http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
Holy fucking shit. He looks like he's made out of stone. No one has ever come close to this condition and this size. The proportions are masterful. Gotta love Shawn Ray getting booed too haha.
Epic ball-washing by two homos haha
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
Holy fucking shit. He looks like he's made out of stone. No one has ever come close to this condition and this size. The proportions are masterful. Gotta love Shawn Ray getting booed too haha.
Epic ball-washing by two homos haha:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
STFU turd boy. ;)meltdown ;)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
Holy fucking shit. He looks like he's made out of stone. No one has ever come close to this condition and this size. The proportions are masterful. Gotta love Shawn Ray getting booed too haha.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067
Holy fucking shit. He looks like he's made out of stone. No one has ever come close to this condition and this size. The proportions are masterful. Gotta love Shawn Ray getting booed too haha.
Ronnie beat it...
;) :D ;D ??? ::) :o :o :o :o :o :o
I rest my case.
Dorian raised the bar of size and conditioning so high it will be a long time before anyone matches it. Ronnie achieved it with size, but never Dorian's level of conditioning.
Dorian raised the bar of size and conditioning so high it will be a long time before anyone matches it. Ronnie achieved it with size, but never Dorian's level of conditioning.
someone should tell that to dorian:
cause Ronnie far eclipsed what dorian brought to the table especially in 1995:
Ronnie wins! OWNED!!!!!
BOOM!!!! YIP, YIP!!!!
Ronnie wins! OWNED!!!!!wow youd have to be insane not to see ronnie owning the keg there!
BOOM!!!! YIP, YIP!!!!
lmfao at that absurd ' comparison '
It is isn't? Ronnie does quite a job at destroying that homophobe Yates. It almost seems not real.
If you think that's accurate you're in Hulkster territory for delusion
they don't have the same size calves I don't care how much Ronnie weights , Dorian's waist isn't as narrow as Ronnies , their leg lengths and torso lengths are NOT the same it's a fan-boy fantasy on how Ronnie would be reality dictates otherwise
The proportions are masterful
LOL
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can anyone believe this shit?
its amazing how much bullshit can be typed on a post, yet none of it actually matches up to reality at all...
:-\
Hard to believe but Levrone thought he won the 95 O...
I feel I should have won the Olympia several times before,
especially in 1995, when I just didn't get it because Dorian Yates
was the reigning Mr. Olympia and it's hard for the judges to give
the show to someone else.
Flex Mag October 1999 Pg. 25
Hard to believe but Levrone thought he won the 95 O...
I feel I should have won the Olympia several times before,
especially in 1995, when I just didn't get it because Dorian Yates
was the reigning Mr. Olympia and it's hard for the judges to give
the show to someone else.
Flex Mag October 1999 Pg. 25
LOL
dorian 95 gets crushed by ronnie 99
no suprise to see why he didn't get it...
lol@photoshopped pics and fantasy comparison is the only way Ronnie beats Dorian '
Please find me the quotes saying Ronnie 99 was harder & drier than Dorian and I'll be waiting ;)
why do you need quotes when you have real life?:
oh thats right - you need a quote because real life owns you:
LOLAgain back up your claim we're all waiting , your words carry NO weight let's see what you can do to back up your empty claims ;)
soft in comparison LOL
::)
in real life everyone who seen both of them said Dorian's conditioning shits on Ronnie's especially 1999
Of course directly.
And I have seen him competing directly 1994 and 1996.
And I say
Dorian is not in the league of Ronnie.
Best Ronnie was from the outer space.
No competition.
wrong:
from: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=post;topic=253754.25;num_replies=39
dorian was not in ronnie's league - from someone who has seen them both live and in person..
next.
