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Title: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 07, 2008, 02:52:14 PM
Check out this shot from 1983  :o  :o  :o  now imagine what he would have been on the good stuff
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 07, 2008, 02:52:51 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: tbombz on December 07, 2008, 02:56:33 PM
"on the good stuff"

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Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: leonp1981 on December 07, 2008, 02:57:32 PM
"on the good stuff"

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Creatine, I think?

 ;D
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 07, 2008, 02:57:50 PM
"on the good stuff"

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Muscletech lol
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Karl Kox on December 07, 2008, 03:01:06 PM
Muscletech lol


No Bad Ass Mass
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Ursus on December 07, 2008, 03:03:45 PM
He wudda been ronnie coleman
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Parker on December 07, 2008, 03:10:00 PM
It's been said that Matt Mendenhall was the beginning of the Freaks, but I think it was Bertil Fox. If was on the stuff of today, there would be no Dorian. Period.Ronnie Coleman, Ha, ha, he would have a hard time...But Fox right now is trying to keep the noose from around his neck.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Megalodon on December 07, 2008, 03:10:08 PM
Bertil Fox would be at least 40 pounds heavier with the aid of today's ergogenics such as whey and HMB which largely account for the incredible mass of today's bodybuilders.  Had he added CLA and creatine it's feasible Brutal would have tipped the scales at a lean 310 lbs.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: tbombz on December 07, 2008, 03:13:43 PM
okay in all seriousness bertil had available to him the best in AAS and was using as much if not more AAS (and HG too) as the mass monsbers of today. any extra size would come at the expense of symety and cuts..just like we see in todays mass monsters. 
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Parker on December 07, 2008, 03:31:01 PM
okay in all seriousness bertil had available to him the best in AAS and was using as much if not more AAS (and HG too) as the mass monsbers of today. any extra size would come at the expense of symety and cuts..just like we see in todays mass monsters. 

Naw, disagree, the fucker was still growing. He needed more mass on his back. He  would have grown more...Bigger arms, legs, chest.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 07, 2008, 03:31:55 PM
I heard he could REALLY kick ass...
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Megalodon on December 07, 2008, 03:32:29 PM
okay in all seriousness bertil had available to him the best in AAS and was using as much if not more AAS (and HG too) as the mass monsbers of today. any extra size would come at the expense of symety and cuts..just like we see in todays mass monsters. 

Insulin and IGF-1 factor in as well.


Making children in in subsequent(next 2) after-posts feel powerful with their "knowledge" of IGF-1. Oh brother ::)
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: QuakerOats on December 07, 2008, 03:33:52 PM
he was on the "good stuff" dumbass, i love how these guys pull this "IGF-1" bullshit out of their ass, ask any pro what it even is and they look at you like you stepped off a spaceship, biggest urban myth in bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: pumpster on December 07, 2008, 04:09:07 PM
he was on the "good stuff" dumbass, i love how these guys pull this "IGF-1" bullshit out of their ass

Exactly my thoughts. I doubt this clown even lifts let alone knows anything about IGF other than trying to impress by dropping a few acronyms LOL
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Rearden Metal on December 07, 2008, 05:53:12 PM
he was on the "good stuff" dumbass, i love how these guys pull this "IGF-1" bullshit out of their ass, ask any pro what it even is and they look at you like you stepped off a spaceship, biggest urban myth in bodybuilding.

You're way off here, QO. PM me if you want details.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 07, 2008, 05:57:01 PM
Exactly my thoughts. I doubt this clown even lifts let alone knows anything about IGF other than trying to impress by dropping a few acronyms LOL

like you know anything about training when you use a BowFlex keep following me from thread to thread you puppy  ;)
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 07, 2008, 06:00:27 PM
You're way off here, QO. PM me if you want details.

