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Title: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 01:06:23 PM
Emanuel, Geithner, Axelrod,Summers, etc etc.  I will make a list with more info in a little bit.


Anyone wonder who this guy is taking orders from?
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Dan-O on December 23, 2008, 01:19:43 PM
Emanuel, Geithner, Axelrod,Summers, etc etc.  I will make a list with more info in a little bit.


Anyone wonder who this guy is taking orders from?

He's taking orders from the American people, of course, as our duly elected President.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 01:22:02 PM
He's taking orders from the American people, of course, as our duly elected President.
lol! ;D good one.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Fury on December 23, 2008, 01:30:24 PM
Why do people need to make gimmicks to bash Jews. Are they really that insecure? I bash blacks and Muslims like Hugo on my main account.  :)
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 01:31:54 PM
Why do people need to make gimmicks to bash Jews. Are they really that insecure? I bash blacks and Muslims like Hugo on my main account.  :)
im not a gimmick and how am i bashing jews?  should we just ignore the power they wield and extremely destructive effect they have/had on this country and the entire world?
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Fury on December 23, 2008, 01:33:53 PM
im not a gimmick and how am i bashing jews?  should we just ignore the power they wield and extremely destructive effect they have/had on this country and the entire world?

Not every politician is out to further the Israeli agenda. Just because they're Jewish doesn't mean they're out there to further their "cause". Not every guy of English descent is out there looking to further the English cause and not every Asian dude is out there to further the Asian cause.

You're a gimmick. No one registers on a BODYBUILDING forum and spends their first 10 posts talking about jews. Entertaining, nonetheless.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Hedgehog on December 23, 2008, 01:38:31 PM
Why do people need to make gimmicks to bash Jews. Are they really that insecure? I bash blacks and Muslims like Hugo on my main account.  :)

I have no idea.

What's up with the "Jew" thing by the way?

I don't like how Zionists in Israel refuses to work for a solution with the Palestine, or to even treat them humanely.

But the whole "Jewish conspiracy in USA" bullshit is just old.

"Jews" in Obama's cabinet? Big fcuking deal.

BTW, what would happen if they were Atheists?

Would they still be considered part of the "Jewish conspiracy"? ::)

Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 01:41:13 PM
I have no idea.

What's up with the "Jew" thing by the way?

I don't like how Zionists in Israel refuses to work for a solution with the Palestine, or to even treat them humanely.

But the whole "Jewish conspiracy in USA" bullshit is just old.

"Jews" in Obama's cabinet? Big fcuking deal.

BTW, what would happen if they were Atheists?

Would they still be considered part of the "Jewish conspiracy"? ::)


what conspiracy hedge?  id like to address what you feel is a conspiracy if you can give me specifics.
BTW, their religion has nothing to do with anything.  Im speaking of jews who belong to the ashkenazi tribe(90%+)
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Decker on December 23, 2008, 01:50:10 PM
White Men! White women!

The Jew is using the black as muscle against you.

And you are left there helpless.

Well, what are you going to do about it, whitey?

Just sit there? Of course not. You, are going to join with us. The members of the White peoples party. An organisation of decent, law abiding white folk. Just like you.


Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: a_joker10 on December 23, 2008, 01:54:47 PM
what conspiracy hedge?  id like to address what you feel is a conspiracy if you can give me specifics.
BTW, their religion has nothing to do with anything.  Im speaking of jews who belong to the ashkenazi tribe(90%+)

Obviously you believe in a conspiracy.
I imagine it is the same one that many members on this website are members of.
The Anti-Zionist, freemason fearing, 9/11 conspiracy believing, one world government loathing, tin foil hat wearing clan.

