have something to do with how it spreads in the house," Bowser says. She explains that shorter dog hairs may not stick as much as long hair to furniture, clothes, and other surfaces, "so maybe the allergen does not stick as much, but the amount of allergen should be the same."

What about dogs with no hair? "Hairless animals have a lower allergenicity but the dander from the skin can still pose a problem for anyone sensitive to it," Jandrey says.




Obama Family Wants a Dog That Won't Trigger Dog Allergy in Daughter; What Are Their Options?(continued)
So are all dogs off limits to the Obamas?
Bowser has no ties to the Obamas, but she says that "if this was my patient ... I would say it's probably better not to get a dog."

"Of course, now he [Obama] made the promise and he kind of has to," she says. So Bowser recommends doing two things before bringing a puppy home: Dog-sit and see how Malia's allergies fare, and set some rules about how they'll handle any allergy issues.

"What we tell our patients is draw an imaginary line in the sand. If the child has an ER visit for asthma or needs significantly more medication, or whatever you want to determine as the line, that's when the dog has to go. And set these rules ahead of time, because then everybody knows that's when the dog has to go," Bowser says.

What can a family do once they've brought a dog home?
Here are Bowser's tips:

Keep the dog out of the allergic child's bedroom, since the child spends a lot of time there.
Wash your hands after petting the dog.
Keep the house clean.
Consider using an air purifier.
Bowser speaks from experience. She's allergic to cats, but her husband had a cat when they married. So their cat is banned from their bedroom, and they use air filters; she washes her hands after petting the cat so that she doesn't rub her eyes and wind up with swollen, itchy eyes.

Bowser also mentions the "hygiene hypothesis," which holds that exposure to animals and less-than-sterile environments may reduce the risk of developing allergies.

Could a dog allergy fade?
Allergies to dogs and cats may shift over time, notes Bowser.

For instance, she says some patients who grew up with a dog develop symptoms of dog allergies after being away from home for a long time, such as college students returning home for the holidays. "They visit their parents for Thanksgiving ... and they have symptoms where they never had symptoms before," says Bowser.

"We know of certain allergens that are always bad for people with allergies. For example, the dust mite or cockroach -- they're always bad. But dog or cat are kind of in the gray zone," Bowser says, adding that she's getting used to her husband's cat. "That's my experience," she says. "I'm actually not really doing bad with this cat."


do you  really want to go down this road with me?

seriously is that suppose to be a credible source. post something from a journal of allergology and i will consider your response. is this md even involved in allergy or is this just a gp? seriously, i havent even researched this person but knowing you i fear the worst, she is a quack or a laymen in the field of allergy. You know there is a specilization for allergists right? GP;s know very little about allergy my friend. Im drunk as shit so i will respond fully tom, but i would advise you stop the nonsese.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: IFBBwannaB on November 21, 2008, 11:25:45 PM
Joe, ...they're simply looking for a dog that will not trigger their daughter's allergy. What's so stupid about that?

How about looking for a president that doesn't trigger the world and nation allergy to him?  ;)

Damn...that was mean...lets all get closer together and praise the lord while we chant "god damn America"  :-*

BTW did Obama already released when he is gonna pardon Rezco?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2008, 11:28:16 PM
Romney was never a lib.

Romney’s Liberal Economic Record (vanity)


Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:29:19 AM by a77


A myth coming out of the Romney camp is that he is the ‘economy candidate’. The problem is, and we’ve seen this movie before, his rhetoric doesn’t match his record. His four-year record as Governor of Massachusetts shows a substantial increase in fees and taxes, low job growth, and a large exodus of residents from the state. As Michael Widmer, president of the independent Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, told Reuters, "There's never been under his watch an economic turnaround to speak of," further saying, "We added a few jobs over the last three years of his tenure but very few. He also raised corporate taxes and fees and the (deficit) gap turned out to be less than $3 billion."

Governor Romney has made a habit of making inaccurate claims about his record throughout this race, but ironically you don’t even have to go back that far to see that Governor Romney is not a fiscal conservative. First, he supported farm and ethanol subsidies in Iowa. Senator McCain was considered politically crazy for not pandering to Iowans and stated his opposition to farm and ethanol subsidies relaying his dedication to free trade principles. In Michigan Governor Romney offered voters a $20 billion bailout to the auto industry, not something a fiscal conservative would do. Senator McCain instead told the truth that many of these jobs are not coming back, and offered a retraining program for displaced workers. Now that the race is headed down to Florida Governor Romney is offering incentives to the elderly. Governor Romney’s claim of being conservative is not only a turn-around from his record in Massachusetts, they’re a turn-around from statements he made just a few weeks ago.

