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Title: dorian yates insecure fans at it again: morphing pics!
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 01:29:50 PM
you guys are so insecure that ronnie was so much better that you have to post this shit?

 ::)

you know you have one a debate when your opponent has to try and cheat to win LOL

 ::)

morphed to hell: note particularly the quad flare and all of a sudden tiny waist LOL

 ::)

ND was this your work again? ::)

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Post by: mass 04 on December 08, 2008, 01:30:43 PM
shut the fuck up
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Post by: The Showstoppa on December 08, 2008, 01:31:30 PM
W h o f u c k i n g c a r e s ?
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Post by: YoungBlood on December 08, 2008, 01:33:50 PM

How many times does Hulkster join conversations when Ronnie and/or Dorian is NOT part of the topic? ::)
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Post by: The Showstoppa on December 08, 2008, 01:35:19 PM
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Post by: Cyrus The Virus on December 08, 2008, 01:36:11 PM
Those guys are huge.
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Post by: Mars on December 08, 2008, 01:42:04 PM
then maybe dorian wasnt that great afterall?
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Post by: CalvinH on December 08, 2008, 01:43:34 PM
Who's this Ronnie and Dorian everybody is talking about ???
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Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 01:43:50 PM
you guys are so insecure that ronnie was so much better that you have to post this shit?

 ::)

you know you have one a debate when your opponent has to try and cheat to win LOL

 ::)

morphed to hell: note particularly the quad flare and all of a sudden tiny waist LOL

 ::)

ND was this your work again? ::)



translation: deep down I know Yates is better than Ronnie. This shot is the best ever.
Title: Re: dorian yates insecure fans at it again: morphing pics!
Post by: Cyrus The Virus on December 08, 2008, 01:44:20 PM
Who's this Ronnie and Dorian everybody is talking about ???

Famous bodybuilders.
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Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 01:44:56 PM
then maybe dorian wasnt that great afterall?

well, apparently his fans don't feel he was so great compared to ronnie.

after all, they are comparing the morphed shot to ronnie already.. ::)

how pathetic.
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Post by: body88 on December 08, 2008, 01:45:54 PM
I don't normally bash other posters, but you really need to get a life Hulkster.  Honestly, if you are serious about this shit, you must be an epic, sammich eating, pedo..
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Post by: CalvinH on December 08, 2008, 01:47:26 PM
I don't normally bash other posters, but you really need to get a life Hulkster.  Honestly, if you are serious about this shit, you must be an epic, sammich eating, pedo..




Tuck is better than Seymour!
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 08, 2008, 01:47:39 PM
Huckster, you're insecure, as you had to be an attention whore again and start a completely new thread, even though the same topic was already being discussed.  What, you keep losing debates, so your remedy is to start new threads continually?   ::)  You're pathetic.  Dorian owns your mind and you're cracking under the pressure.  It is not the Dorian fans that keep trying to devalue Coleman's worth, so as to further elevate Dorian, but the opposite.  You are insecure as to how Ronnie measures up, or rather, doesn't.  If Ronnie truly did measure up or exceed Dorian's legacy, you wouldn't have such a compulsion to denigrate a champion like Dorian.  You continue to show your insecurity and weakness.  Sad and pathetic. 
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Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 01:48:15 PM
whats funny is that for all the trash talk dorian gets about his aids man quads, they go and specifially morph his quads and waist so they no longer appear so bad: LOL ::)

compare: the nuthuggers say both these shots are taken in the same year LOL ::)

I just love how these guys know they can't win, so they try and use every cheap trick in the book to try and convince anyone that their hero was better than ronnie LOL ::)
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Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 01:49:30 PM
I don't normally bash other posters, but you really need to get a life Hulkster.  Honestly, if you are serious about this shit, you must be an epic, sammich eating, pedo..

LOL you really think anyone takes getbig seriously?

I know I don't

but I know how worked up the dorian nuthuggers get.

its so fun to rile them up. and so easy too.

after all, as this thread shows, they do it all by themselves! 8)

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Post by: The Showstoppa on December 08, 2008, 01:50:23 PM
LOL you really think anyone takes getbig seriously?

I know I don't

but I know how worked up the dorian nuthuggers get.

its so fun to rile them up. and so easy too.

after all, as this thread shows, they do it all by themselves! 8)



 ::)
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Post by: Remo Williams on December 08, 2008, 02:33:54 PM
Where's it morphed then..

Show us the original poo face.
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Post by: delta9mda on December 08, 2008, 02:34:02 PM
well, apparently his fans don't feel he was so great compared to ronnie.

after all, they are comparing the morphed shot to ronnie already.. ::)

how pathetic.
the pic was from Kevin to bodybuilding.com. i dont think Kevin morphed his own pic.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 08, 2008, 02:35:25 PM
the pic was from Kevin to bodybuilding.com. i dont think Kevin morphed his own pic.

he didn't he just schooled Hulkster in the other thread
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Post by: Big_Tymer on December 08, 2008, 02:36:17 PM
pic definitely looks morphed, his quads never had that kind of flare/sweep and all of a sudden they do in 1 never before seen pic?  Its photoshopped, no doubt about it.  Even if it wasnt, his arms are still pea shooters compared to his torso.
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Post by: pumpster on December 08, 2008, 02:38:55 PM
I don't normally bash other posters, but you really need to get a life Hulkster.  Honestly, if you are serious about this shit, you must be an epic, sammich eating, pedo..

No offense dude but you're equally intense about the patriots. ;)
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Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 02:43:20 PM
Quote
his quads never had that kind of flare/sweep and all of a sudden they do in 1 never before seen pic?

no shit!

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Post by: body88 on December 08, 2008, 03:47:26 PM
No offense dude but you're equally intense about the patriots. ;)

I guess you're right.  Good point.
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Post by: body88 on December 08, 2008, 03:48:19 PM
I don't normally bash other posters, but you really need to get a life Hulkster.  Honestly, if you are serious about this shit, you must be an epic, sammich eating, pedo..

They play different positions, but as a pass rush yes you are correct.  As a 3-4 de you are wrong ;)
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Post by: body88 on December 08, 2008, 03:49:05 PM
LOL you really think anyone takes getbig seriously?

I know I don't

but I know how worked up the dorian nuthuggers get.

its so fun to rile them up. and so easy too.

after all, as this thread shows, they do it all by themselves! 8)




I take back what I said.  I get fired up about the pats all the time.  That said, you guys have been going far longer than I ever have!
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 08, 2008, 09:37:55 PM
you guys are so insecure that ronnie was so much better that you have to post this shit?

Let's try this again, Huckster! Just because you look at pictures of Dorian and Ronnie and think that Ronnie is killing Dorian, it does not follow that would happen if they competed against each other at their respective bests. Bodybuilding contests are not judged according to your preference, Huckster! Secondly, the pic isn't doctored. Horton said it went straight from the negative to bodybuilding.com, so there was no tempering with it. Get over it, loser!

