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Giants receiver Plaxico Burress accidentally shoots himself in the leg
BY RALPH VACCHIANO AND LARRY MCSHANE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Talented but troubled Giants wideout Plaxico Burress, adding to his litany of off-field woes, accidentally shot himself in the leg on Friday night, a source told the Daily News on Saturday.
Burress, 31, spent the night at a Manhattan hospital with the self-inflicted wound, according to the source. The injury was described only as non-life-threatening, and details of the accident remained sketchy.
The gun apparently discharged while Burress was inside the Latin Quarter, a midtown nightclub on Lexington Ave., ESPN.com reported. The club's Web site advertises Friday as Latin night, with "sportsmen galore" and "man hands pulling lady legs around their waists."
Police were investigating the incident along with NFL officials.
"We are gathering information, just like everyone else," said NFL spokesman Joe Browne.
Super Bowl hero Burress, who caught the game-winning pass from Eli Manning, was already expected to miss Sunday's game against the Washington Redskins with a hamstring injury.
The Giants were due on a Saturday afternoon flight to Washington. The team had no comment on the report.
Burress has become a season-long distraction for the Super Bowl champions, creating endless controversy with his bad behavior.
Burress's erratic antics have already cost him $204,000 in fines this year. He was suspended for one game after going AWOL, and benched for the first quarter of another game after skipping medical treatment.
Among his fines was a $45,000 penalty imposed by the NFL for verbally abusing an official.
Over his four seasons in New York, Burress has been fined more than 30 times by the Giants. He was also benched for a 2005 game in San Diego after showing up late for team meetings.
The season's litany of disasters came after Burress reached the pinnacle of his career. He caught the winning TD in the Giants' Super Bowl victory, and signed a five-year, $35 million contract in September.
Despite his woes, Burress is still the Giants' second-leading receiver this year with 35 catches and four TDs.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/11/29/2008-11-29_giants_receiver_plaxico_burress_accident.html
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he could be one of the greatest of all time if he just got his shit together.
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So had a concealed weapon inside an NYC nightclub and it discharged and he shot himself?? Two words: ha ha.
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that monkey could be one of the greatest of all time if he just got his shit together.
Nah, This guy could.
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Nah, This guy could.
haha!
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what a fucking twit.
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that monkey could be one of the greatest of all time if he just got his shit together.
why are you calling him a monkey? you racist prick
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They are too poor to buy some paint for matching helmets.
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So had a concealed weapon inside an NYC nightclub and it discharged and he shot himself?? Two words: ha ha.
I didn't think you could carry concealed in NYC.
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Plaxico has been a monster disappointment all season.
I drafted his monkey ass for both my fantasy teams and he's been benched in both leagues.
He'll never play for this team again! >:(
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Plaxico has been a monster disappointment all season.
I drafted his monkey ass for both my fantasy teams and he's been benched in both leagues.
He'll never play for this team again! >:(
Any word on how much time, if any, he is going to miss?
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Plaxico has been a monster disappointment all season.
I drafted his monkey ass for both my fantasy teams and he's been benched in both leagues.
He'll never play for this team again! >:(
why are you calling him a monkey? you racist prick
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good ol plexiglass
people rarely change :)
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Any word on how much time, if any, he is going to miss?
None from the Giants yet, but he's not going to be in uniform for me anymore.
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If he can play again this season, they need him. After that they need to get something decent in exchange for getting rid of his annoying ass.
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Nah, This guy could.
Is that a new way to carry the football?
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If he can play again this season, they need him. After that they need to get something decent in exchange for getting rid of his annoying ass.
They look pretty damn good so far, solid defense for sure.
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He's a Superbowl hero even though he's an idiot.
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why are you calling him a monkey? you racist prick
Nobody was talking to you, boy.
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I didn't think you could carry concealed in NYC.
you can get a special written permit if you are famous or receive threats.
Or you could just carry illegal and get your driver/friend to take credit in the rare chance you get caught with it.
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you can get a special written permit if you are famous or receive threats.
Or you could just carry illegal and get your driver/friend to take credit in the rare chance you get caught with it.
