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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Danimal77 on December 19, 2008, 04:59:27 PM
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Give me your list guys and not who WON 1st through 5th at the Olympia, but who YOU think what the 5 best in those years.
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1st Bertil
2nd Haney
3rd Gaspari
4th Mendenhall
5th Strydom
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1. Anja Langer
2. Penny Price
3. M. Selin
4. Donnia Oliviera
5. Gladys Portuguese.
As I've said in the past...the guys dont matter.
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1st Bertil
2nd Haney
3rd Gaspari
4th Mendenhall
5th Strydom
list is interesting but if we're talking pro then mendenhall is off list,haney ,gaspari,labrada,christian,demey.strydom great yes but inexplicably showed up at 88 or 89 mr o emaciated,comes back 91/92 wbf massive and deserving of title,some say 91 strydom would have pushed haney that yr,yates was still smaller than both ,harder but smaller.
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Haney is number 1. Simple as, no argument.
By the way, Gaspari is No 2
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Haney is number 1. Simple as, no argument.
By the way, Gaspari is No 2
Bertil was better.
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Bertil was better.
8 x O Says otherwise
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Bertil was better.
But was he even in the Olympia after 83? I think his 5th place finish kind of discouraged him. In fact he got so pissed off that years later, when his girlfriend told him that he wasn't even good enough to beat 160 pound guys like Makkawy, he snapped and shot her to death. Then when the girl's mother saw her daughter lying there, she screamed at Bertil, "Even Dickerson owned you, you stupid gorilla!" And as we all know, that's when he killed her as well and is still, to the best of my knowledge, in jail.
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Lee Haney
Mohammed Benaziza
Jeff King
Mohammad Makkawy
Lee Labrada
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1. Gladys Portuguese
2. Anja Langer
3. Penny Price
4. Tonya Knight
5. Lisa Lorio
Not a bad list you made, but I had to make some corrections. :)
Now, as far as the dudes...
1 Lee Haney
2 Lee Haney
3 Lee Haney
4 Lee Haney
5 Everybody else
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8 x O Says otherwise
1 Lee Haney
2 Lee Haney
3 Lee Haney
4 Lee Haney
5 Everybody else
Epic reliance on IFBB brainwashing. Haney had huge flaws. The rest never compared with torso, not even close. Bertil was better but the truth is Weider also wanted and still prefers an articule and polite spokesman as Mr. Olympia.
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Epic reliance on IFBB brainwashing. Haney had huge flaws.
;D Come on the Fox
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;D Come on the Fox
In reality Fox looks like the 8-time winner, just looking at the pics. Far better balanced physique, size everywhere, unlike Haney.
The main problem was Weider's desire for articule, polite representatives of the "sport". Fox didn't qualify, neither did Robinson or Oliva, Haney did.This is straight from the mouth of a former Olympian to me.
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ok :D
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ok :D
haha Haney's underwhelming even in your pic.
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Anyone have Fox's hands thrown above the head pose photo?
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haha Haney's underwhelming even in your pic.
HA HA Keep em coming. To suggest Fox was Greater Than Lee? Come on Pumpster, you know Bodybuilding more than That!
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This is the one.
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Haney is one of the most overrated guys of all time.
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Haney is one of the most overrated guys of all time.
You guys :D
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haha Haney's underwhelming even in your pic.
you are a moron
Have a nice weekend!
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haha Haney's underwhelming even in your pic.
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HA HA Keep em coming. To suggest Fox was Greater Than Lee? Come on Pumpster, you know Bodybuilding more than That!
I'm not the only one sayin it. Haney's blatant imbalances with the torso overwhelming everything else are also obvious when comparing them in good condition on video.
you are a moron
Have a nice weekend!
Funny, the actual proof (vs IFBB political decisions and sheep who believe it all) show you to be a nincompoop. ;)
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lol. He's imbalanced IMO. Great back and chest, poor arms, decent legs and average delts. I think Fox, Gaspari, and Labrada should have beaten him.