Again back up your claim we're all waiting , your words carry NO weight let's see what you can do to back up your empty claims ;)
you miss the point.
first of all, there is nowhere outside of this board where people are going to be comparing dorian's conditioning specifically to that of 99 ronnie's conditioning, so where do you expect to get a quote from? the 1995 issue of musclemag? LOL ::)
::)
secondly, what good is a quote that can be proven so easily to be wrong with a quick glance at reality?
eg. the best dorian ever had to offer and look what happens:
ronnie not only owns him in conditioning, he owns him everywhere..
try and bullshit your way out of this one:
oh, and I think Peter McGough stated that this version of dorian was in better shape than ronnie ever was..
and we can see how true that statement is LOL
of course, when you realize he was a good friend of dorian, you can see why he was being so stupid:
Thanks your the best player on my team. You just proved whoever said that stated Ronnie was the best.
haha good job hulkster! nd is melting quite bad!
Ronnie stated he couldn't beat Yates on multiple occasions he counts more than anyone you can get ;)
of course he is.
ND fears the reality of ronnie vs dorian:
WRONG!! This was early in his reign. What did Ronnie AND Yates say in the end? Let me help you: Ronnie would win.
you can't back up your point I can
Dorian beat Ronnie every single occasion they met
wrong - you cant back up your point with visuals - which is what counts in this sport..
I can.
you are basing your whole argument on one quote from a good friend of dorian - a quote that to be totally honest, is really really stupid..
saying that the precontest dorian was harder than ronnie at his best in contest shape?
LOL
and you are sad and stupid enough to buy it - even when the visuals clearly show it to be 100% false LOL
::)
I always laugh when you type reality and then proceed to post a fan-boy comparison
I love how ND dismisses all the comparisons where dorian loses - as 'fanboy' comparisons..i see it too...its quite sad
thats his tactic:
base everything on one quote
when you show the quote to be wrong via the visuals
he dismisses the visuals...
thus, in his mind, the quote still stands...
::)
see whats happening here?
I do.
I love how ND dismisses all the comparisons where dorian loses - as 'fanboy' comparisons..
thats his tactic:
base everything on one quote
when you show the quote to be wrong via the visuals
he dismisses the visuals...
thus, in his mind, the quote still stands...
::)
see whats happening here?
I do.
Hulkster following ND around like a puppy dog as usual lmfao
i see it too...its quite sad
I back up my claims with one single quote and dismiss all the pics and videos that show my quote to be bullshit
oh yeah, also note how he dismisses all screenshots of ronnie 1999 as photoshopped too..
another case of sweeping the evidence under the carpet to protect his bullshit argument..
here is the video everyone:
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
there are no photoshopped screenshots.
as you can see..
yup. ND is a sad delusional man..
Same shit nothing new , he's actually following you he sees red when the 1995 footage is posted he hates it when we posted the most muscular of Dorian 1995 he cried photoshopped lol that crushed him and his worked screencaps lol
fixed for accuracy..
Spot on. That loser can't keep out of a Yates thread. It's quite clear that no one ever came close to Yates combo of condition and size. That's backed up by the fact that Levrone posted on here that Yates was impossible to compete against, simply too dominant.
you post PHOTOSHOPPED screencaps
clearly you have never seen the 99 olympia prejudging video, have you?
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clearly you have never seen the 99 olympia prejudging video, have you?
::)
Keep out of Yates threads you little bitch.
wrong - you cant back up your point with visuals - which is what counts in this sport..
I can.
you are basing your whole argument on one quote from a good friend of dorian - a quote that to be totally honest, is really really stupid..
saying that the precontest dorian was harder than ronnie at his best in contest shape?
LOL
and you are sad and stupid enough to buy it - even when the visuals clearly show it to be 100% false LOL
Ronnie wins! OWNED!!!!!
BOOM!!!! YIP, YIP!!!!
Com’on guys are you blind..!!
Even Ronnie is not one of my “Top 6 Bodybuilders ever” but he is 100 times better than Dorian and there is no way to compare between them..!!
Dorian is really the most overrated bodybuilder of all time and jay cutler second to him.
