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When Ronnie won back to back Olympia and Arnold Classic in 2001, He accomplished the impossible, peaking twice in the same season, rapping the entire "cream of the 90's" in September and then doing the same thing 5 months later to the "upcoming millennium generation".
Something Yates never did in 6 years; Win (questionably), disappear, reappear, reapeat.
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Yates didnīt bother, he was unbeatable. Just won the biggest show, no bullshit.
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Yates didnīt bother, he was unbeatable. Just won the biggest show, no bullshit.
Could be...
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Could be...
The good ol' days of Flex :'(
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When Ronnie won back to back Olympia and Arnold Classic in 2001, He accomplished the impossible, peaking twice in the same season, rapping the entire "cream of the 90's" in September and then doing the same thing 5 months later to the "upcoming millennium generation".
Something Yates never did in 6 years; Win (questionably), disappear, reappear, reapeat.
didn't dexter jackson just do that? :D
Alex, you know how fierce the competition in the early 90's was?
Dorian yates didn't only win, he DOMINATED, and nobody questioned why he should have won
Many people felt cheated when Ronnie won
Yates has a near 90% winning percentage
never placed lower than 2nd, only placed 2nd twice at the start of his career
Ronnie's is 40% ish
and yates beat him 8 times
Ronnie's olympia wins were controversial
without a question it should have gone like this
2000 Levrone
2001 Cutler
2002 Levrone
2004 Cutler
maybe 2003 for Cutler
wins at 98, 99 over flex were not solid at all, many including Flex felt Flex should have won, he turned his back on Ronnie and said he was number one
in 1993 his best year he raised Dorian's hand and said Dorian was unbeatable, accused him of being on super drugs.
I used to defend Ronnie until I saw how dominant Yates was and that his own peers saw him as unbeatable!
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Ahahaha true... I forgot Dexter just did the same thing... kinda lost interest of the late... lots of tongues and oil...
I have no strong feeling one way or another... Both look goo at their best. Ronnie is far more impressive however.
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Ahahaha true... I forgot Dexter just did the same thing... kinda lost interest of the late... lots of tongues and oil...
I have no strong feeling one way or another... Both look goo at their best. Ronnie is far more impressive however.
I'm a Kevin Levrone fan myself (if you haven't noticed) ;D
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Yates has a near 90% winning percentage
never placed lower than 2nd, only placed 2nd twice at the start of his career
Ronnie's is 40% ish
and yates beat him 8 times
Ronnie's olympia wins were controversial
without a question it should have gone like this
2000 Levrone
2001 Cutler
2002 Levrone
2004 Cutler
maybe 2003 for Cutler
I've not paid attention to why everyone rips on you but you're not helping with this post.
Here's some advice. Listen to people and stop thinking you know everything.
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The epitome of bodybuilding. It'll take at least 10-15years before this can be repeated again.
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without a question it should have gone like this
2000 Levrone
HAHAHAHAHAHAH you're a dellusional blinded tool...
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Big Bubba looks great with the water retention, looking soft, no calves or forearms, missing aesthetics, symmetry, proportion and that 11 month pregnant gut ::)
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Yes, but Dex wasn't Mr. Olympia when he won the Arnold.
He did it in reverse. It's very psychological going into a show knowing you can knock off the number one guy in the world.
AXA Everyone one of Yates wins could be contested except 92 and 93.
94 Levrone
95 Levrone
96 Ray
97 Nasser
Ronnies Olympia's may have been controversial to you and ND to the general public no... The only questionable O' for Ronnie was 01 and maybe 02 (even though he wasn't at his best no one was good enough to beat him)
Ronnie had world class, arms, chest, back, quads and shoulders
Yates had world class, back and calves. He was all conditioning.
People will remember Ronnie forever in bodybuilding Yates is proving to be a 2nd tier Mr. Olympia.
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Ronnie Coleman is the biggest and best bodybuilder we have ever seen thus far, hands down.
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Yes, but Dex wasn't Mr. Olympia when he won the Arnold.
He did it in reverse. It's very psychological going into a show knowing you can knock off the number one guy in the world.
AXA Everyone one of Yates wins could be contested except 92 and 93.
94 Levrone
95 Levrone
96 Ray
97 Nasser
Ronnies Olympia's may have been controversial to you and ND to the general public no... The only questionable O' for Ronnie was 01 and maybe 02 (even though he wasn't at his best no one was good enough to beat him)
Ronnie had world class, arms, chest, back, quads and shoulders
Yates had world class, back and calves. He was all conditioning.