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lol. He's imbalanced IMO. Great back and chest, poor arms, decent legs and average delts. I think Fox, Gaspari, and Labrada should have beaten him.
hahaha i wouldn't even give him "decent legs" from most angles. The torso completely overwhelms the arms and legs. ;D
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hahaha i wouldn't even give him "decent legs". The torso completely overwhelms the arms and legs. ;D
I didn't want to ruin Sam's night. ;D
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I didn't want to ruin Sam's night. ;D
Your all heart :D
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In reality Fox looks like the 8-time winner, just looking at the pics. Far better balanced physique, size everywhere, unlike Haney.
The main problem was Weider's desire for articule, polite representatives of the "sport". Fox didn't qualify, neither did Robinson or Oliva, Haney did.This is straight from the mouth of a former Olympian to me.
Ever notice most Fox shots are from the front? now you know why
Is Haney imbalanced? yes ...is Fox ? YES.... Haney leaves Fox for dead in the front & rear latspreads , same for front double biceps ..and side chest ...fox is comparable in side triceps , beats Haney in the most muscular and that's it ..Lee has a better ab-thigh too , Haney wins front & rear standing relaxed and 1/4 turns
your selected shots of an offseason Fox and Haney prove nothing , all things considered Haney crushes him
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Ever notice most Fox shots are from the front? now you know why
Is Haney imbalanced? yes ...is Fox ? YES.... Haney leaves Fox for dead in the front & rear latspreads , same for front double biceps ..and side chest ...fox is comparable in side triceps , beats Haney in the most muscular and that's it ..Lee has a better ab-thigh too , Haney wins front & rear standing relaxed and 1/4 turns
your selected shots of an offseason Fox and Haney prove nothing , all things considered Haney crushes him
The voice of reason
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hahaha i wouldn't even give him "decent legs" from most angles. The torso completely overwhelms the arms and legs. ;D
83 Olympia not at his best first of all and hid legs for that time were more than acceptable
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Fox ain't beating Haney in ANY front double biceps
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Fox is narrow and has high lats , his front & rear biceps shots show this clearly
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lol. He's imbalanced IMO. Great back and chest, poor arms, decent legs and average delts. I think Fox, Gaspari, and Labrada should have beaten him.
your parents should have aborted you
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your parents should have aborted you
:-*
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your parents should have aborted you
Benny 2 pizzas wid da works.
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83 Olympia not at his best first of all and hid legs for that time were more than acceptable
At best he wins some poses, most he doesn't. Fox wins front or back double-bi easily; nothing compelling about Haney's front or back double-bi. FYI for those who don't know, the pose requires good arms. :o
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At best he wins some poses, most he doesn't. Fox wins front or back double-bi easily; nothing compelling about Haney's front or back double-bi. FYI for those who don't know, the pose requires good arms. :o
Haney easily wins both the frony and rear biceps shots . and FYI the pose also requires a back , clavicle width , size ..stop cherry picking what part of the judging criteria you think he wins while ignoring the rest ..Haney's 250 pounds crushes Fox 210 in any pose
backs are night & day , Haney has among the best , crushes Fox in width , thickness , depth and detail , Haney much better taper , when all factors are considered Fox doesn't come close to Haney
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Haney easily wins both the frony and rear biceps shots . and FYI the pose also requires a back , clavicle width , size ..stop cherry picking what part of the judging criteria you think he wins while ignoring the rest ..Haney's 250 pounds crushes Fox 210 in any pose
backs are night & day , Haney has among the best , crushes Fox in width , thickness , depth and detail , Haney much better taper , when all factors are considered Fox doesn't come close to Haney
hahahahaahahahaaaaaaaaaa, "Haney 250 and Fox 210", quit pulling shit out of your ass. ::)
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hahahahaahahahaaaaaaaaaa, "Haney 250 and Fox 210", quit pulling shit out of your ass. ::)
don't confuse the offseason and gym pics of Fox with what he brought to the stage ... when he dieted down he got small and see the averages weights for the 83 Olympia ..Haney was already 230 at his best 91 he was 250 ;)
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Benny 2 pizzas wid da works.
Nice try, but I ain't Italian, Slick. ;)
You, however, are most definitely stuck on stupid.
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don't confuse the offseason and gym pics of Fox with what he brought to the stage ... when he dieted down he got small and see the averages weights for the 83 Olympia ..Haney was already 230 at his best 91 he was 250 ;)
Bertil was only 210lbs @ the 83 O! unbealivable.
