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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on December 22, 2008, 04:31:29 AM
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1997 vs. 2004
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More..
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Its been mentioned 100's of times that 99 was his best. He looked best 97/98 with a waistline IMO.
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Its been mentioned 100's of times that 99 was his best
very true
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Its been mentioned 100's of times that 99 was his best. He looked best 97/98 with a waistline IMO.
It's been metioned 100s of times 2001 ASC was his best ;) and 1998 Olympia
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very true
;)
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Big Ronnie all the way. He introduced coming into a bbdg show carring 290lbs of ripped mass. ALL top 15 teir bodybuilders ave disteneted bellies that are attributed to HGH / IGF-1 / Slin abuse.
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Little Ronnie looks better, but you'd have to be a moron to pretend not to realise that Ronnie's added width and overall size was what helped him stay on top. If he'd stayed all streamlined then the Jays, Levrone's etc would have dwarfed him after a while with their superior width and thickness.
Jay in 2003 especially would have beaten Ronnie 2002. I think this was where Ronnie was clever, spotting Jay's strengths (delts and quads) he went out and arrived onstage in 2003 with the craziest delts and quads seen in many years. Suddenly Jay's trump cards looked entirely underwhelming.
It's like how old school Jay looks better than 2006 Jay, but you can't blame the guy for doing what it takes to win the O.
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ND fears the 99 ronnie collage...
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ND fears the 99 ronnie collage...
Ronnie 99 fears Dorian :)
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
owned ;)
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"dude where's my gh gut"
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"dude where's my gh gut"
:-X
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Ronnie 99 fears Dorian :)
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
owned ;)
ronnie knew the politics of the day. so did. everyone else.
you don't.
hope this helps.
whats it like being totally oblivious to the obvious?
::)
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Ronnie 99 fears Dorian :)
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
owned ;)
He isnt that stupid. If Yates had lost a leg along w/his bicep...he would have won 7. Divcom knows so. How can he be owned? Next?
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:-X
:P
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He isnt that stupid. If Yates had lost a leg along w/his bicep...he would have won 7. Divcom knows so. How can he be owned? Next?
exactly.
but like I said, normal things about the sport that everyone knows go right over ND's head...
::)
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:P
proof he was falling apart. d##n...fatbastard is sexier.
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:-X
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He isnt that stupid. If Yates had lost a leg along w/his bicep...he would have won 7. Divcom knows so. How can he be owned? Next?
he's owned period , spare me the politics excuse
if he meant politics see what he said about gunther beating him and Jay, thanks for playing ;) ;)
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exactly.
but like I said, normal things about the sport that everyone knows go right over ND's head...
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Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
next ;)
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Ronnie on politics
THOUGHTS ON LOSING TO SCHLIERKAMP AT THE 2002 GNC SHOW OF STRENGTH:
It was nothing more than a way to create interest in the sport. No reigning Mr. Olympia had lost a show like this before. The goal was to shake things up, set the stage for a three-way battle [with Cutler and Schlierkamp] at the 2003 Mr. Olympia. There was no way in the world that I should have lost the GNC. Just look at the photos. I was victimized by the system
Ronnie fearing Dorian
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
no politics , no excuses , Ronnie bows down to the superior bodybuilder ;D
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:P
who fears great pics lol yeah I thought so ;)
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Ronnie 99 fears Dorian :)
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
owned ;)
Hahahaha...
Owned indeed. Ronnie admits Dorian is better.
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Big Ronnie, all the way....Especially his look in 2003.
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Its been mentioned 100's of times that 99 was his best. He looked best 97/98 with a waistline IMO.
98 O and 01 Arnold were his best showings.
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small Ronnie really is not that small
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small Ronnie really is not that small
he was not small beside shawn ray for example but too small beside his later size.. till 97 he was not counted among the mass monsters of the 90s (dorian, nasser, fux,... who else??... ah paul dillet..
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To expand on my earlier point; I think in 2001/2002 Ronnie was trying to get back to being small with lines, but his body had passed the point of no return, he found that coming in lighter just meant depletion with small arms and the belly stayed big. It worked once for the Arnold Classic, but his belly was still there really. After this he sensibly decided to play up his strengths, insane size, shape and vascularity. Awesome!
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To expand on my earlier point; I think in 2001/2002 Ronnie was trying to get back to being small with lines, but his body had passed the point of no return, he found that coming in lighter just meant depletion with small arms and the belly stayed big. It worked once for the Arnold Classic, but his belly was still there really. After this he sensibly decided to play up his strengths, insane size, shape and vascularity. Awesome!
u may b right that he tried to return back to his old lines to look better but what do you mean by "but his body had passed the point of no return,"??.. ronnie was ronnie so if he used the same system (diet, training..etc) he had used for mr. olympia 98 for ex. he would hv got the same shape.. but it's clear tht he tried to do it wth another modified system which clearly didn't work well..
ur body will always respond the same way to the same thing.. by 2001/2002 ronnie was still not too old so there was no big diff. than in 97/98 and he could have repeated the same condition if he did it the same old way..
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Unfortunately this is simply not true, as Kamali, Kovacs or any guy with fried receptors and a big waist will tell you. If your obliques are much bigger 5 years down the line from heavy squatting/deads or whatever, then training the same way will not yield the same results vis a vis overall body shape.
Ronnie has famously trained the same way since the beginning, just altering his diet as Teh Chad or whoever sees fit. He has gotten stronger on squats etc, and his quads got bigger between 98 and 2003, but so did his waist.
I know drugs play a part, but basically it's hard to unbuild that muscle whilst still keeping quad size, Gustavo is a case in point now too. He's cut down on leg work to get his waist down again, now he has small legs and his waist is still big. Or Rich Gaspari. Jay had a smaller waist once. All these guys get big waists and don't know how to get rid of them, so if anything, they are forced to change their training in an attemp to combat this. Your body won't respond to weights the same after 30 years that it did when you first start training, its job is to adapt, and for many that's what it does, in a bad way.
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check out Ronnie 99 vs Ronnie 2003: