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Obama said today that he's frustrated that Fitzgerald has asked him to wait until next week to answer these questions.
Then he said that next week, he'll be releasing all the info and all of the quesitons will be answered.
Does he release incriminating info on Monday afternoon, knowing that it'll go mostly unnoticed since it's the week of Christmas Eve/ christmas?
Or, does he completely fvcking pwn all the detractors, delivering evidence he/Rahm are innocent, as Bloggo's recording suggested?
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I think he pwns all... Time will tell.
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I think he pwns all... Time will tell.
Just like he pwned his house very legally...with the help of Rezco?
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Just like he pwned his house very legally...with the help of Rezco?
You got proof about that somewhere?
I see a lot of allegations, and zero proof.
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You got proof about that somewhere?
I see a lot of allegations, and zero proof.
You also admitted to see nothing wrong with Obama getting secret anonymous donations....so I won't bother with your opinion...it doesn't worth much.
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You got proof about that somewhere?
I see a lot of allegations, and zero proof.
Rezko sold him his home and the adjacent lot at a discount of 300K.
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You also admitted to see nothing wrong with Obama getting secret anonymous donations....so I won't bother with your opinion...it doesn't worth much.
The point behind anonymous is that they are anonymous and you have no business telling anyone what they can and can't do with their money... Why do you want to be into everyone else's business so badly?
Rezko sold him his home and the adjacent lot at a discount of 300K.
So it's illegal to sell things at a discount now?
You gonna start a war on Wal-Mart?
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I think he pwns all... Time will tell.
He doesn't pwn nicotine.
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Rezko sold him his home and the adjacent lot at a discount of 300K.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252770.0
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The point behind anonymous is that they are anonymous and you have no business telling anyone what they can and can't do with their money... Why do you want to be into everyone else's business so badly?
So it's illegal to sell things at a discount now?
You gonna start a war on Wal-Mart?
Political figures aren't allowed to receive anonymous donations, there are laws against it for a reason, its a bribe.
Just like the discount he got from Rezco.
Let me guess....you're still waiting for the mailman to give you the "we won" package right? A little hint, Obama will only fuck you up more, we all lost.
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Political figures aren't allowed to receive anonymous donations, there are laws against it for a reason, its a bribe.
Just like the discount he got from Rezco.
Let me guess....you're still waiting for the mailman to give you the "we won" package right? A little hint, Obama will only fuck you up more, we all lost.
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Political figures aren't allowed to receive anonymous donations, there are laws against it for a reason, its a bribe.
Just like the discount he got from Rezco.
Let me guess....you're still waiting for the mailman to give you the "we won" package right? A little hint, Obama will only fuck you up more, we all lost.
What else does your magic crystal ball show?
You obviously see the future. ::)
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What else does your magic crystal ball show?
You obviously see the future. ::)
I see you being owned by me again and showing what a moron you are for believing that people just give politicians money for fun ::)
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I see you being owned by me again and showing what a moron you are for believing that people just give politicians money for fun ::)
Madoff bought some very cheap prostitutes in the democrat party.
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I see you being owned by me again and showing what a moron you are for believing that people just give politicians money for fun ::)
People give politicians because they believe in their message... That's why you liked Sarah Palin remember?
You loved how she couldn't answer a question posed to her in a debate and you thought she was a genius. You loved her message.
What I see in you is a bitter person who can't believe a black man won the Presidency... You're going to hate everything about the guy, even when he got one of your own to deliver his invocation... I'm sure Warren paid him for it right?
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People give politicians because they believe in their message... That's why you liked Sarah Palin remember?
You loved how she couldn't answer a question posed to her in a debate and you thought she was a genius. You loved her message.
What I see in you is a bitter person who can't believe a black man won the Presidency... You're going to hate everything about the guy, even when he got one of your own to deliver his invocation... I'm sure Warren paid him for it right?
LOL,here we go again, pulling the race card.
It seems to me that Obama wouldn't have a chance to be elected if he was white, it seems people voted for him as some kind of twisted reverse discrimination lol.
Anyway, back to the point since I actually have one not like you, in your pink world people give donations to political favors and expect nothing back....but in my reality the facts are way different.
BTW regarding Rezco, Obama denounced him (after Rezco got arrested,although he formally admitted to being a close friend of his) like he did to just about everyone he ever knew, I think that Obama is actually white he just look black because he got so many black stains on himself from past associations.
