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Looks like he is being anointed.
GOP Looks to Louisiana's Governor
Jindal May Prove To be Republicans' Version of Obama
By Michael Leahy
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 30, 2008; Page A02
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa -- Last weekend, 18 days after Barack Obama decisively defeated their candidate for president, a mostly Republican crowd of self-described conservatives received their first introduction to someone many prominent members of the GOP think could be the party's own version of Obama.
Like the president-elect, Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana is young (37), accomplished (a Rhodes scholar) and, as the son of Indian immigrants, someone familiar with breaking racial and cultural barriers. He came to Iowa to deliver a pair of speeches, and his mere presence ignited talk that the 2012 presidential campaign has begun here, if coyly. Already, a fierce fight is looming between him and other Republicans -- former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, who arrived in Iowa a couple of days before him, and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who is said to be coming at some point -- for the hearts of social conservatives.
"The Republicans really have no choice except to look at some people more youthful if they want to have a better chance of winning," said Betty E. Johnson, an independent and the wife of a Cedar Rapids pastor, who voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004 but who went for Obama over 72-year-old John McCain. "I liked Obama's energy and hope. I don't know, but maybe a younger person would give Republicans a feeling of more energy, openness."
Jindal insists he is ignoring all the speculation. In Cedar Rapids, at a breakfast event devoted to addressing this beleaguered city's efforts to rebound from its disastrous flood last summer, he avoided any reference to 2012, staying focused on explaining Louisiana's methods for coping with hurricane floods in emergencies on his watch.
Meanwhile, others around the country were talking him up. No less an aspiring kingmaker than Steve Schmidt, the chief strategist of McCain's failed presidential bid, sees Jindal as the Republican Party's destiny. "The question is not whether he'll be president, but when he'll be president, because he will be elected someday." The anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist believes, too, that Jindal is a certainty to occupy the White House, and conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh has described him as "the next Ronald Reagan."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/29/AR2008112901777.html?hpid=topnews
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If Jindal leads the ticket in 2012... who will the racists vote for?
I have a hard time believing the stupid people who called Obama a muslim and didn't like him because of his skin color are going to vote for a guy that looks like this:
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If Jindal leads the ticket in 2012... who will the racists vote for?
I have a hard time believing the stupid people who called Obama a muslim and didn't like him because of his skin color are going to vote for a guy that looks like this:
true and he wont have the anybody to blindly vote for him just b/c of his skin color like obama did either...
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true and he wont have the anybody to blindly vote for him just b/c of his skin color like obama did either...
there is a shitload of dot-heads, look around man ::)
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true and he wont have the anybody to blindly vote for him just b/c of his skin color like obama did either...
LOL...
There are almost 3 million US residents of Indian descent.
You officially KNOW that not one of them will vote Jindal because of his skin color, huh?
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It's a long way from 2012 to start making predictions
having said that, I predict that Palin won't stand a chance in 2012 and the Repugs will move back to their roots (which means away from the christian kooks) if they want any chance of anything in 2012
oh yeah, and Obama's sweat will be shown to cure cancer
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the way FOX bashed the shit out of Palin following the election - it seemed like the repub 'powers that be' wanted her to be embarassed and soil any chances of her winning in 2012.
The FOX reporters knew about the 'africa is a country' and 'what countries are in NAFTA?' thing during the months of september and october, yet agreed to keep it off the record until after the election.
Burning her shows they don't want her fuccing things up in 2012. i'd like to see the Repub party put up the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE. Do I believe Palin is the most intelligent, logical, experienced, shrewd republican in the country? Does anyone believe that?
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the way FOX bashed the shit out of Palin following the election - it seemed like the repub 'powers that be' wanted her to be embarassed and soil any chances of her winning in 2012.
The FOX reporters knew about the 'africa is a country' and 'what countries are in NAFTA?' thing during the months of september and october, yet agreed to keep it off the record until after the election.
Burning her shows they don't want her fuccing things up in 2012. i'd like to see the Repub party put up the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE. Do I believe Palin is the most intelligent, logical, experienced, shrewd republican in the country? Does anyone believe that?
no serious Repug candidate is going to pick her as VEEP so her only "chance" would be as a presidential candidate...... please give me a few hours to stop laughing and I'll explain why she has less chance than those turkeys in her most recent youtube video.