Now the Governor is criticizing Senator McCain’s position on the Bush Tax Cuts. Senator McCain has clearly stated that he wanted spending cuts to accompany tax cuts, and if you look at his record and the record of congress over the last eight years its clear that there has been a massive government spending problem that he has battled against. He supports extending the tax cuts because a repeal would be practically the same as a tax increase, which he has never supported. That is a fiscal conservative. Now Governor Romney is offering a huge economic stimulus package the dwarfs President Bush’s. That is not a good thing, and not a conservative thing, that money has to come from somewhere, which in the end means it comes from the voters pockets. Senator McCain instead offers a series of corporate tax breaks, and tax incentives for start-up businesses and for research and development. Choosing to focus on stimulating growth and ingenuity over massive bailouts. The beauty and the frustration of running against a candidate such as Governor Romney whose rhetoric doesn’t match his record is that there is plenty of documentation to show what his record really is. So feel free to not believe me just check the record, and learn for yourself that this newly dubbed ‘economy candidate’ looks a lot like a Liberal.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: The Coach on November 21, 2008, 11:29:02 PM
do you  really want to go down this road with me?

seriously is that suppose to be a credible source. post something from a journal of allergology and i will consider your response. is this md even involved in allergy or is this just a gp? seriously, i havent even researched this person but knowing you i fear the worst, she is a quack or a laymen in the field of allergy. You know there is a specilization for allergists right? GP;s know very little about allergy my friend. Im drunk as shit so i will respond fully tom, but i would advise you stop the nonsese.

Yes, how stupid of me to not post anything more credible than "WEB MD". Perhaps you have something more credible from CNN ::)?

Good job. Keep on drinking, you obviously need it ::)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: The Coach on November 21, 2008, 11:34:40 PM
do you  really want to go down this road with me?

seriously is that suppose to be a credible source. post something from a journal of allergology and i will consider your response. is this md even involved in allergy or is this just a gp? seriously, i havent even researched this person but knowing you i fear the worst, she is a quack or a laymen in the field of allergy. You know there is a specilization for allergists right? GP;s know very little about allergy my friend. Im drunk as shit so i will respond fully tom, but i would advise you stop the nonsese.


Saved for posterity.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Necrosis on November 22, 2008, 09:13:29 AM
Yes, how stupid of me to not post anything more credible than "WEB MD". Perhaps you have something more credible from CNN ::)?

Good job. Keep on drinking, you obviously need it ::)

sorry what you posted was an opinon, and no webmd is not a credible source unless it has references. I wont take someones opinion. Is there such thing as a hypoallergenic dog? "i dont think so" , bwhaha ya that sounds definitive.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on November 22, 2008, 11:31:05 AM
Ok.  Dont eat turkey on thanksgiving if you feel that strongly about it.  While your at it, dont eat hamburger, steak, or beef because you probably would object to how they kill those animals too.   Did I mention chickens?????  Oh - how about shark steaks??????

You clowns and fools who want to be divorced from the ugliness behind many aspects of life are choosing to remain ignorant about how food comes to your plate.  Do I like watchingt that? No.  However, I am not naive and ignorant to how many things happen in this world like you obviously are.   

As far as the law - I have a law practice and another business going, so go back to your dorm room and jerk yourself off again to Olbermann. 



Haha you're a lawyer?  LMAO!  That's what I was saying moron.  There ARE LAWS protecting animal welfare and animal slaughter in this country.  I'm VERY WELL aware of how food is produced in this country hence why I buy all my meat, poultry, eggs, milk from local farmers and co-ops.  I know exactly how the animals that feed me are treated and slaughtered.  My turkey this year will come from a free range pasture poultry farm.  Everyone in this country has a choice to be informed and educated themselves.  Most are either lazy or are like you and say I'm informed but what can I do about it?  Spend an extra $1 a pound or $1 a carton on meat and eggs if you want to make a difference. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 22, 2008, 11:33:14 AM
Haha you're a lawyer?  LMAO!  That's what I was saying moron.  There ARE LAWS protecting animal welfare and animal slaughter in this country.  I'm VERY WELL aware of how food is produced in this country hence why I buy all my meat, poultry, eggs, milk from local farmers and co-ops.  I know exactly how the animals that feed me are treated and slaughtered.  My turkey this year will come from a free range pasture poultry farm.  Everyone in this country has a choice to be informed and educated themselves.  Most are either lazy or are like you and say I'm informed but what can I do about it?  Spend an extra $1 a pound or $1 a carton on meat and eggs if you want to make a difference. 

Did you ever think that maybe this issue is of more importance to you than others?????
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on November 22, 2008, 11:49:11 AM
Did you ever think that maybe this issue is of more importance to you than others?????

Oh absolutey.  Most people live their lives with in their little bubble with their head buried in the sand spending their meaningless lives watching Monday night football or Dancing with the stars.  I don't know what's worse..........being ignorant about the issue or actually knowing what goes on and refusing to change your lifestyle because it's not important. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: Mark Kerr on November 22, 2008, 12:28:41 PM
Romney’s Liberal Economic Record (vanity)


Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:29:19 AM by a77


A myth coming out of the Romney camp is that he is the ‘economy candidate’. The problem is, and we’ve seen this movie before, his rhetoric doesn’t match his record. His four-year record as Governor of Massachusetts shows a substantial increase in fees and taxes, low job growth, and a large exodus of residents from the state. As Michael Widmer, president of the independent Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, told Reuters, "There's never been under his watch an economic turnaround to speak of," further saying, "We added a few jobs over the last three years of his tenure but very few. He also raised corporate taxes and fees and the (deficit) gap turned out to be less than $3 billion."