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: dorian yates insecure fans at it again: morphing pics!
Post by: Hulkster on December 08, 2008, 10:04:20 PM

Horton didn't shop the pic.

but its clear someone did.

dorian's quads/sweep and hips have never looked like that ever. not in any other pic in existance. not one.

he gained platz's quads sweep with shawn ray's waistline...then lost the quad sweep and gained the hipbone back for the olympia that year LOL ::)
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Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 08, 2008, 10:05:20 PM
same pic!!
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 08, 2008, 10:09:14 PM
same pic!!

thank you for that comparison. Dorian looks to be even smaller in the 95 pic than the 93 pic, where he weighed around 269 lbs. I wouldn't be surprised if he was 262 lbs.
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Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 08, 2008, 10:16:57 PM
no man i was trying 2 say that this pic of 95 is fake.. look at the diff. color of his feet and ankle than his legs.. also in 95 his left bi was torn but in this pic it doesn't look so..

thank you for that comparison. Dorian looks to be even smaller in the 95 pic than the 93 pic, where he weighed around 269 lbs. I wouldn't be surprised if he was 262 lbs.
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 08, 2008, 10:22:15 PM
no man i was trying 2 say that this pic of 95 is fake.. look at the diff. color of his feet and ankle than his legs.. also in 95 his left bi was torn but in this pic it doesn't look so..

to be fair, the lighter color of his feet also appear in the 93 black and whites. Maybe he didn't tan his feet?  Also, his forearm is pronated in the front double biceps which lengthens the bicep muscle. So you can't really tell he has a torn muscle in that pose.
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Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 08, 2008, 10:25:22 PM
ok so look at his trunk in both pics and let me knw wht do u think..

to be fair, the lighter color of his feet also appear in the 93 black and whites. Maybe he didn't tan his feet?  Also, his forearm is pronated in the front double biceps which lengthens the bicep muscle. So you can't really tell he has a torn muscle in that pose.
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 08, 2008, 10:37:36 PM
ok so look at his trunk in both pics and let me knw wht do u think..

I don't want to outwardly say the pic is photoshopped, but I will say this: it doesn't match up with any other pics I've seen of him. His waist looks narrower despite the increase in size of his midsection from 93 to 95, his left lat (right side from our perspective) joins his torso in a way I've never seen before, and his hips look non-existent like someone edited them out.
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Post by: XFACTOR on December 08, 2008, 10:39:37 PM
Yes
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 08, 2008, 10:43:23 PM
by the way, I'm not saying it was done intentionally but if someone tried to cut Dorian out from the background in the original pic, it's not far-fetched to believe he 'shaved off' parts of Dorian's body such as his hips.
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Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 10:54:04 PM
same pic!!

It's not the same picture you idiot. Look at the haircut. I love how you nuthuggers are crying in countless thread as this picture is the nail in the coffin for you turds. My friends, the 95 picture represents 2 years of progress from 1993. Everything is legit. Dorian is the greatest ever.

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Post by: webcake on December 08, 2008, 10:57:38 PM
Ronnie was better...no doubt about it.

8 vs 6

Ronnie wins.

No doubt about it.
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Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 11:01:38 PM
Oh, and I should add, what you are seeing in the 95 photo is a technically proper photo (i.e. Kevin set up the lighting to properly accentuate Dorian's physique). The 93 photo is technically a horrible photo with poor lighting.
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Post by: The Coach on December 08, 2008, 11:18:35 PM
Morph all you want he still looks like a block of shit and Ronnie ain't much better. Hahaha...5'10 290, yep some real great symmetry going on there.....LOL!
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Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 08, 2008, 11:21:51 PM
u r really the biggest donkey here.. u piece of shit any idiot can put dorian's face from any other pic to z one he photoshops 2 make it look like another pic.. he hs also played wth the light.. go 2 hell wth ur stupidity..

It's not the same picture you idiot. Look at the haircut. I love how you nuthuggers are crying in countless thread as this picture is the nail in the coffin for you turds. My friends, the 95 picture represents 2 years of progress from 1993. Everything is legit. Dorian is the greatest ever.


:-\
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Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 11:25:38 PM
u r really the biggest donkey here.. u piece of shit any idiot can put dorian's face from any other pic to z one he photoshops 2 make it look like another pic.. he hs also played wth the light.. go 2 hell wth ur stupidity..
 :-\

meltdown of another guy gimmick account hahaha
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Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 08, 2008, 11:27:43 PM
ok stupid if u thnk so..

meltdown of another guy gimmick account hahaha
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Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 11:31:19 PM
You bring up stupid points. Have you ever worn tall socks in your life? When you remove them your skin is often blanched because the tight socks limit blood flow to the skin.

It's painfully obvious that you all know deep down that Dorian was amazing, and you just don't want to admit it ;)
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Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 08, 2008, 11:35:37 PM
sure dorian ws amazing but wht is the relation bet. ths and my "stupid" points??.. i am just saying tht this shot which is ckaimed 2 b frm 95 looks fake 2 me..

You bring up stupid points. Have you ever worn tall socks in your life? When you remove them your skin is often blanched because the tight socks limit blood flow to the skin.

It's painfully obvious that you all know deep down that Dorian was amazing, and you just don't want to admit it ;)
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Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 11:38:37 PM
sure dorian ws amazing but wht is the relation bet. ths and my "stupid" points??.. i am just saying tht this shot which is ckaimed 2 b frm 95 looks fake 2 me..


Dorian was that good. This is a technically good photo presenting Yates physique at it's best. This is exactly why Kevin Horton said the 93 B&Ws were technically poor photos with poor lighting. Put Dorian under professional lighting with a good photo and you get this.

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Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 08, 2008, 11:45:38 PM
can u explain wht is this black line over his trunk in the 95 pic??.. is it the same reason u mentioned for his ankel LOL..

Dorian was that good. This is a technically good photo presenting Yates physique at it's best. This is exactly why Kevin Horton said the 93 B&Ws were technically poor photos with poor lighting. Put Dorian under professional lighting with a good photo and you get this.


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Post by: England_1 on December 08, 2008, 11:50:18 PM
Either you're an idiot or you've never worn long socks before. Tight socks such as dress socks always leave a ring around your lower leg. It's obvious Dorian just got done with a workout and took his socks off.
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Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 08, 2008, 11:58:21 PM
u r either an idiot or a donkey coz i was asking abt the line over his trunk and not over his ankle..

Either you're an idiot or you've never worn long socks before. Tight socks such as dress socks always leave a ring around your lower leg. It's obvious Dorian just got done with a workout and took his socks off.

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Post by: England_1 on December 09, 2008, 12:06:52 AM
u r either an idiot or a donkey coz i was asking abt the line over his trunk and not over his ankle..


You've got it circled on your photoshop, gimmick  ;)

It's burning you up deep down that Dorian was this good hahaha.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251487.0;attach=292193;image)
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 09, 2008, 08:49:30 AM
The Yates pick continues to cause the Coleman faithful to meltdown. lol  ;D
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Post by: D_1000 on December 09, 2008, 09:14:37 AM
The Yates pick continues to cause the Coleman faithful to meltdown. lol  ;D

Some things will never change.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 11:52:53 AM
The Yates pick continues to cause the Coleman faithful to meltdown. lol  ;D

I told you they would lol
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 12:46:14 PM
someone has some explaining to do. ;)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates101.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates101abccc.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates101edited3.jpg)
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Post by: L00n on December 09, 2008, 12:48:54 PM
shut the fuck up

agree!
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Post by: sculpture on December 09, 2008, 12:49:14 PM
Finally it becomes clear just how bullshit that photo is
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Post by: MAXX on December 09, 2008, 12:53:44 PM
someone has some explaining to do. ;)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates101.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates101abccc.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates101edited3.jpg)
it's the same.. just one is brighter. no morph.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 12:55:52 PM
someone has some explaining to do. ;)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates101.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates101abccc.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates101edited3.jpg)

I don't see it Neo  ??? what are you insinuating ?
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
it's the same.. just one is brighter. no morph.

if you look at the junction where his legs meet his hips in the version with the black background, his legs suddenly stop and go straight up. However, in the unaltered version, you can see his hips protrude on both sides.
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Post by: MAXX on December 09, 2008, 12:59:50 PM
if you look at the junction where his legs meet his hips in the version with the black background, his legs suddenly stop and go straight up. However, in the unaltered version, you can see his hips protrude on both sides.
it's the same. they just made the other one with black background.

he looks just as impressive on both photos either way..
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:00:16 PM
if you look at the junction where his legs meet his hips in the version with the black background, his legs suddenly stop and go straight up. However, in the unaltered version, you can see his hips protrude on both sides.