By the way almost all Jews in America are part of the Ashkenazi tribe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jew
Although in the 11th century they comprised only 3% of the world's Jewish population, Ashkenazi Jews accounted for (at their highest) 92% of the world's Jews in 1931 and today make up approximately 80% of Jews worldwide.[3] Most Jewish communities with extended histories in Europe are Ashkenazim, with the exception of those associated with the Mediterranean region. The majority of the Jews who migrated from Europe to other continents in the past two centuries are Ashkenazim, Eastern Ashkenazim in particular. This is especially true in the United States, where 6 out of the 7 million American Jewish population — the largest Jewish population in the world when consistent statistical parameters are employed[4] — is Ashkenazi, representing the world's single largest concentration of Ashkenazim.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Hedgehog on December 23, 2008, 01:57:05 PM
what conspiracy hedge?  id like to address what you feel is a conspiracy if you can give me specifics.
BTW, their religion has nothing to do with anything.  Im speaking of jews who belong to the ashkenazi tribe(90%+)


Thanks.

I was referring to the idea that there is a protocol for "world domination" by Jews.

Or that these "Jews" have some secret network where they pull their strings to make things happen.

What I do believe, is that people with a Jewish heritage naturally are more prone to be supportive of the state of Israel.

Something which makes sense, Israel has worked hard to create a "Jewish" identity, eg Israel will welcome anyone who is considered a "Jew" as a citizen of Israel.

So with this in mind, politicians with a "Jew" heritage are bound to be supportive of the Israel cause to a bigger or lesser extent.

However, IMO the whole idea of "Jewishness" is largely something created, by the radical Zionists who wanted to secure the existance of their home Israel.

But I don't believ there is an organized conspiracy.

Nor do I believe that there will be any political consequences in the Obama cabinet - other than perhaps/probably in the Israel issue.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 02:00:34 PM
Obviously you believe in a conspiracy.
I imagine it is the same one that many members on this website are members of.
The Anti-Zionist, freemason fearing, 9/11 conspiracy believing, one world government loathing, tin foil hat wearing clan.

nope, sorry, you have the wrong impression.
try doing a little research into who controls all our media, AIPAC stranglehold over our politicians, bolshevik revolution in russia, etc, etc.
nothing i say is a conspiracy, it's based on facts, feel free to refute anything i say with facts.

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By the way almost all Jews in America are part of the Ashkenazi tribe.
thank you for repeating exactly what i said.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: a_joker10 on December 23, 2008, 02:13:31 PM
nope, sorry, you have the wrong impression.
try doing a little research into who controls all our media, AIPAC stranglehold over our politicians, bolshevik revolution in russia, etc, etc.
nothing i say is a conspiracy, it's based on facts, feel free to refute anything i say with facts.

Yep thats the same conspiracy.

Karl Marx whom renounced being a Jew and wanted a ban on religion, was part of a great Jew conspiracy.

Give me a break.

By the way the only people controlling media are the content users. If you don't like something don't watch it or fund a company that will broadcast you message.

Good luck though. The tin foil hat community of Jew haters will not listen because they will think you are part of the great conspiracy.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 02:16:27 PM
Thanks.

I was referring to the idea that there is a protocol for "world domination" by Jews.
that is debatable...i focus on current and historical effects jews have on the US & the world.  IE, financing of the bolshevik revolution in russia by jews, USSR ruling body almost 100% jewish in its inception.  these are all facts, i suppose you can disagree that is a 'jewish conspiracy'.  jewish control over financial institutions, media, power of the AIPAC lobby over US politicians, thought crimes in europe regarding the holocaust, etc.  
i think its silly to deny the influence they wield and the mostly negative consequences of it.

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Or that these "Jews" have some secret network where they pull their strings to make things happen.
there are countless organizations where jewish elites meet with each other, obviously they are going to discuss furthering their common agenda, whatever it may be, you can rest assured that it isnt to benefit their host countries.

Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 02:26:59 PM
Yep thats the same conspiracy.

Karl Marx whom renounced being a Jew and wanted a ban on religion, was part of a great Jew conspiracy.

Give me a break.
ok.  let me ask you, do you deny the bolshevik revolution being funded by jews, and do you deny that 95%+ of the top officials in the USSR were jews?  just a coincidence?  regardless of whether it was a 'conspiracy' or not, you cant deny that jews were behind the bolshevik revolution in USSR unless you are against facts.

