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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: benz on December 21, 2008, 09:18:07 AM
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Good guy, hatred by many, still a good person. He's my personal friend, just like joe marica and ron avidan
Make sure the HATAZ DONT BRING YA DOWN BIATCH YEAH (derek anthony style)
:)
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Choo choo, bitches! The Moose Express is back!
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All Aboard the Moosetrain, bitches!
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everyone jump on the moose train
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::)
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everyone jump on the moose train
you first :-X :-X
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Great to have Moose back!
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Cause out on the edge of darkness,
there rides the moose train
Oh moose train take this country,
come take me home again
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The official Moosetrain theme song, straight out of an 80's dance club:
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welcome back mike!
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dude, you have enough problems, I shouldn't give you a hard time, sorry man, I hope you heal quick and get better.
I don't care who it is, anybody with this, needs sympathy.
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is that cancer or aids?
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is that cancer or aids?
it looks like something out of the sci fi movies
holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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dude, you have enough problems, I shouldn't give you a hard time, sorry man, I hope you heal quick and get better.
I don't care who it is, anybody with this, needs sympathy.
Thank you, my friend.
I like to be freinds to all.
I really donb'y know what to do.
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is that cancer or aids?
It's necrosis of the flesh caused by infection. Maybe MRSA?
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I was just going with the trend, trying to fit in, bashing you, I have never talked to you before
but you're in a lot of pain and have alot of problems.
Sorry for your wound, you should get it checked out by some other doctors, what is your current one saying?
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I was just going with the trend, trying to fit in, bashing you, I have never talked to you before
but you're in a lot of pain and have alot of problems.
Sorry for your wound, you should get it checked out by some other doctors, what is your current one saying?
Its all cool.
Well, I have gotten 2nd opinions from several docs...they all,defer and refer me back to my present doc.
I really believe it is either bad luck or I myself just don't heal very well.
I have been tested for TB, auto immune disorders, blood discrasias, the works.
I will forge onward and endure.
Thanks
Mike
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Its all cool.
Well, I have gotten 2nd opinions from several docs...they all,defer and refer me back to my present doc.
I really believe it is either bad luck or I myself just don't heal very well.
I have been tested for TB, auto immune disorders, blood discrasias, the works.
I will forge onward and endure.
Thanks
Mike
I wish you the best of luck and will pray for you.
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Its all cool.
Well, I have gotten 2nd opinions from several docs...they all,defer and refer me back to my present doc.
I really believe it is either bad luck or I myself just don't heal very well.
I have been tested for TB, auto immune disorders, blood discrasias, the works.
I will forge onward and endure.
Thanks
Mike
You should talk to a specialist in skin and tissue infections from outside your area (ie someone who doesn't know your current doc and therefore doesn't care about pissing him off).
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it's decubitus
he lies to much on his arm
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Its all cool.
Well, I have gotten 2nd opinions from several docs...they all,defer and refer me back to my present doc.
I really believe it is either bad luck or I myself just don't heal very well.
I have been tested for TB, auto immune disorders, blood discrasias, the works.
I will forge onward and endure.
Thanks
Mike
I wish you all the best!
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You should talk to a specialist in skin and tissue infections from outside your area (ie someone who doesn't know your current doc and therefore doesn't care about pissing him off).
You know who moosejay needs...
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I wish you the best of luck and will pray for you.
Thank you. my friend
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seriously, is that aids or cancer? i ask this because such wound comes from aids (destruction of human cells)
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You know who moosejay needs...
Carol laughed at this one and agrees.
We watch the all day House marathon. I love his demeanor. Mione was kinda like tghat when I was practicing.
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seriously, is that aids or cancer? i ask this because such wound comes from aids (destruction of human cells)
You are thinking of Karposi's Sarcoma...in Aids, this manifests first on the anterior legs...looks like purple splotches.
Not what I have going on.
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You should talk to a specialist in skin and tissue infections from outside your area (ie someone who doesn't know your current doc and therefore doesn't care about pissing him off).
x2
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You should talk to a specialist in skin and tissue infections from outside your area (ie someone who doesn't know your current doc and therefore doesn't care about pissing him off).
Heading to Mayo clin ic in Minnesota soon.
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will pray for you.
praying will not do anything. hth
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Heading to Mayo clin ic in Minnesota soon.
How soon?
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praying will not do anything. hth
Funny...I go to church every day.
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How soon?
It takes months to get in. Last time it took me 9 months to be seen and be admitted to St. Mary's, their hospital in Minn.
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It takes months to get in. Last time it took me 9 months to be seen and be admitted to St. Mary's, their hospital in Minn.