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By the way, Gaspari is No 2
QFT
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Makkaway, LeBrada, Jusup, all great competitors. Gaspari was a class act also.
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My fav Lee Haney shot.
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The voice of reason
LOL. Like a guy who participates in a 1,000 page thread has reason. Good one. ::) ;D
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Lee late 1980's.
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1 Haney
2 Gaspari
3 Strydom
4 DeMey
5 Labrada
Haney was miles ahead of everyone at the time.
Bertil was good for selling mags and sups, had DJ physique, great in tank-top in the gym, pre-show.
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Damn, Bertil was all arms. Not even close to Haney.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=253183.0;attach=294292;image)
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As ND says,Bertils weak point was his back,especially his rear lat spread.Granted,on this pic he`s not pulled the left side fully out,but he has on the right side.
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Is that Albert Beckles in the middle? He wins that shot hands down.
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Is that Albert Beckles in the middle? He wins that shot hands down.
Yep,and Johnny Fuller on the right,from the 82 NOC,the one when Makkawy arrived onstage on a camel.
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Further proof that Pumpster has no clue what he's talking about.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=253183.0;attach=294322;image)
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epic searching for hours to find weak pictures of someone, you can do that with ANY bodybuilder. ::)
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As ND says,Bertils weak point was his back,especially his rear lat spread.Granted,on this pic he`s not pulled the left side fully out,but he has on the right side.
that pic of bertil is horrible, what's it supposed to prove? his back looks narrow as hell, he has no hamstrings at all. Bertil never won anything major in the IFBB for the simple fact that his conditioning was never up to par, he had some gigantic bodyparts but he also had alot of weak bodyparts, ND wasn't that far off with his assesement plus bertil couldn't pose for jack shit, look at how he's hitting that fron double bi next to zane, he looks like a guy who never ever even tried to learn how to hit the shots right. haney had the same strong points as bertil as far as chest, back, shoulders and traps, bertil had better calves and arms. haney was ALWAYS in better condition and was a very, very good poser...he was also the biggest guy onstage 99% of the time in terms of height and weight and his waist was tiny.
top 5 from 84-89
haney
gaspari
labrada
christian
...I dunno, lots of guys could be in this list..demay, strydom, phil hill, beckles, robinson...I'll have to think about it.
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epic searching for hours to find weak pictures of someone, you can do that with ANY bodybuilder. ::)
ha ha ha ha something you've done with Yates time and time again , hypocrite
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epic searching for hours to find weak pictures of someone, you can do that with ANY bodybuilder. ::)
moron... bertil was all arms and chest... he didnt look too impressive in most mandatory poses...
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Lou Ferrigno....(1988)
The return of the Hulk tv movie made more headlines that year alone that the mr.O did the entire decade.
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moron... bertil was all arms and chest... he didnt look too impressive in most mandatory poses...
exactly , very impressive thickness in the pecs , delts , traps and arms , but everywhere else he suffered and his mandatories sucked for it.
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Lou Ferrigno....(1988)
The return of the Hulk tv movie made more headlines that year alone that the mr.O did the entire decade.
lol @ Ferrigno
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This is Bertil at his best,the 1980 WABBA Pro World,and even though his front lat spread looks decent,yet again its his rear lat spread that lets him down.He just didn`t know how to hit the poses and when you stand him side by side with the other greats thats when his weaknesses come through.
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If a contest were made up of mandatory poses that were variations of a most muscular,then Bertil would have won everything.
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This is Bertil at his best,the 1980 WABBA Pro World,and even though his front lat spread looks decent,yet again its his rear lat spread that lets him down.He just didn`t know how to hit the poses and when you stand him side by side with the other greats thats when his weaknesses come through.
Classic Dillet excuses (back and posing) trotted out. Meanwhile it's always left unmentioned that Bertil trounces Haney on virtually every other angle. ;)
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epic searching for hours to find weak pictures of someone, you can do that with ANY bodybuilder. ::)
haaha no kidding no life ND.
