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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Topskin69 on December 19, 2008, 06:16:57 PM
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Im not sure if anyone else noticed this, (or if anyone else cares for that matter), but in the new flex, there is an article about Dennis James, and they quote DJ as saying that he would never listen to any advice that Milos ever had to say again, and that he screwed him up.
If I get time I will pull out the magazine and provide a direct quote. What suprised me was the tone that Flex used on one of their former golden boys in Milos....
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"By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired"
Kafka
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milos is bad news
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milos = washed up
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How come all of these BB's cannot take responsibility for their actions. Milos maybe gave the bad advice, but DJ didn't have a gun to his head forced to follow it line by line.
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How come all of these BB's cannot take responsibility for their actions. Milos maybe gave the bad advice, but DJ didn't have a gun to his head forced to follow it line by line.
I never understood the need for a "guru" anyway, these guys have been doing this long enough by the time they are Pros, they should know how their own bodies work/respond.
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"By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired"
Kafka
That's a cool quote. Was that in Flex, also?
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How come all of these BB's cannot take responsibility for their actions. Milos maybe gave the bad advice, but DJ didn't have a gun to his head forced to follow it line by line.
Exactly. I don't agree with a lot of what Milos advocates, but DJ is (in)famous for screwing up his conditioning and looking far less impressive onstage than he does in the days leading up to the contest. And DJ has screwed up tons of time, including when he was being trained by other people - he only nailed his conditioning onstage about 3 - 4 times in the whole of the 8+ years he competed in.
I never understood the need for a "guru" anyway, these guys have been doing this long enough by the time they are Pros, they should know how their own bodies work/respond.
Agreed. It's because rather than work their ass off and do their homework like the guys known for their work ethic (Dorian Yates, Ronnie etc), they take it easy with the prep (cutting corners with cardio etc) and then try and make up for it using drugs.
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Hank has been saying that for years.Wait until Lukes father goes to print.Fuk that Milos Flu has Fuked more BBs than a bad drug. :-\
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I never understood the need for a "guru" anyway, these guys have been doing this long enough by the time they are Pros, they should know how their own bodies work/respond.
Well Ronnie worked with Chad Nichols he obviously knew what he was doing. I think when you are at the top a guru can be a good thing mainly as a second pair of eyes to honestly monitor your progress. Also a guru is a motivational coach. I think Phil who 5 years ago didn't know the least about bb and diet probably owes much of his achievements to Hany. I don't know about Milos. His guys always start out great at first but then they have a few bad shows and a falling out with Milos. I always thought it was a money issue personally.
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That's a cool quote. Was that in Flex, also?
Lol.... no Kafka is probably out of league with most Flex neophytes.
M!
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IS a Guru a guy who miss shoots his Synthol???Oh well if it's YES then Milos is one of them Guruuuuuuus.FFS :-\
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Its hard to know where to stand with Milos...
I remember one conversation I had with Silvio... he told me that back when he was prepping him he would have him take 20 I.U.s of Humalog pre workout and post workout.... which in my opinion is WAY on the high end of the spectrum.... His "advices" have also managed to make a few of his clients sick.
On the other hand I have to give him some credit.... he actually gets in the trenches with his clients and trains his ass off with them...set for set... and his workouts are far more brutal then some of his contemporaries, (I.e. Glass etc)... Bottom line is that he has a great passion for bodybuilding, and is in fact quite knowledgeable, but he falters in that he thinks he knows everything. Truth be told the endocrine system is so complex I don't think anyone could ever have enough of a grasp on it to be dispensing general advices....
The sad reality is that none of these top guys are capable of being analytical, and assessing what works/doesent for their body's. If one is pragmatic in their approach and willing to be honest with themselves, one can outthink obstacles that occur in bodybuilding/contest prep.
M!
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Its hard to know where to stand with Milos...
I remember one conversation I had with Silvio... he told me that back when he was prepping him he would have him take 20 I.U.s of Humalog pre workout and post workout.... which in my opinion is WAY on the high end of the spectrum.... His "advices" have also managed to make a few of his clients sick.
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its not high end, the human body could naturally relase more than the equivelant of 20iu slin on its own.
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Any Fukin Idiot who tells Healthy people to inject themselves with Drugs is No Guru,He or She is a FUKWIT. :-\
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All this talk of Drug use, Don't you Fuks know that Drug use and abuse are BANNED BY THE IFBB it's in their Rule Book.FFS :-\
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I never understood the need for a "guru" anyway, these guys have been doing this long enough by the time they are Pros, they should know how their own bodies work/respond.
I agree, guru loving punks like King Kamali sicken me.
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shouldn't pros know how to train already? :-\
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I never understood the need for a "guru" anyway, these guys have been doing this long enough by the time they are Pros, they should know how their own bodies work/respond.
Exactly.
Paying a "guru" for advice is just pissing their money down the drain as far as I'm concerned when they could be spending it on more important things to win them contests. (like more/better drugs for example).
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Milos is a man who owns a gym.
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Exactly.
Paying a "guru" for advice is just pissing their money down the drain as far as I'm concerned when they could be spending it on more important things to win them contests. (like more/better drugs for example).
Guru = drug connection a lot of times.
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creeeeeeepinggg deathhhhhh
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Milos is a dangerous sociopath.
PAY NASSER BACK HIS MONEY.
