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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Howard on November 24, 2008, 10:56:44 PM
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Seems to have worked for these donkeys. Look at that neck mass.
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all it eats is grass, no protein, no fancy whey isolate
how do we explain this?
(http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/vecase/SeniorColloquium/04/Genetic%20Testing/bull.jpg)
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all it eats is grass, no protein, no fancy whey isolate
how do we explain this?
(http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/vecase/SeniorColloquium/04/Genetic%20Testing/bull.jpg)
genetics...
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how much protein does grass have?
non
it's mostly negative calories cuz it's vegies
animal's bodies can convert grass into protein? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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how much protein does grass have?
non
it's mostly negative calories cuz it's vegies
animal's bodies can convert grass into protein? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
It's a cow...it's filled with beef.
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how much protein does grass have?
non
it's mostly negative calories cuz it's vegies
animal's bodies can convert grass into protein? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
wtf are you talking about? these animals are stuffed to their teeth with high protein/calorie grain feed, and the main protein that's added is actually whey protein.
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Works just fine for this guy
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Speaking of neck mass, did Mower eat veggies on his sammiches?
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Speaking of neck mass, did Mower eat veggies on his sammiches?
hahah yes, rumor has it there was a plethora of them in his Jansport backpacker.
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Works just fine for this guy
imagine how big he would be with cell-tech
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hahah yes, rumor has it there was a plethora of them in his Jansport backpacker.
Then there's your answer. There has never been a more developed neck to torso ratio than what the great Mower developed. 8)
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mower is a mutant
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all it eats is grass, no protein, no fancy whey isolate
how do we explain this?
(http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/vecase/SeniorColloquium/04/Genetic%20Testing/bull.jpg)
I don't know, but that bull looks rather big.
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Seems to have worked for these donkeys. Look at that neck mass.
I eat veggies when i want explosive diarrhea. I like to see how long i can hold it in and when im about to burst pin my knees back over my shoulders and shit all over my face.
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Uh, Humans evolved differently and are incapable of manufacturing the amino acids from this kind of diet.
These animals are ruminants.
Physiologically, a ruminant is a mammal of the order Artiodactyla that digests plant-based food by initially softening it within the animal's first stomach, known as the rumen, then regurgitating the semi-digested mass, now known as cud, and chewing it again. The process of again chewing the cud to further break down plant matter and stimulate digestion is called "ruminating". Ruminating mammals include cattle, goats, sheep, giraffes, American Bison, European bison, yaks, water buffalo, deer, camels, alpacas, llamas, wildebeest, antelope, and pronghorn. Taxonomically, the suborder Ruminantia includes all those species except the camels, llamas, and alpacas, which are Tylopoda. Therefore, the term 'ruminant' is not synonymous with Ruminantia.
Ruminants have a fore-stomach with four chambers. These are the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. In the first two chambers, the rumen and the reticulum, the food is mixed with saliva and separates into layers of solid and liquid material. Solids clump together to form the cud (or bolus). The cud is then regurgitated, chewed slowly to completely mix it with saliva and to break down the particle size. Fiber, especially cellulose and hemi-cellulose, is primarily broken down into the three volatile fatty acids, acetic acid, propionic acid and butyric acid in these chambers by microbes (bacteria, protozoa, and fungi). Protein and non-structural carbohydrate (pectin, sugars, starches) are also fermented.
Even though the rumen and reticulum have different names they represent the same functional space as digesta can move back and forth between them. Together these chambers are called the reticulorumen. The degraded digesta, which is now in the lower liquid part of the reticulorumen, then passes into the next chamber, the omasum, where water and many of the inorganic mineral elements are absorbed into the blood stream. After this the digesta is moved to the last chamber, the abomasum. The abomasum is the direct equivalent of the monogastric stomach (for example that of the human or pig), and digesta is digested here in much the same way. Digesta is finally moved into the small intestine, where the digestion and absorption of nutrients occurs. Microbes produced in the reticulo-rumen are also digested in the small intestine. Fermentation continues in the large intestine in the same way as in the reticulorumen.
Almost all the glucose produced by the breaking down of cellulose and hemicellulose is used by microbes in the rumen, and as such ruminants usually absorb little glucose from the small intestine. Rather, ruminants' requirement for glucose (for brain function and lactation if appropriate) is made by the liver from propionate, one of the volatile fatty acids made in the rumen[citation needed].
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A relative of mine explained it to me, still strange how there are so many vitamins and such we cannot synthesise in our bodies as oppose to animals. Not that I'd want to be able to eat and gain nutritional value from grass.
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all it eats is grass, no protein, no fancy whey isolate
how do we explain this?
obviously they have totally different DNA....hence different enzymes/proteins are made...therefore:totally different metabolisms and nutrient requirements and physical traits
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and there i was thinking we were the same
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Works just fine for this guy
ronnie coleman looking solid.
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Humans can build mass without meat.
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all it eats is grass, no protein, no fancy whey isolate
how do we explain this?
(http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/vecase/SeniorColloquium/04/Genetic%20Testing/bull.jpg)
They can break down cellulose, you can not.