By the way Kevin Levrone dominated Dorian at the 95 (as usual in 92,94,95,96 and 97)
Bull shit? one bicep is shorter than the other it could be worse it could be like this abortion , no no this isn't a MS Olympia contestant this the winner ::)
'Shorter' than the other, bwahahaha, his left one isn't even there!
Com’on guys are you blind..!!
Even Ronnie is not one of my “Top 6 Bodybuilders ever” but he is 100 times better than Dorian and there is no way to compare between them..!!
Dorian is really the most overrated bodybuilder of all time and jay cutler second to him.
By the way Kevin Levrone dominated Dorian at the 95 (as usual in 92,94,95,96 and 97)
'Shorter' than the other, bwahahaha, his left one isn't even there! In 2003 Ronnie had calves too, they just didn't match up to his quads, but they were still damn big. Dorian had the opposite of relatively small quads by today's standards that made his big calves look bigger.
A blanket statement proclaiming that Kevin dominates Dorian, hardly substantiates such a position. To make no mention that such a position is not substantiated by the photos you posted.
1. In the hands clasped most muscular pose, Kevin does not have the overall width of Yates, looking comparatively narrow. Kevin has huge delts, but they overpower his chest, a lot.
2. Kevin is known for great triceps, but loses the side triceps pose, badly. Dorian has vastly superior width and density from all angles, which is especially evident in this shot when things turn to the side. Kevin's incomplete development is glaring in this shot. Dorian has fully developed tie-ins between muscle groups so that his body parts flow together in unison. Kevin has select stand out body parts, that although making for a few impressive shots, does not make for a complete physique. A side triceps pose encompasses much more than merely comparing the triceps themselves.
3. ABS & Thighs: Kevin has a very good taper, showing a very athletic look. That being said, look how "thin" he looks next to Yates. Dorian's lats are far thicker and his chest is more prominent, where as Kevin's chest flattens out and disappears. To some, Kevin may "look" more pleasing, but Dorian is much more developed. It is plain to see.
4. I won't even mention back shots, as there is no need.
The aforementioned shots, along with those posted below illustrate the above points. Kevin, as accomplished as he is, looks like an amateur next to Dorian.
You sure know your shit !! right on the money as usual .
As they say, great minds think alike. ;D
LevrOWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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simple minds think alike
LevrOWNED ;D
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Hulkster is such a fucking moron. Dorian is utterly destroying Coleman 99' in every way possible except for taper, and even then it is close. It is not even debatable. Dorian simply destroys Ronnie. It's not even close.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Right on the money , 99 is a joke especially compared to when he was at his best never mind Dorian...the dummy can't even get what his best was right
I could write a lenghy multi-paragraph post explaining why Dorian 95' destroys Coleman 99', but that would go over Hulkster's head as usual, so there's no point to it. The bottom line is that Dorian is carrying more lean muscle with less muscular and structural liabilities, and that's all that bodybuilding is about. A neophyte might think that Ronnie is winning due to his rounder muscles and smaller waist, but a seasoned observer of physiques will clearly see that Dorian is more muscular and symmetrical and thus superior. The end.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Hulkster, Dorian really was the best ever. Why do you insist on arguing? Look at the photographic evidence and statements.
A blanket statement proclaiming that Kevin dominates Dorian, hardly substantiates such a position. To make no mention that such a position is not substantiated by the photos you posted.
1. In the hands clasped most muscular pose, Kevin does not have the overall width of Yates, looking comparatively narrow. Kevin has huge delts, but they overpower his chest, a lot.
2. Kevin is known for great triceps, but loses the side triceps pose, badly. Dorian has vastly superior width and density from all angles, which is especially evident in this shot when things turn to the side. Kevin's incomplete development is glaring in this shot. Dorian has fully developed tie-ins between muscle groups so that his body parts flow together in unison. Kevin has select stand out body parts, that although making for a few impressive shots, does not make for a complete physique. A side triceps pose encompasses much more than merely comparing the triceps themselves.
