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Hear this being discussed in regards to Obama. I've always considered it one for anyone who started/continues in the last 25 years. Before that, people didn't know the consequences as clearly. Now I look at it like obesity. Clear sign of a lack of willpower.
thoughts?
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its a sign of honor
Warriors live life on the edge and die young
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its a sign of honor
Warriors live life on the edge and die young
the one's see hacking and coughing don't really seem to look very honorable...
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Hear this being discussed in regards to Obama. I've always considered it one for anyone who started/continues in the last 25 years. Before that, people didn't know the consequences as clearly. Now I look at it like obesity. Clear sign of a lack of willpower.
thoughts?
or maybe they just enjoy the buzz? ::)
is eating chicken wings a sign of weakness?
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or maybe they just enjoy the buzz? ::)
is eating chicken wings a sign of weakness?
haha, you look like you hit the pipe, but I'm talking about cigarettes. Let the full-grown men talk now.
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What point are you trying to make showstoppa? Obama is weak willed because he smokes cigarettes?
The guy has a Law degree from Harvard, and is president. He is doing something right.
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not quitting is a sign of weakness
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What point are you trying to make showstoppa? Obama is weak willed because he smokes cigarettes?
The guy has a Law degree from Harvard, and is president. He is doing something right.
Just a question. In an age where everybody knows what the shit does to you, why would he continue to smoke? He's obviously very bright (understatement), has a strong work ethic and appears to work-out on a fairly regular basis, so why not stop doing something that will, by all accounts, lead to health problems?
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not really.. not quiting is fearless.
its the weak bitches who are scared of cancer that quit.
the strong live life in the moment... like its their last day on earth.
haha, I used to know a guy who said he wasn't a quitter, so he wouldn't quit...hahaha
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not really.. not quiting is fearless.
its the weak bitches who are scared of cancer that quit.
the strong live life in the moment... like its their last day on earth.
yea, the chris farley method huh... ::)
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not really.. not quiting is fearless.
its the weak bitches who are scared of cancer that quit.
the strong live life in the moment... like its their last day on earth.
if you're doing it to be cool, then I'm with you all the way!
::)
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Sign of mental weakness, at least for me.
Really joyous are a few cigs after that you are abusing it to comfort yourself.
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not really.. not quiting is fearless.
its the weak bitches who are scared of cancer that quit.
the strong live life in the moment... like its their last day on earth.
x2 maybe he just doesn't give a fuck
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Its a sign of lack of self-respect.
I am suprised Obama smokes. I suspect he will stop soon. He is a huge role model for black Americans, and for that reason alone he should stop, let alone his own health.
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Its a sign of lack of self-respect.
I am suprised Obama smokes. I suspect he will stop soon. He is a huge role model for black Americans, and for that reason alone he should stop, let alone his own health.
Are you saying only black Americans should stop smoking? Isn't he half-white? Maybe half of black Americans and half of white Americans should stop smoking.
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Hear this being discussed in regards to Obama. I've always considered it one for anyone who started/continues in the last 25 years. Before that, people didn't know the consequences as clearly. Now I look at it like obesity. Clear sign of a lack of willpower.
thoughts?
spot on.
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spot on.
What kills me is to see a fat person smoking...and we wonder why we have such a strain on our healthcare system? That just adds to the problem along with illegals, people who can't afford it/won't sacrifice for it, etc...
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Are you saying only black Americans should stop smoking? Isn't he half-white? Maybe half of black Americans and half of white Americans should stop smoking.
I think all people who smoke are idiots.
Regarding Obama being a role model to black Americans, well he might be a role model to some white Americans too, but I think overall he is likely to be a much greater rolemodel of influence to black Americans rather than whites.
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Man, I hate smoking and the lies that smokers come up with, but looking at Obama and all what he's done, I'll refrain from giving him a lecture. Better not hear that hear that the brother is a nipper or I might have to have words. :D
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Sign of addiction. ;)
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So basically, the President Elect is a drug addict? Damn it! >:(
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Of course smoking is a sign of weakness, in fact it's the ultimate sign. Everyone knows smoking is one of the dumbest things you can possibly do and the fact he knows this and still does it means he simply cannot quit. He's pathetically weak to be a slave to smoking.
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im glad i never started with it.
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Of course smoking is a sign of weakness, in fact it's the ultimate sign. Everyone knows smoking is one of the dumbest things you can possibly do and the fact he knows this and still does it means he simply cannot quit. He's pathtically weak to be a slave to smoking.
Truth.
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im glad i never started with it.
I´m glad only one in my family (not that close) smokes. And he haves some kind of cancer, what a surprise.
