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Title: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Tre on December 15, 2008, 05:35:40 PM
Got a guy - let's call him Bob - who has no job, no car, no education, and not much else.  He's 21, has no direction, and he lives in the home of his girlfriend's mom.  The girlfriend has a job.  He says he helps out around the house by 'driving the girlfriend to work'.

For a handful of odd jobs, he has been paid $400 ($100 each for jobs that took 2-3 hours).  Each time, I told him that he was being overpaid, because I wanted him to kick a portion down to his girlfriend's mom for rent.  I don't know if he did - I left that ball in his court.

I needed some labor for tomorrow and invited him to work.  He said 'yes' and then wrote back to say his buddy might want to come and asked what they pay would be.  I told him $50/person and then he wrote back to say that he couldn't make it 'for $50'.   

Needless to say, I don't think I'll have any work for him in the future. 

It gets better.  He contacted me a short time ago to let him know if anything changes. 

Unreal.

Personally, I feel I'm doing the right thing by not using him again. 

But here is the moral dilemma: He's obviously not getting any 'man training' in his current situation and he didn't get it growing up.  By having given him work in the recent past, do I now have any obligation to teach him some common sense?  Or should I allow him to figure out on his own why he let such an easy gig get away?

Speak on it, GetBig. 
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: The Master on December 15, 2008, 05:41:01 PM
Got a guy - let's call him Bob - who has no job, no car, no education, and not much else.  He's 21, has no direction, and he lives in the home of his girlfriend's mom.  The girlfriend has a job.  He says he helps out around the house by 'driving the girlfriend to work'.

For a handful of odd jobs, he has been paid $400 ($100 each for jobs that took 2-3 hours).  Each time, I told him that he was being overpaid, because I wanted him to kick a portion down to his girlfriend's mom for rent.  I don't know if he did - I left that ball in his court.

I needed some labor for tomorrow and invited him to work.  He said 'yes' and then wrote back to say his buddy might want to come and asked what they pay would be.  I told him $50/person and then he wrote back to say that he couldn't make it 'for $50'.   

Needless to say, I don't think I'll have any work for him in the future. 

It gets better.  He contacted me a short time ago to let him know if anything changes. 

Unreal.

Personally, I feel I'm doing the right thing by not using him again. 

But here is the moral dilemma: He's obviously not getting any 'man training' in his current situation and he didn't get it growing up.  By having given him work in the recent past, do I now have any obligation to teach him some common sense?  Or should I allow him to figure out on his own why he let such an easy gig get away?

Speak on it, GetBig. 

Trying to force in some "man training" for such a kid is most likely a waste of time. In his current state of male maturity, he will most likely reject your efforts.

The only real way such snot-kids grows into mature men is when they really meets the challenges that forces them to grow some character. That will probably only happen when life really turns its ugly side on him, and that is usually a result of his own bad choices.

Your efforts of handing him a "free lunch" or any "lessons" is most likely a waste of time, it's like trying to shoot a tank with a sling shot. Guys like this needs to really grow some character by having their entire lives turned upside down.

Conclusion: You should simply use this kid if it is cost-efficient for you. Your other efforts = fruitless.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2008, 05:41:31 PM
Let him figure it out...in Prison, because that is where he will be. Or thru the needle.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2008, 05:42:54 PM
You should explain your desire to help to the girlfriend.

She'll see the power of a man with both compassion, and a fcking job, and you can probably get some side dish action for $25 per visit.

Just sayin.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: johnnynoname on December 15, 2008, 05:43:02 PM
i will never have this problem

.....I pull out
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 15, 2008, 05:55:55 PM

But here is the moral dilemma: He's obviously not getting any 'man training' in his current situation and he didn't get it growing up.  By having given him work in the recent past, do I now have any obligation to teach him some common sense?  Or should I allow him to figure out on his own why he let such an easy gig get away?
Already answered it yourself.  :)
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Jizzacked on December 15, 2008, 05:59:53 PM
if you are seriously concerned for him, I think the best thing to do would be to talk to him (not through the computer) and tell him just what you said.  that he needs to get his shit together and that paying him that much was a FAVOR, one that he saw fit to take advantage of.  

if you aren't going to be using him for help anymore, tell him that and exactly why that is the case.  if he has any common sense, he will feel embarrassed for his bitch like behavior.  maybe he is honestly stupid enough to not see your point of view.. he is a kid and is being spoon fed.  or, maybe he is just an opportunist and tries to take advantage of everyone like he does with his gf.

that is what I would probably do..
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Oldschool Flip on December 15, 2008, 07:23:30 PM
Let him know that street laborers will do it for less and just a good a job!
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: cheftim on December 15, 2008, 08:15:56 PM
Got a guy - let's call him Bob - who has no job, no car, no education, and not much else.  He's 21, has no direction, and he lives in the home of his girlfriend's mom.  The girlfriend has a job.  He says he helps out around the house by 'driving the girlfriend to work'.