3. ABS & Thighs: Kevin has a very good taper, showing a very athletic look. That being said, look how "thin" he looks next to Yates. Dorian's lats are far thicker and his chest is more prominent, where as Kevin's chest flattens out and disappears. To some, Kevin may "look" more pleasing, but Dorian is much more developed. It is plain to see.
4. I won't even mention back shots, as there is no need.
The aforementioned shots, along with those posted below illustrate the above points. Kevin, as accomplished as he is, looks like an amateur next to Dorian.
I could write a lenghy multi-paragraph post explaining why Dorian 95' destroys Coleman 99'
Body Part Kevin Dorian
Biceps Better ( more developed) *only one small
Triceps Better ( more developed)
Forearms Better ( more developed)
Shoulders Better ( more developed)
Traps Better ( more developed)
Chest Better ( more developed)
Waist line Smaller (Better)
Quads &guy ( more developed)
Upper Back Same development Same development
Lower back Thicker ( more developed
Gluts Smaller and more cuts (Better)
Hamstrings Same development Same development
Calves &guy (more developed)
I See most of Kevin body parts is much developed that Dorian’s
Oh I forgot one thing that Dorian beat everyone in…
His POLITICS body part ;D
yes, you could.
too bad it would all be disproven by a 3 second glance at reality....
::)
you guys just don't get that your bullshit words are not supported in any way shape or form by real life:
::)
yes, you could.
too bad it would all be disproven by a 3 second glance at reality....
you guys just don't get that your bullshit words are not supported in any way shape or form by real life:
How the hell did Ronnie "win" in 2001? :-X Biggest gut ever and on stage in hanes underwear :-X
and you should understand that my opinion is based on the proper application of criteria on which this sport is based.
and it is understood by all apparently other than you, ND and your two bitches...depending on which ones are your own gimmick accounts of course..
eg. ronnie's arms, quads, taper etc are not better "only because I say so" they are better because the criteria that this sport is based on shows them to be so...
understand THAT.
aids man quads and arms are not crappy compared to ronnie because I say they are.
they are crappy by definition -apply the criteria properly and you come up with "they are crappy"
apply the criteria INcorrectly as you do, you come up with 'they are great' LOL
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oh really?
how did dorian "win" in 94? bigger gut than ronnie and only one arm.. :-X
PUSH IT YATES >:(
Dorian won easily it wasn't no close call either like Ronnie ;) and his gut wasn't as big at Ronnie's no way and where is Ronnie's TWO calves?
Ronnie wins! OWNED!!!!!
BOOM!!!! YIP, YIP!!!!
yes, you could.
too bad it would all be disproven by a 3 second glance at reality....
::)
you guys just don't get that your bullshit words are not supported in any way shape or form by real life:
::)
The best way to end this debate is to ask someone who has never see Ronnie or Yates and is not even a fan of bbing. Ask them which back looks bigger and better. 9 times out of 10 people will say Ronnies!!! ;)
The best way to end this debate is to ask someone who has never see Ronnie or Yates and is not even a fan of bbing. Ask them which back looks bigger and better. 9 times out of 10 people will say Ronnies!!! ;)
and you should understand that my opinion is based on the proper application of criteria on which this sport is based.
MattT is clearly racist as is Wiggs.ha ha ha ha don't forget bowling pin forearms that aren't in proportion with his biceps/triceps and a short torso and longish legs and an ass that can be seen in front poses
Also, Yates easily won the latest BB.com poll ;)
Worst leg balance ever
(http://www.geocities.com/ronniecolemantr/image/Ronnie_Coleman_20.jpg)
ha ha ha ha don't forget bowling pin forearms that aren't in proportion with his biceps/triceps and a short torso and longish legs and an ass that can be seen in front poses
MattT is clearly racist as is Wiggs.
