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Title: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: ASJChaotic on December 13, 2008, 02:24:59 PM
Kevin has the greatest triceps and shoulders of all time
his arms are bigger, shoulders are bigger, chest is bigger, legs are bigger
traps are bigger, and the waist is half the size of Dorian's, Kevin has better lines, obliques, abs
balance, proportion, no body can touch him in the size tricep pose.
ND you can't claim that Dorian wins

Judges, what's your socre



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Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: EL Mariachi on December 13, 2008, 02:29:41 PM
Dorian wins that pose, yes its true kevin looks better and has bigger triceps and delts. But how come dorian looks bigger then? Dorian looks more complete, is wider, better conditioned, kevin might have bigger arms but dorians still look bigger in that pic, dorian can pose the body better.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 13, 2008, 02:31:05 PM
Dorian wins that pose, yes its true kevin looks better and has bigger triceps and delts. But how come dorian looks bigger then? Dorian looks more complete, is wider, better conditioned, kevin might have bigger arms but dorians still look bigger in that pic, dorian can pose the body better.

Hey someone who gets it !!
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: The Ugly on December 13, 2008, 02:32:49 PM
Hey someone who gets it !!

But what if it were Ronnie Coleman against Yates, what then?

Just curious.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 13, 2008, 02:35:35 PM
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.



6. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles.
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.


Notice the use the word calf muscles twice?  ;) they do a ' head to foot examination ' which included forearms as well , now couple that with the fact all rounds are physique rounds , which means that they also look for who carries the most muscular bulk , who has better density , who is drier , who is better balanced , who has better proportion , posing & presentation , EVERYTHING is assessed at ONCE

while Kevin may meet part of the criteria better he doesn't meet ALL of it better which is exactly why he's being beat soundly.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: affeman on December 13, 2008, 02:37:43 PM
Both look great, but Kevin looses this one to Yates.

But he takes this one, hands down. ;D
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: ASJChaotic on December 13, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
Dorian wins that pose, yes its true kevin looks better and has bigger triceps and delts. But how come dorian looks bigger then? Dorian looks more complete, is wider, better conditioned, kevin might have bigger arms but dorians still look bigger in that pic, dorian can pose the body better.


are you or ND contest judges?
either one of you?
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 13, 2008, 02:38:57 PM
Both look great, but Kevin looses this one to Yates.

But he takes this one, hands down. ;D

Dorian would have still been bigger , harder , drier , better balanced and more complete , Dorian wins again
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 13, 2008, 02:40:21 PM

are you or ND contest judges?
either one of you?

Nope ! I was exactly like you. back in 1993 I was dumbfounded how Dorian Yates beat Flex Wheeler I couldn't understand how this could have happened , etc , etc , etc

then I learned how contests are judged and then I realized I was wrong like 99% of the people on this board .
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: EL Mariachi on December 13, 2008, 02:40:55 PM

are you or ND contest judges?
either one of you?

then dont ask questions, no ifbb judges post here.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: The Ugly on December 13, 2008, 02:43:09 PM
Dorian would have still been bigger , harder , drier , better balanced and more complete , Dorian wins again

What if universes collided and Yates went against Yates?









Hold on, though.











That's right, two Colemans, too.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: Viking11 on December 13, 2008, 09:42:25 PM
Dorian is bigger overall, his chest/back thickness is better than Kevins and his legs (everyone nowadays seems to forget legs include calves). Kevin has the better arms  and delts sizewise, but they lack density  and hardness when compared to Yates (maybe because he only trained half the year?). Dorians forearms are way better, too. Gotta give it to Yates.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: The GodFather on December 13, 2008, 10:14:32 PM
You do know BB Judges like a little cock sucking before shows Don't you.Now why ask them??? :-\
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: Relentless on December 13, 2008, 10:19:45 PM
Nope ! I was exactly like you. back in 1993 I was dumbfounded how Dorian Yates beat Flex Wheeler I couldn't understand how this could have happened , etc , etc , etc

then I learned how contests are judged and then I realized I was wrong like 99% of the people on this board .