Governor Romney has made a habit of making inaccurate claims about his record throughout this race, but ironically you don’t even have to go back that far to see that Governor Romney is not a fiscal conservative. First, he supported farm and ethanol subsidies in Iowa. Senator McCain was considered politically crazy for not pandering to Iowans and stated his opposition to farm and ethanol subsidies relaying his dedication to free trade principles. In Michigan Governor Romney offered voters a $20 billion bailout to the auto industry, not something a fiscal conservative would do. Senator McCain instead told the truth that many of these jobs are not coming back, and offered a retraining program for displaced workers. Now that the race is headed down to Florida Governor Romney is offering incentives to the elderly. Governor Romney’s claim of being conservative is not only a turn-around from his record in Massachusetts, they’re a turn-around from statements he made just a few weeks ago.

Now the Governor is criticizing Senator McCain’s position on the Bush Tax Cuts. Senator McCain has clearly stated that he wanted spending cuts to accompany tax cuts, and if you look at his record and the record of congress over the last eight years its clear that there has been a massive government spending problem that he has battled against. He supports extending the tax cuts because a repeal would be practically the same as a tax increase, which he has never supported. That is a fiscal conservative. Now Governor Romney is offering a huge economic stimulus package the dwarfs President Bush’s. That is not a good thing, and not a conservative thing, that money has to come from somewhere, which in the end means it comes from the voters pockets. Senator McCain instead offers a series of corporate tax breaks, and tax incentives for start-up businesses and for research and development. Choosing to focus on stimulating growth and ingenuity over massive bailouts. The beauty and the frustration of running against a candidate such as Governor Romney whose rhetoric doesn’t match his record is that there is plenty of documentation to show what his record really is. So feel free to not believe me just check the record, and learn for yourself that this newly dubbed ‘economy candidate’ looks a lot like a Liberal.


You should do a little research on the LDS. They are not Liberals in any way. Mitt Romney was raised in the Mormon church, went to BYU and was a Mormon Missionary. Mitt Romney's beliefs and extremely Conservative.

Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 240 is Back on November 22, 2008, 12:48:49 PM
Romney had a strong anti-gun voting record as gover of mass.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on November 22, 2008, 01:04:55 PM
Romney's a corporate suit douchebag like most politicians. 
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: muscleforlife on November 22, 2008, 06:06:39 PM
Did you ever think that maybe this issue is of more importance to you than others?????
I've read "Skinny Bitch" which is basically about becoming organic and/or vegan.
The graphic detail about animal slaughter, farming, harvesting was enough to make me stop eating red meat.

Now, I would NOT give up my meat eating lifestyle, it did make me more aware of the practices of meat from the "farm to my table".

With this Palin interview, it was just bad  politics for her to on one hand save a turkey and then stand in front of a butchering of other turkeys.

You have got to see the stupidity of her being in that shot, especially if she was unaware of the impact of the visual of what was going on as she spoke.

Politics is about smoke and mirrors.
Being on the campaign trail with McCain....That lesson has not sunk in with Gov. Palin.

I see that she is a smart, decent person who I could relate to as a neighbor and PTA leader,mayor of my small town.
We chit chat about the kids, married life, politics...We know what is going on, but don't have the "inside dirt" on the national level.

If you need to step your game up.....no bloody turkey slaughter background during your televisesed speech,  Unless that is the topic of your press conference.
Sandra
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: 24KT on November 22, 2008, 07:02:09 PM

If you need to step your game up.....no bloody turkey slaughter background during your televisesed speech,  Unless that is the topic of your press conference.
Sandra

Interestingly enough, the photographer asked her if she wanted another backdrop for the interview and she said that one was fine. What an idiot. Can anybody even remember what she said? No. That's why she not only has no political savvy, ...but also no common sense.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin Interviewed While Turkeys are Being Slaughtered
Post by: TechnoViking on November 22, 2008, 07:34:11 PM
I've read "Skinny Bitch" which is basically about becoming organic and/or vegan.
The graphic detail about animal slaughter, farming, harvesting was enough to make me stop eating red meat.

Now, I would NOT give up my meat eating lifestyle, it did make me more aware of the practices of meat from the "farm to my table".

With this Palin interview, it was just bad  politics for her to on one hand save a turkey and then stand in front of a butchering of other turkeys.

You have got to see the stupidity of her being in that shot, especially if she was unaware of the impact of the visual of what was going on as she spoke.

Politics is about smoke and mirrors.
Being on the campaign trail with McCain....That lesson has not sunk in with Gov. Palin.

I see that she is a smart, decent person who I could relate to as a neighbor and PTA leader,mayor of my small town.
We chit chat about the kids, married life, politics...We know what is going on, but don't have the "inside dirt" on the national level.

If you need to step your game up.....no bloody turkey slaughter background during your televisesed speech,  Unless that is the topic of your press conference.
Sandra

I've read skinny bitch...Although reading about the slaughter does something to the human soul, seeing a live video like in the movie "Earthlings" just brings it to a whole new level...