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By the way the only people controlling media are the content users. If you don't like something don't watch it or fund a company that will broadcast you message.
bullshit.  sure, 'content users' can decide whether they like NBCs sitcoms more than ABCs or whether they like larry king more than bill oreilly, that is completely irrelevant.  the media shapes public opinion.  whatever they want you to hear, you will hear, whatever they dont want you to hear, you wont hear, however they want to twist something, they will twist it.  americans have zero access to free non-propaganda information in the MSM with the jewish monopoly, there is no alternative.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: a_joker10 on December 23, 2008, 02:39:42 PM
ok.  let me ask you, do you deny the bolshevik revolution being funded by jews, and do you deny that 95%+ of the top officials in the USSR were jews?  just a coincidence?  regardless of whether it was a 'conspiracy' or not, you cant deny that jews were behind the bolshevik revolution in USSR unless you are against facts.
Actually I don't care about Russia, the toppling of one of the most corrupt regimes in history should have been a good thing. Too bad the nutjobs that did it hated religion and were afraid everyone was out to get them. Both Lenin and Stalin weren't jews and they lead USSR. Stalin hated jews and tried to kill or export as many as they could.
bullshit.  sure, 'content users' can decide whether they like NBCs sitcoms more than ABCs or whether they like larry king more than bill oreilly, that is completely irrelevant.  the media shapes public opinion.  whatever they want you to hear, you will hear, whatever they dont want you to hear, you wont hear, however they want to twist something, they will twist it.  americans have zero access to free non-propoganda information in the MSM with the jewish monopoly.
You managed to be come enlightened about the grand plotting of Jews so there must some access to their plotting. If people want free access to all the information in the world, they can go the public library and use the internet for free.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 02:52:44 PM
Actually I don't care about Russia, the toppling of one of the most corrupt regimes in history should have been a good thing. Too bad the nutjobs that did it hated religion and were afraid everyone was out to get them. Both Lenin and Stalin weren't jews and they lead USSR. Stalin hated jews and tried to kill or export as many as they could.
you didnt answer any of my questions.  also, lenin was 1/4 jew and a jew sympathizer.  stalins regime was different than the founding 95%+ jewish and jewish funded bolshevik regime of USSR, but he did marry 3 jewesses.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: a_joker10 on December 23, 2008, 04:08:49 PM
you didnt answer any of my questions.  also, lenin was 1/4 jew and a jew sympathizer.  stalins regime was different than the founding 95%+ jewish and jewish funded bolshevik regime of USSR, but he did marry 3 jewesses.

There is no such thing as 1/4 jewish.
You either are a jew or your not.

Lenin was a christian for the first part of his life before becoming an atheist.

The most ironic part of these posts is that you are posting on a Jewish run website and that you complain about jews controlling the media.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 05:04:43 PM
There is no such thing as 1/4 jewish.
You either are a jew or your not.
im talking about ashkenazi jews.  they are a race and have race specific diseases.  askenazis are racial supremacists, this is about a race of people, not their religion, atheist or not.   converts are irrelevant and not considered real jews by the jewish supremacists.

have you ever read the talmud or the protocols of zion?
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2008, 06:35:31 PM
i dont' care who he has in his cabinet.  if they can un-fvck the current economic and war situation, then i'm happy.

Anyway, it sounds like he's hiring very experienced people.  He's taking heat for hiring people with experience in the Beltway (more of the same!) but honestly, you can't just change things on day 1.  there is a learning curve - you LEARN how to do the job, then you are able to redefine the current situation.  He's hiring people who already KNOW how to do the job.

Hell, you can't build a BETTER mousetrap, until you understand how the initial crappy mousetraps operate.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: TechnoViking on December 23, 2008, 10:28:59 PM
Thanks.

I was referring to the idea that there is a protocol for "world domination" by Jews.

Or that these "Jews" have some secret network where they pull their strings to make things happen.

What I do believe, is that people with a Jewish heritage naturally are more prone to be supportive of the state of Israel.

Something which makes sense, Israel has worked hard to create a "Jewish" identity, eg Israel will welcome anyone who is considered a "Jew" as a citizen of Israel.

So with this in mind, politicians with a "Jew" heritage are bound to be supportive of the Israel cause to a bigger or lesser extent.

However, IMO the whole idea of "Jewishness" is largely something created, by the radical Zionists who wanted to secure the existence of their home Israel.

But I don't believe there is an organized conspiracy.

Nor do I believe that there will be any political consequences in the Obama cabinet - other than perhaps/probably in the Israel issue.

Will you admit that most Jews only marry and mate with other Jews? And are looked down upon if they go outside there race? And why are they against cross breding with there own kind yet push through there controlled media interbreding with all the other races?
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: TechnoViking on December 23, 2008, 10:35:04 PM
There is no such thing as 1/4 jewish.
You either are a jew or your not.

Lenin was a christian for the first part of his life before becoming an atheist.

The most ironic part of these posts is that you are posting on a Jewish run website and that you complain about jews controlling the media.

And to think that African American's are complaining to the white football alums/about not having enough representation of black college coaches :-\
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 23, 2008, 10:42:12 PM
Will you admit that most Jews only marry and mate with other Jews? And are looked down upon if they go outside there race? And why are they against cross breding with there own kind yet push through there controlled media interbreding with all the other races?

Why do you keep making gimmicks? You have one for 9/11 and one for your anti Jew agenda.

Anyway, you have NO idea what you're talking about, I guess there aren't many Jewish people in your trailer park so you are just being fed by your local KKK meeting.

You should stop making conspiracy theories and try to write books, you have such a fertile imagination, you might finally make enough money to get out of the trailer park with some good books.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Fury on December 23, 2008, 10:47:21 PM
I have no idea.

What's up with the "Jew" thing by the way?

I don't like how Zionists in Israel refuses to work for a solution with the Palestine, or to even treat them humanely.

But the whole "Jewish conspiracy in USA" bullshit is just old.

"Jews" in Obama's cabinet? Big fcuking deal.

BTW, what would happen if they were Atheists?

Would they still be considered part of the "Jewish conspiracy"? ::)



I don't agree with it either, but as long as Hamas is hellbent on launching rockets at civilians, it's never going to change. Why is it so hard for these groups to stop attacking civilians and diplomatically discuss things? I think it wasn't even a week after the latest cease fire was agreed to that rockets were being launched across the border. Why treat these groups like adults when they can't even honor their word? They're both at fault for the Palestinian people with their constant bullshit. Fatah and Israel seem to be getting along fairly well, which is probably due to the fact that Fatah stopped attacking civilians and started taking a diplomatic approach to the situation.

It's a never ending pissing contest. Hamas launches 50 rockets at Israeli civilians. Israel blows up the house the rockets were launched from, and it just repeats itself.

Will you admit that most Jews only marry and mate with other Jews? And are looked down upon if they go outside there race? And why are they against cross breding with there own kind yet push through there controlled media interbreding with all the other races?

How is that different from most other races? Most Asians frown upon marriages outside of their races just like blacks and whoever else. A number of Muslims will disown and even murder their family members for even talking to non-Muslims, let alone marrying them. Is it somehow different from jews because they're jews?

By the way, if you're going to try make a point, you might want to learn to distinguish between "there" and "their".
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: TechnoViking on December 23, 2008, 10:51:30 PM
Why do you keep making gimmicks? You have one for 9/11 and one for your anti Jew agenda.

Anyway, you have NO idea what you're talking about, I guess there aren't many Jewish people in your trailer park so you are just being fed by your local KKK meeting.

You should stop making conspiracy theories and try to write books, you have such a fertile imagination, you might finally make enough money to get out of the trailer park with some good books.