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no serious Repug candidate is going to pick her as VEEP so her only "chance" would be as a presidential candidate...... please give me a few hours to stop laughing and I'll explain why she has less chance than those turkeys in her most recent youtube video.
On the democrat boards, they're pissing their pants with glee on the thought of a Palin vs. Obama ticket in 2012.
Honestly, if things are going well for Obama in 2010 and 2011, I doubt the major names like Romney or Jindal will waste their shot by running in 2012. You don't get second chances to run, and Obama won at 53% to 46%. It'd take a miracle for any repub candidate to topple Obama in the middle of his run. Methinks they'll put another Dole up as a sign of respect. Newt maybe?
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On the democrat boards, they're pissing their pants with glee on the thought of a Palin vs. Obama ticket in 2012.
Honestly, if things are going well for Obama in 2010 and 2011, I doubt the major names like Romney or Jindal will waste their shot by running in 2012. You don't get second chances to run, and Obama won at 53% to 46%. It'd take a miracle for any repub candidate to topple Obama in the middle of his run. Methinks they'll put another Dole up as a sign of respect. Newt maybe?
Or as people like Peter Schiff have predicted...there is much, much more economic shit in the hay coming...
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On the democrat boards, they're pissing their pants with glee on the thought of a Palin vs. Obama ticket in 2012.
Honestly, if things are going well for Obama in 2010 and 2011, I doubt the major names like Romney or Jindal will waste their shot by running in 2012. You don't get second chances to run, and Obama won at 53% to 46%. It'd take a miracle for any repub candidate to topple Obama in the middle of his run. Methinks they'll put another Dole up as a sign of respect. Newt maybe?
Newton will be too old and still just as poisoness as he currently is.
It's really hard to predict anything at this point .....except that it won't be Palin (IMHO)
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Or as people like Peter Schiff have predicted...there is much, much more economic shit in the hay coming...
I'm getting tired with that guy being right about everything.
I really think his prediction about the price of gold is just a bit nutty
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LOL...
There are almost 3 million US residents of Indian descent.
You officially KNOW that not one of them will vote Jindal because of his skin color, huh?
as opposed to how many ppl of african decent that voted for obama simply b/c of his skin color? My point is that it wouldnt be like obamas situation.
read between the lines.
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as opposed to how many ppl of african decent that voted for obama simply b/c of his skin color? My point is that it wouldnt be like obamas situation. read between the lines.
and all white people voted for McCain because of his skin color
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and all white people voted for McCain because of his skin color
i didnt say all did i? you think that a lot of african americans didnt vote for obama simply b/c he was black?
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i didnt say all did i? you think that a lot of african americans didnt vote for obama simply b/c he was black?
I just assumed that most voters looked at their choices and picked who they thought would be the best choice for POTUS.
No doubt some voted for him solely because he was black but then I assume some voted for McCain soley because he wasn't black (or looking at it another way - because he was white).
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totally off topic but Jindal makes Obama look like Ronnie Coleman.
That dude needs to bulk up a bit if he wants to take Obama in 2012
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I just assumed that most voters looked at their choices and picked who they thought would be the best candidate.
No doubt some voted for him solely because he was black but then I assume some voted for McCain soley because he wasn't black (or looking at it another way - because he was white).
I agree with you there.
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totally off topic but Jindal makes Obama look like Ronnie Coleman.
That dude needs to bulk up a bit if he wants to take Obama in 2012
LOL iono about that obama is pretty lanky but it does look like he exercises pretty regularly.
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LOL iono about that obama is pretty lanky but it does look like he exercises pretty regularly.
Jindal looks like a strong wind would knock him over.
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Jindal looks like a strong wind would knock him over.
hahahah
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skinny guy. Very odd and lanky when he moves.
You see a guy like Bill Clinton, he looks comfortable in his own skin. You don't see that with Jindal. quirky.
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skinny guy. Very odd and lanky when he moves.