Think maybe the black back round washes that out?
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:00:57 PM
if you look at the junction where his legs meet his hips in the version with the black background, his legs suddenly stop and go straight up. However, in the unaltered version, you can see his hips protrude on both sides.

Dude you're really , really reaching with this one.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:03:11 PM
Finally it becomes clear just how bullshit that photo is

still crying huh?
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Post by: Mars on December 09, 2008, 01:05:11 PM
why you guys dont talk about girls? and posting pics of them?
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Post by: sculpture on December 09, 2008, 01:05:52 PM
Dude you're really , really reaching with this one.

Just like you did with your "technology" argument
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:06:04 PM
why you guys dont talk about girls? and posting pics of them?
;)
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Post by: sculpture on December 09, 2008, 01:06:59 PM
still crying huh?

still swallowing huh?
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:07:39 PM
Just like you did with your "technology" argument

what technology argument? oh you mean the photoshopped pics Hulkster's been posting as overwhelming visual proof for months? the ones Kevin Horton said were enhanced and the person who created them admitted he manipulated them? why didn't you say so?
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:08:55 PM
still swallowing huh?

You fantasizing about that? I cast NO aspersions on your lifestyle choice more power to you.  ;)
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 01:10:55 PM
Dude you're really , really reaching with this one.

not really. It's blatantly obvious his hips protrude more in the unaltered version. I understand that you want to silence any doubt concerning the validity of the "unseen" bodybuilding pic, but the comparison speaks for itself.
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 01:12:15 PM
still swallowing huh?

oh, ND swallows alright. ;D

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/NDisaFag1.jpg)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:14:25 PM
oh, ND swallows alright. ;D


You got crushed by me and you're reduced to some homosexual reference? lame very lame .  :-\




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Post by: Mars on December 09, 2008, 01:15:01 PM
who gives a shit about these pros anyway.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:16:40 PM
not really. It's blatantly obvious his hips protrude more in the unaltered version. I understand that you want to silence any doubt concerning the validity of the "unseen" bodybuilding pic, but the comparison speaks for itself.

So you're claiming it's been altered now? again did you take into account the black back round washing it out? and did he gain anything what so ever even if it were true? LMFAO  of course not you're desperate and need any angle to distract yourself that Dorian in that pic kills anything Coleman every presented , hey what ever works for you .
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 01:19:43 PM
You got crushed by me and you're reduced to some homosexual reference? lame very lame.

don't project your gay fantasies onto me. All I said was you swallow. You're the one who turned it into a homosexual reference. ;)
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Post by: delta9mda on December 09, 2008, 01:21:04 PM
shut the fuck up
post the original like this and show me the shopping!
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:21:41 PM
don't project your gay fantasies onto me. All I said was you swallow. You're the one who turned it into a homosexual reference. ;)

Yeah o.k  ::) who has who in their sig?  ;) Neo keep proving me right with each post we both know I own you like Dorian owns Ronnie
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Post by: Mars on December 09, 2008, 01:22:30 PM
(http://images2-telegraaf.nl/multimedia/archive/00511/moiku_511972i.jpg)
Title: Re: dorian yates insecure fans at it again: morphing pics!
Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 01:22:50 PM
So you're claiming it's been altered now? again did you take into account the black back round washing it out? and did he gain anything what so ever even if it were true? LMFAO  of course not you're desperate and need any angle to distract yourself that Dorian in that pic kills anything Coleman every presented , hey what ever works for you.

yes, I took into account the background has been washed out. Perhaps you would have spared yourself from looking like an illiterate retard if you bothered to read this thread.

by the way, I'm not saying it was done intentionally but if someone tried to cut Dorian out from the background in the original pic, it's not far-fetched to believe he 'shaved off' parts of Dorian's body such as his hips.
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 01:25:57 PM
Yeah o.k  who has who in their sig?  Neo keep proving me right with each post we both know I own you like Dorian owns Ronnie

again, all I said is you swallow. You're the idiot who keeps projecting his gay fantasies onto others. Don't get all butthurt just b/c all of Getbig now knows you are a homosexual. ;)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:26:29 PM
yes, I took into account the background has been washed out. Perhaps you would have spared yourself from looking like an illiterate retard if you bothered to read this thread.


That was before and unlike YOU I don't hang on your every word like YOU do me  ;) I'm not in your sig kid  ;) I don't emulate you , your style , your cadence

283 pounds destroys ANYTHING soft Ronnie has ever shown , your excuses ran out with this pic kid
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Post by: d0nny2600 on December 09, 2008, 01:27:46 PM
That was before and unlike YOU I don't hang on your every word like YOU do me  ;) I'm not in your sig kid  ;) I don't emulate you , your style , your cadence

283 pounds destroys ANYTHING soft Ronnie has ever shown , your excuses ran out with this pic kid
Jesus that's unreal
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Post by: Griffith on December 09, 2008, 01:28:31 PM
A black background will always make the edges of a lighter object in front of it look sharper because of the contrast.
The pic is not in any way morphed.

Do some of the Ronnie Coleman fanboys even realise they are severely owning themselves by claiming the Yates pic is 'morphed'?    ???
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:31:29 PM
again, all I said is you swallow. You're the idiot who keeps projecting his gay fantasies onto others. Don't get all butthurt just b/c all of Getbig now knows you are a homosexual. ;)

See semantics another one of your weak tactics  ;) projection hmmm I heard that before looks like someone is still copying me  ;) you're the one who got all excited and saved my post and now have it in your sig what does that say about you? lol and now you're reduced to speculating about my sexuality and ad homien attacks another sign of frustration , in the end what are you left with? me owning you .
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:32:21 PM
A black background will always make the edges of a lighter object in front of it look sharper because of the contrast.
The pic is not in any way morphed.

Do some of the Ronnie Coleman fanboys even realise they are severely owning themselves by claiming the Yates pic is 'morphed'?    ???

They know but they have to try and save face , what else can they do? one picture destroyed their hopes & dreams
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 01:32:53 PM
That was before and unlike YOU I don't hang on your every word like YOU do me I'm not in your sig kid I don't emulate you , your style , your cadence

following your rationale, Hulkster controls your mind since you have him in your sig and respond to almost every post of his. Countdown to the excuse "but it's different." ::)

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283 pounds destroys ANYTHING soft Ronnie has ever shown , your excuses ran out with this pic kid

nah, Ronnie in the 02 BFTO still beats 95 Dorian. ;)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:35:50 PM
following your rationale, Hulkster controls your mind since you have him in your sig and respond to almost every post of his. Countdown to the excuse "but it's different." ::)

nah, Ronnie in the 02 BFTO still beats 95 Dorian. ;)

No that's a quote from Kevin Horton , nice try though  ;) and I respond to a LOT of his posts because everywhere I go he follows me  , just like you  ;)

BFTO 02 sucks and you know it , can't touch Yates in ANY part of the criteria none what so ever

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Post by: johnny1 on December 09, 2008, 01:38:28 PM
post the original like this and show me the shopping!
That back-ground that Dorian's hitting that FLS in, now rings a Bell, doe's anyone else recall seeing Dorian Hitting a FDB with the same Back-ground? i recall thinking Dorian looked Awesome with the Exception of his Bicep of course, However the overall Presentation in his FDB from the same Photo-shoot (not 100% sure) was Extremley impressive from head to toe.
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 01:38:37 PM
See semantics another one of your weak tactics

it's not my fault I have greater mastery over the English language than you. ;)

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projection hmmm I heard that before looks like someone is still copying me

contrary to what you think, the term "projection" has been in use long before you started using it.