For a handful of odd jobs, he has been paid $400 ($100 each for jobs that took 2-3 hours).  Each time, I told him that he was being overpaid, because I wanted him to kick a portion down to his girlfriend's mom for rent.  I don't know if he did - I left that ball in his court.

I needed some labor for tomorrow and invited him to work.  He said 'yes' and then wrote back to say his buddy might want to come and asked what they pay would be.  I told him $50/person and then he wrote back to say that he couldn't make it 'for $50'.   

Needless to say, I don't think I'll have any work for him in the future. 

It gets better.  He contacted me a short time ago to let him know if anything changes. 

Unreal.

Personally, I feel I'm doing the right thing by not using him again. 

But here is the moral dilemma: He's obviously not getting any 'man training' in his current situation and he didn't get it growing up.  By having given him work in the recent past, do I now have any obligation to teach him some common sense?  Or should I allow him to figure out on his own why he let such an easy gig get away?

Speak on it, GetBig. 
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Your heart is in the right place my man.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: nycbull on December 15, 2008, 08:47:25 PM
i'd like to hear more about your man training course load.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: HDPhysiques on December 15, 2008, 09:07:12 PM
Got a guy - let's call him Bob - who has no job, no car, no education, and not much else.  He's 21, has no direction, and he lives in the home of his girlfriend's mom.  The girlfriend has a job.  He says he helps out around the house by 'driving the girlfriend to work'.

For a handful of odd jobs, he has been paid $400 ($100 each for jobs that took 2-3 hours).  Each time, I told him that he was being overpaid, because I wanted him to kick a portion down to his girlfriend's mom for rent.  I don't know if he did - I left that ball in his court.

I needed some labor for tomorrow and invited him to work.  He said 'yes' and then wrote back to say his buddy might want to come and asked what they pay would be.  I told him $50/person and then he wrote back to say that he couldn't make it 'for $50'.   

Needless to say, I don't think I'll have any work for him in the future. 

It gets better.  He contacted me a short time ago to let him know if anything changes. 

Unreal.

Personally, I feel I'm doing the right thing by not using him again. 

But here is the moral dilemma: He's obviously not getting any 'man training' in his current situation and he didn't get it growing up.  By having given him work in the recent past, do I now have any obligation to teach him some common sense?  Or should I allow him to figure out on his own why he let such an easy gig get away?

Speak on it, GetBig. 

GetBig doesn't care about wrestling jobbers, Tre'
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: 250goal on December 15, 2008, 09:09:03 PM
Kids (under 21) have no direction in general.  Sitting on the couch playing video games and posting on forums acting like tough little girls is all they are good for.

The Military or a good ass kicking is when they need in life.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Rami on December 15, 2008, 10:01:12 PM
What was the problem though?
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: flagadajones on December 15, 2008, 10:54:03 PM
Got a guy - let's call him Bob - who has no job, no car, no education, and not much else.  He's 21, has no direction, and he lives in the home of his girlfriend's mom.  The girlfriend has a job.  He says he helps out around the house by 'driving the girlfriend to work'.

For a handful of odd jobs, he has been paid $400 ($100 each for jobs that took 2-3 hours).  Each time, I told him that he was being overpaid, because I wanted him to kick a portion down to his girlfriend's mom for rent.  I don't know if he did - I left that ball in his court.

I needed some labor for tomorrow and invited him to work.  He said 'yes' and then wrote back to say his buddy might want to come and asked what they pay would be.  I told him $50/person and then he wrote back to say that he couldn't make it 'for $50'.   

Needless to say, I don't think I'll have any work for him in the future. 

It gets better.  He contacted me a short time ago to let him know if anything changes. 

Unreal.

Personally, I feel I'm doing the right thing by not using him again. 

But here is the moral dilemma: He's obviously not getting any 'man training' in his current situation and he didn't get it growing up.  By having given him work in the recent past, do I now have any obligation to teach him some common sense?  Or should I allow him to figure out on his own why he let such an easy gig get away?