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They can break down cellulose, you can not.
That's not why.
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That's not why.
Isn't that bull one with the genes spliced or something like that?
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all it eats is grass, no protein, no fancy whey isolate
how do we explain this?
(http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/vecase/SeniorColloquium/04/Genetic%20Testing/bull.jpg)
But his symetry is waaaaayyyy off!
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Isn't that bull one with the genes spliced or something like that?
yip yip.
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yip yip.
No. Just bred Naturally with myostatin deletion/inactivation.
It is a Belgian Blue.
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The Belgian Blue has a natural mutation of the gene that codes for myostatin, a protein that counteracts muscle growth. The truncated myostatin is unable to function in this capacity. This mutation also interferes with fat deposition, resulting in very lean meat.
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No. Just bred Naturally with myostatin deletion/inactivation.
It is a Belgian Blue.
If it's the same knock out technology they use for mice it ain't natural.
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No. Just bred Naturally with myostatin deletion/inactivation.
It is a Belgian Blue.
yes, that is exactly it, ALL GENETICS ;D
Flex Wheeler was myostatin deficient
didn't stop him from abusing steroids until his kidney failed, injecting synthol everywhere, and being skinny before the juice :-\
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yes, that is exactly it, ALL GENETICS ;D
Flex Wheeler was myostatin deficient
didn't stop him from abusing steroids until his kidney failed, injecting synthol everywhere, and being skinny before the juice :-\
STFU, lying sack of shit.
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If it's the same knock out technology they use for mice it ain't natural.
Belgian Blues have been around for a long time.
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all it eats is grass, no protein, no fancy whey isolate
how do we explain this?
(http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/vecase/SeniorColloquium/04/Genetic%20Testing/bull.jpg)
Myostatin deficiency. There is a breed of dog that has this "problem" also. I suspect Ronnie Coleman too. :)
No. Just bred Naturally with myostatin deletion/inactivation.
It is a Belgian Blue.
Guess I'm late.
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Myostatin deficiency. There is a breed of dog that has the "problem" also. I suspect Ronnie Coleman too. :)
This kid does :o
imagine how bad he would own all natural bodybuilders if he decided to take it seriously
no cheating, it really is "genetics"
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This kid does :o
imagine how bad he would own all natural bodybuilders if he decided to take it seriously
no cheating, it really is "genetics"
You fucking idiot, his dad put bulk steroid powders in the kid's protein shakes. Now that his daddy isn't feeding him sauce shakes, he looks like a homo with long hair and no muscle like yourself. I sincerely hope you were joking. :-\
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http://www.piedmontese.org/
best beef for bodybuilders. Bred from a specific type of cow from northern italy that demonstrated specific myostatin deficient animals....the beef is extraordinarily lean and tender. Less fat than regular beef, and more healthy fats that you want.
Theres a link to order from the site too.
this link has a comparison chart showing it's superior makeup to belgian blue and other breeds of cattle http://www.piedmontese.org/Polyunsaturated%20Fatty%20Acids%20Beef%20Breed%20Comparison.htm
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Myostatin deficiency. There is a breed of dog that has this "problem" also. I suspect Ronnie Coleman too. :)
Guess I'm late.
(http://www.hypertrophy-specific.info/iB_html/uploads/post-7-57588-MyostatinDog2.jpg)
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/11/us/12dog-600.jpg)
(http://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/wendy2.png)
(http://www.arunkumarm.com/blogphotos/dog.PNG)
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So, what you are really saying TA, is that the Donkey bush eating diet won't work for me? ;)
Uh, Humans evolved differently and are incapable of manufacturing the amino acids from this kind of diet.
These animals are ruminants.
Physiologically, a ruminant is a mammal of the order Artiodactyla that digests plant-based food by initially softening it within the animal's first stomach, known as the rumen, then regurgitating the semi-digested mass, now known as cud, and chewing it again. The process of again chewing the cud to further break down plant matter and stimulate digestion is called "ruminating". Ruminating mammals include cattle, goats, sheep, giraffes, American Bison, European bison, yaks, water buffalo, deer, camels, alpacas, llamas, wildebeest, antelope, and pronghorn. Taxonomically, the suborder Ruminantia includes all those species except the camels, llamas, and alpacas, which are Tylopoda. Therefore, the term 'ruminant' is not synonymous with Ruminantia.
Ruminants have a fore-stomach with four chambers. These are the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. In the first two chambers, the rumen and the reticulum, the food is mixed with saliva and separates into layers of solid and liquid material. Solids clump together to form the cud (or bolus). The cud is then regurgitated, chewed slowly to completely mix it with saliva and to break down the particle size. Fiber, especially cellulose and hemi-cellulose, is primarily broken down into the three volatile fatty acids, acetic acid, propionic acid and butyric acid in these chambers by microbes (bacteria, protozoa, and fungi). Protein and non-structural carbohydrate (pectin, sugars, starches) are also fermented.
