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Title: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: upjacked on December 03, 2008, 09:43:50 PM
is it a significant amount?
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: chaos on December 03, 2008, 09:49:04 PM
is it a significant amount?
any gurus on here? by what % does it increase if any?
75% at least. AXA had great results 200% increase!!!  :o
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: WillGrant on December 03, 2008, 09:51:04 PM
BOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: CARTEL on December 03, 2008, 09:53:32 PM
Results may vary.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Go 4 It on December 03, 2008, 09:54:47 PM
You know what I started incorporating a ton of fats into my diet and I got my blood work done and my testosterone levels went up 65 points from my last blood work (which was about 5 months prior) no joke..
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: chaos on December 03, 2008, 09:56:40 PM
You know what I started incorporating a ton of fats into my diet and I got my blood work done and my testosterone levels went up 65 points from my last blood work (which was about 5 months prior) no joke..
Why do you get blood work done so often, are you on teh juice or do you have promiscuous sex with many coked up bar whores?
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: CARTEL on December 03, 2008, 09:58:00 PM
You know what I started incorporating a ton of fats into my diet and I got my blood work done and my testosterone levels went up 65 points from my last blood work (which was about 5 months prior) no joke..

To a 66?  :o That is no joke!
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Go 4 It on December 03, 2008, 10:01:38 PM
Haha, no juice at all.. I had pneumonia about a year and a half ago, so I get my blood work done every few months to make sure everything is alright, and I also had to go in to get a flu shot (my physician wanted me to get one). But I also make sure I don't catch anything (std wise) I've made some questionable decisions over the years, I think alot more before I make decisions these days. ;D
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Go 4 It on December 03, 2008, 10:03:19 PM
To a 66?  :o That is no joke!

Not 66 total..and it went up 65 points lol..
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: CARTEL on December 03, 2008, 10:04:08 PM
Not 66 total..and it went up 65 points lol..

Just messin' with ya  ;D
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone &
Post by: Moen on December 03, 2008, 10:06:26 PM
Don't believe in these things guys, if it actually did that wouldnt everyone be doing a diet like that?
Also, one test says nothing, you should do a blood test at least a few times because these things fluctuate
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone &
Post by: TechnoViking on December 03, 2008, 10:10:12 PM
Palumbo is a tad scary...He is 5'7 with a size 15 shoe for crying out loud


Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Go 4 It on December 03, 2008, 10:10:50 PM
Well I'm not trying to preach this stuff or anything, all I know is that I always stayed away from fat as much as possible, I always wanted to stay as lean as can be, I usually only ate chicken, ground turkey, tuna, egg whites, and whey as my primary protein sources, maybe 1 or 2 times a week I would throw in a steak. Since I've been doing this, I got bigger, stronger, fuller, feel better..it's not just an increase in testosterone, overall I feel alot better!
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: upjacked on December 03, 2008, 10:11:09 PM
You know what I started incorporating a ton of fats into my diet and I got my blood work done and my testosterone levels went up 65 points from my last blood work (which was about 5 months prior) no joke..
how long were you on it?
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Go 4 It on December 03, 2008, 10:14:34 PM
how long were you on it?

I was only on the Palumbo diet for 11 days prior to Mr. GetBig, but I now incorporate alot of fats in my diet, all full eggs, alot of red meat, fattier fish (salmon), nuts (almonds, walnuts, brazil) oils (macadamia & olive).
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Go 4 It on December 03, 2008, 10:28:25 PM
The Palumbo diet will definitely dry you out, I dropped like 7 pounds in 11 days before Mr. Getbig, without carbs theres alot less water retention in the body. Good diet for the summer or just trying to lean out, right now I'm trying to bulk up, so I'm eating just about everything, but I'm making sure to take in a ton of fats no matter what.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Method101 on December 03, 2008, 10:36:15 PM
I wouldn't advise eating high fat high carb at the same time  :-\ alot of problems, either one or the other
that's what I read on the internet  :D
no shit sherlock, carbs = insulin = fat storage. btw the palumbo diet works better for dave palumbo etc. because they inject insulin after a workout and don't need to eat carbs for it.

am i right?  ??? :D
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Wiggs on December 03, 2008, 10:57:38 PM
I'm four days into it.  I fucking hate the process it takes to go into ketosis.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 03, 2008, 11:41:32 PM
that new 'search' bar in the youtube windows is distracting.  Is it like that on all their embeds now?
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Eisenherz on December 03, 2008, 11:50:17 PM
no shit sherlock, carbs = insulin = fat storage. btw the palumbo diet works better for dave palumbo etc. because they inject insulin after a workout and don't need to eat carbs for it.