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you're the one who got all excited and saved my post and now have it in your sig what does that say about you? lol and now you're reduced to speculating about my sexuality and ad homien attacks another sign of frustration , in the end what are you left with? me owning you.

how could I not save it? You owned yourself with that one. I'll stop posting it when you stop posting screen captures of Hulkster's posts. And I don't have to speculate about your sexuality anymore than people speculated about Clay Aiken's sexuality before he came out of the closet. ;)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 01:45:31 PM
it's not my fault I have greater mastery over the English language than you. ;)

contrary to what you think, the term "projection" has been in use long before you started using it.

how could I not save it? You owned yourself with that one. I'll stop posting it when you stop posting screen captures of Hulkster's posts. And I don't have to speculate about your sexuality anymore than people speculated about Clay Aiken's sexuality before he came out of the closet. ;)

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it's not my fault I have greater mastery over the English language than you. ;)

playing with words doesn't mean you've mastered them  ;)

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contrary to what you think, the term "projection" has been in use long before you started using it.

true , but I was using eons to describe you and others behaviors  ;) now once again you're reduced to playing follow my leader

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how could I not save it? You owned yourself with that one. I'll stop posting it when you stop posting screen captures of Hulkster's posts. And I don't have to speculate about your sexuality anymore than people speculated about Clay Aiken's sexuality before he came out of the closet. ;)

No I didn't I own you in fact , the reference you didn't get o.k you don't like great films I posted the clip showing what I meant , YOU interpreted it a whole other way  ;) and now you're reduced to using it in your sig and posting in some petty attempt to embarrass me and it backfired big time

I never asked you to stop posting it knock yourself out , I don't care if people think I'm gay if I were I would be honest about it there is no shame in being gay you're posting it like it's a bad thing and again you're reduced to speculated or other about my sexuality at the end of the day we're both posting pictures of men in their underwear that we have saved so when you type these types of things what are you really saying?  ;)

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Post by: pumpster on December 09, 2008, 01:57:10 PM


283 pounds destroys ANYTHING soft Ronnie has ever shown , your excuses ran out with this pic kid

The inference by our resident genius here is that nothing until this shot destroys Coleman LOL

You idiot the keg with virtually no upper body detail as usual. ;) ;) ;)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 02:00:16 PM
The inference by our resident genius here is that nothing until this shot destroys Coleman LOL you idiot even this shot doesn't trump Coleman. ;) ;) ;)

Sure it does Dorian at any bodyweight is better than Ronnie when all things are considered however in the much vaunted 2003 doesn't have a single advantage now
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Post by: Sharma on December 09, 2008, 02:13:39 PM
I cant take Nasty Diet seriously now after he himself admit that Dorian looked disgusting and repugnant and Nasser looked way better but Dorian won because of "criteria". The same criteria no doubt that saw him go from 3rd and 4th overall to ,suddenly, fist with perfect score.

If he ain't white, for ND he ain't right.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 02:16:17 PM
I cant take Nasty Diet seriously now after he himself admit that Dorian looked disgusting and repugnant and Nasser looked way better but Dorian won because of "criteria". The same criteria no doubt that saw him go from 3rd and 4th overall to ,suddenly, fist with perfect score.

If he ain't white, for ND he ain't right.

hey pumpster  ;)
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Post by: Hulkster on December 09, 2008, 02:20:36 PM
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If he ain't white, for ND he ain't right.

lol so true
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 09, 2008, 04:47:27 PM
I cant take Nasty Diet seriously now after he himself admit that Dorian looked disgusting and repugnant and Nasser looked way better but Dorian won because of "criteria". The same criteria no doubt that saw him go from 3rd and 4th overall to ,suddenly, fist with perfect score.

If he ain't white, for ND he ain't right.


First off, your last comment shows your complete and utter ignorance.  Secondly, Nasser knew what he needed to do to win, but he failed to do what was necessary.  That is a fact and no one is to blame for it, but Nasser.  Instead of committing himself to improving his weak points, he chose to opt for synthol, which is a chicken shit move. If Nasser was the heir apparent, then why did he not win after Dorian retired?  Perhaps because Coleman, just as Yates did, smoked him in the back department.  Nasser wasn't going to win the Olympia, period.  A shitty back won't get you the title, so suck it up princess.
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Post by: England_1 on December 09, 2008, 05:29:13 PM
Sharma = Dave

Secondly, the nutthuggers are melting down left and right because they know that Yates at 283lb destroys little 257lb coleman! Dorian is 30lbs heavier with better condition! In 2003, Coleman was soft like a baked potato with loose skin everywhere!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251487.0;attach=292305;image)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 05:35:55 PM
Sharma = Dave

Secondly, the nutthuggers are melting down left and right because they know that Yates at 283lb destroys little 257lb coleman! Dorian is 30lbs heavier with better condition! In 2003, Coleman was soft like a baked potato with loose skin everywhere!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251487.0;attach=292305;image)

Another great post ! dead on the money

this pic is the final nail in the coffin for the Ronnie boot lickers , Hulkster wishes now he would have taken the truce lol
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 09, 2008, 05:52:58 PM
again, all I said is you swallow. You're the idiot who keeps projecting his gay fantasies onto others. Don't get all butthurt just b/c all of Getbig now knows you are a homosexual. ;)

  Yeah, that's probably the reason why you made the point of telling him how gay it sounded the first time ND wrote that line, huh? You can't even keep track of your own bullshit.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: SuperNatural on December 09, 2008, 05:53:22 PM
That pic is probably not photoshopped, nor does any photo of ronnie's front lat spread beat that front lat spread.

Although, that being said, Ronnie is still better, IMO.  No front or maybe even back double bicep of Dorians beats Ronnies.  No most muscular either.  Just my opinion.  

Plus, both these guys are retired and we have had two Mr. O's since.  Get over it.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 05:53:37 PM
  Yeah, that's probably the reason why you made the point of telling him how gay it sounded the first time ND wrote that line, huh? You can't even keep track of your own bullshit.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

lmao this kid is to simple
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Post by: NaturalWonder83 on December 09, 2008, 06:05:34 PM
damn dorian looks like crap in these pix
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Post by: England_1 on December 09, 2008, 06:12:45 PM
damn dorian looks like crap in these pix

How many Mr. O titles does Nasser have? Oh yeah, none. LOL.

Dorian is the best ever.

(http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/2923/15lw1.jpg)

(http://www.builtreport.com/yates/098.jpg)
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 06:45:21 PM
playing with words doesn't mean you've mastered them

it's only playing with words to those who are too dumb to comprehend. ;)

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true , but I was using eons to describe you and others behaviors now once again you're reduced to playing follow my leader

ha ha, what bullshit. I had no need to use "projecting" until you started to overuse the term whenever someone exposed you. It was such a lame comeback that I mimicked you to show how dumb you sound.

