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Unlike many of you, I don't ramp up or down when using Clen.
I generally start off with 120MCG ed on a 2week on/2week off basis.
Have any of you found something to combat the shakes?
It's just a bit embarrassing when you can't control the jitters and people start wondering if you're a meth slut behind closed doors.
Anyone, Bueller? ???
DIV
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I couldn't go above 40 without shaking. Are you cutting up or something? I thought you were a power lifter or something along those lines.
My grandmas arm was twitching more noticeably but it wasn't Clen it was parkinsons.
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i dont get the shakes
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I couldn't go above 40 without shaking. Are you cutting up or something? I thought you were a power lifter or something along those lines.
My grandmas arm was twitching more noticeably but it wasn't Clen it was parkinsons.
I have a huge supply of Clen and I'll often go on a short cycle to change things up.......nothing dramatic.
I just wish there was something I could use to combat the shakes.........because I feel like a wired animal on 120MCG's of Clen.
DIV
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The fucking cramping at high dosage sucks... lying in bed or screwing a girl and you're legs go into clen-cramps....
or eating something, holding a sandwich in one hand and your arm cramps up...grrrr
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The fucking cramping at high dosage sucks... lying in bed or screwing a girl and you're legs go into clen-cramps....
or eating something, holding a sandwich in one hand and your arm cramps up...grrrr
Oh yeah...cramps are unreal. My calves looked like a pot of boiling water.
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If you stay on it longer than 2 weeks you will aclimate. Ramp up a bit this may help also. Take a few days to get to 120mcg. I took clen for 4 months straight, 120 felt like nothing after a while.
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If you stay on it longer than 2 weeks you will aclimate. Ramp up a bit this may help also. Take a few days to get to 120mcg. I took clen for 4 months straight, 120 felt like nothing after a while.
I may give it another go after the holidays. I tried everything recommended for cramps but they would not go away. Shakes I can deal with but cramps is the deal breaker.
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i dont get the shakes
Same , didnt think clen did this? ???
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Unlike many of you, I don't ramp up or down when using Clen.
I generally start off with 120MCG ed on a 2week on/2week off basis.
Have any of you found something to combat the shakes?
It's just a bit embarrassing when you can't control the jitters and people start wondering if you're a meth slut behind closed doors.
Anyone, Bueller? ???
DIV
Ramping up slowly and not using the 2wk on 2wk off method would take care of this.
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clen sucks for me at times becuase it gives me some bad headaches!
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This is why I use albuterol and ECA!
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Same , didnt think clen did this? ???
its not a stimulant that can effect sleep so i have no idea why it would give one the shakes... however there might be some kind of physiological explanation for it that i dont know of
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This is why I use albuterol and ECA!
yeaa isnt the aspirin hard on the liver?...i try to give my liver a rest as much as i can.
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its not a stimulant that can effect sleep so i have no idea why it would give one the shakes... however there might be some kind of physiological explanation for it that i dont know of
Agree. Give me caffiene/drine and or yohimbine and im shaking like a drunk desperate for a drink but clen Im fine , only makes me sweat like im sitting in a sauna fully clothed.
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yeaa isnt the aspirin hard on the liver?...i try to give my liver a rest as much as i can.
stomach yes liver no. I only use 1 82mg baby aspirin with my ECA!
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Quinine helps with the cramps but God damn they can be terrible!! I'd get cramps in my fucking GOOCH while sitting on the can.. terrible experience. I'd also get tons of neck and leg cramps. My cheeks would even become painful and exhausted from minor cramps. As far as the jittering is concerned, I would split the dosage up evenly. If it's liquid clen, just measure out your dosage and fill an empty gelatin cap and you're good to go.
I used to shake pretty darn bad on clen. I was working a manual labor job when taking it and needed to ramp up as I find clen to be quite potent. One time I took some clen and in a rush, accidentally doubled the dose before work thinking I had taken some other pill. It was close to 40 degrees outside and I was committed to a 12 hour shift until the wee hours of the morning (plus I got a ride to work as my car was in the shop). It fucking BLEW!!! I had a migraine so I was coaxed into smoking weed, which we normally did at least 4-5 times a shift... helped a little but I was shaking like a leaf with a pounding headache.
I have no idea how you can tolerate 120mcg off the bat like that. You must be a big boy or just quite tolerant to clen. I've tried pill form and liquid clen, but the liquid clen seemed much more potent. Perhaps it was a batch that was accidentally overdosed slightly. Never had clen that potent. "200mcg" of that shit made me HATE life!! :'(
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Ramping up slowly and not using the 2wk on 2wk off method would take care of this.
I'm not much of a ramper because I like to get things underway....
Sometimes I get the shakes, other times I don't.
Cramping is also an issue but can be alleviated somewhat with potassium.
DIV
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I'm not much of a ramper because I like to get things underway....
Sometimes I get the shakes, other times I don't.
Cramping is also an issue but can be alleviated somewhat with potassium.
DIV
Well, that's part of my point.
If you ramped up then you would help eliminate the shakes. More importantly you would be able to stay on for longer stints without having to do the yo-yo thing with the 2wk on 2wk off method.
I've posted how I do it several times, here it is again.
Start at 40mcg/ed and ramp up 20mcg every 2-3wks (as needed.) Once I get up to around 140mcg, by then I have obviously been using clen for awhile, I will typically at that point be on it for appx 4-5wks, I will bump it up after that if needed, at this stage more like 40mcg at once...but have only done that a couple of times. Typically once i reach 140mcg the diet is winding down and it will end there.