Can also get it if for special business purposes but I think it has to be insured or something.
Anyways, Plax is a fucking idiot. Superbowl hero and he still does this shit.
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Can also get it if for special business purposes but I think it has to be insured or something.
Anyways, Plax is a fucking idiot. Superbowl hero and he still does this shit.
Yep yep. There are circumstances when accidents can happen. Glocks for example, have no external safety, other than trigger safety practice and the inner trigger stop. Adjusting it when concealed, you can shoot yourself. When I was 21 and carrying, I was trying to hide a glock on a date with some anti-gun girl... damn near shot myself in the femoral artery. I felt my finger on trigger as I subtly tried to hide it... holy shit, life flashed before my eyes... never tried to hide it again.
Plax is an idiot tho. no doubt there.
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After doing a little research on my own, it has come to my attention that Burress actually shot himself in the thigh, and not in the foot.
Unless the Topic was done in more of a figuratively speaking light.
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Yep yep. There are circumstances when accidents can happen. Glocks for example, have no external safety, other than trigger safety practice and the inner trigger stop. Adjusting it when concealed, you can shoot yourself. When I was 21 and carrying, I was trying to hide a glock on a date with some anti-gun girl... damn near shot myself in the femoral artery. I felt my finger on trigger as I subtly tried to hide it... holy shit, life flashed before my eyes... never tried to hide it again.
Plax is an idiot tho. no doubt there.
That would've been a classic date gone wrong story.
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Yep yep. There are circumstances when accidents can happen. Glocks for example, have no external safety, other than trigger safety practice and the inner trigger stop. Adjusting it when concealed, you can shoot yourself. When I was 21 and carrying, I was trying to hide a glock on a date with some anti-gun girl... damn near shot myself in the femoral artery. I felt my finger on trigger as I subtly tried to hide it... holy shit, life flashed before my eyes... never tried to hide it again.
Plax is an idiot tho. no doubt there.
I'm sure it would have become a Getbig staple.
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Actually it looks like his replacement Dominek Hixon is a serious player. They don't even need him!
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The Giants' dream season was thrown into turmoil Saturday when Super Bowl star Plaxico Burress accidentally shot himself in the leg at a Manhattan nightclub and linebacker Antonio Pierce tried to hide the gun, police sources said.
Burress is expected to be arrested on felony weapons charges in the coming days, while Pierce's attorney was in frantic discussions with cops last night to stave off criminal charges, police sources said.
Burress' latest self-inflicted wound came after he was initially turned away from the LQ nightclub in midtown because he was packing heat, police sources said. Burress, 31, who was sporting flashy jewelry and carrying loads of cash, told club management he needed the gun to protect himself, sources said.
The mercurial Giant was waved inside the crowded Latin-themed club on Lexington Ave. about midnight. He downed several drinks, making already jittery security guards more nervous about his weapon.
As Burress was being led into a VIP area, with a drink in his hand, the gun slipped down his pants leg. He reached for the weapon, but fumbled it and it went off, sources said. The bullet tore through Burress' already injured right thigh, police said.
"[The bullet] went in and out. No bones," Chief Michael Collins, a police spokesman, said.
Pierce, 30, rushed to his bleeding teammate and applied pressure to the wound as Burress screamed in pain amid the hip-hop beats piping through the club, sources said. As he worked to slow the bleeding, Pierce berated Burress for bringing a loaded handgun into a club.
Panicking, Burress told his teammate not to call 911 for an ambulance, sources said.
Pierce helped the bloodied receiver out of the club before taking off with the gun and stashing it somewhere in New Jersey, sources said.
Burress was afraid to go to the hospital, but two hours after the shooting, at 2 a.m., his wife, Tiffany, and a friend escorted him to New York-Presbyterian Hospital Weill Cornell. He was treated and released at about 12:45 p.m., sources said.
But a hospital spokeswoman denied that Burress was ever there.
Cops only learned about the incident after Giants employees quietly reached out to the NYPD to report it, sources said.
When plainclothes officers from the NYPD and local cops arrived at Burress' mansion in Totowa, N.J., about 5 p.m., they were turned away by his wife - even after ringing the bell five times. "We've been through a lot today," a woman said from inside the home.