Speak on it, GetBig. 

i bet he didnt have a father?

the problem with men who didnt have a father, is that they re basically toast, cause they cant replace what they never had.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 15, 2008, 10:55:59 PM
You should explain your desire to help to the girlfriend.

She'll see the power of a man with both compassion, and a fcking job, and you can probably get some side dish action for $25 per visit.

Just sayin.

Excellent advice IMO
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 15, 2008, 10:56:37 PM
teach him G4P

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Tre on December 17, 2008, 01:16:48 AM

Some sage counsel here, guys.  Thanks for that.

Yeah, kid grew up mostly without a father, which is why there's that part of me that wants to tell him where he screwed up. 

At the same time, though, natural selection is the key here.  If he's fundamentally flawed, then nothing I do or say will change that.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 17, 2008, 04:45:21 AM
Buy him some posing trunks and set him free...that's all you can do.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: QuakerOats on December 17, 2008, 04:47:28 AM
Got a guy - let's call him Bob - who has no job, no car, no education, and not much else.  He's 21, has no direction, and he lives in the home of his girlfriend's mom.  The girlfriend has a job.  He says he helps out around the house by 'driving the girlfriend to work'.

For a handful of odd jobs, he has been paid $400 ($100 each for jobs that took 2-3 hours).  Each time, I told him that he was being overpaid, because I wanted him to kick a portion down to his girlfriend's mom for rent.  I don't know if he did - I left that ball in his court.

I needed some labor for tomorrow and invited him to work.  He said 'yes' and then wrote back to say his buddy might want to come and asked what they pay would be.  I told him $50/person and then he wrote back to say that he couldn't make it 'for $50'.   

Needless to say, I don't think I'll have any work for him in the future. 

It gets better.  He contacted me a short time ago to let him know if anything changes. 

Unreal.

Personally, I feel I'm doing the right thing by not using him again. 

But here is the moral dilemma: He's obviously not getting any 'man training' in his current situation and he didn't get it growing up.  By having given him work in the recent past, do I now have any obligation to teach him some common sense?  Or should I allow him to figure out on his own why he let such an easy gig get away?

Speak on it, GetBig. 
is he black?
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 17, 2008, 04:52:53 AM
Impossible Quake...notice in the second sentence it says "he lives in the home..."  Everybody knows black guys don't "live" anywhere....they "stay" somewhere.   

Question: Where do you live?
Black guy:  I stay over at ole girls house...
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Tre on December 17, 2008, 05:18:49 AM
is he black?

No, this is a white kid. 

Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 17, 2008, 05:34:09 AM
No, this is a white kid. 



See.  Read my above.  I knew it.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 17, 2008, 05:49:09 AM
Got a guy - let's call him Bob - who has no job, no car, no education, and not much else.  He's 21, has no direction, and he lives in the home of his girlfriend's mom.  The girlfriend has a job.  He says he helps out around the house by 'driving the girlfriend to work'.

For a handful of odd jobs, he has been paid $400 ($100 each for jobs that took 2-3 hours).  Each time, I told him that he was being overpaid, because I wanted him to kick a portion down to his girlfriend's mom for rent.  I don't know if he did - I left that ball in his court.

I needed some labor for tomorrow and invited him to work.  He said 'yes' and then wrote back to say his buddy might want to come and asked what they pay would be.  I told him $50/person and then he wrote back to say that he couldn't make it 'for $50'.   

Needless to say, I don't think I'll have any work for him in the future. 

It gets better.  He contacted me a short time ago to let him know if anything changes. 

Unreal.

Personally, I feel I'm doing the right thing by not using him again. 

But here is the moral dilemma: He's obviously not getting any 'man training' in his current situation and he didn't get it growing up.  By having given him work in the recent past, do I now have any obligation to teach him some common sense?  Or should I allow him to figure out on his own why he let such an easy gig get away?

Speak on it, GetBig. 
find a more rewarding charity
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: CalvinH on December 17, 2008, 06:45:36 AM
Got a guy - let's call him Bob - who has no job, no car, no education, and not much else.  He's 21, has no direction, and he lives in the home of his girlfriend's mom.  The girlfriend has a job.  He says he helps out around the house by 'driving the girlfriend to work'.

For a handful of odd jobs, he has been paid $400 ($100 each for jobs that took 2-3 hours).  Each time, I told him that he was being overpaid, because I wanted him to kick a portion down to his girlfriend's mom for rent.  I don't know if he did - I left that ball in his court.

I needed some labor for tomorrow and invited him to work.  He said 'yes' and then wrote back to say his buddy might want to come and asked what they pay would be.  I told him $50/person and then he wrote back to say that he couldn't make it 'for $50'.   