You learned something you were not supposed to, ND.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: alnassak on December 13, 2008, 11:01:56 PM
Dorian would have still been bigger , harder , drier , better balanced and more complete , Dorian wins again

what was that..?  :D
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: Relentless on December 13, 2008, 11:03:11 PM
Dorian's 6 wins were a farce and a black eye for bodybuilding.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: alnassak on December 13, 2008, 11:09:16 PM
Dorian's 6 wins were a farce and a black eye for bodybuilding.

and Ronnie's too

he only deserved 99 and 03 the other are gifts just like Jay's 07  ::)

kevnin
Shawn
Flex
Victor Martinez
=
the real Olympians .
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: marcus on December 14, 2008, 12:12:05 AM
Kevin=esiclene. Dorian wins.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: 240 is Back on December 14, 2008, 12:16:28 AM
all debate aside, i'm glad they've somewhat eliminated the gifts and the dynasties.

The best bodybuilder winning is a good thing.  They can't just give it to the same guy every year and publish the photos they want anymore. 
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: TechnoViking on December 14, 2008, 12:21:03 AM
Dorian had the physique of granite and one that was trained 12 months out of the year....

Kevin's physique was pretty 6 month out of the year and the other 6, he was sucking cokc for crack...
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2008, 05:09:20 AM
Dorian's 6 wins were a farce and a black eye for bodybuilding.

ha ha ha talk about a blanket statement .
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 14, 2008, 05:29:50 AM
they're both short and very unnatural looking
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2008, 05:34:06 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251919.0;attach=293199;image)

this really shows how good yates was.. standing next to one of *thee* best of all time... he not only holds his own but dominates.
 
in his prime the guy really was something.


Shhhhhhh don't say that , some people get very sensitive when you type Dorian is better
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: Sam on December 14, 2008, 05:35:15 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251919.0;attach=293199;image)

this really shows how good yates was.. standing next to one of *thee* best of all time... he not only holds his own but dominates.
 
in his prime the guy really was something.


That is the truth
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: England_1 on December 14, 2008, 05:36:34 AM
It's too bad they cut that shot off. Dorian's legs really dwarf Kevin's overall.

Hopefully ND can post the 94 GP shot of dorian, kevin, and dillet hitting side tri
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2008, 05:52:08 AM
mmm.. I'm going to try my very hardest to give a fuck :)

 :)

great post.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2008, 05:52:46 AM
It's too bad they cut that shot off. Dorian's legs really dwarf Kevin's overall.

Hopefully ND can post the 94 GP shot of dorian, kevin, and dillet hitting side tri
;)
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 14, 2008, 06:25:03 AM
Kevin has the greatest triceps and shoulders of all time
his arms are bigger, shoulders are bigger, chest is bigger, legs are bigger
traps are bigger, and the waist is half the size of Dorian's, Kevin has better lines, obliques, abs
balance, proportion, no body can touch him in the size tricep pose.
ND you can't claim that Dorian wins

Judges, what's your score?



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If you'll recall, the judges of the 1995 Mr. Olympia awarded the pose to Dorian.  Does that not adequately answer the question?  It should.
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: gracie bjj on December 14, 2008, 06:33:08 AM
levrone was a another lazy ass,if he wouldve bared down and trained all year he would have beat everyone imo,a sandow or 2 was there for the takin for him and he pissed them away
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 14, 2008, 06:35:12 AM
levrone was a another lazy ass,if he wouldve bared down and trained all year he would have beat everyone imo,a sandow or 2 was there for the takin for him and he pissed them away

Someone else said that he was a part time bodybuilder who cared more about playing Rock Star than being Mr Olympia
Title: Re: any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose
Post by: England_1 on December 14, 2008, 06:42:51 AM
Someone chop Dorian and Kevin's legs off this shot and put them side by side.

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