As I begin to come off, I immediately drop the dose down to 40mcg/ed and will run this for appx 1-2wks.
I've found this the best way to run clen.
If it's going to be a relatively short period where you run it, say 6 wks, I'd still start at 40mcg but bump it 40mcg every wk by wk 4-6 you can just cruise at 120mcg, or even bump it up a little more towards the end.
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Xanax or Valium helps with the shakes, but I wouldn't take it all day since it's so addictive. Just take it when you really need it.
For example, if I have to give a presenation at work the last thing I want is to be nervous and shaking. Xanax takes care of it.
I bet muscle relaxers like Soma or pain meds like Vicodin would work well also, but again only on an as needed basis.
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Well, that's part of my point.
If you ramped up then you would help eliminate the shakes. More importantly you would be able to stay on for longer stints without having to do the yo-yo thing with the 2wk on 2wk off method.
I've posted how I do it several times, here it is again.
Start at 40mcg/ed and ramp up 20mcg every 2-3wks (as needed.) Once I get up to around 140mcg, by then I have obviously been using clen for awhile, I will typically at that point be on it for appx 4-5wks, I will bump it up after that if needed, at this stage more like 40mcg at once...but have only done that a couple of times. Typically once i reach 140mcg the diet is winding down and it will end there.
As I begin to come off, I immediately drop the dose down to 40mcg/ed and will run this for appx 1-2wks.
I've found this the best way to run clen.
If it's going to be a relatively short period where you run it, say 6 wks, I'd still start at 40mcg but bump it 40mcg every wk by wk 4-6 you can just cruise at 120mcg, or even bump it up a little more towards the end.
Arnold, this is nothing new, I've been using Clenbuterol for years......
As I said ramping up and down isn't in my interest and I didn't ask for advice on that.
I asked for help combating the sides, nothing more.
I'd rather not use benzos or anything like that either....
DIV
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Arnold, this is nothing new, I've been using Clenbuterol for years......
As I said ramping up and down isn't in my interest and I didn't ask for advice on that.
I asked for help combating the sides, nothing more.
I'd rather not use benzos or anything like that either....
DIV
Tell me something DIV, an accomplished 'powerlifter' like you who has no care or regard for a lean, muscular physique (as evidenced in previous posts) why would you possibly use clen ?!! you stated yourself that you lift for strength and size, not to 'look pretty' and that you are 'not a bodybuilder'
just curious...
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Tell me something DIV, an accomplished 'powerlifter' like you who has no care or regard for a lean, muscular physique (as evidenced in previous posts) why would you possibly use clen ?!! you stated yourself that you lift for strength and size, not to 'look pretty' and that you are 'not a bodybuilder'
just curious...
When I ordered the Clen, I bought in bulk meaning thousands of tabs......
Those tabs are sitting here and I need to run cycles just to justify their cost.
I also need to remember how it feels so I can answer questions on the forum.
Not the best justification, I know, but we all mistakes......... :-\
DIV
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When I ordered the Clen, I bought in bulk meaning thousands of tabs......
Those tabs are sitting here and I need to run cycles just to justify their cost.
I also need to remember how it feels so I can answer questions on the forum.
Not the best justification, I know, but we all mistakes......... :-\
DIV
If that is not dedication I don't know what is...lol.
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its not a stimulant that can effect sleep so i have no idea why it would give one the shakes... however there might be some kind of physiological explanation for it that i dont know of
What might a doc prescribe if you had tremors due to nervousness or due to certain physiological disease states? Beta-blockers! Of course taking beta-blockers to reduce the shakes from beta-agonists would defeat the purpose of taking clen in the first place.
Reducing or eliminating shakes by slowly ramping up the dosage of clen only means you are increasing the dosage just as much as sensitivity is going down. The fat loss effects are probably reduced as much too.
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What might a doc prescribe if you had tremors due to nervousness or due to certain physiological disease states? Beta-blockers! Of course taking beta-blockers to reduce the shakes from beta-agonists would defeat the purpose of taking clen in the first place.
Reducing or eliminating shakes by slowly ramping up the dosage of clen only means you are increasing the dosage just as much as sensitivity is going down. The fat loss effects are probably reduced as much too.
so basically clenbuterol causes "the shakes" through the same mechanism which nervousness would cause "the shakes" ?? pretty interesting.
also on your second point im glad you wrote that..ive always felt the same way although ive never actually put into into words or into anything understandable.
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so basically clenbuterol causes "the shakes" through the same mechanism which nervousness would cause "the shakes" ?? pretty interesting.
I'm sure there are other causes for tremors but since clen is a pretty specific, "clean", beta agonist then beta agonism must cause tremors (maybe I'm missing something here, perhaps alpha agonism has something to do with it too). My hands shake a little from ephedrine too, and I have used it for more than a decade, on and off, so I haven't grown tolerant to that side.
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i just drank a glass of tonic water before i went to bed, and another when i woke up. I got rid of the shakes and cramps.
bench
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years ago, i was told that your proper clen dose would raise your bodytemp .5-.75 degrees F.
any higher dose won't increase fat burn, only side effects and attenuation to the drug. once this dose is determined, doubling the dose won't cause any more fever, unlike DNP. it is this thermogenisis that causes the fatburn, so keep the dose as low as possible.
have no data, but sounds plausible
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any higher dose won't increase fat burn,
no i doubt this is true
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(maybe I'm missing something here, perhaps alpha agonism has something to do with it too).
if this is the case then how owuld yohimbine interact ? could reduce shakes, no? ( as well as boost fat burning)