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dude, your arm would have no flesh on it in 9 months at this rate, tell them it's an emergency.
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Funny...I go to church every day.
Why is god letting your arm rot into somthing that looks like a prop for a horror movie then?
oh yea "god" dosen't exist.
:D
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dude you need to be in emergency hospital...
my god health care must suck in America...
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I hope you get better Moosejay
Goodluck
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I was just going with the trend, trying to fit in, bashing you, I have never talked to you before
but you're in a lot of pain and have alot of problems.
Sorry for your wound, you should get it checked out by some other doctors, what is your current one saying?
pussy
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pussy
show us your pic big guy
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I was just going with the trend, trying to fit in, bashing you, I have never talked to you before
but you're in a lot of pain and have alot of problems.
Sorry for your wound, you should get it checked out by some other doctors, what is your current one saying?
youve been talking like a big man and all tough with your cussing but now you go and do this you look like a pussy now nice job ;)
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youve been talking like a big man and all tough with your cussing but now you go and do this you look like a pussy now nice job ;)
There is a limit, moosejay is seriously sick and a cease fire was ruled by the James Grey council.
I believe it is appropriate, he's a really nice guy from what I see.
who ever you are ;)
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There is a limit, moosejay is seriously sick and a cease fire was ruled by the James Grey council.
I believe it is appropriate, he's a really nice guy from what I see.
who ever you are ;)
maybe you should take this as lesson not to come off like such a foul mouthed moron from now on? ;)
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maybe you should take this as lesson not to come off like such a foul mouthed moron from now on? ;)
how about you go back to fucking your dog, I think he still have some peanut butter left on his penis.
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I wish you the best of luck and will pray for you.
I do apprecdiate it, my friend
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dude, your arm would have no flesh on it in 9 months at this rate, tell them it's an emergency.
JG/...your wordss ring true...with each surgery (two scheduled for the next two weeks...will be 9th and 10th)...I seem to have less arm.
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I cannot find an email in which to insert a pic but here are phone numbers. If you call and ask to be able to send a pic I would think and hope that someone would give you a valid email in which they can view your arm.
Appointments at Mayo Clinic
Anyone can request an appointment at Mayo Clinic. If a physician referral is required, our appointment staff will advise you. Some insurers require referrals, or may have additional requirements for certain medical care. All appointments are prioritized on the basis of medical need.
Telephone Inquiries
U.S. Patients
Arizona
(800) 446-2279 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. Mountain time Monday through Friday.
Florida
(904) 953-0853 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. Eastern time Monday through Friday.
Minnesota
(507) 538-3270 between 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Central time Monday through Thursday, 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. Friday.
HERE IS WHERE YOU CAN SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST FOR AN APPOINTMENT (I'm assuming you live in the US):
https://forms.mayoforms.org/forms/up/mc408606.cfm
The above has a form to fill out and submit. I would do that first and then call immediately after that.
Thanks for doing this tomorrow.
:)
Stella :)
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dude you need to be in emergency hospital...
my god health care must suck in America...
Friend...it is an enduring problem that is being managed magnificently.
My docs send me emails and give me their home phone numbers.
This is simply a problem that will not easily relent.
What...do you expect magic?
In America, magic does not work.;
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JG/...your wordss ring true...with each surgery (two scheduled for the next two weeks...will be 9th and 10th)...I seem to have less arm.
surgery?
they should get whatever bacteria that is infecting it to die then wrap it up and let it heal, why are they cutting it up more?
damn, that's scary :'(
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I hope you get better Moosejay
Goodluck
I appreciate it, BB1`1234
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Friend...it is an enduring problem that is being managed magnificently.
My docs send me emails and give me their home phone numbers.
This is simply a problem that will not easily relent.
What...do you expect magic?
In America, magic does not work.;
Maybe you should move to Dubai, India Mike ;D
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There is a limit, moosejay is seriously sick and a cease fire was ruled by the James Grey council.
I believe it is appropriate, he's a really nice guy from what I see.
who ever you are ;)
Admirable and I thank you...you are a good citizen and person.
Stay the course, Mike
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Maybe you should move to Dubai, India Mike ;D
haha...is that where that Blacksm ith guy and the kid bb from Canada go?
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Moose, you seem to bounce from one sickness to the next.
Is Getbig helping you to keep your life in perspective?
And also, have you found faith?
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haha...is that where that Blacksm ith guy and the kid bb from Canada go?
hahahahahahahahahahaha
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moosejay, you have my sincere best wishes. share with us , if you care to, what are you taking for anxiety and pain. thanks in advance.
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moosejay, you have my sincere best wishes. share with us , if you care to, what are you taking for anxiety and pain. thanks in advance.