I wonder if Bush just happen to receive a billion dollar in donations from some CEO of an oil company or something of that sorts....I'm sure you would just say hey...he believe in the cause ::)
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LOL,here we go again, pulling the race card.
It seems to me that Obama wouldn't have a chance to be elected if he was white, it seems people voted for him as some kind of twisted reverse discrimination lol.
Anyway, back to the point since I actually have one not like you, in your pink world people give donations to political favors and expect nothing back....but in my reality the facts are way different.
BTW regarding Rezco, Obama denounced him (after Rezco got arrested,although he formally admitted to being a close friend of his) like he did to just about everyone he ever knew, I think that Obama is actually white he just look black because he got so many black stains on himself from past associations.
I wonder if Bush just happen to receive a billion dollar in donations from some CEO of an oil company or something of that sorts....I'm sure you would just say hey...he believe in the cause ::)
I believe Bush received many donations from CEOs for oil companies... I expect they do believe in the cause... The cause of oil profits.
I don't like it, but I'm not running around saying it's illegal, because it's not.
They have the same agenda.
Now... How about you tell me where Paulson, Bush's guy... put that money he just gave out? He said he didn't have to tell anyone... but that was Tax payer money, not a private donation.
Instead of worrying about who donated to Obama... How about you ask where your money went to... The money YOU paid in taxes... Not a donation that someone you don't have any business worrying about made.
My point is simple... Who I give my money to is MY business... not yours.
Apparently though, you still don't seem to get that. Very simple.
My money... None of your business.
Your money... None of my business.
Get it?
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I believe Bush received many donations from CEOs for oil companies... I expect they do believe in the cause... The cause of oil profits.
I don't like it, but I'm not running around saying it's illegal, because it's not.
They have the same agenda.
Now... How about you tell me where Paulson, Bush's guy... put that money he just gave out? He said he didn't have to tell anyone... but that was Tax payer money, not a private donation.
Instead of worrying about who donated to Obama... How about you ask where your money went to... The money YOU paid in taxes... Not a donation that someone you don't have any business worrying about made.
My point is simple... Who I give my money to is MY business... not yours.
Apparently though, you still don't seem to get that. Very simple.
My money... None of your business.
Your money... None of my business.
Get it?
I won't waste more of my time on such an idiot as you, failing to see this point shows how blind you can be thus reduces all your opinions to nothing.
Have fun in your imaginary world.
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Tu, not a dime of IFBBWannabe's tax money got given out by Paulson.
IFBBWannabe isn't American, ...he's a Euro with a thread bare grasp on the English language.
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I won't waste more of my time on such an idiot as you, failing to see this point shows how blind you can be thus reduces all your opinions to nothing.
Have fun in your imaginary world.
Tu, not a dime of IFBBWannabe's tax money got given out by Paulson.
IFBBWannabe isn't American, ...he's a Euro with a thread bare grasp on the English language.
You mean this clown is busy telling me, a tax paying American how my donations should be spent?
Hahaha... Now THAT is laughable.
He thinks I'm an idiot... I guess I should be thankful. Most people I know in the world think it's THEIR money and they can spend it however THEY want to.
How you fail to grasp the concept of "It's none of your business" is what is truly laughable.
Although, I guess since he doesn't pay taxes in the US, or anywhere in North America, but feels his opinion is somehow valid is pretty much his MO.
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You mean this clown is busy telling me, a tax paying American how my donations should be spent?
Hahaha... Now THAT is laughable.
He thinks I'm an idiot... I guess I should be thankful. Most people I know in the world think it's THEIR money and they can spend it however THEY want to.
How you fail to grasp the concept of "It's none of your business" is what is truly laughable.
Although, I guess since he doesn't pay taxes in the US, or anywhere in North America, but feels his opinion is somehow valid is pretty much his MO.
Your money given to a political figure with powers over you! The people voted him and gave him powers = Other people business since he can affect them yet he is now inclined to help you.
There is a reason why there are LAWS against it.
If a judge would receive money everyone will scream, no difference, just differrent types of public powers.
You are a fucking blind idiot.