Ha ha ha ha right on the money ! no kidding he's way off  , he doesn't know the first thing about bodybuilding just look at his physique .
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: solida on December 07, 2008, 06:05:20 PM
Why would Rich Gaspari want to look like that ? His physique was amazing, maybe if he was three or four inches taller.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 07, 2008, 06:10:10 PM
he was on the "good stuff" dumbass, i love how these guys pull this "IGF-1" bullshit out of their ass, ask any pro what it even is and they look at you like you stepped off a spaceship, biggest urban myth in bodybuilding.

he was on the good stuff for the time , human growth hormone wasn't readily available in the early 1980s never mind the synthetic version and do some more research before you type or you run the risk of looking stupid oh wait this is you we're talking about you don't need to run that risk
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: odilly on December 07, 2008, 06:12:56 PM
if he had gotten the good stuff he would have slayed them
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: tbombz on December 07, 2008, 06:23:32 PM
he was on the good stuff for the time , human growth hormone wasn't readily available in the early 1980s never mind the synthetic version and do some more research before you type or you run the risk of looking stupid oh wait this is you we're talking about you don't need to run that risk
but if he gains size from gh use (gains size from igf-1), then he will probably get a distended abdomen just like the bigger guys today. and if he gains size from insulin and diets down with insulin like guys today, then hell probably lose cuts and seperation like big guys today.

the physiques are directly correlated to drug useage...
heavy anabolic useage = ripped as hell and aesthetic and good muscle (80's look).....
hevay anabolic useage plus gh = ripped as hell with big gut and huge muscles.... 
 heavy anabolic useage plus hevay gh useage plus hevay insuli useage = huge as fuck muscles with distended gut and not seperation..
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 07, 2008, 06:31:34 PM
but if he gains size from gh use (gains size from igf-1), then he will probably get a distended abdomen just like the bigger guys today. and if he gains size from insulin and diets down with insulin like guys today, then hell probably lose cuts and seperation like big guys today.

the physiques are directly correlated to drug useage...
heavy anabolic useage = ripped as hell and aesthetic and good muscle (80's look).....
hevay anabolic useage plus gh = ripped as hell with big gut and huge muscles.... 
 heavy anabolic useage plus hevay gh useage plus hevay insuli useage = huge as fuck muscles with distended gut and not seperation..

I agree he only competed at around 210 pounds so he had room to improve especially if it was with heavy AAS and GH and I remember when Labrada was on PBW he said that the combo of GH AAS and Isulin was responsible for the huge guts as well as the increasing lack of separation I guess it's a trade off but he would have really benefitted from GH because he was easily one of the strongest pros of his time .
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: THEBOSS on December 07, 2008, 08:44:53 PM
 ;) he would have killed more women before he got caught ! ;D
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: dustin on December 07, 2008, 08:46:39 PM
Honestly, the bodybuilders from that era were better off not using heavy peptides. They are miraculous drugs when they're not abused.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: WillGrant on December 07, 2008, 08:51:39 PM
" WHAT IF" Is So big for two lil words. , the fact is noone will ever know..keep fantasizing..he could have become a freak or like candi said ended up looking a bloated mess..no one will ever know.

Im sure its pretty far from his mind at present , the noose tightening round his neck is his main concern currently.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: WillGrant on December 07, 2008, 08:52:30 PM
Honestly, the bodybuilders from that era were better off not using heavy peptides. They are miraculous drugs when they're not abused.
Agree , the guys from that era look much better than the mess of today
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: TechnoViking on December 07, 2008, 09:40:03 PM
Imagine what Bertil's arms would look like if he got a hold of some of Phil Heath's "medicine"
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: leonp1981 on December 08, 2008, 09:16:24 AM
Imagine what Bertil's arms would look like if he got a hold of some of Phil Heath's "medicine"

Or Kamali's 'Magic Powder'?   ;)
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Mars on December 08, 2008, 09:54:26 AM
wasn't this guy like 5'0 tall? he could never be a mass monster.

he was.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 08, 2008, 10:48:17 AM
but if he gains size from gh use (gains size from igf-1), then he will probably get a distended abdomen just like the bigger guys today. and if he gains size from insulin and diets down with insulin like guys today, then hell probably lose cuts and seperation like big guys today.

the physiques are directly correlated to drug useage...
heavy anabolic useage = ripped as hell and aesthetic and good muscle (80's look).....
hevay anabolic useage plus gh = ripped as hell with big gut and huge muscles.... 
 heavy anabolic useage plus hevay gh useage plus hevay insuli useage = huge as fuck muscles with distended gut and not seperation..