You see a guy like Bill Clinton, he looks comfortable in his own skin. You don't see that with Jindal. quirky.
he is kind akward when he is moving but he is very confident and articulate and I would not say he wasnt comfortable in his own skin.
I didnt realize the 2012 election was going to have a runway walkoff as part of the election.
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I didnt realize the 2012 election was going to have a runway walkoff as part of the election.
2008 sure was. You don't think Palin's appearance had anything to do with her getting the nod over many more qualified, educated, and experienced people?
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2008 sure was. You don't think Palin's appearance had anything to do with her getting the nod over many more qualified, educated, and experienced people?
LOL oh ya but the same could be said about obama as well.
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LOL oh ya but the same could be said about obama as well.
Obama defeated the CLinton, then Rovian political machines.
Palin was SELECTED so "all us girls can finally break that glass ceiling!"
Obama was the smartest person in the Dem primary, although not experienced. He was also the best speaker, was on the right side of the war issue.
Palin showed up and held angry rallies. She wasn't the "best" at anything out of the other repub candidates. She was hired for her looks, plain and simple.
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Obama defeated the CLinton, then Rovian political machines.
Palin was SELECTED so "all us girls can finally break that glass ceiling!"
Obama was the smartest person in the Dem primary, although not experienced. He was also the best speaker, was on the right side of the war issue.
Palin showed up and held angry rallies. She wasn't the "best" at anything out of the other repub candidates. She was hired for her looks, plain and simple.
LOL we arent comparing the twos resume here...your statement was
2008 sure was. You don't think Palin's appearance had anything to do with her getting the nod over many more qualified, educated, and experienced people?
If you dont realize that obamas race did play a part in his getting the primary and the election then again your not being objective bro. He even realized it and played up the fact of his race, do you not remember this?
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LOL we arent comparing the twos resume here...your statement was If you dont realize that obamas race did play a part in his getting the primary and the election then again your not being objective bro. He even realized it and played up the fact of his race, do you not remember this?
yes and no...
I remember the interviews with lots of Dems who proudly said they're not voting Obama cause of his skin color. That racist belt of Penn, Ohio, Virginia...
Clinton won 90+% of the African-American vote.
Obama won 95+% of the African-American vote.
Was the extra 5% from his skin color, or the economy being so bad?
Hell, Mccain won the white vote by a mile, just as Bush did.
And Palin won a lot of Dem voters who voted Vagina.
To say Jindal won't enjoy an Indian vote is naive.
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yes and no...
I remember the interviews with lots of Dems who proudly said they're not voting Obama cause of his skin color. That racist belt of Penn, Ohio, Virginia...
Clinton won 90+% of the African-American vote.
Obama won 95+% of the African-American vote.
Was the extra 5% from his skin color, or the economy being so bad?
Hell, Mccain won the white vote by a mile, just as Bush did.
And Palin won a lot of Dem voters who voted Vagina.
To say Jindal won't enjoy an Indian vote is naive.
again it was meant to imply that it wouldnt be the same as obama as in not a big difference.
To think that obamas race didnt play a role in his election is niave as well...again he pandered to it during his campaign.
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I do not doubt that there could be many Indians across the USA who would vote for Jindal based on complexion,
...however, there will also be many others who will not. If Jindal is to get the nomination, it should be because he is the best person for the job, and not because the Republicans think they can use him as a "token" to run a Republican Obama. if they try that, the people will see right through it and it WILL cost them votes, ...maybe not the ones that say "I don't care, I'm voting for him because he's Indian.", just like he said in the video - 'The important thing is the message, not the messenger." Those who focus primarily on the messenger always get it wrong... Palin is a good example. ha!
It will be interesting to see what transpires, ...especially as a result of events in recent days.
I don't doubt a President that looks like Jindal could go a long way towards undermining the prevalent theme of the past 8 years vis-a-vis those with his complexion. I doubt elements in Pakistan would be crazy about having an Indian in the white house tho, ...there are a lot of messages one could read into that, ...especially the paranoid in Pakistan.