"Ma'am, we're talking to a box," one of the cops said, referring to the intercom system outside the house. After the chaotic night, Pierce headed to Washington Saturday to prepare for the Giants game against the Redskins today. His attorney told cops Pierce would cooperate if he wouldn't be charged, sources said.
A Giants rep left Washington Saturday to retrieve the gun in New Jersey and turn it over to investigators, police said.
Still, cops plan to get a warrant to search Pierce's car because they believe Burress had the gun in his vehicle.
Burress is expected to be charged with criminal possession of a weapon, a felony that carries a prison sentence of up to five years, sources said. "He went for his gun and fumbled it. And now it will cost him," a police source said.
Cops cannot arrest Burress until they obtain a warrant from the Manhattan district attorney's office, sources said.
The Giants confirmed the shooting. "This incident could become a matter for law enforcement officials," the Giants said. "Our primary concern is for Plaxico's health and well-being."
The state of Florida issued Burress a concealed weapon permit that expired in May. Even if it had been renewed, it wouldn't be recognized by authorities in New York or New Jersey.
Star running back Brandon Jacobs said Burress wasn't answering his phone. "I'm very concerned about him," Jacobs said. "I've been trying to call him, to see how he's doing."
Burress, who caught the Super Bowl-winning pass from Eli Manning in February, was already going to miss the Redskins game with a hamstring injury in the same leg where he was shot.
The team was in contact with NFL security as the investigation continued. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told the Daily News it was too soon to determine if the shooting was a violation of the league's personal conduct policy.
"That is premature," Aiello said. "We are working with the Giants to determine the facts."
Police began combing the club for evidence just before 5 p.m. Saturday. An employee turned over a spent .40 caliber shell casing, sources said.
Burress' high-profile agent, Drew Rosenhaus, did not return calls for comment.
Burress has become a season-long distraction, creating constant controversy with his disdain for punctuality, an on-field tirade at an official and problems at home.
Through the first 12 weeks of the season, the recidivist receiver has been fined, suspended and benched. Between lost salary and fines, Burress was out more than $200,000 since September.
The season's litany of troubles came after Burress earned a Super Bowl ring and financial security. His winning TD against the Patriots was followed seven months later by a new five-year, $35 million contract.
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What an idiot. Seriously, why do the ghetto types think they need to carry a weapon to protect themselves? Why do celebs think the laws don't apply to them?
Too bad it didn't really injure him, so he learns his lesson, because he surely won't learn it from the law; he'll likely get off with little punishment. Hopefully the NFL starts the Pacman progression of punishment on this clown.
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I hope they cut him before the season is over. No way he comes back next year.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3735040
Giants' Burress 'fully cooperating,' defense attorney says
ESPN.com news services
Updated: November 30, 2008, 1:07 PM ET
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Giants receiver Plaxico Burress has retained New York defense attorney Ben Brafman to represent him after the ninth-year veteran accidentally shot himself in the thigh Friday night at a Manhattan night club.
Brafman told ESPN's Sal Paolantonio that Burress will be interviewed Monday by New York police and is "fully cooperating" with authorities.
When asked about the whereabouts of the gun involved in the incident, Brafman said "we're dealing with that today with the police."
Giants general manager Jerry Reese said Sunday that he had yet to speak to Burress.
"I reached out to him," Reese said. "I did not get a return phone call."
Burress, who was out Friday night with Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce, was treated overnight and released from a New York hospital on Saturday afternoon.
According to an NFL official, the bullet went through the skin and muscle tissue of Burress' right thigh and did not hit any major arteries, and that there were no broken bones, Paolantonio reported.
NFL handgun policy prohibits players carrying weapons on NFL premises and NFL-related functions. It also prohibits any player having a gun without a proper permit or registration.
If Burress or Pierce are found to have broken the law, those offenses would subject them to penalties under the league's personal conduct policy.
"I would hope that fans of the New York Giants will give Plaxico the benefit of the doubt and the presumption of innocence -- something we're all supposed to be given in this country," Brafman said in a statement.