I agree with you here, but I'm surprised to see you write this. You have always touted the superiority of the modern, bloated, non-separated pros over their earlier, more refined counterparts. Perhaps you're getting a more discerrning eye.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 10:49:25 AM
wasn't this guy like 5'0 tall? he could never be a mass monster.

No in fact I think he was 5'8"
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 08, 2008, 10:49:46 AM
wasn't this guy like 5'0 tall? he could never be a mass monster.
Try 5'8".
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 08, 2008, 10:50:47 AM
No in fact I think he was 5'8"
Hey, we wrote that at the same time. Weird.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: The Coach on December 08, 2008, 10:52:02 AM
Check out this shot from 1983  :o  :o  :o  now imagine what he would have been on the good stuff

He wouldn't have looked nearly as good. he would have looked they way they look today.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Man of Steel on December 08, 2008, 10:57:24 AM
betil was definitely a super-negroid.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Ursus on December 08, 2008, 12:30:50 PM
My gym owner is around 5'8 and when he was with Bertil in his gym in leeds (one that put reg parks outta business) he said he was much taller than him
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: BayGBM on December 08, 2008, 12:47:57 PM
Check out this shot from 1983  :o  :o  :o  now imagine what he would have been on the good stuff

Dead. ???
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Ursus on December 08, 2008, 01:02:04 PM
Victor put his hand up to his chin/nose to show where he came up to
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: johnny1 on December 08, 2008, 01:28:51 PM
Incredible to think Bertil competed @ 210-215lbs in Contest condition, his Muscle belly's were Fantastic as was his Conditioning especially @ the 83 O, heres a couple more Common ones of the Man from 1981.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: QuakerOats on December 08, 2008, 01:49:15 PM
betil was definitely a super-negroid.
hahahaha, kinda looks like Denzel Washington.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 01:51:16 PM
Hey, we wrote that at the same time. Weird.
lol great minds
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: WillGrant on December 08, 2008, 03:49:52 PM
I agree with you here, but I'm surprised to see you write this. You have always touted the superiority of the modern, bloated, non-separated pros over their earlier, more refined counterparts. Perhaps you're getting a more discerrning eye.
Have you heard the term "human parrot"
He spews some absolute crap forth then gets absolutly pasted by people who know what they are talking about and a week later he changes his oppinion and starts putting forth the oppinions of those that put him right, making him self seem smarter than he actualy is..


Under his candi account I corrected him many times about training and he would argue and bitch that he was right , now he is repeating what I said when I corrected him and passing it off as info..I notice he does this alot though, he does a complete about face,maybe its being young and its all part of growing up?
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 08, 2008, 04:02:13 PM
Have you heard the term "human parrot"
He spews some absolute crap forth then gets absolutly pasted by people who know what they are talking about and a week later he changes his oppinion and starts putting forth the oppinions of those that put him right, making him self seem smarter than he actualy is..


Under his candi account I corrected him many times about training and he would argue and bitch that he was right , now he is repeating what I said when I corrected him and passing it off as info..I notice he does this alot though, he does a complete about face,maybe its being young and its all part of growing up?

I have noticed some inconsistantcies, especially with this newfound sexual orientation, unless the theory that T-Bombz is a cunning Candidizzle impersonator, intent on further humiliating him by claiming to have sex with men, is true.
Title: Re: Imagine Bertil on GH and IGF-1?
Post by: Danimal77 on December 08, 2008, 04:18:22 PM
I agree he only competed at around 210 pounds so he had room to improve especially if it was with heavy AAS and GH and I remember when Labrada was on PBW he said that the combo of GH AAS and Isulin was responsible for the huge guts as well as the increasing lack of separation I guess it's a trade off but he would have really benefitted from GH because he was easily one of the strongest pros of his time .

Excuse me, but he also competed at 230 and 235 pounds as well PRE-1983. The man was an easy 260 pounds in the offseason and sported legite 22" biceps. Him, Tom Platz and Casey Viator were all monsters in the gym and all should have competed at much heavier bodyweights but alas, the judges prefered a Frank Zane at 180 pounds, rather than a 240 pounds Casey, 235 pound Platz and a 260 pound Fox. Even Levrone would have looked even more awesome at 260 pounds +. Those men knew how to carry that size well. NONE of them had GH guts. God, I would have loved to even see Arnold at 260-280 pounds in his prime on stage.  :o