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Check out the width and taper on Tony Pearson.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=253183.0;attach=294322;image)
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Classic Dillet excuses (back and posing) trotted out. Meanwhile it's always left unmentioned that Bertil trounces Haney on virtually every other angle. ;)
classic pumpster makes blanket statements and can't provide a single shred of proof . and to correct your bullshit yet again ..it didn't go unmentioned how Haney destroys Fox in all poses except the most muscular and side triceps
Fox is narrow and small next to Haney show me competition shots of fox not offseason and gym shots
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That time (84-89) was clearly dominated by Lee Haney.....
Bertil Fox had his prime at the Mr. Olympia 1983 in Munich......but couldn`t match it later
so from 84-89 my top 3 favorites where Haney, Gaspary, Labrada (for top 5 maybe Beckles in 85, Makkawy also in 85, De Mey in 88, Mike Christian, "hard to decide"....)
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haaha no kidding no life ND.
How stupid can you be, i didn't even post the pic lmao you dummy and you're the king of posting slanted comparisons ...so stop projecting your own stupidity
Haney destroys Fox in the latspreads , front & rear biceps shots , ab-thigh and side chest , Haney's bigger , better conditioned and a better poser as usual you're wrong and proven wrong by me
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If a contest were made up of mandatory poses that were variations of a most muscular,then Bertil would have won everything.
And that's all they keep posting too lol power shots
Bertil appeals to people who like mass and mass alone , fox couldn't touch Haney
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But was he even in the Olympia after 83? I think his 5th place finish kind of discouraged him. In fact he got so pissed off that years later, when his girlfriend told him that he wasn't even good enough to beat 160 pound guys like Makkawy, he snapped and shot her to death. Then when the girl's mother saw her daughter lying there, she screamed at Bertil, "Even Dickerson owned you, you stupid gorilla!" And as we all know, that's when he killed her as well and is still, to the best of my knowledge, in jail.
He was in the 1987 Mr. Oympia and looked like a shadow of his former self. VERY emaciated and shrunken.
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That picture of Bertil is SICK. Compare that to the concentration camp version of him in 1987. He was FORCED to lose his size for the judges and Joe Weider and he still placed poorly.
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ok :D
WHAT????????? You're comparing a TEEN Bertil Fox who barely started lifting weights to a prime Haney??
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don't confuse the offseason and gym pics of Fox with what he brought to the stage ... when he dieted down he got small and see the averages weights for the 83 Olympia ..Haney was already 230 at his best 91 he was 250 ;)
Fox was 230-235 pounds at the 1982 Mr. Olympia, but was FORCED to lose 20-25 pounds because the judges felt he was TOO big. Fox was also 5'8"-5'9" while Haney was 5'11"-6'0". Fox WAS bigger than Haney, but was pressured/forced to come in WAY too light and it destroyed his physique in the process.
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As ND says,Bertils weak point was his back,especially his rear lat spread.Granted,on this pic he`s not pulled the left side fully out,but he has on the right side.
That's 1982.
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This is Bertil at his best,the 1980 WABBA Pro World,and even though his front lat spread looks decent,yet again its his rear lat spread that lets him down.He just didn`t know how to hit the poses and when you stand him side by side with the other greats thats when his weaknesses come through.
1980 was not his best. That would either be 1982 or 1983.
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And that's all they keep posting too lol power shots
Bertil appeals to people who like mass and mass alone , fox couldn't touch Haney
The 4th pic is the most impressive one of Haney to me.
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Fox was 230-235 pounds at the 1982 Mr. Olympia, but was FORCED to lose 20-25 pounds because the judges felt he was TOO big. Fox was also 5'8"-5'9" while Haney was 5'11"-6'0". Fox WAS bigger than Haney, but was pressured/forced to come in WAY too light and it destroyed his physique in the process.
he wasn't forced to lose 20-25lbs , he needed to loose the size and come in harder
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82 big & smooth
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87
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more proof of Bertil's mediocre front double biceps shot , this 82
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Give me your list guys and not who WON 1st through 5th at the Olympia, but who YOU think what the 5 best in those years.
Dorian (not Ronnie).