Also, Yates easily won the latest BB.com poll ;)
Worst leg balance ever
(http://www.geocities.com/ronniecolemantr/image/Ronnie_Coleman_20.jpg)
So, asking someone who has absolutely no knowledge of the sport, or clue of how to adjudicate a physique is an accurate way to decide who is better? ::) That's some logic.
Ronnie getting a massive owning by the Awesome One! It's not even close.
Ronnie's back that year was supposed to be the widest ever but look at the difference in lat width , Ronnie's look smaller than Haney's just look at how much of the lats can be seen and look at how his lats insert into his torso there is a natural transition and Ronnie's looks like they've been stopped no flow and look at the difference in pecs
Haney by a long shot
Exactly! It seems in vogue today to associate improvement with higher body weights. Whatever happened to quality? Sure, Ronnie was huge in 2003. Big deal. A much lighter Haney is taking him to school.
I always laugh when people say 2003 was his best , it just screams ignorance ...he was impressive as fuck but his best not by a long shot , conditioning sucked , balance & `proportion sucked , gut was atrocious
That shot of Ronnie is illustrative of one of the most unbalanced physiques of all time. It's ironic that the Coleman trolls fixate on a torn bicep, when their hero is so astonishingly unbalanced. Haney so outclasses Ronnie, it's not even funny. If 1995 Yates had lined up against 2003 Ronnie, the bloated Texan would have been left for dead.
I agree these guys harp on the bicep and Ronnie has a host of proportion issues starting right at the bottom calves way you small and not even fully developed for his quads , glutes that can be seen in from poses , how is this proportionate? along legs short torso , forearms shaped like bowling pins and not in proportion with his biceps/triceps , especially in 2003 hams not in proportion with his quads this is evident in profile the whole side of the leg looks like a 90/10 split between the hams and quads that's not proportion , but they're willing to overlook at his because he's so massive lol idiots don't have a clue on how contests are judged
When the trolls see the shot of Haney destroying Ronnie, it'll be meltdown city. ;D
Ronnie's back that year was supposed to be the widest ever but look at the difference in lat width , Ronnie's look smaller than Haney's just look at how much of the lats can be seen and look at how his lats insert into his torso there is a natural transition and Ronnie's looks like they've been stopped no flow and look at the difference in pecs
haney by a long shot
The hugeness of Coleman's back in 2003 is a myth. Sure, it was enormous, but it had no more size than Dorian's at 270 lbs or so or that of Jean-Pierre Fux. I have a picture from the 2004 Olympia when Ronnie's back was even wider of Ronnie and Jay doing the rear lat spread and Jayis more than holihis own against Coleman even though he was 272 lbs vs Ronnie's 296 lbs. Here is Peter McGough's statement regarding the rear lat spreads of Ronnie and Jay in that contest:
""What's it gona be, Big Man?", Triple H inquires. "Rear-lat lghts-out-game-over spread", the reigning champ asserts. Many in attendance immediately realized the tactical error Coloeman had made. Could he win the pose? He could. Was it a garanteed "game over"? Not by a long shot."
If Cutler can give Coleman at his biggest ever a run for his money in terms of lat width, then Dorian at 260lbs could certainly match Ronnie 2003 in this criteria as well. Frankly, Dorian and Jay are roughly the same in terms of lat width, so you need to be deluded to believe that Ronnie 2003 would make Dorian look small in the lat department. Dorian's lats would give Ronnie's a run for their money in terms of width just like Jay's, but with the added bonus of having vastly superior definition and hardness. Ronnie's back looks wider than it truly is because his waist is smaller and also because his lats attach higher. The higher attachment gives the lats more sweep, which, oddly enough, adds to the illusion of size to the lats. Remember that Coleman's massive size increase from 2002 to 2003 was mostly quads and gut.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
This is a great shot (1996?). Look how balanced Dorian is from head to toe!