Reese told The Associated Press that Pierce had been interviewed by NFL security about the incident. The New York Daily News reported that Pierce had tried to hide Burress' gun.
Pierce was still expected to start Sunday against the Washington Redskins.
Check out the latest on WR Plaxico Burress, who accidentally shot himself in the leg on Friday.
"I'm disappointed this happened and that any of our guys would put themselves in this kind of situation," Giants CEO John Mara said Sunday. "Our first concern is for Plaxico's health and well-being. We were very relieved to find out he is OK. But yeah, I'm disappointed."
Police and NFL security are investigating whether there was a third Giants player who was present or involved, at the very least for gathering more information on the incident, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.
The team is considering placing Burress on the non-football injury reserved list, which would make him ineligible for the remainder of the season, sources said. It also would allow the Giants to recover some money already paid to Burress.
Additionally, a source told Mortensen that Burress has as much as $4.5 million tied to play-time incentives and active-roster status.
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Reminds of the Marbury stupidity. These are children who through talent have been permitted to postphone maturation and common sense for years.
Considering the outrageous fact that he didn't even attend the Giant's victory parade last winter, as well as all the other stuff before and after that, the Giants must've been smart enough to load that new contract with clauses. Hopefully much of his new money will be removed from pea-brain, teach him some needed reality.
NFL rules really don't matter, they're deferring to more serious potential criminal charges. NYC doesn't allow guns without permit, he didn't have one. Period
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Reminds of the Marbury stupidity. These are children who through talent have been permitted to avoid maturation and common sense for years.
Considering the outrageous fact that he did even attend the Giant's victory parade as well as all the other stuff, the Giants must've been smart enough to load that new contract with clauses. Hopefully much of his new money will be removed from pea-brain, teach him some needed reality.
NFL rules really don't matter, they're deferring to more serious potential criminal charged. NYC doesn't allow guns without permit, he didn't have one. Period
Exactly. He even violated those because he didn't have a permit for the weapon. If he gets probation and no jail time then I think other criminals, like him, should use it as the "Plaxico" defense. Proof positive that money can't buy class and intelligence.
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Didn't effect the G-men today.
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Didn't effect the G-men today.
That's impressive for the team and coaching. It'll be hard for anyone to beat them.
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That's impressive for the team and coaching. It'll be hard for anyone to beat them.
Honestly Dallas is the team tht scares me :-\
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Honestly Dallas is the team tht scares me :-\
You're easily impressed. Their season was on the rocks until a few weeks ago, now they're on a streak against some weak teams. Nothing great shown yet, not at all.
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Honestly Dallas is the team tht scares me :-\
I hate to agree (because I HATE the Cowboys) but outside of the Giants they are the most talented team in the NFC. If they're healthy, they're going to be a threat. I hope I'm wrong.
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they are the most talented team in the NFC.
The pundits have repeated this over and over again to the point that some believe it.
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Honestly Dallas is the team tht scares me :-\
They are the team that has the ability to knock you off. Whats the answer for Barber, Williams, Owens and Whitten? One of them is going to do damage no matter what you do.
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They are the team that has the ability to knock you off. Whats the answer for Barber, Williams, Owens and Whitten? One of them is going to do damage no matter what you do.
Manning,Jacobs,Ward,Bradshaw,Boss,Toomer,Hixon,and Smith ;)
the Giants offense averages the most points per game.the D just has to make enough stops.
but Dallas has enough on both sides of the ball to make it a helluva game.
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Dallas is the only team in football right now that worries me, as a far a getting to the SB is concerned.
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Manning,Jacobs,Ward,Bradshaw,Boss,Toomer,Hixon,and Smith ;)
the Giants offense averages the most points per game.the D just has to make enough stops.
but Dallas has enough on both sides of the ball to make it a helluva game.
The patriots averaged more points than any team in NFL history last year, and you see what happened to them. The Giants are clearly the best team in the NFL, but Dallas is a team I would be worried about. You catch them on the right night, and they could off you.