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No I didn't I own you in fact , the reference you didn't get o.k you don't like great films I posted the clip showing what I meant , YOU interpreted it a whole other way and now you're reduced to using it in your sig and posting in some petty attempt to embarrass me and it backfired big time

you said you want to drink my milkshake and somehow it backfired on me? Yeah, okaaay... ::)
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 06:47:59 PM
If he ain't white, for ND he ain't right.

this comment made me lol ;D
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 06:49:10 PM
Yeah, that's probably the reason why you made the point of telling him how gay it sounded the first time ND wrote that line, huh? You can't even keep track of your own bullshit.

you stalking me, puppy dog? ;)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2008, 06:56:42 PM
it's only playing with words to those who are too dumb to comprehend. ;)

ha ha, what bullshit. I had no need to use "projecting" until you started to overuse the term whenever someone exposed you. It was such a lame comeback that I mimicked you to show how dumb you sound.

you said you want to drink my milkshake and somehow it backfired on me? Yeah, okaaay... ::)

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it's only playing with words to those who are too dumb to comprehend. ;)

no it's semantics , when you can't prove them wrong TRY and bog them down with semantics , indicative of your stupidity

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ha ha, what bullshit. I had no need to use "projecting" until you started to overuse the term whenever someone exposed you. It was such a lame comeback that I mimicked you to show how dumb you sound.

oh no exposed me  ::) and lame is using the same excuse when you're exposed for being a hypocrite , I was mimicking you  ::) see default excuse

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you said you want to drink my milkshake and somehow it backfired on me? Yeah, okaaay... ::)

No I didn't , I said I drink your milkshake I never said I want to that's blatant lie and yes it backfired when you attempted to turn into something that's on your mind

the reference was to the movie " There will be blood " where he gets owned in Grand fashion just like you did  ;) and you looking for a way out attempted to turn it into something ' gay ' obviously you dream of men fantasizing about drinking your ' milkshake '



Neo you're not in my league kid and never will be
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 07:12:03 PM
no it's semantics , when you can't prove them wrong TRY and bog them down with semantics , indicative of your stupidity

wrong, it's only semantics to those who have trouble with reading comprehension. Many posters have called you out on it. Funny how you're the only one accusing others of playing with words. ;)

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oh no exposed me and lame is using the same excuse when you're exposed for being a hypocrite , I was mimicking you see default excuse

you're so f*cking retarded. How can you mimic me after you claim I'm copying you? Explain that one, dumbass.

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No I didn't , I said I drink your milkshake I never said I want to that's blatant lie and yes it backfired when you attempted to turn into something that's on your mind

the reference was to the movie " There will be blood " where he gets owned in Grand fashion just like you did and you looking for a way out attempted to turn it into something ' gay ' obviously you dream of men fantasizing about drinking your ' milkshake '

bwahaha, I don't care what you saw in a movie. Go up to any grown man in a bar or club and tell him you want to drink his milkshake. See how he reacts. Then come talk to me about homosexual fantasies. ;)

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Neo you're not in my league kid and never will be

you're right about one thing. I'm not in your league - I'm waaay above your league. You will never compare to me in logic and rhetoric. However, I will give you props for something. You're good at scanning pics of oiled up men in thongs and passionately defending your crush on a bodybuilding site.
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 09, 2008, 08:16:52 PM



Neo you're not in my league kid and never will be

So true!
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 09, 2008, 09:07:23 PM
you stalking me, puppy dog? ;)

  You truly are ND's bitch. Lol. You parrot all his lines. This is the third time you come back with the "puppy dog" retort. Funny that you are notorius for addressing posts of mine where I am not talking to you, and yet you now want to pretend it's te ther way around. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 09:31:09 PM
You truly are ND's bitch. Lol. You parrot all his lines. This is the third time you come back with the "puppy dog" retort. Funny that you are notorius for addressing posts of mine where I am not talking to you, and yet you now want to pretend it's te ther way around.

yawn, you thirsty for some milkshake? I will give you some if you promise to be a good boy and drink it all up. ;)
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 09, 2008, 10:28:17 PM
yawn, you thirsty for some milkshake? I will give you some if you promise to be a good boy and drink it all up. ;)

  Lmao...you have been drinking my mikshake since mid 2006 when you joined the Truce Thread. ;D ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 09, 2008, 10:48:32 PM
Lmao...you have been drinking my mikshake since mid 2006 when you joined the Truce Thread.

so you concede that "milkshake" is a gay reference? Gotcha. ND, you reading this? LMAO ;)

and you have yet to best me in anything. I owned you repeatedly in that thread. That's why you now follow me from thread to thread hoping to get the better of me. Keep trying, lost puppy dog. Keep trying.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_w4bVxjkdQvY/RpQURpUw30I/AAAAAAAAAR0/l_xNgD4xDes/Stray+puppy.jpg)
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 09, 2008, 11:33:42 PM
so you concede that "milkshake" is a gay reference? Gotcha. ND, you reading this? LMAO

  You make it out to be, so I am repying in kind. I'm sure that you got a gay connotation out of it, like you get out of anything. No wonder you are known as SemenHole. ;)

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and you have yet to best me in anything. I owned you repeatedly in that thread. That's why you now follow me from thread to thread hoping to get the better of me. Keep trying, lost puppy dog. Keep trying.

  There you go plagiarizing ND's lines again. And I don't follow you around, idiot. It is you, in fact, who used to reply to my posts directed to Hulkster all the time. I respond to your posts because you tell lies about Dorian, so of course I'm going to reply. The reason why you don't reply to my posts, quite simply, is because you are afraid of me. ;) I definitely defeated you in the Truce Thread.  No question. Several people quoted my replies to you and wrote "owned", even people that don't like me much, so I was the winner there udoubtedly. You are, after all, the guy who said that Ronnie carried more lean mass at the 2001 ASC than at the 99' Olympia despite being 10 lbs lighter, and that Dorian's weight advantage over 2001 ASC Ronnie was all gut and bones, despite the fact that Ronnie also had a guy at the 2001 ASC and that the weight difference between the skeletal frame of a large man and a small woman is 6 lbs at best. I have nothing to fear from you, SemenHole. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 01:36:58 AM
wrong, it's only semantics to those who have trouble with reading comprehension. Many posters have called you out on it. Funny how you're the only one accusing others of playing with words. ;)

you're so f*cking retarded. How can you mimic me after you claim I'm copying you? Explain that one, dumbass.

bwahaha, I don't care what you saw in a movie. Go up to any grown man in a bar or club and tell him you want to drink his milkshake. See how he reacts. Then come talk to me about homosexual fantasies. ;)

you're right about one thing. I'm not in your league - I'm waaay above your league. You will never compare to me in logic and rhetoric. However, I will give you props for something. You're good at scanning pics of oiled up men in thongs and passionately defending your crush on a bodybuilding site.

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wrong, it's only semantics to those who have trouble with reading comprehension. Many posters have called you out on it. Funny how you're the only one accusing others of playing with words. ;)

OH the old argument ad populum , it's true because many say it's true.  ::)  you support your original stupid claim with more faulty logic  ;) right up your ally . the point still stands you when exposed try and bog down the ' debate ' with semantics I've seen you do it time and time again not only with me either

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you're so f*cking retarded. How can you mimic me after you claim I'm copying you? Explain that one, dumbass.

oooohh someone is getting frustrated lol whenever I call you on directly copying me you always revert to the same lame excuse  " I was mimicking you " " I was parodying you "  ::) my ass you made a GetBig career out of trying to be exactly like me from the "  ;) " to my taglines to my cadence that's no parody that you trying to be just like me , the old adage applies if you can't beat em join em

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bwahaha, I don't care what you saw in a movie. Go up to any grown man in a bar or club and tell him you want to drink his milkshake. See how he reacts. Then come talk to me about homosexual fantasies. ;)

Of course you don't care about the movie for a very specific reason , I never said " I want to drink your milkshake " you've been corrected on this already yet insist on typing it , I said " I drink your miklshake " big difference . And YOU tried to turn into something it wasn't , I understand you didn't get the reference from the movie so I posted the clip , it has to do with a much more intelligent man ( Daniel = me  ) owning a much dumber one ( Eli = you ) in a major way. After seeing this you realized you didn't strike gold like you thought and now you are fucked because you looked foolish projecting YOUR gay fantasies into the statement and now you have it in your sig lol it was you Neo who interpreted it in a homosexual way even though the clip has absolutely nothing to do with what is on YOUR MIND , YOU turned into a gay reference so again what does that say about your first reaction?  ;) and your sig isn't even accurate further proof you're thinking me of me in a sexual way , " ND Swallows My Milkshake " LMFAO I said I drink your milkshake YOU turned it into I swallows LMMFAO you exposed yourself by claiming I'm gay by projecting your underlying fantasies . as usual backfire

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you're right about one thing. I'm not in your league - I'm waaay above your league. You will never compare to me in logic and rhetoric. However, I will give you props for something. You're good at scanning pics of oiled up men in thongs and passionately defending your crush on a bodybuilding site.