Needless to say, I don't think I'll have any work for him in the future. 

It gets better.  He contacted me a short time ago to let him know if anything changes. 

Unreal.

Personally, I feel I'm doing the right thing by not using him again. 

But here is the moral dilemma: He's obviously not getting any 'man training' in his current situation and he didn't get it growing up.  By having given him work in the recent past, do I now have any obligation to teach him some common sense?  Or should I allow him to figure out on his own why he let such an easy gig get away?

Speak on it, GetBig. 





Send him to train with moosejay.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: mass 04 on December 17, 2008, 07:03:04 AM




Send him to train with moosejay.
hahahaahah ;D
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 17, 2008, 07:11:51 AM
hilarious.   



You know what I'm sayin'....I'm just sayin'... 8)
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: TechnoViking on December 17, 2008, 07:18:39 AM
Some sage counsel here, guys.  Thanks for that.

Yeah, kid grew up mostly without a father, which is why there's that part of me that wants to tell him where he screwed up. 

At the same time, though, natural selection is the key here.  If he's fundamentally flawed, then nothing I do or say will change that.

I think this says it all...Business is business...If you want to help the kid out...Don't do it on a business level...

Might I suggest you send him the book "A new earth" by Eckhart Tolle...
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: George Whorewell on December 17, 2008, 07:20:59 AM
smack him around a little and then give the girlfriend financial assistance in the form of 10% off bed/ bath and beyond cupons. That will force him to acknowledge his failings as a man.
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Tre on May 02, 2009, 02:27:30 PM

Update.  Just got this email a few days ago:

hey.whats up tre? I was wondering if you needed me to do any work soon? my girl and I just broke up and I gotta move out... so I need to make some $$... hope to hear back from you soon.. thank you.

I bet $25/hour sure seems like a great gig now.

Schadenfreude, perhaps, but I'm always happy to see karma do its thing.

I haven't made a decision yet, but I'm leaning towards 'caint do nothin for ya, man'. 
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Spike on May 02, 2009, 03:17:55 PM
I dont get it.....he;s not a man cause he doesnt have a job at 21??


so I guess if the fck did the SAME EXACT thing and worked at a cell phone kiosk then shit would be cool cause he pays rent???


what is the problem...he gets overpaid for odd jobs???  or the fact that you seem to find him lazy in your sense cause he doesnt live the 'dream' of bodybuilding??
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Tre on May 02, 2009, 03:51:16 PM
I dont get it.....he;s not a man cause he doesnt have a job at 21??


so I guess if the fck did the SAME EXACT thing and worked at a cell phone kiosk then shit would be cool cause he pays rent???


what is the problem...he gets overpaid for odd jobs???  or the fact that you seem to find him lazy in your sense cause he doesnt live the 'dream' of bodybuilding??

This kid is *far* from being a bodybuilder.  He's just your stereotypical slacker who wants something for nothing.  I don't know why his girl broke up with him, but the fact that he did fuck all to earn a living probably factored into it.

What is it with women and broke guys?  I just don't see the appeal. 
 

Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Spike on May 02, 2009, 03:56:53 PM
I get it now.....my brother is the perfect example

24yr old male was making 40k/yr with benefits my dad put him in this sweetass marketing job for a company he worked with

kid was there 1yr then starts writing emails to my mom about how his boss is ' a bitch ' and ' his job sucked, joining the army, etc. '

well IT saw the emails and they fired his ass in jan 09.....fcks been living off my parents for 6months paying his rent, car payment, cable bill so he can fckn play xbox at 21gigs! -- they drop 1500/month on expenses for that fck alone, he didnt save shit or file for unemployment....all he talks about on the phone is fuckn video games and working out, he;s moving back in with them in a month after he gets his liscense back in this state for a DUI

LAZY FCK is a drag on the family now
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 02, 2009, 03:58:34 PM
teach him G4P


What do you think the $100 was for?   ;D
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: Tre on May 02, 2009, 04:21:47 PM

What do you think the $100 was for?   ;D

They can easily shoot 4 scenes in 4 hours. 
Title: Re: Laying down the law - who raises these goddamn kids?
Post by: drkaje on May 02, 2009, 04:26:50 PM
Impossible Quake...notice in the second sentence it says "he lives in the home..."  Everybody knows black guys don't "live" anywhere....they "stay" somewhere.   

Question: Where do you live?
Black guy:  I stay over at ole girls house...

That's fucking funny!!!