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Of course smoking is a sign of weakness, in fact it's the ultimate sign. Everyone knows smoking is one of the dumbest things you can possibly do and the fact he knows this and still does it means he simply cannot quit. He's pathtically weak to be a slave to smoking.
we have a winner
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My pet peeve is seeing a fat person smoking a ciggarette while holding a 32 oz energy drink in their other hand....at 7 am in the morning
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My pet peeve is seeing a fat person smoking a ciggarette while holding a 32 oz energy drink in their other hand....at 7 am in the morning
every womens fantasy ::)
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yes it is a sign of weakness but all human beings have a weakness
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weakness for the cock.
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Hear this being discussed in regards to Obama. I've always considered it one for anyone who started/continues in the last 25 years. Before that, people didn't know the consequences as clearly. Now I look at it like obesity. Clear sign of a lack of willpower.
thoughts?
I did not know he smoked till yesterday
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It really bothers me that he smokes. It's definitely a sign of weakness-but that's something we all have. That one really bothers me though.
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i once smoked 5 cigs in 10 min. i smoke fast.
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does obama endorse kools or newports?
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does obama endorse kools or newports?
Marlbro Menthols, his mom was white. ;)
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I smoke.. and I could stop at any time.
Yes, you are quite the bone smoker, "james001."
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Just a question. In an age where everybody knows what the shit does to you, why would he continue to smoke? He's obviously very bright (understatement), has a strong work ethic and appears to work-out on a fairly regular basis, so why not stop doing something that will, by all accounts, lead to health problems?
Why make such assumptions? People smoke for a myriad of reasons: to relieve stress, to feel pleasure and for reasons of personal style. Imagine Humphrey Bogart wearing gym shorts and holding a protein shake in his hand instead of wearing a three button suit and holding a cigarette. Not very blasé and sophisticated, don't you agree?
Most people who smoke do comprehend the health risks. However, recall that only lung cancer and emphysema can be blamed exclusively on cigarette smoke. All the other ailments that smoking supposedly causes, such as strokes as heart disease, can be affected by innumerable other factors besides cigarette smoke. The smokers who suffer strokes and myocardial infarctions are usually very heavy smokers of unfiltered cigarettes who also partake in a high fat diet and high stress lifestyle. If you smoke a few cigarettes a week and partake in a diet void of processed foods and saturated fats, your risk of suffering a stroke or infarction will be lower than that of the typical American non-smoker. The longest lived person ever was a French woman called Jean-Louis Calment, who died at the age of 122. She smoked for 60 years.
Smoking is a calculated risk. I smoke because nicotine relaxes me and gives me pleasure. However, I smoke about 3 packs of cigarette a month at the most, and sometimes less. Considering my diet devoid of processed foods and the fact that I exercise 5 times a week, I don't think the couple of cigarettes I smoke a day will mean an early death with cancer and other ailments. The cost-benefit of smoking, to me, in the small amount I do, is worth it.
Also, consider that smoking has some health benefits. Yes: health benefits. Nicotine in inhaled form is the most potent preventer of Parkinson's Disease known. Smoking is also one of the very few things known to decrease the mental degeneration caused by Alzheimer's Disease. Smoking heavily may accelerate mental deterioration with age because the carbon monoxide in smoke decreases oxygen availability to the brain, and nicotine constricts blood vessels decreasing blood supply to the brain, but smoking in small amounts offers potent protection for neurons.
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Why make such assumptions? People smoke for a myriad of reasons: to relieve stress, to feel pleasure and for reasons of personal style. Imagine Humphrey Bogart wearing gym shorts and holding a protein shake in his hand instead of wearing a three button suit and holding a cigarette. Not very blasé and sophisticated, don't you agree?
Most people who smoke do comprehend the health risks. However, recall that only lung cancer and emphysema can be blamed exclusively on cigarette smoke. All the other ailments that smoking supposedly causes, such as strokes as heart disease, can be affected by innumerable other factors besides cigarette smoke. The smokers who suffer strokes and myocardial infarctions are usually very heavy smokers of unfiltered cigarettes who also partake in a high fat diet and high stress lifestyle. If you smoke a few cigarettes a week and partake in a diet void of processed foods and saturated fats, your risk of suffering a stroke or infarction will be lower than that of the typical American non-smoker. The longest lived person ever was a French woman called Jean-Louis Calment, who died at the age of 122. She smoked for 60 years.
Smoking is a calculated risk. I smoke because nicotine relaxes me and gives me pleasure. However, I smoke about 3 packs of cigarette a month at the most, and sometimes less. Considering my diet devoid of processed foods and the fact that I exercise 5 times a week, I don't think the couple of cigarettes I smoke a day will mean an early death with cancer and other ailments. The cost-benefit of smoking, to me, in the small amount I do, is worth it.