Yes you can pressure the qb....but Barber is a beast, and the short screen can be used to force you to respect the run. If that happens either owens, whitten or Williams will be open. The one thing that Dallas has that NE didn't have is a beast of a TE. Romo is smart enough to diagnose the blitz, and unload the ball fast.
Your real problem could be in picking your poisen. Blitz Romo and risk short dump offs to the backs, or passes over the middle to the te's. or play coverage and take on TO, Whitten and Roy Williams. You know TO is going to take two db's with him down the field, so what are you going to do about Williams at the second level, and Whitten in the seams? Again, the pats didn't have a TE threat like Whitten, so I think that adds a wrinkle you didn't see last year.
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Maybe it's nitpicking, but I'm concerned about the Giants constantly giving up good field position on special teams because of weak kick offs.
If a team like Dallas is constantly starting at their own 35-40, they will do damage.
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starting at about 1:30...
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Full article here
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3736356
The case drew the wrath of Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who has waged a long fight against illegal guns during his time in office. He called for a full prosecution of state law that requires mandatory prison for carrying a loaded handgun.
"I don't think anybody should be exempt from that, and I think it would be an outrage if we didn't prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, particularly people who live in the public domain, make their living because of their visibility -- they're the role models for our kids," Bloomberg said.
He also lashed out at the hospital, based on the allegation that officials may not have properly reported the shooting.
"It's just an outrage that the hospital didn't do what they were legally required to do. It's a misdemeanor, it's a chargeable offense, and I think the district attorney should certainly go after the management of this hospital. The lame excuse that they didn't know -- this is a world-class hospital," he said.
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I know that area pretty well. The club's at 48th and Lex., the police precinct's just a few streets up at 51st and Lex and NFL HQ's down the block on Park.
As you'd expect, that club's your typical shit-hop joint, hence his need for the money, the jewelry and then the gun to protect it with instead of just getting bodyguards. Then of course the knuckleheads who run the club who let him in knowing he had a guy.
The Glock he was carrying doesn't have a safety. The only smart way to carry it is in a holster, which of course he didnt have. Easy to have it go while fumbling with it.
Every year the NFL lectures the players against carrying guns, so it's not as though he didn't know better. Supposedly half of the NFL carries, indicating the thug side of the demographics unfortunately.
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I know that area pretty well. The club's at 48th and Lex., the police precinct's just a few streets up at 51st and Lex and NFL HQ's down the block on Park.
As you'd expect, that club's your typical shit-hop joint, hence his need for the money, the jewelry and then the gun to protect it with instead of just getting bodyguards. Then of course the knuckleheads who run the club who let him in knowing he had a gun.
The Glock he was carrying doesn't have a safety. The only smart way to carry it is in a holster, which of course he didnt have. Easy to have it go while fumbling with it.
Every year the NFL lectures the players against carrying guns, so it's not as though he didn't know better. Supposedly half of the NFL carries, indicating the thug side of the demographics unfortunately.
This is not fact you are stating here. The police report says that Burress claimed that he told club employees that he had the gun. But I guarantee that he didn't tell club workers that.
To protect their business, there is no way in hell that club owners will admit or testify in court that they allowed Plaxico to pack heat inside the club. No way in hell.
No permit for the gun?? Then that's a WRAP! Minimum 3.5 years mandatory jail sentence for carrying a concealed gun. Bloomberg's power and political influence will overpower even the best NY defense attorneys.
Plaxico is going to jail.
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starting at about 1:30...
lol. :)
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This is not fact you are stating here. The police report says that Burress claimed that he told club employees that he had the gun. But I guarantee that he didn't tell club workers that.
You don't know it and it was in fact reported in the paper.
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You don't know it and it was in fact reported in the paper.
It was reported that Plaxico CLAIMED he told the club workers he was carrying a gun(according to the police report).What evidence is there to support that the employees allowed him to carry a gun???
My point is that Plaxico is obviously full of shit. What legitimate licensed bar/club would allow you to carry a gun inside the premises once you have informed them of such?
It's a lie, plain and simple and there is no evidence to support that the club allowed him to do this. No employee at that club is on record as saying such.
Moot point. The idiot will be in jail by Summer 2009.