Neurontin
Morphine
Demerol
Bactrim
currently
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you have got loads of bandages etc. on it right?
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you have got loads of bandages etc. on it right?
I currently have a wound-vac on it,.,,,toexpedite healing
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Neurontin
Morphine
Demerol
Bactrim
Cock
currently
you forgot one.
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you forgot one.
I don't follow you...?
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I don't follow you...?
"no one" means you forgot the lord baby jesus ;D
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"no one" means you forgot the lord baby jesus ;D
Huh.
And I do try to go to church every day these days
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And also, have you found faith?
:D
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Is this some sting op trying to scam moosegay for his hard earned insurance cash? 8)
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I cannot find an email in which to insert a pic but here are phone numbers. If you call and ask to be able to send a pic I would think and hope that someone would give you a valid email in which they can view your arm.
Appointments at Mayo Clinic
Anyone can request an appointment at Mayo Clinic. If a physician referral is required, our appointment staff will advise you. Some insurers require referrals, or may have additional requirements for certain medical care. All appointments are prioritized on the basis of medical need.
Telephone Inquiries
U.S. Patients
Arizona
(800) 446-2279 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. Mountain time Monday through Friday.
Florida
(904) 953-0853 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. Eastern time Monday through Friday.
Minnesota
(507) 538-3270 between 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Central time Monday through Thursday, 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. Friday.
HERE IS WHERE YOU CAN SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST FOR AN APPOINTMENT (I'm assuming you live in the US):
https://forms.mayoforms.org/forms/up/mc408606.cfm
The above has a form to fill out and submit. I would do that first and then call immediately after that.
Thanks for doing this tomorrow.
:)
Stella :)
Thank you !@!@!!
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Moose has said he had bad experiences at the mayo before. I am sure he will find the best place for himself, he is a great mind, and a great guy. I would like to know what it is in the end, it looks very weird. Have they considered leprosy Moose? I am glad you are back.
jt
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Rochester, Minnesota will never be the same.
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Is this some sting op trying to scam moosegay for his hard earned insurance cash? 8)
move all of those useless threads or wipe them please, we dont need to see his terminator arm all over the board
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Actually
there are some very smart people here
just like those ehbo look for nutrition, steroid, trainiong advice here
I may find ONE person who has the answer for me
It doesn';t have to me an all mighty doctor
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Moose, you seem to bounce from one sickness to the next.
Is Getbig helping you to keep your life in perspective?
And also, have you found faith?
Hank are suggesting Moose could well be a Product of Milos????Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :-\
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Moose has said he had bad experiences at the mayo before. I am sure he will find the best place for himself, he is a great mind, and a great guy. I would like to know what it is in the end, it looks very weird. Have they considered leprosy Moose? I am glad you are back.
jt
thanks. but no, nolt leprosy :)
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Rochester, Minnesota will never be the same.
\It is cold as hell there
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\It is cold as hell there
damn right, shit it's zero right now where i am and i'm two states to the south of there, it gets downright frigid up there.
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without knowing your differential diagnosis, what is being ruled out b yor primary doc?
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damn right, shit it's zero right now where i am and i'm two states to the south of there, it gets downright frigid up there.
I was thjere from October to December, in 1992
all I recall was freezing my nuts off
and all the people looked like theyn were norse
Blond hair, blue eyes
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without knowing your differential diagnosis, what is being ruled out b yor primary doc?
hell
ida know
I just wanna get better
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I was thjere from October to December, in 1992
all I recall was freezing my nuts off
and all the people looked like theyn were norse
Blond hair, blue eyes
I need to move.
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and all the people looked like theyn were norse
Blond hair, blue eyes
Where exactly is this promise land?
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Where exactly is this promise land?
Minnesota
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Moose so like how do you get a shower and stuff? Is the wound have to be serran wrapped in plastic or something?
jt
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Moose so like how do you get a shower and stuff? Is the wound have to be serran wrapped in plastic or something?
jt
It is a royal pain in the ass...I am so non-mobile I have tyo watch that I do not fall.
The arm/wound has to be covered/taped woth a plastic garbage bag
as does the wound-vac unit
Nothing is easy these days
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Moose, it's good to see you back on here. I hope you and your family have a great holiday... and get well soon! :-*
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Moose, it's good to see you back on here. I hope you and your family have a great holiday... and get well soon! :-*
Thanks so much, and back to you with well wishes!
You look great, by the way!
Mike
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Hank are suggesting Moose could well be a Product of Milos????Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :-\
ummmm, no.
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welcome back moosejay-i knew youd be back!
i will keep u in my prayers for a speedy recovery
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Damn :o :o :o :o :o
http://voice-of-deseret.blogspot.com/2008/01/multi-drug-resistant-mrsa-gay-bacteria.html
http://news.ucsf.edu/releases/new-multi-drug-resistant-bacteria-emerge-in-us-cities-on-both-coasts/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/health/15infe.html?ref=science
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by heavy meds that are taking effect
all prescribed
so
my one-armed typing efforts
will erode
even still
cheers!@
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I enjoyed your re joining the forums today Moose, thx for coming back.
jt
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True he could have gotten it, even though he isn't gay or doesn't do gay activities, non gay people could get this.
jt
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I enjoyed your re joining the forums today Moose, thx for coming back.
jt
yes
beinmh hjere is a great stress relief
mike
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this is from one of your articles ???
In a study published online by the journal Annals of Internal Medicine, the bacteria seemed to be spread most easily through anal intercourse
The new strain seems to have “spread rapidly” in gay populations in San Francisco and Boston, the researchers wrote, and “has the potential for rapid, nationwide dissemination” among gay men.
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Damn :o :o :o :o :o
http://voice-of-deseret.blogspot.com/2008/01/multi-drug-resistant-mrsa-gay-bacteria.html
http://news.ucsf.edu/releases/new-multi-drug-resistant-bacteria-emerge-in-us-cities-on-both-coasts/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/health/15infe.html?ref=science
sorry to disappoint you, 'Queen'...not gay
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sorry to disappoint you, 'Queen'...not OPENLYgay
FIXED
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sorry to disappoint you, 'Queen'...not gay
C'mon don't be ignorant ,did you read the article the "USA 300 " bacteria spread among heterosexuals also , just like AIDS
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Wishing you a speedy recovery.
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Wishing you a speedy recovery.
Thanks
It has been sluggish
Maybe thinmghs will suddenly improve
I have hope
you can always have hope
anything canb happenm
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get well dude
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get well dude
I thank you
I will do my level best
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Moose,
I wanted to offer you some honest advice since your situation seems very critical at the moment. I don't know what physician you have visited, but at this point it seems like whatever they are doing isn't doing you very good.
Like I said in my earlier post, the best way to tackle this problem is to:
(A) Have your physician's office run a CBC and pay close attention to the White count, being particular to whether the neutrophil (Indicative of Bacterial infection) or Leukocyte (Indicative of viral infection) count is high.
(B) Culture the wound, see what exact strand is affecting the site locally.
(C) Be aggressive and make sure that your physician prescribes both a strong broad-spectrum antibiotic the likes of Zyvox, that is one of the few antibiotics that can rid your system of bacterial strands as potent as MRSA, and a topical antibiotic cream.
(D) If you are indeed a diabetic (More so leaning on having Diabetes Mellitus), the odds of you having gangrene at that site is probably EXTREMELY high. You probably have heard this from your physician, but, if not, find out whether your injury can be classified as dry gangrene. Most patients that have Diabetes Mellitus tend to develop arteriosclerosis due to the clogging of arteries from plaque formed by the excess glucose.
Conclusively, if I had to make a diagnosis based just on the pictures provided and the little information that you have mentioned, I would lean on the fact that as a Diabetic, you probably developed dry gangrene at that site and over the course also picked up a localized infection that only exacerbated the situation. Truthfully, it looks like a combination of Dry Gangrene and MRSA at the site. The only reason why I am not certain is because with dry gangrene sooner or later the tissue tends to become black (necrotic), but that doesn't seem to be the case with you.
Either way, like I said before, CBC with a site culture followed with an antibiotic that is specifically effective against whatever bacterial strand is found at the site and then you can tackle it with some antibiotic ointment and dress it thoroughly on a day to day with such things like a Duoderm pad.
"1"
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Moose,
I wanted to offer you some honest advice since your situation seems very critical at the moment. I don't know what physician you have visited, but at this point it seems like whatever they are doing isn't doing you very good.
Like I said in my earlier post, the best way to tackle this problem is to:
(A) Have your physician's office run a CBC and pay close attention to the White count, being particular to whether the neutrophil (Indicative of Bacterial infection) or Leukocyte (Indicative of viral infection) count is high.
(B) Culture the wound, see what exact strand is affecting the site locally.
(C) Be aggressive and make sure that your physician prescribes both a strong broad-spectrum antibiotic the likes of Zyvox, that is one of the few antibiotics that can rid your system of bacterial strands as potent as MRSA, and a topical antibiotic cream.