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NAsser = broke, lonely washed up dickhead
why would NAsser care about money if he had an AMG?
lol
loser
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NAsser = broke, lonely washed up dickhead
why would NAsser care about money if he had an AMG?
lol
loser
You will not experience 1/4 the success in your life that Nasser has.
Nasser has assets and investments well over a million dollars.
Nasser can afford to retire in his 40s and live a very comfortable, fun packed life.
Nasser is extremely popular. Just becuase he is not friends with a lot of low-class, low-intellect bodybuilders , don't think he don't have many, many friends. He is extremely socially gifted in terms of his wit, charm and intelligence. He has NUMEROUS buddies, just not the kind of trash who , sadly, seem to populate the bodybuilding world.
HAHA He has an AMG amongst his NUMEROUS cars.
hahahahah he fucking owns you in every way. You are like a fly to a guy like him. SWAT SWAT hahahhaah
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Serbians are known to use chemical warfare it sort of comes Natural.I still think his Biceps looked better at 15" without Synthol than 18" with.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmm :-\FFS.
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What the fuck did Milos ever do besides being a greasy Greek fuck? ???
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What the fuck did Milos ever do besides being a greasy Greek fuck? ???
He's not Greek genius
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I wonder how she gets "trained"
(http://home9.swipnet.se/~w-91176/fit/fit18.jpg)
(http://home9.swipnet.se/~w-91176/bikini/bikini43.jpg)
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Ask Nasser ;DHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm
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Milos is an Expert on Synthol Shots he lay dying for 3days after his dear wife injected into the wrong place oh oh.FFS and he calls himself Guru that's Not what Dennis says anymore.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmm :-\
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if by fucked up dj means gut then he needs to take a look at chad, as it was fine untill chad got a hold of him. :-\
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You will not experience 1/4 the success in your life that Nasser has.
Nasser has assets and investments well over a million dollars.
Nasser can afford to retire in his 40s and live a very comfortable, fun packed life.
Nasser is extremely popular. Just becuase he is not friends with a lot of low-class, low-intellect bodybuilders , don't think he don't have many, many friends. He is extremely socially gifted in terms of his wit, charm and intelligence. He has NUMEROUS buddies, just not the kind of trash who , sadly, seem to populate the bodybuilding world.
HAHA He has an AMG amongst his NUMEROUS cars.
hahahahah he fucking owns you in every way. You are like a fly to a guy like him. SWAT SWAT hahahhaah
NO.
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Did someone do something to Milos wife???I think I read it somewhere in Nasser Files.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm m :-\
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creeeeeeepinggg deathhhhhh
Fight Fire With Fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best song on that album by far....
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Pathetic!
So precontest goes to shite 1st time round, lets try again a 2nd time then a third fourth and so on until we get to the end and then blame all shortcomings on the advice giver (Milos).
I give my broker money to invest he loses 50% of my money the first year i use him, maybe it was a bad year for many reasons but i like him and give him a second go only to see him lose again, there would not be a third try.
I guess it was somebody else that ordered DJ's package in thailand too- you know the one that put his arse in jail and out of thailand.
At 42 years of age maybe DJ will start to take responsibility for his own actions.
Keep it Real
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Serbians are known to use chemical warfare it sort of comes Natural.I still think his Biceps looked better at 15" without Synthol than 18" with.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmm :-\FFS.
First of all,you are typical american asshole-one of many faceless,without person and honor ignorants...We (Serbians) are NOT known for chemical warfare,but known are actually americans and their companions or,lets say,bloodhound dogs in whole world...After many countries,they used some of that shit when they bombed our country and,of course,no one was blamed for that,except poisoned people or victims themselves...I would say many more and in much colourfull,but cause of my knowledge of english (which is better then many of you there),I dont want to make some mistakes and let you spoiled children make some stupid jokes about it...
But,lets put that thing on side and lets say something about that topic here...He is a bodybuilder like anyone else,only its much harder for him cause he is not only stranger,but also from this area...Now,in America is that kind of life that,if you want to succeed you got to do or be anything and anyone (especially here where you are preoccupied with your body only)thats why almost none of you dont have his one personality,pride and honor,as well as mind and limits how far you will go and what you will do or be (especially with who you will be-any kind of way) to archieve something...Now,I dont want to say that he is a good person etc.,cause I have just said that its America and you will do anything,but I said that he is just a BB guy,all the way in that,his all life in that and guy who had succes in BB...He is not boss in steroid business nor in BB business,he is just a link...He was (or is) known for simmetry and proportion,cause BB should be a contest of nice built bodies and not a contest of exploiting people and making grotesque buffalo's out of them...
Now,about that trainer career stuff-he wasn't succeed to be Mr.O,so he wanted to have record in number of contests and I think that he succeed in that which is also an achievement.Because of that he is written in Getbig almanac or history with large database...I think that he want to make some mark and become fitness and nutrition expert,but not all bodies react the same way on same stuff that you do or use...No one was slapping them behind ears to use none of that stuff,but no one of them had success like that that before he became their trainer...They are just like a kids (typically for bodybuilders and,I can say people in USA)-they want whole world to circle around them and everything to serve them and suits for them and when its not that way,they start to blame everyone else and attack everybody other than themselves...You cant cover your own insecurities,both emotional and sexual,as well as incomplete parts of that or whole personality...
I dont want to coment that personal issue for now,cause its not moral and its not problem of any of us here,but his...But,you can see what "friends" are or what marriage are there in America and I can say not only there,but in life too...