People will remember Ronnie forever in bodybuilding Yates is proving to be a 2nd tier Mr. Olympia.
Levrone never complained about Yates beating him, he never beat Yates, to this day he considers Yates unbeatable
he feels he should have won 2000 and 2002, and he is right, and he beat Ronnie on SEVERAL occasions.
It's bodybuilding, it's about the total package you represent not how peaked your biceps are ;)
Dorian had alot more mass than Ronnie, with way way better conditioning
Yates had better forearms and triceps than Ronnie
better back
huge, proportional legs
over all proportiona and symmytry
and his shoulders were better than Ronnie's
Ronnie said it himself, that Yates had the best side chest of all time
in 1998 he said if Yates had competed, he would have beat Ronnie
he represented an unbeatable total package
I used to defend Ronnie until yesterday, think about it, I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusion I have ;)
here are some cannonball delts
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Actually Ronnie lost. The last two Mr. O's. Also in 2001 and 2002. 98 was questionable as was 2005.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251919.0;attach=293026;image)
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Actually Ronnie lost. The last two Mr. O's. Also in 2001 and 2002. 98 was questionable as was 2005.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251919.0;attach=293026;image)
he lost in 2002 to gunter, that was funny shit, in the GNC show ;D
Mr. Olympia got beat in the GNC show LMAO !!!!
destruction
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Levrone never complained about Yates beating him, he never beat Yates, to this day he considers Yates unbeatable
he feels he should have won 2000 and 2002, and he is right, and he beat Ronnie on SEVERAL occasions.
It's bodybuilding, it's about the total package you represent not how peaked your biceps are ;)
Dorian had alot more mass than Ronnie, with way way better conditioning
Yates had better forearms and triceps than Ronnie
better back
huge, proportional legs
over all proportiona and symmytry
and his shoulders were better than Ronnie's
Ronnie said it himself, that Yates had the best side chest of all time
in 1998 he said if Yates had competed, he would have beat Ronnie
he represented an unbeatable total package
I used to defend Ronnie until yesterday, think about it, I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusion I have ;)
here are some cannonball delts
I love how you and the other Yates nuthuggers continuously use 1993 OFFSEASON pictures to support your views. Why is that? Let me tell you why because there are few if any impressive contest photos of Yates.
So from now on in further arguements regarding Yates and Coleman, how about only showing contest photos because this is when it counts....am I correct?
Before Ronnie became the dominant champion he ended up being be believed Yates could have still beat him. In the end he said he would have beaten Yates and Yates also conceded this fact.
Yates had more mass than Ronnie? Yates 270 in 1997 at his biggest, Ronnie 294 in 2004 at his biggest....now who had more mass?
Yes, bodybuilding, Ronnie had a collection of worldclass bodyparts that made him the best ever. Yates had local NPC arms, National NPC shoulders and legs and Olympian back, calves and conditioning. Ronnie wins. You guys can say Ronnie said this and other people said that but in the end. RONNIE AND YATES and many others say Ronnie was the best Mr. O EVER.
Remember the show happens on stage not 6 weeks out.
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Levrone never complained about losing to Yates because he never beat Yates.
He had beaten Ronnie many times, he didn't like that Ronnie came from nowhere and beat them all.
I remember his comments on UG board back in early 1999. It was like 'Winning when he was 9th last year. How can he do that?'
Anyone disputing Ronnie 1998?
2001 - In pics Jay looks good. On video, there are pro's and then there is Ronnie. AXA seriously, with your body, you should be quiet and learn. But whatever just start another thread on this shit.
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When Ronnie won back to back Olympia and Arnold Classic in 2001, He accomplished the impossible, peaking twice in the same season, rapping the entire "cream of the 90's" in September and then doing the same thing 5 months later to the "upcoming millennium generation".
Something Yates never did in 6 years; Win (questionably), disappear, reappear, reapeat.
reapeatis not a word.
In 2001 Ronnie peaked once - at the Arnold.
Later in 2001 Ronnie competed below par and nearly lost to Cutler.
Get a hair cut and lose some fat.
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I love how you and the other Yates nuthuggers continuously use 1993 OFFSEASON pictures to support your views. Why is that? Let me tell you why because there are few if any impressive contest photos of Yates.
So from now on in further arguements regarding Yates and Coleman, how about only showing contest photos because this is when it counts....am I correct?
Before Ronnie became the dominant champion he ended up being be believed Yates could have still beat him. In the end he said he would have beaten Yates and Yates also conceded this fact.
Yates had more mass than Ronnie? Yates 270 in 1997 at his biggest, Ronnie 294 in 2004 at his biggest....now who had more mass?