(D) If you are indeed a diabetic (More so leaning on having Diabetes Mellitus), the odds of you having gangrene at that site is probably EXTREMELY high. You probably have heard this from your physician, but, if not, find out whether your injury can be classified as dry gangrene. Most patients that have Diabetes Mellitus tend to develop arteriosclerosis due to the clogging of arteries from plaque formed by the excess glucose.
Conclusively, if I had to make a diagnosis based just on the pictures provided and the little information that you have mentioned, I would lean on the fact that as a Diabetic, you probably developed dry gangrene at that site and over the course also picked up a localized infection that only exacerbated the situation. Truthfully, it looks like a combination of Dry Gangrene and MRSA at the site. The only reason why I am not certain is because with dry gangrene sooner or later the tissue tends to become black (necrotic), but that doesn't seem to be the case with you.
Either way, like I said before, CBC with a site culture followed with an antibiotic that is specifically effective against whatever bacterial strand is found at the site and then you can tackle it with some antibiotic ointment and dress it thoroughly on a day to day with such things like a Duoderm pad.
"1"
thanks onemorerep
I have tried the Zyvex...now am on bactrim, 2 times a day at 800 mgs
I tghought the painful dry gangrene...bnut I am not diabetic.
zI will consider the blkood cultures
Thqanks
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thanks onemorerep
I have tried the Zyvex...now am on bactrim, 2 times a day at 800 mgs
I tghought the painful dry gangrene...bnut I am not diabetic.
zI will consider the blkood cultures
Thqanks
If there is anything else I can do to help by way of advice, please let me know. One thing is to bullshit around on the forums and make fun of people, but with this case it's gotten pretty serious and while I personally don't know you, it would suck for you to have that limb or portion of it amputated due to negligent care. If I come up with anything else, I will make sure to let you know.
Good luck man,
"1"
P.S. Wet Gangrene can also be the cause of it and you don't have to be a diabetic to get wet or dry gangrene. While diabetics are more prone to suffering from dry and wet gangrene, the same can happen to a person that suffers from a crushing injury that restricts blood flow to the site. Either which way, be careful and make sure that whatever is at the site doesn't become systemic.
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If there is anything else I can do to help by way of advice, please let me know. One thing is to bullshit around on the forums and make fun of people, but with this case it's gotten pretty serious and while I personally don't know you, it would suck for you to have that limb or portion of it amputated due to negligent care. If I come up with anything else, I will make sure to let you know.
Good luck man,
"1"
P.S. Wet Gangrene can also be the cause of it and you don't have to be a diabetic to get wet or dry gangrene. While diabetics are more prone to suffering from dry and wet gangrene, the same can happen to a person that suffers from a crushing injury that restricts blood flow to the site. Either which way, be careful and make sure that whatever is at the site doesn't become systemic.
Thanks...I just don't un derstand, with each surgery, why there is less and less of my arm.
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Thanks...I just don't un derstand, with each surgery, why there is less and less of my arm.
because bacterias "run" away when they are in danger
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because bacterias "run" away when they are in danger
i don't follow you....
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i don't follow you....
its a mechanism to prevent dying, like if you see a lion, you run away, same for bacterias, doctors = lions
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Thanks...I just don't un derstand, with each surgery, why there is less and less of my arm.
If you provide me with the diagnosis that your doctor provided you with, I can then put together the pieces and decipher what surgical approach he might be taking in order to treat your condition.
Also, while I don't know your medical history, sometimes secondary disorders might be to blame for the lack of healing/recovery. I don't know if you suffer from any other conditions that might be compromising your immune system and thus your ability to heal at a normal rate.
Either way, follow your doctor's advice and stay away from any activity that can further jeopardize your arm.
"1"
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Religion becomes all so convenient huh Moose!
Keep praying to some mythical character, if thats what makes you feel better.
At the end of the day, you need to take responsibility for yourself and stop putting it the hands of god, goldilox, snow white or whoever!
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following J Grey i would also like to say sorry for any negative comments regarding your illness moose, hope you recover quick and easy! all the best :)
as for the other stuff the the gloves are still off moose ;D
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following J Grey i would also like to say sorry for any negative comments regarding your illness moose, hope you recover quick and easy! all the best :)
as for the other stuff the the gloves are still off moose ;D
there you go 8)
you got some human in you.
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following J Grey i would also like to say sorry for any negative comments regarding your illness moose, hope you recover quick and easy! all the best :)
as for the other stuff the the gloves are still off moose ;D
Thanks
I give you a B-
Friends to all!@
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trolling moose about his Bill Pearl days and his gayness is a lot of fun that we all enjoy ;D
but i was wrong to make bad comments about his health, dont worry moose you will pull through :)
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There is a limit, moosejay is seriously sick and a cease fire was ruled by the James Grey council.
I believe it is appropriate, he's a really nice guy from what I see.
who ever you are ;)
what a pussy ::)
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I'm waiting for Apenis or Goodrum to give some of their expert advice to Moose.
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I'm waiting for Apenis or Goodrum to give some of their expert advice to Moose.
we can all hope and pray that vince turdbum doesnt ruin this thread by posting in it ;D
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I'm waiting for Apenis or Goodrum to give some of their expert advice to Moose.
Mcdonalds and bee pollen.
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trolling moose about his Bill Pearl days and his gayness is a lot of fun that we all enjoy ;D
but i was wrong to make bad comments about his health, dont worry moose you will pull through :)
I hop-e so, Schmoe it is a terribly rough patch for now...lotsa questions unanswwereed and I am wasting lots of life
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Religion becomes all so convenient huh Moose!
Keep praying to some mythical character, if thats what makes you feel better.
At the end of the day, you need to take responsibility for yourself and stop putting it the hands of god, goldilox, snow white or whoever!
I am responsible and accountable for myself
I am a self-contained unit
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what a pussy ::)
how many times do I have to tell you there is a difference between being a pussy and being a human being?
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Moose,
I noticed that you are partial to MDs from Yale, that being the case, there is one physician that I know from there that can be of service, PM me if you would like further details.
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I'm waiting for Apenis or Goodrum to give some of their expert advice to Moose.
who is apenis?
Frankly, I will liosten to anyonme's advide.
Stella, for one, has given me some great advice
as has Onemorerep, and a few others
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what a pussy ::)
yeah
"BIG MARK C" my arse
104 posts
doof
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yeah
"BIG MARK C" my arse
104 posts
doof
he is a person who posts here all the time under his real account
he is too much of a pussy to post under it, and is bitching about quaker fat.
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another spiderbite ???
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Why is god letting your arm rot into somthing that looks like a prop for a horror movie then?
oh yea "god" dosen't exist.
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Little kids are born deformed, people die of terrible diseases, and there are earthquakes and tornadoes that cause havoc. This proves that we are on our own. There is no God! How do you answer that?
Three philosophers are seated in a plane. The first man said that he heard that during the early hours of the night, hijackers took over the controls. As he spoke, the plane lunged to the left and thrust a number of passengers against the wall, seriously injuring some of them.
After the second man gained his composure, he said, Because of what just happened, I don't believe that this plane was ever made. Even though his statement didn't make sense, he continued to maintain that the entire plane, with its seats, windows, lighting, air conditioning, engines, etc., happened by accident.
As the third philosopher began to give his thoughts, the plane again lunged to one side. This time it was so violent that many passengers were seriously injured and two elderly people were killed. He was obviously shaken, but was able to share his thoughts about what had happened. He said that despite what was happening on the plane, he thought all was well in the cockpit.
It was then that someone quickly passed a hand-written note to the first man. It read, Hijackers! All to be thrust out of the plane. Parachute under seat. Put it on now. Going to cut the lighting. Be ready to jump! As he read its words, his eyes widened. This confirmed that something was radically wrong. He quickly reached under his seat and put the parachute on, and then passed the note on to the second philosopher.
The second man read the words on the note. He smiled said, This note hasn't used correct grammar. Parachute under seat isn't even a complete sentence With that, he crumpled the note and dropped it to the floor.
The third man, still shaken by what had happened on the plane, picked up the note and read it. He said, It sure looks authentic. It does have the airlines letterhead. What's happening on the plane does add up to something being radically wrong, I think I now believe there is something wrong. However, he then sat in his seat, not bothering to put his parachute on, or even to pass the note on to others!
Here we have three common reactions to the message of the gospel:
Obviously, the first passenger is a genuine convert. He understands that the issue of suffering--disease, pain and death shows that something is radically wrong between God and man. His knowledge of the jump that he must take through the door of death causes him to trust in the Savior.
The second man is an atheist. He uses the issue of suffering to somehow make an illogical leap into the philosophy that there is no God. The thought that the whole of creation, with its flowers, its birds, the sun, the moon, the animal kingdom, the beauty of the seasons, the incredible variety of succulent fruit trees, etc., all happened by accident. The notion that such reasoning borders on insanity doesn't enter his unthinking and sin-loving mind. He doesn't bother to humbly study the warning of Scripture. Instead, he exalts himself above the mind of his Creator, and condescendingly becomes a critic of the Word of God. He maintains it is full of errors and therefore cant be trusted. [See: Why the Atheist doesn't exist and ChristianAnswers.Net's Creation SuperLibrary for evidences for a Creator.]
The third man is an average person. He believes in God. He even believes the Bible. He is easily convinced that something may be wrong between man and God, but he doesn't see his urgent need to put on the Lord Jesus Christ. How do we awaken these two men?
For the answer, lets go back to the plane. The first man simply needs to tell the other two philosophers to look out of the window for a moment, and to think about the 25,000-foot fall. Their knowledge of the unbending law of gravity should kick in, and from there common sense should do the rest. It should cause both men to look under their seat for the parachute.
The issue of suffering is not something the Christian should avoid. It is glaring evidence that man has rejected God; all is not well on board the flight. It works for our cause, not against it. All these things, pain, disease, droughts, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc. should cause the thinking person to investigate the claims of the note of God's Word, and see its explanation.
However, the ultimate convincing agent is, of course, the unbending Law of God. It is the knowledge of the Law and the fearful consequences of transgressing its precepts that should cause fear to kick in, and hopefully common sense should then cause the sinner to seek after the Savior, who lovingly died and rose again, so that they might be saved.
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he is a person who posts here all the time under his real account
he is too much of a pussy to post under it, and is bitching about quaker fat.
probably squadfather
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Little kids are born deformed, people die of terrible diseases, and there are earthquakes and tornadoes that cause havoc. This proves that we are on our own. There is no God! How do you answer that?
Three philosophers are seated in a plane. The first man said that he heard that during the early hours of the night, hijackers took over the controls. As he spoke, the plane lunged to the left and thrust a number of passengers against the wall, seriously injuring some of them.
After the second man gained his composure, he said, Because of what just happened, I don't believe that this plane was ever made. Even though his statement didn't make sense, he continued to maintain that the entire plane, with its seats, windows, lighting, air conditioning, engines, etc., happened by accident.
As the third philosopher began to give his thoughts, the plane again lunged to one side. This time it was so violent that many passengers were seriously injured and two elderly people were killed. He was obviously shaken, but was able to share his thoughts about what had happened. He said that despite what was happening on the plane, he thought all was well in the cockpit.
It was then that someone quickly passed a hand-written note to the first man. It read, Hijackers! All to be thrust out of the plane. Parachute under seat. Put it on now. Going to cut the lighting. Be ready to jump! As he read its words, his eyes widened. This confirmed that something was radically wrong. He quickly reached under his seat and put the parachute on, and then passed the note on to the second philosopher.
The second man read the words on the note. He smiled said, This note hasn't used correct grammar. Parachute under seat isn't even a complete sentence With that, he crumpled the note and dropped it to the floor.
The third man, still shaken by what had happened on the plane, picked up the note and read it. He said, It sure looks authentic. It does have the airlines letterhead. What's happening on the plane does add up to something being radically wrong, I think I now believe there is something wrong. However, he then sat in his seat, not bothering to put his parachute on, or even to pass the note on to others!
Here we have three common reactions to the message of the gospel:
Obviously, the first passenger is a genuine convert. He understands that the issue of suffering--disease, pain and death shows that something is radically wrong between God and man. His knowledge of the jump that he must take through the door of death causes him to trust in the Savior.
The second man is an atheist. He uses the issue of suffering to somehow make an illogical leap into the philosophy that there is no God. The thought that the whole of creation, with its flowers, its birds, the sun, the moon, the animal kingdom, the beauty of the seasons, the incredible variety of succulent fruit trees, etc., all happened by accident. The notion that such reasoning borders on insanity doesn't enter his unthinking and sin-loving mind. He doesn't bother to humbly study the warning of Scripture. Instead, he exalts himself above the mind of his Creator, and condescendingly becomes a critic of the Word of God. He maintains it is full of errors and therefore cant be trusted. [See: Why the Atheist doesn't exist and ChristianAnswers.Net's Creation SuperLibrary for evidences for a Creator.]
The third man is an average person. He believes in God. He even believes the Bible. He is easily convinced that something may be wrong between man and God, but he doesn't see his urgent need to put on the Lord Jesus Christ. How do we awaken these two men?
For the answer, lets go back to the plane. The first man simply needs to tell the other two philosophers to look out of the window for a moment, and to think about the 25,000-foot fall. Their knowledge of the unbending law of gravity should kick in, and from there common sense should do the rest. It should cause both men to look under their seat for the parachute.
The issue of suffering is not something the Christian should avoid. It is glaring evidence that man has rejected God; all is not well on board the flight. It works for our cause, not against it. All these things, pain, disease, droughts, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc. should cause the thinking person to investigate the claims of the note of God's Word, and see its explanation.