No as usual you'd have to be able to prove me wrong to be in my league , never mind above it . I've made my statements YOU denied them all , I backed them all up AFTER the fact using professionals and IFBB judges YOU haven't that's the bottom line . You didn't know the first thing about competitive bodybuilding until I taught you , YOU didn't know balance & proportion were two separate entties YOU didn't know all rounds are physique rounds , YOU didn't know Dorian was the better conditioned athlete , you thought you had an idea until you were corrected my times by me and others and you're so stupid even when corrected you deny , deny , deny , play with words , use faulty logic so only in this area are you ' waay above my league ' lol

I love how when you get defensive you try and attack and infer I'm gay , as if it's a bad thing even if I were , your homophobic rants are indicative of people struggling with their own latent feelings , you turn me into debating about Dorian into " my man crush " lmfao keep exposing yourself Neo . Even if I were gay I'd still be right about the debate so you're right back to square one , no where.  ;)

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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 07:34:52 AM
  You truly are ND's bitch. Lol. You parrot all his lines. This is the third time you come back with the "puppy dog" retort. Funny that you are notorius for addressing posts of mine where I am not talking to you, and yet you now want to pretend it's te ther way around. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Great post ! he wont recover.
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 10, 2008, 08:40:48 AM
yawn, you thirsty for some milkshake? I will give you some if you promise to be a good boy and drink it all up. ;)

You've tried to attach some sort of homosexual connotation the "milkshake" reference made by ND, when none exists.  Yet, it is you that keeps posting homosexual propositions, apparently getting some sort of titillation from doing so.  As usual, you have nothing of substance to contribute.
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Post by: delta9mda on December 10, 2008, 09:56:20 AM
That back-ground that Dorian's hitting that FLS in, now rings a Bell, doe's anyone else recall seeing Dorian Hitting a FDB with the same Back-ground? i recall thinking Dorian looked Awesome with the Exception of his Bicep of course, However the overall Presentation in his FDB from the same Photo-shoot (not 100% sure) was Extremley impressive from head to toe.
there are similar pics in the flex mag with the article about yates tearing his bicep. there is a fdb pic that is a few weeks out (?) and it looks similar to this new shot.
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Post by: delta9mda on December 10, 2008, 09:58:20 AM
The inference by our resident genius here is that nothing until this shot destroys Coleman LOL

You idiot the keg with virtually no upper body detail as usual. ;) ;) ;)
you are still comparing day of contest shot with a 3+ weeks out from a show pic. guess which one is which.
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 10, 2008, 10:56:38 AM
You make it out to be, so I am repying in kind. I'm sure that you got a gay connotation out of it, like you get out of anything. No wonder you are known as Sir Neoseminole.

There you go plagiarizing ND's lines again. And I don't follow you around, idiot. It is you, in fact, who used to reply to my posts directed to Hulkster all the time. I respond to your posts because you tell lies about Dorian, so of course I'm going to reply. The reason why you don't reply to my posts, quite simply, is because you are afraid of me. I definitely defeated you in the Truce Thread.  No question. Several people quoted my replies to you and wrote "owned", even people that don't like me much, so I was the winner there udoubtedly. You are, after all, the guy who said that Ronnie carried more lean mass at the 2001 ASC than at the 99' Olympia despite being 10 lbs lighter, and that Dorian's weight advantage over 2001 ASC Ronnie was all gut and bones, despite the fact that Ronnie also had a guy at the 2001 ASC and that the weight difference between the skeletal frame of a large man and a small woman is 6 lbs at best. I have nothing to fear from you, Sir NeoSeminole

meltdown
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 10, 2008, 11:08:25 AM
You are, after all, the guy who said that the weight difference between the skeletal frame of a large man and a small woman is 6 lbs at best.

ha ha ha, I seriously don't have a f*cking clue what you are talking about. ???
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 10, 2008, 11:27:47 AM
OH the old argument ad populum , it's true because many say it's true.  you support your original stupid claim with more faulty logic  right up your ally . the point still stands you when exposed try and bog down the ' debate ' with semantics I've seen you do it time and time again not only with me either

incorrect use of argument ad populum. Your poor reading comprehension isn't even up for discussion. It's been proven over and over by myself and several other posters. ;)

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oooohh someone is getting frustrated lol whenever I call you on directly copying me you always revert to the same lame excuse  " I was mimicking you " " I was parodying you " my ass you made a GetBig career out of trying to be exactly like me from the "  " to my taglines to my cadence that's no parody that you trying to be just like me , the old adage applies if you can't beat em join em

ooohh, looks like you are getting frustrated after I called you out on your bullshit. I'm still waiting for you to explain how you can mimic me after you claim I'm copying you?

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Of course you don't care about the movie for a very specific reason , I never said " I want to drink your milkshake " you've been corrected on this already yet insist on typing it , I said " I drink your miklshake " big difference . And YOU tried to turn into something it wasn't , I understand you didn't get the reference from the movie so I posted the clip , it has to do with a much more intelligent man ( Daniel = me  ) owning a much dumber one ( Eli = you ) in a major way. After seeing this you realized you didn't strike gold like you thought and now you are fucked because you looked foolish projecting YOUR gay fantasies into the statement and now you have it in your sig lol it was you Neo who interpreted it in a homosexual way even though the clip has absolutely nothing to do with what is on YOUR MIND , YOU turned into a gay reference so again what does that say about your first reaction? and your sig isn't even accurate further proof you're thinking me of me in a sexual way , " ND Swallows My Milkshake " LMFAO I said I drink your milkshake YOU turned it into I swallows LMMFAO you exposed yourself by claiming I'm gay by projecting your underlying fantasies . as usual backfire

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No as usual you'd have to be able to prove me wrong to be in my league , never mind above it . I've made my statements YOU denied them all , I backed them all up AFTER the fact using professionals and IFBB judges YOU haven't that's the bottom line . You didn't know the first thing about competitive bodybuilding until I taught you , YOU didn't know balance & proportion were two separate entties YOU didn't know all rounds are physique rounds , YOU didn't know Dorian was the better conditioned athlete , you thought you had an idea until you were corrected my times by me and others and you're so stupid even when corrected you deny , deny , deny , play with words , use faulty logic so only in this area are you ' waay above my league ' lol

yawn, I have owned you at every game you played. When you posted the most unflattering pics of Ronnie you could find, I retaliated with even worse pics of Dorian. When you posted quotes in favor of Dorian, I responded with more quotes from more respectable sources proclaiming Ronnie as having the greatest physique of all-time. When you posted the IFBB judging criteria to show how Dorian meets it better, I showed you how Ronnie meets the criteria better than Dorian. When you attacked my comparisons by accusing them of being unfair, I demonstrated how your comparisons were even more unfair. Face it, kiddo. I own you at your own games and now I own you. ;)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 01:07:33 PM
incorrect use of argument ad populum. Your poor reading comprehension isn't even up for discussion. It's been proven over and over by myself and several other posters. ;)

ooohh, looks like you are getting frustrated after I called you out on your bullshit. I'm still waiting for you to explain how you can mimic me after you claim I'm copying you?

meltdown

yawn, I have owned you at every game you played. When you posted the most unflattering pics of Ronnie you could find, I retaliated with even worse pics of Dorian. When you posted quotes in favor of Dorian, I responded with more quotes from more respectable sources proclaiming Ronnie as having the greatest physique of all-time. When you posted the IFBB judging criteria to show how Dorian meets it better, I showed you how Ronnie meets the criteria better than Dorian. When you attacked my comparisons by accusing them of being unfair, I demonstrated how your comparisons were even more unfair. Face it, kiddo. I own you at your own games and now I own you. ;)

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incorrect use of argument ad populum. Your poor reading comprehension isn't even up for discussion. It's been proven over and over by myself and several other posters. ;)

No perfect example of textbook appeal to numbers  " many posters called you out on it " isn't the first time you've used this tactic wont be the last

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ooohh, looks like you are getting frustrated after I called you out on your bullshit. I'm still waiting for you to explain how you can mimic me after you claim I'm copying you?