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Apart from the unspecified 'hope, 'change' and 'believe', few have any idea what Obama's policies will be. Public perception comes from having an 'image' of him, or a self-projection, not the fine print because Obama doesn't do fine print until the votes are cast and even then he will hide it in his windbag words.
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Your money given to a political figure with powers over you! The people voted him and gave him powers = Other people business since he can affect them yet he is now inclined to help you.
There is a reason why there are LAWS against it.
If a judge would receive money everyone will scream, no difference, just differrent types of public powers.
You are a fucking blind idiot.
You don't think people give judges money? Really?
I'm sure I can go give my Uncle, who happens to be a judge money and no one says anything... If I get put on his docket, then he will excuse himself... Pretty simple.
And again, if I give a judge money, and it's anonymous, he doesn't know it came from me... so there is no conflict of interests... He doesn't know I gave it to him, so there is no expectation of repayment in any way.
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You don't think people give judges money? Really?
I'm sure I can go give my Uncle, who happens to be a judge money and no one says anything... If I get put on his docket, then he will excuse himself... Pretty simple.
And again, if I give a judge money, and it's anonymous, he doesn't know it came from me... so there is no conflict of interests... He doesn't know I gave it to him, so there is no expectation of repayment in any way.
1.Sure its 100% "anonymous".
2.Sure he will excuse himself ::).
3.So you say Obama should excuse himself from being president? Since he deals with issues that surely affect everyone including the people who "anonymously" donated to him.... ::)
4.Regarding your supposed uncle, you have prior connections and you might have a legitimate reason for giving him money,even then like you have said he should excuse himself. So giving money to someone you don't know, who just happen to have control of budgets/contracts/whatever...ohh please... ::)
Public figure means anything he does,especially in regards to who give him money is EVERYONE business, if it wasn't they would have been paid less. One of the reasons some public officials get pretty good salaries is to help them resist bribes...just in case you didn't know,or at least denied it.
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1.Sure its 100% "anonymous".
2.Sure he will excuse himself ::).
3.So you say Obama should excuse himself from being president? Since he deals with issues that surely affect everyone including the people who "anonymously" donated to him.... ::)
4.Regarding your supposed uncle, you have prior connections and you might have a legitimate reason for giving him money,even then like you have said he should excuse himself. So giving money to someone you don't know, who just happen to have control of budgets/contracts/whatever...ohh please... ::)
Public figure means anything he does,especially in regards to who give him money is EVERYONE business, if it wasn't they would have been paid less. One of the reasons some public officials get pretty good salaries is to help them resist bribes...just in case you didn't know,or at least denied it.
Are you kidding?
Public officials do not make "pretty good salaries". If you look at the average salary of CEOs and other executives, the office of the Presidency doesn't make jack.
You filter that down to Local public offices and it's even worse really.
Now... Do you have any proof it's not anonymous?
You said yourself they were anonymous donations, so were they? Or were they not anonymous?
Which is it?
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Are you kidding?
Public officials do not make "pretty good salaries". If you look at the average salary of CEOs and other executives, the office of the Presidency doesn't make jack.
You filter that down to Local public offices and it's even worse really.
Now... Do you have any proof it's not anonymous?
You said yourself they were anonymous donations, so were they? Or were they not anonymous?
Which is it?
The fact that people make more in the private sector doesn't mean that the public sector isn't enough, Obama got over 100K$ per year as a sentor, thats plenty for someone who doesn't do much and get tons of privileges.
Just because the private sector is a whore house (one of the reasons for this crisis) doesn't mean shit.
Can you prove the donations are anonymous? There is a reason why there is a limit to how much you can donate and that it need to be reported. Once its "anonymous" no one knows what is really happening and thats isn't something any of us wants with our public officials.
Being official anonymous but knowing who made them behind the scenes really burst your little pink bubble.
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The fact that people make more in the private sector doesn't mean that the public sector isn't enough, Obama got over 100K$ per year as a sentor, thats plenty for someone who doesn't do much and get tons of privileges.
Just because the private sector is a whore house (one of the reasons for this crisis) doesn't mean shit.
Can you prove the donations are anonymous? There is a reason why there is a limit to how much you can donate and that it need to be reported. Once its "anonymous" no one knows what is really happening and thats isn't something any of us wants with our public officials.
Being official anonymous but knowing who made them behind the scenes really burst your little pink bubble.