However, the ultimate convincing agent is, of course, the unbending Law of God. It is the knowledge of the Law and the fearful consequences of transgressing its precepts that should cause fear to kick in, and hopefully common sense should then cause the sinner to seek after the Savior, who lovingly died and rose again, so that they might be saved.
there is god, i believe in him. Not because you are a infidel means theres no god :)
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probably squadfather
wouldn't doubt it, he is on here bitching about himself being outted.
whose gimmick are you? ;D
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wouldn't doubt it, he is on here bitching about himself being outted.
whose gimmick are you? ;D
sorry but im not a gimmick, this is my only account :(
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sorry but im not a gimmick, this is my only account :(
haha, 100 posts and you know about quaker fat? alright
I want to punch the guy in your avatar in the face!
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you forgot one.
hahahahaha
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onemorerep is giving great advise, especially the CBC. The blood should tell everything you need to know.
WHY didn't your current doctor go though all this with you already is beyond me. I would seriously consider getting rid of him very quickly. Your local vet would have been able to give better advise.
Best of luck!!!!!!!
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Dusa will recover.
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haha, 100 posts and you know about quaker fat? alright
I want to punch the guy in your avatar in the face!
why would you want to do that? ;D
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Moose,
I noticed that you are partial to MDs from Yale, that being the case, there is one physician that I know from there that can be of service, PM me if you would like further details.
"1"
yes, please PM me with details
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onemorerep is giving great advise, especially the CBC. The blood should tell everything you need to know.
WHY didn't your current doctor go though all this with you already is beyond me. I would seriously consider getting rid of him very quickly. Your local vet would have been able to give better advise.
Best of luck!!!!!!!
thanks, and ida know, they are doiung things their way, I guess.
I am exhausted and sick on all this...iot been over a year...i have been crushed,....but I will rise again
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Dusa will recover.
Yes.
yes I will
Strength and Honor.
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amputate it stop being a pussy and cut it off get a hook bitches love that shit
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moose is more in to boys, im sure they would love a hook just as much as the bitches ;D
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Have you tried Maggot therapy MIke??
I know this is used for diabetics with wounds such as these that will not heal----if you have not tried it than I would press your doctors to do it, its been proven succesful and what do you have to lose by doing it
good luck and may God be with you Mike!!!!
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Moose, you came to this site and no one had a clue who the f**k you were.
You now come back to the site, all sick and diseased. However, this time everyone here knows how you operate!
People are very suspicious of you Moose!
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The official Moosetrain theme song, straight out of an 80's dance club:
i feel the optimism without the superficial hate
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=253433.0;attach=294530;image)
That's what I'm talkin' about! :-*
Moosegay, how'd that confident prediction of a McCain victory work out for ya'? ::)
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Mike Dusa is back and this time it's personal.
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Choo choo, bitches! The Moose Express is back!
The Moose Caboose is Loose ahahahahahahaha fukin fa99ot
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The second man read the words on the note. He smiled said, This note hasn't used correct grammar. Parachute under seat isn't even a complete sentence With that, he crumpled the note and dropped it to the floor.
that guy posts here
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amputate it stop being a pussy and cut it off get a hook bitches love that shit
I am not tha tough
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Have you tried Maggot therapy MIke??
I know this is used for diabetics with wounds such as these that will not heal----if you have not tried it than I would press your doctors to do it, its been proven succesful and what do you have to lose by doing it
good luck and may God be with you Mike!!!!
\I have not
b ut I am gettin g to the point where I may consider mentioneing this to my docs
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show us a recent pic
hope it didn't catch your torso
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I LIKE his old school pic threads ,but when he gets unwrapped and especially his comeback here,he sound s more like the 3rd member of the insane clown posse.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=253433.0;attach=294530;image)
Oh man IceT's Bitch :P :P :P :P :P
She has softcore porn movie, does anybody has a download link for that?
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::)
Well, fellows
Hate to disappoint you
But those trunks are fuscia, not pin k
and,
I took second in the NPC North Eastern in 1986, and was qualified for nationals
twice
My arms were 18" cut there
Don't hate
appreciate
I can teach you much
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welcome back mike!
Thanks Rob!
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Friend...it is an enduring problem that is being managed magnificently.
My docs send me emails and give me their home phone numbers.
This is simply a problem that will not easily relent.
What...do you expect magic?
In America, magic does not work.;
Neither is your praying.
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it's cute moosejay has a new
lover admirer in MemberX j grey
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\I have not
b ut I am gettin g to the point where I may consider mentioneing this to my docs
Ive seen many shows on the effectiveness of maggot therapy and seen it succesfully treat wounds just as bad as yours-----nature is much better at doing things they would could ever hope to be...take a spiders web for example, we could do miracles if we could manufacture such strong material