I don't get frustrated like you and Hulkster and pumpster and call people what was it? " dirty Mexicans " that's your bag , and again you've made a career on GetBig of directly copying ME old news and who said I was mimicking you? and all you do is copy me when I call you on your this,  your response is  I was mimicking you " which is an outright lie you were and and still are copying me

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meltdown

Brilliant retort lmfao you have absolutely NO response for that and know it and looked for the easiest way out , again now where near my league  ;)

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yawn, I have owned you at every game you played. When you posted the most unflattering pics of Ronnie you could find, I retaliated with even worse pics of Dorian. When you posted quotes in favor of Dorian, I responded with more quotes from more respectable sources proclaiming Ronnie as having the greatest physique of all-time. When you posted the IFBB judging criteria to show how Dorian meets it better, I showed you how Ronnie meets the criteria better than Dorian. When you attacked my comparisons by accusing them of being unfair, I demonstrated how your comparisons were even more unfair. Face it, kiddo. I own you at your own games and now I own you. ;)

yawn? where did I see that before?   ;) another laughable paragraph in a pathetic attempt to save face . I never started comparing the bad pictures of Ronnie to Dorian NEVER I did it in response to Hulkster & pumpster who played that game long before you even started , so again you're wrong on this account , I have scanned & posted more great pictures of both than ALL of you

I posted quotes that confirmed what I said after that fact which shows that I know what I'm talking about and I posted quotes that specifically compared the two , something you can't seem to do. and more respected sources? LMFAO like Greg Valentino and Ryan Mackie? these are your ' more respected sources ' and once again textbook appeal to numbers , my quotes are better than yours because I have more LMFAO I can always depend on your for weak logic .

On the subject of the judging criteria you NEVER once showed how Ronnie met it better you only claimed it and backed it up with nothing.

 I always maintained that Dorian at his best had better balance & proportion than Ronnie ( something you didn't know was two separate entities I might ad lol ) and a long time after I made this claim I backed it by the people who matter the most IFBB judge , Dorian Yates said specific to the argument at hand that he had better balance & proportion than Ronnie

the same goes with density & dryness a fact which once again you denied until you were blue in the face , no way could Dorian be harder & drier than Ronnie and MD would side with you lol once again I back up my claims with many sources claiming Dorian's conditioning is unrivaled even to this day and once again by an IFBB judge Yates once again confirming what I always maintained he has better conditioning than Ronnie .

The comparisons Oh Boy lol your comparisons are an abortion heavily slanted by a very biased fan-boy and I'm surprised you brought up the ones I made , the difference between you and I is I can admit the ones I made were off , you keep trying to pass of those creations as an accurate representation of reality LMFAO comparisons where they have the same lat length oh wait another one of your genius guesstimations was there was only a 1cm difference LMFAO where Dorian has the same size hips & waist , Ronnie has the same size calves lol just junk

I have have and other have proven you dead wrong on most of your idiotic statements , like Ronnie despite being 10 pounds lighter than Dorian carries more muscular bulk HA ha ha ha ha ha Ronnie 2003 is his prime  ::) that you're bound to all quotes if you believe one , a statement you never stuck to yourself ( hypocrite anyone? ) Ronnie was better conditioned than Dorian , etc

See when it comes to the topic of competitive bodybuilding you were and still are very ignorant on how it's judged and how to apply the criteria , you never even knew the criteria until I posted it . How does one comment on who's better when they don't even know how the game is played? they can't period. you never knew ALL Rounds are physique rounds I told you this , again you can't comment on who's better when you're totally ignorant on how the game is played , reminds me of Hulkster saying how it's a shame when Yates wins with perfect scores until Kevin Horton explained Dorian could still loose 3 poses and seeing the highs & lows are tossed out could still receive a perfect score , IGNORANCE of how contests are judged you're in good company

I made my case and you or any of the other ignorant idiots have yet to counter it and I backed up all my claims after the fact

Dorian would beat Ronnie because :

Depending on the year carries more muscular bulk
Dorian has better density & dryness
Dorian has better balance & proportion
Dorian is more complete
Dorian is better at posing & presentation

Ronnie may meet PART of the criteria better than Dorian however when push comes to shove and considering all rounds are physique rounds Dorian would beat Ronnie , my argument is ironclad you can't touch it , they can't try as you may you've all failed

You own nothing , you're desperate to own me and attack me because you know I'm right and it's all you have left , I wouldn't try and take that away from you lol on the subject and topic of competitive bodybuilding I have proven for a fact you're totally ignorant and have been consistently corrected by me and others  ;)
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Post by: Mars on December 10, 2008, 01:09:24 PM
(http://philip.greenspun.com/images/20050813-guy-1.3.jpg)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 01:22:18 PM
You've tried to attach some sort of homosexual connotation the "milkshake" reference made by ND, when none exists.  Yet, it is you that keeps posting homosexual propositions, apparently getting some sort of titillation from doing so.  As usual, you have nothing of substance to contribute.

ha ha ha ha exactly he wants it to be a gay reference I wonder why lol
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Post by: XFACTOR on December 10, 2008, 01:42:43 PM
ha ha ha ha exactly he wants it to be a gay reference I wonder why lol

ND you seem like a good guy, you really do.  Let it go man. Invest your time in something else, this is nuts.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 01:52:14 PM
ND you seem like a good guy, you really do.  Let it go man. Invest your time in something else, this is nuts.

Thanks man ! it's a bodybuilding board lol what else are we going to do? and I've tried to let it go these guys tend to follow me around .
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Post by: d0nny2600 on December 10, 2008, 01:54:05 PM
Thanks man ! it's a bodybuilding board lol what else are we going to do? and I've tried to let it go these guys tend to follow me around .
ND schools these clowns every day...if anything he is entertaining me by crushing them!
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Post by: XFACTOR on December 10, 2008, 01:54:36 PM
Thanks man ! it's a bodybuilding board lol what else are we going to do? and I've tried to let it go these guys tend to follow me around .

I guess you're right it is a bb forum, but how long will this go on.  As long as it's not taking away from you personal life or keeping you awake at night  :)   fuck em'
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Post by: XFACTOR on December 10, 2008, 01:57:11 PM
ND schools these clowns every day...if anything he is entertaining me by crushing them!

I am not going to lie I think Ronnie looked much better in his prime. however ND presents a much better argument then the hulkster guy.  ND we are looking for good sales guys like you! ND talks about other shit too.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 01:57:19 PM
I guess you're right it is a bb forum, but how long will this go on.  As long as it's not taking away from you personal life or keeping you awake at night  :)   fuck em'

You're right the topic is played out ! lol but in light of the new Yates pic it was bound to draw comparisons
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 01:57:53 PM
ND schools these clowns every day...if anything he is entertaining me by crushing them!


