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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on November 26, 2008, 10:58:54 PM
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Everybody keeps saying that Shawn Ray had presented his best at Mr. O. 94 when he placed 2nd and deserved to beat Yates while he was a little off at Mr. O. 95 so placed 4th.. I watched the videos of both contests and always feel that Shawn was the same.. Does anyone knows his weight at each contest of the 2??..
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I never said that about Shawn.
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shawn is not so smart for not marrying that girl who won Dancing with the stars when he had the chance
now he's gonna have to pay for that kinda girl :-\
yes 94 and 95 look the same to me
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He's wearing different posing trunks, the same he says....... ;D
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He's wearing different posing trunks, the same he says....... ;D
You can get more $ for two pairs of soiled pants
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Too much Maybeline in 95.
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He probably did look the same, everyone else probably improved from the yr before.
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He didnt change much since 88
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He didnt change much since 88
Not much to change when you're damn near perfect.
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he looks fuller in 1994
Perhaps his best was 1996 or 1997 instead
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shawn is not so smart for not marrying that girl who won Dancing with the stars when he had the chance
now he's gonna have to pay for that kinda girl :-\
yes 94 and 95 look the same to me
(http://www.mad-max.cz/news/shawnRay.jpg)
guy did ok. one is a dancer and you cant remember what she does. the other is educated and a partner in an escrow company. all good.
btw...shawn is getting more board time than the current MrO.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/diablo86/shawn%20rayt/27.jpg)
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Everybody keeps saying that Shawn Ray had presented his best at Mr. O. 94 when he placed 2nd and deserved to beat Yates while he was a little off at Mr. O. 95 so placed 4th.. I watched the videos of both contests and always feel that Shawn was the same.. Does anyone knows his weight at each contest of the 2??..
Yeah Ray looking great in both years.
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At 18 Ray was way ahead of most.
At 22 he was a pro, and put on maybe 15lbs of quality proportionate muscle throughout career. The waistline stayed the same!
As someone else said, near perfect, but not good enough for the monsters of his day - according to judges.
2 of my other favorites, Labrada & Gaspari also came close but no cigar.
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At 18 Ray was way ahead of most.
At 22 he was a pro, and put on maybe 15lbs of quality proportionate muscle throughout career. The waistline stayed the same!
As someone else said, near perfect, but not good enough for the monsters of his day - according to judges.
2 of my other favorites, Labrada & Gaspari also came close but no cigar.
Very well put Figo. I'm w/ you 100 % on this one
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thing with shaun is, he was fucked either way,, with him bein short, anymore size would have spoilt the thing he had goin for him with his shape, would of just looked more stumpy.......
still a class act, and sorely missed along with the rest of the 90's golden age
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That's not Big Sean Allen.
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Everybody keeps saying that Shawn Ray had presented his best at Mr. O. 94 when he placed 2nd and deserved to beat Yates while he was a little off at Mr. O. 95 so placed 4th.. I watched the videos of both contests and always feel that Shawn was the same.. Does anyone knows his weight at each contest of the 2??..
I think he was around 205 as usual in both contests. Shawn always showed up in great conditioning (barring a couple of instances like the 96 AC), but he never really improved on his shape and muscularity - he was nearly the same year after year. And he was far from perfect - short, narrow and weak front & rear lat spreads, not to mention his blocky legs, although I'm just nitpicking here.
Shawn always cried foul, saying the judges were overlooking him cause he wasn't a big guy, but the judges always gave him his due and put him in the top 4 in most of his Olympias. He was just not physically dominant due to his height and (lack of) size, not to mention he competed at a time when the quality of competition was at it's best.
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He didn't change that much over those years. Pound for pound maybe a potential o winner.
Very short though. I think height plays a part in the judges decision making.
Tall equals dominant and impressive.
Short equals insecure and insignificant
That is, in the eyes of many judges. Sad but true.
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The chiuaua was simply not big enough or masculine enough to win a show. He was an overrated little yapper. He also had a limit for size , he tried to get big don't believe him that he didnt. A small man with a bad nature and always he was dwarfed by the large and normal sized athletes
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The chiuaua was simply not big enough or masculine enough to win a show. He was an overrated little yapper. He also had a limit for size , he tried to get big don't believe him that he didnt. A small man with a bad nature and always he was dwarfed by the large and normal sized athletes
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uncrowned Mr. O
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Shawn Ray:
small
1. not large as compared with others of the same kind
2. of minor importance, moment, weight, or consequence.
3. characterized by or indicative of littleness of mind or character; mean-spirited; petty: a small, miserly man
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and yet still smoked Yates in 1994..lol
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and yet still smoked Yates in 1994..lol
I wouldn't call taking 2nd place to Dorian's fully deserved first place (by Shawn's own admission) 'smoking' Yates, Hulkster.
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I wouldn't call taking 2nd place to Dorian's fully deserved first place (by Shawn's own admission) 'smoking' Yates, Hulkster.
but it was only his 'own admission' while still under contract with Joe Weider..
once out from under the contest namesake's grip, his true opinion came out.
he got screwed..
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but it was only his 'own admission' while still under contract with Joe Weider..
I honestly don't believe you believe that yourself ;D
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I honestly don't believe you believe that yourself ;D
why not? the rest of the bb commnity always talks about how 1994 was a complete scam that dorian won..
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Shawn was in excellent shape in 94 - arguably the best he's been, but to say that he was still better than Yates when you look at it from a mandatory pose point-of-view is nuts.
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and yet still smoked Yates in 1994..lol
ND has covered this before:
Shawn Ray's words:
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
You can't help but sully a thread with your disdain for Yates, Hulkster. You are so very transparent. You are obsessed with Yates. Not only did Yates dominate the Olympia, he also dominates your every waking thought.
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Deshay Ehbert called Shawn out in 2001, and told him came in looking the same. Honestly he hadn't gained or loss anything for almost 10 years competing at the Olympia.
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Deshay Ehbert called Shawn out in 2001, and told him came in looking the same. Honestly he hadn't gained or loss anything for almost 10 years competing at the Olympia.
The whole wrap with Ray was he only put on 5 that's FIVE pounds since he won the Nationals over his whole career , Shawn tried to up the ante one year by coming in at 215 pounds and his conditioning suffered for and his placing slipped
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but it was only his 'own admission' while still under contract with Joe Weider..
once out from under the contest namesake's grip, his true opinion came out.
he got screwed..
Once again you have shown your complete ignorance of competitive bodybuilding . Shawn Ray was known at the time as one of the most outspoken bodybuilders of the day
please spare me this nonsense he was scared to say anything here is Shawn Ray speaking the truth
Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray
Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
stating the obvious he knew he couldn't compete with Dorian and no one could , he just offered something else which the judges didn't pick , Shawn wanted the system to bend to his physique .
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and yet still smoked Yates in 1994..lol
Hulk, when you walked into whatever family members home you visited on Thanksgiving, did you proceed to pull out a pp presentation on why Coleman is better than Yates after a family member asked you how you were doing?
Hi (insert name) how are you doing?
Hulk: Well, I am doing fine, but I tell you something, Yates is a fucking FRIDGE and Ronnie Coleman is the greatest bb who ever pumped a weight.....let me show you why (pulls out laptop and fires up powerpoint.)
But (insert name) it's Thanksgiving
Hulk: You see that Turkey, it looks like Yates in 95. FUCK YATES!
Nude picture of Coleman pops up
Hulk: Shit, wrong pp!
;)
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Hulk, when you walked into whatever family members home you visited on Thanksgiving, did you proceed to pull out a pp presentation on why Coleman is better than Yates after a family member asked you how you where doing?
Hi (insert name) how are you doing?
Hulk: Well, I am doing fine, but I tell you something, Yates is a fucking FRIDGE and Ronnie Coleman is the greatest bb who ever pumped a weight.....let me show you why (pulls out laptop and fires up powerpoint.)
But (insert name) it's Thanksgiving
Hulk: You see that Turkey, it looks like Yates in 95
Nude picture of Coleman pops up
Hulk: Shit, wrong pp!
;)
lmfao
Hulkster = Ronnie-emo
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shawn is not so smart for not marrying that girl who won Dancing with the stars when he had the chance
now he's gonna have to pay for that kinda girl :-\
yes 94 and 95 look the same to me
Brooke Burke is a dancing Chimp...Shawn was right to get away from that mess...She now has 4 kids and counting...
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Brooke Burke is a dancing Chimp...Shawn was right to get away from that mess...She now has 4 kids and counting...
4 kids and still a hot piece of ass. I would take her over any of the "other" so called chicks Ray has dated. Then again, it calls into question when he dated Brooke, and when he started dating the Tranny.
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I believe he was 204 in '94,
215 in '95. He definatley says in BFTO '96 that he came in bigger,
and he even admitted that he came in less conditioned, trying to play
the size game, and for '96, he was going to do it his way and not
for the judges. Obviously he placed #2 in the '96 show, so perhaps
he was on to something.
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Thx for the info. but according to Flex mag. in the review of Mr. O. 95 he looked the same as in 94!!.. I believe he was the same but Kevin of 95 was in a better condition than in 94 so beat Shawn and Nasser was the hit of the year and amazed everyone with his size and shape so beat Shawn.. Dorian who was criticized a lot by Shawn before Mr. O. 95 still believed Shawn should have come 2nd to him over Kvn and Nasr..
I believe he was 204 in '94,
215 in '95. He definatley says in BFTO '96 that he came in bigger,
and he even admitted that he came in less conditioned, trying to play
the size game, and for '96, he was going to do it his way and not
for the judges. Obviously he placed #2 in the '96 show, so perhaps
he was on to something.