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82 big & smooth
He was benching 505 pounds for reps that year in the gym (1982). I have the Muscle and Fitness article. Him and Casey Viator were both pressing that kind of weight in the gym at that time.
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He was benching 505 pounds for reps that year in the gym (1982). I have the Muscle and Fitness article. Him and Casey Viator were both pressing that kind of weight in the gym at that time.
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You impress me ND with your ability to provide images for essentially everything related to bodybuilding.
That being said, the article I was referring to does not correspond to the picture you provided us with. You do get an A+ for effort though ;)
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Both Beckles and Ashley possess better flow and shape than Fox, regardless if its 80, 82, 83, 87.
Bertil was impressive, but cant compare to Haney.
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Labrada
Beckles
Haney
Gaspari
Strydom
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Epic reliance on IFBB brainwashing. Haney had huge flaws. The rest never compared with torso, not even close. Bertil was better but the truth is Weider also wanted and still prefers an articule and polite spokesman as Mr. Olympia.
Yes Ronnie was articulate, haha.
Bertil is better if you don't count back as a bodypart.
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Yes Ronnie was articulate, haha.
Bertil is better if you don't count back as a bodypart.
Newbie or gimmick?
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Labrada
Beckles
Haney
Gaspari
Strydom
The fag is back? ???
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Fox is narrow and small next to Haney show me competition shots of fox not offseason and gym shots
irony alert
ND is complaining about gym shots not competition shots meanwhile thats about all he posts of his hero yates lol
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what an idiot..
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irony alert
ND is complaining about gym shots not competition shots meanwhile thats about all he posts of his hero yates lol
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what an idiot..
Ronnie never ever matched this
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=1995+mr+olympia&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#
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irony alert
ND is complaining about gym shots not competition shots meanwhile thats about all he posts of his hero yates lol
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what an idiot..
Hello puppy thanks for following me into another thread ;)
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Ronnie never ever matched this
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=1995+mr+olympia&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#
Would have been A LOT more complete if he had a decent pair of biceps and quads.
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I'd say the number one guy is oiled up in a thong.
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Ronnie never ever matched this
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=1995+mr+olympia&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#
sure...
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ronnie eats the one armed 95 yates for lunch:
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sure...
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ronnie eats the one armed 95 yates for lunch:
get your photoshopped garbage pics out of here and stick to the topic
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He was benching 505 pounds for reps that year in the gym (1982). I have the Muscle and Fitness article. Him and Casey Viator were both pressing that kind of weight in the gym at that time.
Yes he was and I saw it personally. I was there the first day Bertil came into World Gym. In person he was huge. I see in the photos on stage though he was nothing like he was in the gym.
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Newbie or gimmick?
Newbie I guess, why what did I do? I think what I said was true.
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get your photoshopped garbage pics out of here and stick to the topic
yeah, sure they are photoshopped... ::)
forcedreps already owned your asses when it came to that...and thats from his set LOL
nice pathetic try though.. :P
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yeah, sure they are photoshopped... ::)
forcedreps already owned your asses when it came to that...and thats from his set LOL
nice pathetic try though.. :P
yup Kevin horton busted you and your boy and hid handy work and that's not forcedreps screencap either , nice try liar ;)
again stick to the topic and get your photoshopped pic out of here
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1. Anja Langer
2. Penny Price
3. M. Selin
4. Donnia Oliviera
5. Gladys Portuguese.
As I've said in the past...the guys dont matter.
I always wanted to see Gladys Nekkid.. She was HOT!!!!
Too bad she never had a good judgment in Men, She married the one and only Jean Claude Van Damme..
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Everybody keeps mentioning strydom,he turned pro in 86 was touted as next great one,has good 87/early 88 season,turns up emaciated at 88 mro,takes break and re-emerges as wbf champ massive and could have pushed haney other than back in 91 ,he was an enigma was known as the best coulda,woulda,shouda contender .he was not one of the best 80's stage bber,gaspari,haney,demey was a clear favorite,samir,even ashley not strydom.great build yes but he had one really solid season where he won some shows,inconsistent imo...
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that's not forcedreps screencap either , nice try liar
yes it is you fucking moron...
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quit crying photoshop just because you can't comprehend how good Ronnie 99 was...
forcedreps shot: