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Title: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Deicide on November 28, 2008, 02:41:21 PM
Discuss...
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: CARTEL on November 28, 2008, 02:47:58 PM
Describe necessary.
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Decker on November 28, 2008, 03:04:05 PM
I think he means was our use of force justified.

Were we attacked?  Yes, the Japs attacked us.

Was war declared on us?  Yes, the krauts declared war on us shortly thereafter.

I would say that WWII was a necessary war. 

There have been 200 or so military interventions by the US since then. 
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Deicide on November 28, 2008, 03:05:38 PM
I think he means was our use of force justified.

Were we attacked?  Yes, the Japs attacked us.

Was war declared on us?  Yes, the krauts declared war on us shortly thereafter.

I would say that WWII was a necessary war. 

There have been 200 or so military interventions by the US since then.  

Were these necessary?
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Eisenherz on November 28, 2008, 03:08:20 PM
War is good for nothing.
Hitles was good for getting germany  out of bankruptcy
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Decker on November 28, 2008, 03:08:20 PM
Were these necessary?
200 is a lot of wars.  Korea was bullshit.  Viet Nam was bullshit.  Both Iraq wars were bullshit.  I don't know.
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Deicide on November 28, 2008, 03:09:21 PM
War is good for nothing.
Hitles was good for getting germany  out of bankruptcy

Oorlog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: CARTEL on November 28, 2008, 03:11:19 PM
Were these necessary?

Not sure. Probably some were, some weren't.

I figured it was a trick question since you guys want us to turn the other cheek 100% of the time no matter what.
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Deicide on November 28, 2008, 03:16:29 PM
Not sure. Probably some were, some weren't.

I figured it was a trick question since you guys want us to turn the other cheek 100% of the time no matter what.

Huh?

When was the US attacked? Last time was WWII. If the US is attacked, it should fight back, win the war and then come home, not engage in endless foreign adventurism...it drains the resources of the US, leads to worldwide resentment and is simply unnecessary.
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: CARTEL on November 28, 2008, 03:20:39 PM
Huh?

When was the US attacked? Last time was WWII. If the US is attacked, it should fight back, win the war and then come home, not engage in endless foreign adventurism...it drains the resources of the US, leads to worldwide resentment and is simply unnecessary.

When your country gets attacked, it is already too late.

Can you imagine the loss of civilian life we would have. We are living in a bubble over here. If a war happened on our soil, our pampered masses would be like lambs led to a slaughter.
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 28, 2008, 03:38:23 PM
When your country gets attacked, it is already too late.

Can you imagine the loss of civilian life we would have. We are living in a bubble over here. If a war happened on our soil, our pampered masses would be like lambs led to a slaughter.

i think we're at the point to where anything short of being nuked or the chinese invading by the milliions; any attakc short of that would be futile
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Dan-O on November 28, 2008, 03:39:29 PM
Huh?

When was the US attacked? Last time was WWII. If the US is attacked, it should fight back, win the war and then come home, not engage in endless foreign adventurism...it drains the resources of the US, leads to worldwide resentment and is simply unnecessary.

9/11/01

Oh, sorry...  does it only count if the attack is made is made by a sovereign country using tanks or bombs or warships or fighter aircraft?  This is the 21st century and the face of war has changed forever.

Idiotic "inside job" conspiracy theories aside, are you really going to sit there and tell me that wasn't an attack on the US, on US soil?  Not to mention the failed attempt to bring down the WTC in 1993.

WWII was considered unnecessary and unjust by many groups...  until certain things happened, like Germany invading Russia or the attack on Pearl Harbor.  Then even groups like the Isolationists, Socialists, Nationalists, Pacifists, et al signed on.  What would need to happen before you would consider US involvement to be justified?
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Deicide on November 28, 2008, 04:18:02 PM
When your country gets attacked, it is already too late.

Can you imagine the loss of civilian life we would have. We are living in a bubble over here. If a war happened on our soil, our pampered masses would be like lambs led to a slaughter.

So preemptive war in the style of the Japanese during WWII is the way to go?
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Deicide on November 28, 2008, 04:22:34 PM
9/11/01

Oh, sorry...  does it only count if the attack is made is made by a sovereign country using tanks or bombs or warships or fighter aircraft?  This is the 21st century and the face of war has changed forever.

Idiotic "inside job" conspiracy theories aside, are you really going to sit there and tell me that wasn't an attack on the US, on US soil?  Not to mention the failed attempt to bring down the WTC in 1993.

WWII was considered unnecessary and unjust by many groups...  until certain things happened, like Germany invading Russia or the attack on Pearl Harbor.  Then even groups like the Isolationists, Socialists, Nationalists, Pacifists, et al signed on.  What would need to happen before you would consider US involvement to be justified?

Which is why we invaded Iraq...because Saddam was responsible... ::)
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: OzmO on November 28, 2008, 08:51:04 PM
The problem with comparing 9/11 to regular war is that 9/11 was at its core a terrorist act.  Not an attack by a sovereign nation. 

It cannot realistically ever be compared to WW2
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on November 28, 2008, 09:37:37 PM
WWII necessary?  Haha.  The banks were funding boths sides of the war as usual.  Trying to fulfill their evil agenda.  Hitler would have been crushed easily by the Allied powers.  Unfortunately we've been brainwashed to believe otherwise.  The Nazis had very powerful people in very powerful positions, some right here in American politics. 
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 28, 2008, 10:34:02 PM
we conduct lots of wars that are necessary for our many goals.

bases in places, influence over lots of things.

we aren't playing defense of our homeland.  We're playing defense of our interests overseas.
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Deicide on November 29, 2008, 04:34:28 AM
we conduct lots of wars that are necessary for our many goals.

bases in places, influence over lots of things.

we aren't playing defense of our homeland.  We're playing defense of our interests overseas.


The Military Industrial Complex has to keep going.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: garebear on November 29, 2008, 05:26:02 AM
Which is why we invaded Iraq...because Saddam was responsible... ::)

Herein lies the fatal flaw of the 9/11 conspiracy theory.

If the US gov were just going to make up where the hijackers came from why not say AT LEAST a couple were from Iraq?

It makes zero sense.
Title: Re: Was the last necessary war we fought WWII?
Post by: Deicide on November 29, 2008, 05:47:39 AM
Herein lies the fatal flaw of the 9/11 conspiracy theory.

If the US gov were just going to make up where the hijackers came from why not say AT LEAST a couple were from Iraq?

It makes zero sense.

I am a 9/11 agnostic. So you're talking to the wrong person.