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It was reported that Plaxico CLAIMED he told the club workers he was carrying a gun(according to the police report).What evidence is there to support that the employees allowed him to carry a gun???
My point is that Plaxico is obviously full of shit. What legitimate licensed bar/club would allow you to carry a gun inside the premises once you have informed them of such?
You're getting in to semantics, could be one or ther other no one knows yet. Common sense that they were would likely notice it during searches and use of metal detectors.
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You're getting in to semantics, could be one or ther other no one knows yet. Common sense that they were would likely notice it during searches and use of metal detectors.
I hear you. I just thought you were trying to say that the situation was confirmed that he told the club employees that he was packing heat. I just think it's highly unlikely that they would allow him in the club knowing that he had a gun.
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It looks as though they did that, knew he was carrying and waved him through.
According to the New York Daily News, Burress told the Latin Quarter nightclub management that he had the gun on him — again, not guilty? — because he was afraid that the “flashy bling” he was wearing would get him held up.
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It looks as though they did that, knew he was carrying and waved him through.
According to the New York Daily News, Burress told the Latin Quarter nightclub management that he had the gun on him — again, not guilty? — because he was afraid that the “flashy bling” he was wearing would get him held up.
I work in media. Stars carry guns all the time, and you better believe many clubs and bars look the other way.
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I work in media. Stars carry guns all the time, and you better believe many clubs and bars look the other way.
Yeah. God forbid the club owner tells the celebrity that he can't bring his gun inside for fear of those same stars never coming in their club again.
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Yeah. God forbid the club owner tells the celebrity that he can't bring his gun inside for fear of those same stars never coming in their club again.
It's sad but true.
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I didn't think you could carry concealed in NYC.
You generally can't, so he probably broke the law there too. However, pro athletes, talk talk show hosts (Howard Stern for example), connected politicians, etc can get LTC in NYC, which is why guns laws are elitist, racist, and un Const. by there very nature. The wealthy, connected, and famous always get taken care of while the "regular folk" get screwed.
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Yep yep. There are circumstances when accidents can happen. Glocks for example, have no external safety, other than trigger safety practice and the inner trigger stop. Adjusting it when concealed, you can shoot yourself.
Only if you put your finger in the trigger guard while adjusting said gun which means your gun handling/safety skills suck. You can do that with any DAO pistol of course, but it's a gun handling thing, not a Glock thing per se.
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It's sad but true.
Maybe I'm not being realistic, but I still doubt Plaxico told anybody he was carrying gun. I mean, if Antonio Pierce is willing to testify to a grand jury that he didn't know Burress was carrying a gun then that leads me to believe that NOBODY knew he was carrying a gun, period.
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Maybe I'm not being realistic, but I still doubt Plaxico told anybody he was carrying gun. I mean, if Antonio Pierce is willing to testify to a grand jury that he didn't know Burress was carrying a gun then that leads me to believe that NOBODY knew he was carrying a gun, period.
You're right, you persist with the wrong line of reasoning; anything to avoid admitting you're wrong i guess. ???
It's been reported from the beginning that he told the club he was carrying, and if he hadn't he knew they'd frisk him and find it going thru the detector. They let him in because his celebrity helps the club and letting characters in to a shit-hop club while carrying's not that unusual, sadly.
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You're right, you persist with the wrong line of reasoning; anything to avoid admitting you're wrong i guess. ???
It's been reported from the beginning that he told the club he was carrying, and if he hadn't he knew they'd frisk him and find it going thru the detector. They let him in because his celebrity helps the club and letting characters in to a shit-hop club while carrying's not that unusual, sadly.
So basically that would mean Antonio Pierce had no idea that Burress was armed but the club workers did? Remember, Pierce is going to testify in front of a grand jury and tell the truth. Why would he commit perjury when he's not the main target of the investigation?
Sorry, not buying it. And you use the key word "reported". No hard facts to back that claim up so you really don't know either. Unless you're one of those types of people that believe everything they read in the newspaper.
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So basically that would mean Antonio Pierce had no idea that Burress was armed but the club workers did?
It's quite conceivable, especially if one went in without the other. Stretch your mind.