Also, consider that smoking has some health benefits. Yes: health benefits. Nicotine in inhaled form is the most potent preventer of Parkinson's Disease known. Smoking is also one of the very few things known to decrease the mental degeneration caused by Alzheimer's Disease. Smoking heavily may accelerate mental deterioration with age because the carbon monoxide in smoke decreases oxygen availability to the brain, and nicotine constricts blood vessels decreasing blood supply to the brain, but smoking in small amounts offers potent protection for neurons.
Good for you Cigaretteman - this thread was made for your knowledge and input.
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Truth.
X2
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Smoking is the dumbest thing ever. There are tons of other drugs that at least have some decent effect to them. Smoking only has sides, the effect-side effect ratio is worse than crack.
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weakness for the cock.
hahah oh brother
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jamacians dont think so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c_XEVnrnKI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c_XEVnrnKI)
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jamacians dont think so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c_XEVnrnKI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c_XEVnrnKI)
Jamaica is a dump outside the resorts and DMX is a complete turd.
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Jamaica is a dump outside the resorts and DMX is a complete turd.
thanks.
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thanks.
You're welcome...now get outta Colorado !
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Lungcancer is a terrible disease.
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Not if the total perceived benefit you yield from smoking outweighs the total perceived cost of the risk of it.
Each person has individual freedom and the right to choose what they do with each increment of time that is theirs to utilize. The actions each individual takes in each moment in time is what that individual perceives to yield them the most benefit.
If you decide to acquire a new skill you can utilize in your career for the next 2 hours, you perceive that to yield you more benefit than any other action in these next 2 hours. If you decide to post on Getbig about whether or not smoking is a weakness for the next 2 hours, you perceive that to yield you more benefit than anything for the next 2 hours. If you decide to sit on your ass, sleep, etc. the same applies...
"Why would we do things like watch TV, sit on our ass, etc... when it is apparent they don't yield the most benefit?" you may ask? Because deep down we think they do. In these cases we think the best momentary thing for us would be to relax for a while, to enjoy a show for a while, to rest, etc... and repeated actions become habits; things you tend to do automatically, because our brains reinforce that which we repeatedly perceive to yield us the most benefit.
"Then we are harming ourselves--it is clear these things are NOT yielding the most benefit!" you may say. So what's the problem? Energy. What's the solution? Drink your own urine. That is what we are designed to do and if you do your energy will always be sky high. ;)
The person who smokes does take into consideration the risk of smoking. However, all things accounted for, he or she still perceives the benefit they receive from smoking to be greater than the cost of the risk of smoking. It is fine and it is a personal choice on what is most beneficial to you. If you think the moments of relaxation benefit your life more than a longer life may, so be it. If you think the risk is greater than the benefit of the relaxation, you wouldn't do it. Maybe living a shorter, but more relaxed life, to you, is more valuable than living a longer, but less relaxed life.
The catch is, some of us need to reach a point of desperation (ex., cancer) in order to truly realize the magnitude of the risk--the potential damage. :-\
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As Mark Twain says:
Quitting Smoking is easy, I've done it a hundred times ::) ::)
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if we were designed to drink our own urine... why did god place our dick to far from our mouths?
I believe god intended women to drink our urine... that's why my dick finds its way into a gals mouth so easily.
make sense?
Hell yeah it makes sense james, sounded completely reasonable when I heard about your trick. ;)
You're doing many a female model astronomical favors.
The answer to your first question, "why did god place our dick to far from our mouths?"
GRAVITY. This way the body can utilize gravity, which makes it more efficient. Instead of having to pull everything everywhere 100% with muscles, gravity helps your body out by doing some of the "pulling" as it processes things.
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well that just falls in line with gods plan.
he created female models weaker than men.. so obviously they need the boost.
Probably...In ancient cultures this was common knowledge; it was probably normal to do it and normal for females to drink the male's piss.
Millions of people drink their own piss today in India, China, and Germany.
It's something America is sleeping on. :-\
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Probably...In ancient cultures this was common knowledge; it was probably normal to do it and normal for females to drink the male's piss.
Millions of people drink their own piss today in India, China, and Germany.
It's something America is sleeping on. :-\
India, China and Germany, huh? I think I'll pass.
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not some of the girls I know ;)
How many different models did this with you?
Beauty queens use urine therapy either knowingly or unknowingly (it is in all their products), so I suspect these one's your dealing with are part of the bunch that use it knowingly. ;)
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just one actually.. but she did it a lot. and I'm not opposed to quenching the thirst of other women.
The only concern would be if you're depriving yourself of your own piss. Sure, you're doing them a huge favor, but what about yourself?
Every person should at least drink the middle 2 cups or so of their first (morning) piss of the day.
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F the piss talk! I was asking about smoking and weakness people, smoking and weakness...
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India, China and Germany, huh? I think I'll pass.
Don't worry, not all of them do it or know about it.
Only the brightest, best-looking, most psychologically advanced and brilliant ones. ;)
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F the piss talk! I was asking about smoking and weakness people, smoking and weakness...
OK, back on subject...
If you dip your cigarette in piss then let it dry then smoke it, that will be one of the most pleasurable experiences you could ever have. ;)
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OK, back on subject...
If you dip your cigarette in piss then let it dry then smoke it, that will be one of the most pleasurable experiences you could ever have. ;)
Well played sir, well played...
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I do find it interesting that even in today's world of knowledge of smoking that so many well educated people are still willing to take the risk. Can't fathom that they get that much out of it. "It'll never happen to me" is at the crux of everything.
Unfortunately, some people need to reach a point of desperation in order to realize the magnitude of the risk. Sometimes it takes something like cancer to make a person quit. :-\
Again, that's very unfortunate, but our brains are designed to learn more from experience than internalizing the advice someone else gives us. :-\
How do we utilize this knowledge? We seriously consider the validity of others' advice, and we think of things in terms of thier long-term and ultimate effect, as opposed its momentary effect. Think about not only yourself but others, and think about not only your momentary interests but your long-term interests. Realize that many people have had many experiences and have likely learned from them so they may have advice you can use. What they say may be valid, and may save you trouble...and yield you benefit. ;D
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Unfortunately, some people need to reach a point of desperation in order to realize the magnitude of the risk. Sometimes it takes something like cancer to make a person quit. :-\
Again, that's very unfortunate, but our brains are designed to learn more from experience than internalizing the advice someone else gives us. :-\
How do we utilize this knowledge? We seriously consider the validity of others' advice, and we think of things in terms of thier long-term and ultimate effect, as opposed its momentary effect. Think about not only yourself but others, and think about not only your momentary interests but your long-term interests. Realize that many people have had many experiences and have likely learned from them so they may have advice you can use. What they say may be valid, and may save you trouble...and yield you benefit. ;D
True enough. I guess what is disturbing about the elected leader of our nation continuing this is the "long term vs momentary effect." Not a very becoming quality for someone that well educated and pragmatic...
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True enough. I guess what is disturbing about the elected leader of our nation continuing this is the "long term vs momentary effect." Not a very becoming quality for someone that well educated and pragmatic...
I would agree with that. I am surprised, actually; I think it's apparent Barack is quite intelligent, I am well aware of the strength of addiction, but I would also suspect someone of such intelligence at some point would have by now done what it takes to kick the habit. It's not hopeless, it is difficult, but it can be done. As you've suggested, it does suggest in this case he's ignorant of the long term effect and is submitting to a momentary desire. Especially with his kids, etc... you'd think he'd want to ensure he can spend as much time living with them as he possibly can. :-\
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Hear this being discussed in regards to Obama. I've always considered it one for anyone who started/continues in the last 25 years. Before that, people didn't know the consequences as clearly. Now I look at it like obesity. Clear sign of a lack of willpower.
thoughts?
I smoke for pleasure here and there, but never understood the lure of being an habbitual smoker.
McCain used to smoke a pack a day for 25 years before he quit in the late 80's or so.
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he will be doing them an injustice by sticking around too long.
how is the guy going to top *pres*? all he can do now is show his kids how to backslide.
ideally for his children he will drop dead the day he leaves office.
:o Brutal, james. I think Barack has good intentions, he's just formed this net of beliefs we may not agree with.
BTW, I'm not a huge Barack fan. I do think he's got an exceptional capacity for learning and storing knowledge. Of course, as with anyone, that doesn't mean what he stores and thinks he know will be true or actual...
Anyways, RON PAUL. ;)
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I think the best thing he can do for his kids is to go out as the president. end things on a high note... not in scandal with prostitutes and blow. I think he's going to party after the white house.
would you want to remember your daddy as the president or the guy who got busted with a dead hooker?
Are you suggesting that his failure to quit smoking suggests he submits to momentary pleasure, which suggests he is vulnerable to the temptation of prostitutes and blow?
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remember I said this - 99.9999% of all politicians are lying, cheating, blow using... prostitute fucking scumbags.
smoker or not.
agree 100%.
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agree 100%.
You're monitored 24 hours a day. I'll admit they could be, but believe it or not there are people out there with good intentions that become politicians and don't do that shit. Your average person would like to think so, as a reason to hate and blame them for problems, but that's a far stretch.
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You're monitored 24 hours a day. I'll admit they could be, but believe it or not there are people out there with good intentions that become politicians and don't do that shit. Your average person would like to think so, as a reason to hate and blame them for problems, but that's a far stretch.
What is the saying "10 percent of politicians give the other 90 percent a bad name?"