(http://www.builtreport.com/yates/076.jpg)
When the trolls see the shot of Haney destroying Ronnie, it'll be meltdown city. ;D
LOL ND and his own gimmick account are verbally blowing each other... :-X
Haney destroying Ronnie?
where?
::)
where?
ronnie is like Lee Haney on steroids 8)
Ummm in the pic Mr1derful posted Haney IS destroying Ronnie. You just ignore that and post different shots. Yes thats just one shot but the fact is Haney looks better.\
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absolutely in other shots NO in that particular shot Haney all the way
dorian getting owned from the back by nasser
Ummm in the pic Mr1derful posted Haney IS destroying Ronnie.
Funny because in reality he's not destroying Coleman at all-an empty statement that's not verified by the evidence provided. ND and gimmicks firing blanks again. ;)
Here you have the worst MM in BB history (rivaled by the keg's) followed by arguably the best.
First off I'm no gimmick. I'm on several other boards. Second you posted the wrong pic. We are talking about one pic and one shot and it isn't of a most muscular. Figure out what is being discussed before you offer your opinion.
First off I'm no gimmick. I'm on several other boards. Second you posted the wrong pic. We are talking about one pic and one shot and it isn't of a most muscular. Figure out what is being discussed before you offer your opinion.
Bwa ha ha!!!!! Pumpster owned!!!!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
lol pumpster the troll owned again
Second you posted the wrong pic. We are talking about one pic and one shot and it isn't of a most muscular
At least in retreat she doesn't once again stoop to name-calling hahahaahaha she's all class as usual. How's your family doin genius?
FYI the title of the thread isn't about that particular pose you blockhead hahaha you definitely qualify as as sucky/ND stooge with your confused reasoning. ;)
Hope this helps.
Funny because in reality he's not destroying Coleman at all-an empty statement that's not verified by the evidence provided. ND and gimmicks firing blanks again. ;)
Ronnie's back that year was supposed to be the widest ever but look at the difference in lat width , Ronnie's look smaller than Haney's just look at how much of the lats can be seen and look at how his lats insert into his torso there is a natural transition and Ronnie's looks like they've been stopped no flow and look at the difference in pecs
haney by a long shot
Above is the analysis that ND posted as to why Haney is far better than Coleman in the shot. Hardly an empty statement. An empty statement is you disagreeing, simply for the sake of disagreeing. I have yet to note an explanation for your viewpoint, perhaps because it is baseless, as always. If we are so very wrong in our assessments, please enlighten us as to how Coleman is not getting utterly destroyed in this shot. We are all eagerly awaiting your analysis.
Meltdown during massive pumpster obsession.
FYI "sucky" still claims a 620 bench and is proven as mentally unstable lol
Weak. This is the first time in over a year that I reply to one of your posts. Just pointing out the owning you received. Nothing wrong with that. You criticized the guy for something he didn't even claim, and that qualifies as a self-ownage.
It was 610 lbs for a single with the help of a benching shirt when I was on steroids. And mentally unstable? You're the guy who wishes a guy to be dead in the place of his deceased sister, not me. Pumpy, you are the queen of meltdowns. :-X
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I can't believe this is still going on.
It's evident Dorian at his best defeats Coleman.
At least in retreat she doesn't once again stoop to name-calling hahahaahaha she's all class as usual. How's your family doin genius?
FYI the title of the thread isn't about that particular pose you blockhead hahaha you definitely qualify as as sucky/ND stooge with your confused reasoning. ;)
Hope this helps.
:o
Coleman had moments in his career where he stood out from the pack, without a doubt. The 1998 Olympia and 2001 Arnold are the best examples. That being said, the larger he became in his pursuit of all out mass, the less and less quality he displayed. Haney truly came from the era of mass with class. Lee, unlike Ronnie, never deviated from the qualities that made him the best. Which is why you won't see photos of Lee not looking every bit the champion he was. A stark contrast to the myriad of photos like the ones below, that illustrate how very far Ronnie fell from his peak form.