Yes, bodybuilding, Ronnie had a collection of worldclass bodyparts that made him the best ever. Yates had local NPC arms, National NPC shoulders and legs and Olympian back, calves and conditioning. Ronnie wins. You guys can say Ronnie said this and other people said that but in the end. RONNIE AND YATES and many others say Ronnie was the best Mr. O EVER.
Remember the show happens on stage not 6 weeks out.
Dorian was not offseason in the famous shots lmfao. In those shots he was 269lbs and in better condition than Coleman ever was at any point in time ;)
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Dorian was not offseason in the famous shots lmfao. In those shots he was 269lbs and in better condition than Coleman ever was at any point in time ;)
offseason doz looks more like this
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The epitome of bodybuilding. It'll take at least 10-15years before this can be repeated again.
A repeat of what? A very huge, but disproportioned champion, with a penchant for holding water and displaying sub par conditioning? To make no mention of the ridiculous "raise the roof" gestures that come with each and every posing routine. I won't even get into his predilection of pulling his posing trunks half way up his ass. ::)
People can express a personal preference for Ronnie's physique over Dorian's, that is fine. However, Dorian was twice the champion Ronnie will ever be. Dorian was much more cerebral in nature, not to mention independent. He controlled and gave consideration to every aspect of his contest preparations, leaving no stone unturned. Rather than chasing more and more size, he instead chose to refine his physique, always placing a premium on conditioning. And not unlike Arnold, Yates put effort and planning into a routine that best suited and displayed his physique and exemplified that of a true professional.
When Dorian walked on stage, he looked every bit a champion. The top competitors would readily admit that Yates all but had things wrapped up, even before the contest began. Dorian dominated unlike anyone before him, or since. Ronnie, although accomplished in his own right, will have the legacy of a bodybuilder who merely went to the gym and threw around big weights, while retaining an expensive "guru" to hold his hand, so that he didn't have to worry about thinking and chewing gum at the same time.
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I love how you and the other Yates nuthuggers continuously use 1993 OFFSEASON pictures to support your views. Why is that? Let me tell you why because there are few if any impressive contest photos of Yates.
So from now on in further arguements regarding Yates and Coleman, how about only showing contest photos because this is when it counts....am I correct?
Before Ronnie became the dominant champion he ended up being be believed Yates could have still beat him. In the end he said he would have beaten Yates and Yates also conceded this fact.
Yates had more mass than Ronnie? Yates 270 in 1997 at his biggest, Ronnie 294 in 2004 at his biggest....now who had more mass?
Yes, bodybuilding, Ronnie had a collection of worldclass bodyparts that made him the best ever. Yates had local NPC arms, National NPC shoulders and legs and Olympian back, calves and conditioning. Ronnie wins. You guys can say Ronnie said this and other people said that but in the end. RONNIE AND YATES and many others say Ronnie was the best Mr. O EVER.
Remember the show happens on stage not 6 weeks out.
here some contest pics of Yates destroying everybody, we post the black and white photos because they're legendary ;)
Ronnie Coleman 1998-2002 was barely 250 hahahahahahahaha
I'm not a Dorian nut hugger, I was defending Ronnie until a couple days ago until I came to my senses 8)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/24228-3/1995-mr-olympia-139.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a8b133a4ab70a61fa74a6c1795b43974)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/24144-4/1995-mr-olympia-151.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a8b133a4ab70a61fa74a6c1795b43974)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/23991-4/1995-mr-olympia-149.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a8b133a4ab70a61fa74a6c1795b43974)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/100/images/Dorian_Yates_photo68.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/100/images/Dorian_Yates_photo53.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/100/images/Dorian_Yates_photo277).jpg
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/100/images/Dorian_Yates_photo271.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/100/images/Dorian_Yates_photo270.jpg)
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A repeat of what? A very huge, but disproportioned champion, with a penchant for holding water and displaying sub par conditioning? To make no mention of the ridiculous "raise the roof" gestures that come with each and every posing routine. I won't even get into his predilection of pulling his posing trunks half way up his ass. ::)
People can express a personal preference for Ronnie's physique over Dorian's, that is fine. However, Dorian was twice the champion Ronnie will ever be. Dorian was much more cerebral in nature, not to mention independent. He controlled and gave consideration to every aspect of his contest preparations, leaving no stone unturned. Rather than chasing more and more size, he instead chose to refine his physique, always placing a premium on conditioning. And not unlike Arnold, Yates put effort and planning into a routine that best suited and displayed his physique and exemplified that of a true professional.
When Dorian walked on stage, he looked every bit a champion. The top competitors would readily admit that Yates all but had things wrapped up, even before the contest began. Dorian dominated unlike anyone before him, or since. [b]Ronnie, although accomplished in his own right, will have the legacy of a bodybuilder who merely went to the gym and threw around big weights, while retaining an expensive "guru" to hold his hand, so that he didn't have to worry about thinking and chewing gum at the same time. [/b]
ROFLMAO!!!!!
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Congratulations AXA, you finally see Dorian's dominance.
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Ronnie Coleman is the biggest and best bodybuilder we have ever seen thus far, hands down.
Bigger and better than Dorian Yates?
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like dorian could come close
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like dorian could come close
:-X
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like dorian could come close
That's a gorgeous layout!
Hey, who do you think would make a better web designer, BIG Ronnie Coleman, or Dorian "The Shadow" Yates?
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Yes, but Dex wasn't Mr. Olympia when he won the Arnold.
He did it in reverse. It's very psychological going into a show knowing you can knock off the number one guy in the world.
AXA Everyone one of Yates wins could be contested except 92 and 93.
94 Levrone
95 Levrone
96 Ray
97 Nasser
Ronnies Olympia's may have been controversial to you and ND to the general public no... The only questionable O' for Ronnie was 01 and maybe 02 (even though he wasn't at his best no one was good enough to beat him)
Ronnie had world class, arms, chest, back, quads and shoulders
Yates had world class, back and calves. He was all conditioning.
People will remember Ronnie forever in bodybuilding Yates is proving to be a 2nd tier Mr. Olympia.
this is what im sayin...
man coleman had world class everything aside from abs a and calves
dorian.. just had a good back
... anyone who says dorin is better than ronnie must have some deep motive or bias... for whatever reason...
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this is what im sayin...
man coleman had world class everything aside from abs a and calves
dorian.. just had a good back
... anyone who says dorin is better than ronnie must have some deep motive or bias... for whatever reason...
Ronnie says Dorian is better what's your excuse now?
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when i see him say that from his mouth.... not some bb magazine
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"i would say thats your opinion ronnie
but dorian couldnt even carry your gym shoes"
coleman also said he is the greatest bber... so you should take that on board the same way you did the latter statement
(that didnt go according to plan did it) ;)
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when i see him say that from his mouth.... not some bb magazine
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"i would say thats your opinion ronnie
but dorian couldnt even carry your gym shoes"
coleman also said he is the greatest bber... so you should take that on board the same way you did the latter statement
(that didnt go according to plan did it) ;)
Oh so the opinion only matters when you hear it directly from Ronnie himself? and I did here this myself on Special Ed's internet radio show ;)
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
and did Ronnie himself tell you he was the Greatest bb ever? because according to your logic it's useless unless he told you directly . ;)
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Oh so the opinion only matters when you hear it directly from Ronnie himself? and I did here this myself on Special Ed's internet radio show ;)
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
and did Ronnie himself tell you he was the Greatest bb ever? because according to your logic it's useless unless he told you directly . ;)
Ronnie said that because he knows how the politics worked.
If Dorian won in 97 looking the way he did he wasn't ever going to lose.
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True champions and professionals with class and dignity!
This guy, not so much.. ::)
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Oh so the opinion only matters when you hear it directly from Ronnie himself? and I did here this myself on Special Ed's internet radio show ;)
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
and did Ronnie himself tell you he was the Greatest bb ever? because according to your logic it's useless unless he told you directly . ;)
nope im just throwing out lists.. to show you what the experts think...
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fact yates will be never be mentioned in a greatest arm atricle... because his arms sucked..
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same as coleman wont be mentioned a greatest calf article because his calves sucked...
.. i can deal with the truth
you cant
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nope im just throwing out lists.. to show you what the experts think...
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fact yates will be never be mentioned in a greatest arm atricle... because his arms sucked..
Wrong thread, please try again. ::)
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no this is where i intended to post it
so.....
the contents of this cup
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hope this helps
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Dorian was not offseason in the famous shots lmfao. In those shots he was 269lbs and in better condition than Coleman ever was at any point in time ;)
6 weeks out. If it's not onstage it doesn't count case closed
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Ronnie said that because he knows how the politics worked.
If Dorian won in 97 looking the way he did he wasn't ever going to lose.
of course.
but blithering idiot ND can't understand how to interpret the meaning of what he said.
only a true moron would think dorian in that stage could even come close to Ronnie as he approached his Mr. Olympia wins..