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I do not doubt that there could be many Indians across the USA who would vote for Jindal based on complexion,
...however, there will also be many others who will not. If Jindal is to get the nomination, it should be because he is the best person for the job, and not because the Republicans think they can use him as a "token" to run a Republican Obama. if they try that, the people will see right through it and it WILL cost them votes, ...maybe not the ones that say "I don't care, I'm voting for him because he's Indian.", just like he said in the video - 'The important thing is the message, not the messenger." Those who focus primarily on the messenger always get it wrong... Palin is a good example. ha!
It will be interesting to see what transpires, ...especially as a result of events in recent days.
I don't doubt a President that looks like Jindal could go a long way towards undermining the prevalent theme of the past 8 years vis-a-vis those with his complexion. I doubt elements in Pakistan would be crazy about having an Indian in the white house tho, ...there are a lot of messages one could read into that, ...especially the paranoid in Pakistan.
well whether you want to admit it obama wasnt the most qualified, most experienced or best candidate that the dems could have put up. So basically what you said wouldnt work for the reps seemed to work for the dems although the situation had a great deal to do with it.
Jindal has already shown his leadership under pressure and will have another 4 years of experience when the next election comes around...barring any unforseen events or burried skeletons he will be a major front runner for the rep nomination.
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well whether you want to admit it obama wasnt the most qualified, most experienced or best candidate that the dems could have put up. So basically what you said wouldnt work for the reps seemed to work for the dems although the situation had a great deal to do with it.
Jindal has already shown his leadership under pressure and will have another 4 years of experience when the next election comes around...barring any unforseen events or burried skeletons he will be a major front runner for the rep nomination.
It's as those Republican pundits called it a few months ago, ...when Republicans try to run on narrative, ...they lose!
If the relationship between Pakistan and India worsens, Republicans will have a lot to overcome in the mentality of their voter base.
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It's as those Republican pundits called it a few months ago, ...when Republicans try to run on narrative, ...they lose!
If the relationship between Pakistan and India worsens, Republicans will have a lot to overcome in the mentality of their voter base.
iono this guy was born and raised in lousianna, listen to him talk his accent makes him sound like a good ol boy I dont think they will have a big problem getting ppl to vote for this person
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iono this guy was born and raised in lousianna, listen to him talk his accent makes him sound like a good ol boy I dont think they will have a big problem getting ppl to vote for this person
The Republicans will run nothing but soundbytes and will keep the pictures to a minimum! Mark my words! :D
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iono this guy was born and raised in lousianna, listen to him talk his accent makes him sound like a good ol boy I dont think they will have a big problem getting ppl to vote for this person
He does sound like a generic Republican politician but the problem is he's reading from last years script and people clearly aren't buying that bullshit anymore.
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He does sound like a generic Republican politician but the problem is he's reading from last years script and people clearly aren't buying that bullshit anymore.
can you elaborate and give instances?
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The Republicans will run nothing but soundbytes and will keep the pictures to a minimum! Mark my words! :D
doubtful in my mind, weve seen what happens when you do that.
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can you elaborate and give instances?
I could but no time this morning. I watched the tape before I left for work this morning and all I heard were the same old talking points .....though I didn't make it all the way to the end so maybe he tried out a few new talking points that I haven't heard yet. Either way, he's sounds 5x better than Palin and he'd tie her in knots if they ever had a debate
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I could but no time this morning. I watched the tape before I left for work this morning and all I heard were the same old talking points .....though I didn't make it all the way to the end so maybe he tried out a few new talking points that I haven't heard yet. Either way, he's sounds 5x better than Palin and he'd tie her in knots if they ever had a debate
elaborate when you get a chance please
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elaborate when you get a chance please
I don't watch videos @ work (my own personal rule) so I'll have to look again later tonight when I get home.
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I don't watch videos @ work (my own personal rule) so I'll have to look again later tonight when I get home.
thats fine i wasnt trying to be dick just interested in what you think is the same...whenever you get around to it
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thats fine i wasnt trying to be dick just interested in what you think is the same...whenever you get around to it
no worries, I didn't think you were being a dick.
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Jindahl is a very impressive guy. He runs circles around Palin IMO.
2012 is too far for me yet. I am waiting to see what Obama does. His cabinet picks so far aren't bad and if he keeps taxes relatively low, I am excited to give him a chance.