Great post !  lol
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 02:00:37 PM
I am not going to lie I think Ronnie looked much better in his prime. however ND presents a much better argument then the hulkster guy.  ND we are looking for good sales guys like you! ND talks about other shit too.

I have no problem with people thinking Ronnie was better , hell the majority feel that way! and sales I sucked at sales always have lol I tried it once when I was a teenager and failed lol yeah I mean I do like to discuss bodybuilding in general not just this topic although this has dominated a lot of my time admittedly to much of it one here at least but I do try to help other members out with pics are articles etc , I post on a lot of topics not just this one.
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Post by: d0nny2600 on December 10, 2008, 02:01:23 PM
I have no problem with people thinking Ronnie was better , hell the majority feel that way! and sales I sucked at sales always have lol I tried it once when I was a teenager and failed lol yeah I mean I do like to discuss bodybuilding in general not just this topic although this has dominated a lot of my time admittedly to much of it one here at least but I do try to help other members out with pics are articles etc , I post on a lot of topics not just this one.
Correct. Huckster can only post about Ronnie. ND actually posts elsewhere.
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Post by: pumpster on December 10, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Thanks man ! it's a bodybuilding board lol what else are we going to do? and I've tried to let it go these guys tend to follow me around .

Some of hulksters gimmicks promting NerD to discuss his favorite subject, himself LOL
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Post by: England_1 on December 10, 2008, 02:21:19 PM
Some of hulksters gimmicks

Thanks for the confirmation  :-*
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 02:22:07 PM
Some of hulksters gimmicks promting NerD to discuss his favorite subject, himself LOL

You're claiming Xfactor is Hulkster?
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 10, 2008, 04:25:09 PM
No perfect example of textbook appeal to numbers  " many posters called you out on it " isn't the first time you've used this tactic wont be the last

I don't get frustrated like you and Hulkster and pumpster and call people what was it? " dirty Mexicans " that's your bag , and again you've made a career on GetBig of directly copying ME old news and who said I was mimicking you? and all you do is copy me when I call you on your this,  your response is  I was mimicking you " which is an outright lie you were and and still are copying me

Brilliant retort lmfao you have absolutely NO response for that and know it and looked for the easiest way out , again now where near my league

yawn? where did I see that before?  another laughable paragraph in a pathetic attempt to save face . I never started comparing the bad pictures of Ronnie to Dorian NEVER I did it in response to Hulkster & pumpster who played that game long before you even started , so again you're wrong on this account , I have scanned & posted more great pictures of both than ALL of you

I posted quotes that confirmed what I said after that fact which shows that I know what I'm talking about and I posted quotes that specifically compared the two , something you can't seem to do. and more respected sources? LMFAO like Greg Valentino and Ryan Mackie? these are your ' more respected sources ' and once again textbook appeal to numbers , my quotes are better than yours because I have more LMFAO I can always depend on your for weak logic .

On the subject of the judging criteria you NEVER once showed how Ronnie met it better you only claimed it and backed it up with nothing.

 I always maintained that Dorian at his best had better balance & proportion than Ronnie ( something you didn't know was two separate entities I might ad lol ) and a long time after I made this claim I backed it by the people who matter the most IFBB judge , Dorian Yates said specific to the argument at hand that he had better balance & proportion than Ronnie

the same goes with density & dryness a fact which once again you denied until you were blue in the face , no way could Dorian be harder & drier than Ronnie and MD would side with you lol once again I back up my claims with many sources claiming Dorian's conditioning is unrivaled even to this day and once again by an IFBB judge Yates once again confirming what I always maintained he has better conditioning than Ronnie .

The comparisons Oh Boy lol your comparisons are an abortion heavily slanted by a very biased fan-boy and I'm surprised you brought up the ones I made , the difference between you and I is I can admit the ones I made were off , you keep trying to pass of those creations as an accurate representation of reality LMFAO comparisons where they have the same lat length oh wait another one of your genius guesstimations was there was only a 1cm difference LMFAO where Dorian has the same size hips & waist , Ronnie has the same size calves lol just junk

I have have and other have proven you dead wrong on most of your idiotic statements , like Ronnie despite being 10 pounds lighter than Dorian carries more muscular bulk HA ha ha ha ha ha Ronnie 2003 is his prime that you're bound to all quotes if you believe one , a statement you never stuck to yourself ( hypocrite anyone? ) Ronnie was better conditioned than Dorian , etc

See when it comes to the topic of competitive bodybuilding you were and still are very ignorant on how it's judged and how to apply the criteria , you never even knew the criteria until I posted it . How does one comment on who's better when they don't even know how the game is played? they can't period. you never knew ALL Rounds are physique rounds I told you this , again you can't comment on who's better when you're totally ignorant on how the game is played , reminds me of Hulkster saying how it's a shame when Yates wins with perfect scores until Kevin Horton explained Dorian could still loose 3 poses and seeing the highs & lows are tossed out could still receive a perfect score , IGNORANCE of how contests are judged you're in good company

I made my case and you or any of the other ignorant idiots have yet to counter it and I backed up all my claims after the fact

Dorian would beat Ronnie because :

Depending on the year carries more muscular bulk
Dorian has better density & dryness
Dorian has better balance & proportion
Dorian is more complete
Dorian is better at posing & presentation

Ronnie may meet PART of the criteria better than Dorian however when push comes to shove and considering all rounds are physique rounds Dorian would beat Ronnie , my argument is ironclad you can't touch it , they can't try as you may you've all failed

You own nothing , you're desperate to own me and attack me because you know I'm right and it's all you have left , I wouldn't try and take that away from you lol on the subject and topic of competitive bodybuilding I have proven for a fact you're totally ignorant and have been consistently corrected by me and others

meltdown
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Post by: England_1 on December 10, 2008, 04:29:59 PM
meltdown

Translation: I have nothing.

You are a mental midget who makes a living teaching PE classes hahahaha

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Post by: XFACTOR on December 10, 2008, 04:46:02 PM
You're claiming Xfactor is Hulkster?

lol Really?  That's a first.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 10, 2008, 05:01:56 PM
meltdown

I knew you were looking for a way out and this response was expected .  ;)

Neo your silence speaks volumes.
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 10, 2008, 05:53:06 PM
Translation: I have nothing.

writing a novel =/= victory. ;)

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You are a mental midget who makes a living teaching PE classes hahahaha

so you still believe I'm a PE teacher? Let's see... I'm a personal trainer, PE teacher, terrorist, and Seminole Indian according to you stupid nuthuggers. ::)
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Post by: delta9mda on November 27, 2018, 02:38:09 AM
Yates. All day.  :P
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Post by: oldtimer1 on November 27, 2018, 09:03:55 AM
I know it goes against the majority but I feel Yates was better. His 93 condition was insane.
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Post by: johnny1 on November 27, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
I know it goes against the majority but I feel Yates was better. His 93 condition was insane.
yup agreed he was better balanced than Coleman and his all round conditioning was incredible Coleman was obviously bigger than Yates with those insane muscle belly’s etc his conditioning was great in his own right (98-99)
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Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 27, 2018, 11:24:37 AM
I know it goes against the majority but I feel Yates was better. His 93 condition was insane.
Yes.  The change from 92 to 93 was staggering.  Remember the Flex black and white cover before the Olympia?  He must have discovered some new drug or something.
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Post by: honest on November 27, 2018, 03:20:45 PM
Yates 93 Olympia showing was the peak of bodybuilding, his physique and that of others never went past that display.  I would go as far as to say that Flex ironman 93 was probably the next best, then Kevin 92, Big Ron for me just never had the balance of this guys at their peaks. He outpaced all of them probably at some point, though an argument could be made again for Dorian 93, but his structure never really had the balance of of the guys mentioned at their peaks.