am i right?  ??? :D

Nothing wrong with eating carbs and fat at the same time. The insulin will not store the fat as fat, study biochemistry and you will learn. And when you eat carbs and fat at the same time your body wont just use the carbs as energy and store the fat.. its complete bs you metabolism doesnt work that way.
Now stop eating like someone with an eating disorder and combine your food in which ever way you like.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: WillGrant on December 03, 2008, 11:54:58 PM
I wanna try it, just for an experiement
wouldn't mind seeing the bottom row of my abs again  ;D I've been downing lot of food for the last little while  :'(
:D
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Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Method101 on December 03, 2008, 11:55:38 PM
Nothing wrong with eating carbs and fat at the same time. The insulin will not store the fat as fat, study biochemistry and you will learn. And when you eat carbs and fat at the same time your body wont just use the carbs as energy and store the fat.. its complete bs you metabolism doesnt work that way.
Now stop eating like someone with an eating disorder and combine your food in which ever way you like.
post your picture "eisenherz" you must be a beast with all this knowledge of "biochemistry"
 :D
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Eisenherz on December 04, 2008, 12:20:48 AM
post your picture "eisenherz" you must be a beast with all this knowledge of "biochemistry"
 :D

Do you need to be a chef to know that a dish tastes bad?
Please learn to offer something useful in a conversation. It will help you and others in life.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 04, 2008, 05:57:44 PM
no shit sherlock, carbs = insulin = fat storage. btw the palumbo diet works better for dave palumbo etc. because they inject insulin after a workout and don't need to eat carbs for it.

am i right?  ??? :D
lmao no you are way way wrong
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 04, 2008, 05:59:40 PM
Nothing wrong with eating carbs and fat at the same time. The insulin will not store the fat as fat, study biochemistry and you will learn. And when you eat carbs and fat at the same time your body wont just use the carbs as energy and store the fat.. its complete bs you metabolism doesnt work that way.
Now stop eating like someone with an eating disorder and combine your food in which ever way you like.
no actually yes it does work that way insulin release occurs in response to elevated blood sugar which occurs after you eat carbohydrates.. the presence of insulin in the blood stream at the same time as the presence of fatty acids makes the storeage of fatty acids into adipose VERY VERY easy.. almost unavoidable
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 04, 2008, 06:03:08 PM
tell us more, which is better,
high fat moderate protein low carb
or high carb moderate protein low fat?
depends

but IMO

offseason = high protein moderate carb moderate fat (carbs around workout fats rest of day)

cutting = millions ways to skin a cat. but [[ moderate protein -- moderate fat -- zero starch/fructose/lactose ]]  seems to be nice for  a cutting diet.   but you could also go [[ high protein-- moderate carb -- zero fat ]] ... or anything really that has sufficient protein and a caloric defecit and re feeds to ensure optimal hormones
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 04, 2008, 06:10:16 PM
surely the body have another mechanism to store the fat without insulin
and isn't it the easiest macronutrient to store as fat since it already is fat and needs no conversion?
I read that on the internet  :D
  yes ..ever eat a few jars of peanut butter ? not much if any insulin release at all from that but youll get fat from it.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:12:39 PM
  yes ..ever eat a few jars of peanut butter ? not much if any insulin release at all from that but youll get fat from it.

as if I could  ;D I'd end up throwing up after the first jar lol


Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Method101 on December 05, 2008, 05:42:53 AM
lmao no you are way way wrong
care to explain then doctor? please include a picture of yourself so we can see what you have attained with your knowledge of drugs.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 05, 2008, 11:25:21 AM
care to explain then
sure


if you use insulin

you eat tons of carbs (well, you drink lots of simple carbs)


so what you said was the exact opposite of what is reality
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Eisenherz on December 05, 2008, 07:18:56 PM
no actually yes it does work that way insulin release occurs in response to elevated blood sugar which occurs after you eat carbohydrates.. the presence of insulin in the blood stream at the same time as the presence of fatty acids makes the storeage of fatty acids into adipose VERY VERY easy.. almost unavoidable

Like I said. I hate repeating myself, but this is false Taylor.
An example I can think of to prove you wrong is this. Keep your caloric intake at maintanance, then combine saturated fats or any fat with a high carb meal.  According to your belief (which is false) you should be gaining excess adipose tissue on your body and therefore gain weight.
However you will see that this is not the case.
Study some biochem if this stuff interests you, you will see the light.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Eisenherz on December 05, 2008, 07:28:53 PM
tell us more, which is better,
high fat moderate protein low carb
or high carb moderate protein low fat?

Buddy the best way to cut is to do it the healthy way and  not to follow  "fad" diets, as in high carb/low carb etc etc.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: thewickedtruth on December 05, 2008, 07:31:25 PM
test is a cholesterol.. having more cholesterol in your diet should equate to more test..  ;D

Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 05, 2008, 08:45:12 PM
Like I said. I hate repeating myself, but this is false Taylor.
An example I can think of to prove you wrong is this. Keep your caloric intake at maintanance, then combine saturated fats or any fat with a high carb meal.  According to your belief (which is false) you should be gaining excess adipose tissue on your body and therefore gain weight.
However you will see that this is not the case.
Study some biochem if this stuff interests you, you will see the light.
  you wont gain WEIGHT, because of the laws of thermodynamics, BUT you will gain body fat , and your body composition will degrade.    ;)   
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Eisenherz on December 05, 2008, 11:13:26 PM
  you wont gain WEIGHT, because of the laws of thermodynamics, BUT you will gain body fat , and your body composition will degrade.    ;)   

Think about what you just wrote. ;)
The only way if your body compisition will degrade while your weight stays the same is if you are losing muscle thats being replaced by fat.
If your beliefs benefit you by all means believe them, I'm not trying to change them, I'm just offering insight.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Bobby on December 06, 2008, 02:56:13 AM
no actually yes it does work that way insulin release occurs in response to elevated blood sugar which occurs after you eat carbohydrates.. the presence of insulin in the blood stream at the same time as the presence of fatty acids makes the storeage of fatty acids into adipose VERY VERY easy.. almost unavoidable

If that's true then you can never eat rice & steak (or any kind of red meat) ???
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 06, 2008, 12:15:58 PM

Think about what you just wrote. ;)
The only way if your body compisition will degrade while your weight stays the same is if you are losing muscle thats being replaced by fat.
If your beliefs benefit you by all means believe them, I'm not trying to change them, I'm just offering insight.
let me make thi VERY simple

insulin = storeage hormone

protein = cant be stored
carbs= stored in muscle
fats = stored in FAT

insulin + fat = fat stored in fat

 :D

get it now ?
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: Eisenherz on December 06, 2008, 01:40:29 PM
let me make thi VERY simple

insulin = storeage hormone

protein = cant be stored
carbs= stored in muscle
fats = stored in FAT

insulin + fat = fat stored in fat

 :D

get it now ?

No, false lol.
Your biochemical pathways dont work like that. Insulin does not store fat as fat mmkay?..
Please read what i write before you post.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 06, 2008, 01:59:22 PM
Insulin does not store fat as fat mmkay?..

  :-\

 yes it does
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 04:10:25 PM
let me make thi VERY simple

insulin = storeage hormone

protein = cant be stored
carbs= stored in muscle
fats = stored in FAT

insulin + fat = fat stored in fat

 :D

get it now ?
Um no its actualy a "shuttle" hormone.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 06, 2008, 08:58:44 PM
Um no its actualy a "shuttle" hormone.
lmao what the heellll its a "shuttle" hormone.. haha... no its a 'storeage hormone' that 'shuttles' nutrients into cells... but whatever dude the two terms basically mean the exact same thing so its a mute note
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 09:02:09 PM
lmao what the heellll its a "shuttle" hormone.. haha... no its a 'storeage hormone' that 'shuttles' nutrients into cells... but whatever dude the two terms basically mean the exact same thing so its a mute note
Its what its refured to by people who actualy have a need to use it , not steroid board slang..run along lil guy
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 06, 2008, 09:12:48 PM
Its what its refured to by people who actualy have a need to use it , not steroid board slang..run along lil guy
lol whatever idiot  ::)   ;D 
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 09:14:25 PM
lol whatever idiot ::)   ;D 
Epic Irony  :D
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: tbombz on December 06, 2008, 09:17:10 PM
post your SAT scores will, ill do the same right after, promise.
Title: Re: how much do high fat "anabolic" "palumbo" type diet increase testosterone & HGH?
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 09:20:57 PM
post your SAT scores will, ill do the same right after, promise.
We are in diff parts of the world..SAT has no meaning to me  ;)