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no this is where i intended to post it
so.....
the contents of this cup
-is an indication of how clever i thought your last post was ---->\_/<----- NOTICE: the cup is empty
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hope this helps
Is there anyone here that can actually type a complete and coherent sentence, or God forbid, use a paragraph? Must be a Coleman fan. ;D You probably just wasted a good hour coming up with that little gem. I can just imagine you with a telestrator. lol
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you get the message though
hope this helps
toodles
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6 weeks out. If it's not onstage it doesn't count case closed
one problem: dorian looked better in those pics than he did on stage that year..
and look what happens when his best ever gets compared to Ronnie LOL
que the guy excuses!
::)
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dorian at his best ronnie at his best
dorian couldnt carry colemans gym shoes..
i mean just look at that picture
:'(
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one problem: dorian looked better in those pics than he did on stage that year..
and look what happens when his best ever gets compared to Ronnie LOL
que the guy excuses!
::)
Hey Huckster, is there a Kenny Rogers Roasters sign shining on Ronnie, or did you get carried away with your sharpening tool again? lol
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Dorian dominated amazing bodybuilders at their best, Ronnie shouldn't have won many of the olympia's he did
end of story.
This photo = End of story
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Hey Huckster, is there a Kenny Rogers Roasters sign shining on Ronnie, or did you get carried away with your sharpening tool again? lol
huh? that pic has been around for ages and it is not touched up.
you just can't handle the cold hard reality can you?
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Platz's thighs just look so great with shawn's waistline on dorian.
he could have been Mr. O! :-X
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one problem: dorian looked better in those pics than he did on stage that year..
and look what happens when his best ever gets compared to Ronnie LOL
que the guy excuses!
::)
AXA used to excuse the photos were legendary, maybe but when they are used to validate your arguement about being the best bb ever it doesn't show much when we aren't treated to stage photos.
This is for AXA
Ronnie's weight
1998 = 252
1999 = 260
2000 = 260-265
2001 = 260
2002 = 242
2003 = 287
2004 = 294
2005 = 280
2006 = ???
Yates = 1993-1996 = 260
1992 = 244, 1997 = 270
ND in the end Ronnie said he would beat Dorian and Dorian admitted Ronnie would have beat him
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Ronnie says Dorian is better what's your excuse now?
ronnie also said he is natural
and why does everybody use those black and white photos of dorian? it's all about what you bring on game day
I hear jose canseco hit more home runs in batting practice than mark mcguire, i guess canseco was the better home run hitter ::)
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Platz's thighs just look so great with shawn's waistline on dorian.
he could have been Mr. O! :-X
I'm glad you admit he looks great ;)
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Dorian dominated amazing bodybuilders at their best, Ronnie shouldn't have won many of the olympia's he did
end of story.
This photo = End of story
Another photo that doesn't show how he looked onstage ::) ::)
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and why does everybody use those black and white photos of dorian? it's all about what you bring on game day
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let them use them
ronnie still wins the pregame show anyway:
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ronnie also said he is natural
and why does everybody use those black and white photos of dorian? it's all about what you bring on game day
I hear jose canseco hit more home runs in batting practice than mark mcguire, i guess canseco was the better home run hitter ::)
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ha hahahahah exactly
he also said
masterpiece..... the best bbq sauce they making
... hahahaha
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AXA used to excuse the photos were legendary, maybe but when they are used to validate your arguement about being the best bb ever it doesn't show much when we aren't treated to stage photos.
This is for AXA
Ronnie's weight
1998 = 252
1999 = 260
2000 = 260-265
2001 = 260
2002 = 242
2003 = 287
2004 = 294
2005 = 280
2006 = ???
Yates = 1993-1996 = 260
1992 = 244, 1997 = 270
ND in the end Ronnie said he would beat Dorian and Dorian admitted Ronnie would have beat him
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Dorian is 283 here, 1995, at a superior condition
Dorian always sacrificed muscle for conditioning, which I respect, he didn't come in, smooth, bloated and holding water.
as the years went by, Ronnie's gut got bigger and bigger, maybe that's why ;)
by the way he also claimed to be 297 in 2005, 2006 hahahahahahaha
283 in 1995
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Another photo that doesn't show how he looked onstage ::) ::)
actually its a photo that shows how he never looked period.
but if you take ronnie 2003's quads and stick them on dorian, along with shawns trim waist, they look great
lol
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ha hahahahah exactly
he also said
masterpiece..... the best bbq sauce they making
... hahahaha
Can we get an interpreter in here. Someone fluent in gibberish. lol