Even though the rumen and reticulum have different names they represent the same functional space as digesta can move back and forth between them. Together these chambers are called the reticulorumen. The degraded digesta, which is now in the lower liquid part of the reticulorumen, then passes into the next chamber, the omasum, where water and many of the inorganic mineral elements are absorbed into the blood stream. After this the digesta is moved to the last chamber, the abomasum. The abomasum is the direct equivalent of the monogastric stomach (for example that of the human or pig), and digesta is digested here in much the same way. Digesta is finally moved into the small intestine, where the digestion and absorption of nutrients occurs. Microbes produced in the reticulo-rumen are also digested in the small intestine. Fermentation continues in the large intestine in the same way as in the reticulorumen.
Almost all the glucose produced by the breaking down of cellulose and hemicellulose is used by microbes in the rumen, and as such ruminants usually absorb little glucose from the small intestine. Rather, ruminants' requirement for glucose (for brain function and lactation if appropriate) is made by the liver from propionate, one of the volatile fatty acids made in the rumen[citation needed].
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So, what you are really saying TA, is that the Donkey bush eating diet won't work for me? ;)
I think the Donkey`s ate Bush for breakfast this November is what I meant. :)
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This kid does :o
imagine how bad he would own all natural bodybuilders if he decided to take it seriously
no cheating, it really is "genetics"
fuck you, that kid was abused, fucker
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Seems to have worked for these donkeys. Look at that neck mass.
The people who get big are not the people who eat so much protein their bodies decided it could use more for muscle. They are the people who eat so much OTHER STUFF than protein that the body is allowed to use the protein it IS given for muscle. CAP OFF THE ENERGY REQUIREMENT SO THAT SHIT CAN BUILD YOU!
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Good to see you back in action.
Many listers waiting to be added.
This has possibilities.
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This has possibilities.
We need to get a new list of tiny tits going.........they're everywhere!
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I think the Donkey`s ate Bush for breakfast this November is what I meant. :)
Good one TA! Ok rate the current leg development of my wifey. :D
All she does is cardio on the stepper and eats mostly carbs
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What will be yours and NZMM new names?
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We need to get a new list of tiny tits going.........they're everywhere!
Once they get on that crazy list of his, it's lights out. :'(
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My beast can kick all those wimp hounds !!!
(http://www.hypertrophy-specific.info/iB_html/uploads/post-7-57588-MyostatinDog2.jpg)
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/11/us/12dog-600.jpg)
(http://blogmuscle.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/wendy2.png)
(http://www.arunkumarm.com/blogphotos/dog.PNG)
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Good one TA! Ok rate the current leg development of my wifey. :D
All she does is cardio on the stepper and eats mostly carbs
I can't rate those legs with that skirt in the way Howie.
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The bulls and dogs are genetic freaks, this one however is not.
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This kid does :o
imagine how bad he would own all natural bodybuilders if he decided to take it seriously
no cheating, it really is "genetics"
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looks like a homo now.
all gyno and girly hair.
(http://www.richardsandrak.com/image%20002.jpg)
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looks like a homo now.
all gyno and girly hair.
wait...what's the story behind this kid, somebody clarify, I just searched for Myostatin defeciency and his picture came up
his dad gave him steroids? ???
who the hell does that?
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i heard one year at the arnold Richard Sandrak was there at some booth and squatted 225 for 45 minutes straight to set some kind of record.
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wait...what's the story behind this kid, somebody clarify, I just searched for Myostatin defeciency and his picture came up
his dad gave him steroids? ???
who the hell does that?
His name is Richard Sandrak, and he is better known as "Little Hercules."
He was very famous when he was younger, about 8-10 years old, for being abnormally muscular for his age. He was seen as some sort of miracle, was on all sorts of TV shows, etc....
(http://www.yourdailymedia.com/i/u/Yr3J9J5G.jpg)(http://www.tugagym.info/imagens/DiscoveryChannelRichardSandrak_141B0/termin1sp3_thumb.jpg)(http://www.insideedition.com/lib/images/specialreports/1809/061608-little-hercules-2.jpg)
People have suspected his dad of feeding him growth-promoting substances, because his dad made him a "special" drink that he required Richard to drink daily, when he was younger. His dad trained him, then, as well. I believe Richard is now 16. He's cut off all ties with his dad. Through the years, Richard continued with his training, but didn't continue to be abnormally large as he got older. Now, at 16, there's nothing terribly unusual about his appearance. He appeared more "normal" after he quit drinking his dad's drinks, and as he got older. This shouldn't have happened if his muscles were due to something genetic. Therefore, it is now suspected that he was on something when he was taking his dad's "special drink." Today:
(http://www.richardsandrak.com/new%20pic%20006.jpg)(http://mediakidvids.net/actorprofiles/images/over/RichardSandrak.jpg)
Google "RICHARD SANDRAK" or "LITTLE HERCULES" for more info.
Today, he's still selling his image and products:
http://www.richardsandrak.com/index.html (http://www.richardsandrak.com/index.html)
I don't think he had a myostatin deficiency, unless his body progressively produced more of it as he got older, relative to his body size. What's happened in time certainly does suggest that he was unknowingly taking drugs when he was drinking the "drinks" under his dad's "program."