Again, you haven't proven he knows who donated anything... you're just making some conspiracy theory.
You really don't have any proof of anything, but you like to sound like you do.
Shameful.
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Again, you haven't proven he knows who donated anything... you're just making some conspiracy theory.
You really don't have any proof of anything, but you like to sound like you do.
Shameful.
Well luckily it doesn't work that way, the law require all donations to be registered to specific people in order to prevent these things and anything anonymous is illegal and need to be clarified.
I guess you missed that little part...but the FEC didn't!
Not to mention that on some things it's better to be extra cautious and assume that all is wrong and need to be proved right than the other way around.
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Well luckily it doesn't work that way, the law require all donations to be registered to specific people in order to prevent these things and anything anonymous is illegal and need to be clarified.
I guess you missed that little part...but the FEC didn't!
Not to mention that on some things it's better to be extra cautious and assume that all is wrong and need to be proved right than the other way around.
So Obama's found guilty of some violation?
When did this happen?
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So Obama's found guilty of some violation?
When did this happen?
The FEC is investigating the huge amount of suspicious donations he got.
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The FEC is investigating the huge amount of suspicious donations he got.
You let me know when he gets charged with a crime... I'm sure you'll be on top of it.
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You let me know when he gets charged with a crime... I'm sure you'll be on top of it.
You're a sore loser.
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You're a sore loser.
I'm afraid you haven't proven anything... How can I lose when you've not even begun to play.
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I'm afraid you haven't proven anything... How can I lose when you've not even begun to play.
Your denial of facts is truly frightening.
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Your denial of facts is truly frightening.
You have no shown a single "fact", except in your own mind.
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You have no shown a single "fact", except in your own mind.
FEC rules and regulations seem like a negligible thing to you :-\
In case you missed it, the point wasn't to prove Obama was behind all of that, because I'm sure he made it complicated enough and he personally will never fall for it.
The debate was over anonymous donations to political figures, something that should be abolished and I have reality and FEC laws to support me while all you have is some notion about how people shouldn't care you bribe government officials ::)
But I guess it's too complex for you to follow :-\
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FEC rules and regulations seem like a negligible thing to you :-\
In case you missed it, the point wasn't to prove Obama was behind all of that, because I'm sure he made it complicated enough and he personally will never fall for it.
The debate was over anonymous donations to political figures, something that should be abolished and I have reality and FEC laws to support me while all you have is some notion about how people shouldn't care you bribe government officials ::)
But I guess it's too complex for you to follow :-\
The simple fact is that you're sitting around saying someone did something illegal, yet no one is charging anyone with a crime.
The debate isn't really a debate because I have my opinion and you have yours... The second you have some proof of a crime, then you can talk to me about "fact".
Right now... The only fact, is that there has not been a crime, because if there was, someone would have been charged with one.
Apparently the whole innocent until proven guilty in a court of law is what's too complex... for you to understand... Then again, you're not from the US... so you probably don't get that premise of our laws.
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The simple fact is that you're sitting around saying someone did something illegal, yet no one is charging anyone with a crime.
The debate isn't really a debate because I have my opinion and you have yours... The second you have some proof of a crime, then you can talk to me about "fact".
Right now... The only fact, is that there has not been a crime, because if there was, someone would have been charged with one.
Apparently the whole innocent until proven guilty in a court of law is what's too complex... for you to understand... Then again, you're not from the US... so you probably don't get that premise of our laws.
It's not my opinion it a law...but I guess that means nothing to a liberal...your mind is free of limitations ::)
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It's not my opinion it a law...but I guess that means nothing to a liberal...your mind is free of limitations ::)
Laws are not always right... Again, if the law was broken, where is the charge?
Also, I'm not a liberal... but if you feel you have to label me as one to make yourself feel better... feel free.
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Laws are not always right... Again, if the law was broken, where is the charge?
Also, I'm not a liberal... but if you feel you have to label me as one to make yourself feel better... feel free.
Sure that's such a bad law ::)
Bribes should be legal, now I see the light ::)
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Sure that's such a bad law ::)
Bribes should be legal, now I see the light ::)
The fact you can't see my rational behind how something that is anonymous can't be a bribe is absolutely ridiculous.
You are tired... I'll not respond to this again until you show me where someone is charged with a crime.... until then... Just sit there and suck it up.