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Title: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: BatistaSL on December 11, 2008, 12:01:45 AM: Can you guys help me with the above.

I want to know the best combination of test and deca for a beginner...

Really know nothing about this..so pls verify.

(should be deca and test only since that's all i can find here)
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: Arnold jr on December 11, 2008, 05:55:52 AM: wk 1-12 deca 200mg/wk
wk 1-16 test 500mg/wk

wk 19 start PCT

PCT should consist of HCG, nolva and/or clomid.
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: tstmaniac on December 11, 2008, 10:12:00 PM: AJ have you post cycled without hcg ever?
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: Alex23 on December 11, 2008, 11:03:56 PM: Don't use clomid, will fuck up your vision permanently. Do your research on it.
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: Rimbaud on December 12, 2008, 07:49:23 AM: Quote from: Alex23 on December 11, 2008, 11:03:56 PM
Don't use clomid, will fuck up your vision permanently. Do your research on it.

True it can. However, I've noticed that in a "light" dose you may get some "tracers" but they go away after you stop.
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: iron_dawg on December 12, 2008, 07:54:16 AM: Quote from: Rimbaud on December 12, 2008, 07:49:23 AM
True it can. However, I've noticed that in a "light" dose you may get some "tracers" but they go away after you stop.
I have only got slight blurred peripheral vision and that was at 150mg so went down to 100mg and
was good nothing permant though.
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: Rimbaud on December 12, 2008, 08:13:43 AM: Quote from: iron_dawg on December 12, 2008, 07:54:16 AM
I have only got slight blurred peripheral vision and that was at 150mg so went down to 100mg and
was good nothing permant though.

I had tracers at 100mg & 150mg...at 50mg nothing. However, any dose of Clomid gives me fucked up dreams.
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: Stavios on December 12, 2008, 08:51:25 AM: Quote from: Alex23 on December 11, 2008, 11:03:56 PM
Don't use clomid, will fuck up your vision permanently. Do your research on it.

that's the truth right there >:(
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: efanhowz on December 12, 2008, 10:14:52 AM: i didnt know that. i thought it was the accutane or just aging but maybe it was the clomid that contributed to me not having as clear vision. does anyone have any other important information like that about common aas that will F you up? i heard cabergoline is bad for the heart
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: tstmaniac on December 12, 2008, 04:08:33 PM: Quote from: Rimbaud on December 12, 2008, 07:49:23 AM
True it can. However, I've noticed that in a "light" dose you may get some "tracers" but they go away after you stop.

yea like you get a little blury once in awhile?
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: BatistaSL on December 12, 2008, 05:34:51 PM: Quote from: Arnold jr on December 11, 2008, 05:55:52 AM
wk 1-12 deca 200mg/wk
wk 1-16 test 500mg/wk

wk 19 start PCT

PCT should consist of HCG, nolva and/or clomid.

thank you bro...

I would appreciate if you can describe the post cycle treatment. I really know nothing about it. and I have no clue about "HCG, nolva and/or clomid". I'll try to find out if they are available here....
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: BatistaSL on December 12, 2008, 05:36:34 PM: and I thank every one for contributing to this thread...
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: 4thAD on December 12, 2008, 05:43:49 PM: You can use clomid successfully at doses as low as 25mg ed. Clomid problems are over rated, and the drug works much better than nolva for PCT.
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: Emmortal on December 12, 2008, 06:11:13 PM: Quote from: 4thAD on December 12, 2008, 05:43:49 PM
You can use clomid successfully at doses as low as 25mg ed. Clomid problems are over rated, and the drug works much better than nolva for PCT.

I agree. A lot of people use too much of it which is where the sides come into play. You can get great results with 25-50mgs, not much need to go over that for our purposes.
Title: Re: First cycle: deca and test
Post by: BatistaSL on December 12, 2008, 06:21:22 PM: Quote from: 4thAD on December 12, 2008, 05:43:49 PM
You can use clomid successfully at doses as low as 25mg ed. Clomid problems are over rated, and the drug works much better than nolva for PCT.

thank you... Feel better now. ;D