Here lies the problem...Saying Jews control the media or the banks or marry their own kind is seen as Anti/jew...Why the fuck is that? Are you suggesting that most Jewish people don't marry other Jews? That is all I was stating in my post...FYI, I think jews are the smartest people to walk the planet...I have zero hate towards them...TViking is my only "gimmick" I'm running...
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: TechnoViking on December 23, 2008, 11:01:05 PM


How is that different from most other races? Most Asians frown upon marriages outside of their races just like blacks and whoever else.



outside of their races? or outside of their race?

Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Fury on December 23, 2008, 11:04:37 PM
outside of their races? or outside of their race?



I don't understand your post. But most Korean families will shun or look down upon anyone who marries someone who isn't Korean. Same for most of the other Asian countries. Some Muslims will kill their own family members for even talking to a non-Muslim, let alone marrying one. Black/White interracial marriages are frowned upon by a lot of people. A lot of Christians want their kids to marry other Christians. Muslims are pretty much only allowed to marry other muslims. How is this different from jews wanting their kin to marry other jews? Is it ok for everyone else because they're not jews?

Like 240 said, if they're qualified to do the job, who gives a fuck what their religion is. I'd rather have the economy fixed than having Obama fill his cabinet in accordance with the demographics of the US population.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 23, 2008, 11:35:30 PM
I don't agree with it either, but as long as Hamas is hellbent on launching rockets at civilians, it's never going to change. Why is it so hard for these groups to stop attacking civilians and diplomatically discuss things? I think it wasn't even a week after the latest cease fire was agreed to that rockets were being launched across the border. Why treat these groups like adults when they can't even honor their word? They're both at fault for the Palestinian people with their constant bullshit. Fatah and Israel seem to be getting along fairly well, which is probably due to the fact that Fatah stopped attacking civilians and started taking a diplomatic approach to the situation.

It's a never ending pissing contest. Hamas launches 50 rockets at Israeli civilians. Israel blows up the house the rockets were launched from, and it just repeats itself.

i suggest anyone who is not informed about the history of israel and the israeli/palestinian conflict watch this video, a fair and balanced documentary showing the side you will never be allowed to see in the zionist controlled media. 

israel deserves zero sympathy. you steal peoples land,homes, make them prisoner in their own homeland, kill them, abuse them, treat them like dirt,you destroy all their lives and back these poor powerless victims into a corner, yet you expect them to sit back and take it, play victim and act surprised when these powerless oppressed people lash out in desperation and fight back.  israel is a terrorist state, hamas is courageously fighting these demons.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: TechnoViking on December 23, 2008, 11:40:43 PM
I don't understand your post. But most Korean families will shun or look down upon anyone who marries someone who isn't Korean. Same for most of the other Asian countries. Some Muslims will kill their own family members for even talking to a non-Muslim, let alone marrying one. Black/White interracial marriages are frowned upon by a lot of people. A lot of Christians want their kids to marry other Christians. Muslims are pretty much only allowed to marry other muslims. How is this different from jews wanting their kin to marry other jews? Is it ok for everyone else because they're not jews?

Like 240 said, if they're qualified to do the job, who gives a fuck what their religion is. I'd rather have the economy fixed than having Obama fill his cabinet in accordance with the demographics of the US population.

Blacks/Koreans/Muslims/Christians will tell you why they want to marry into their own race yet Jews will call you an anti Semite for bringing it up to them or anyone else...
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 24, 2008, 12:08:12 AM
Blacks/Koreans/Muslims/Christians will tell you why they want to marry into their own race yet Jews will call you an anti Semite for bringing it up to them or anyone else...

When you say that in the same sentence with conspiracy theories it's truly anti Semitic.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Nordic Superman on December 24, 2008, 01:32:48 AM
Blacks/Koreans/Muslims/Christians will tell you why they want to marry into their own race yet Jews will call you an anti Semite for bringing it up to them or anyone else...

Muzzies / Christians aren't races.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: garebear on December 24, 2008, 02:29:51 AM
Yep thats the same conspiracy.

Karl Marx whom renounced being a Jew and wanted a ban on religion, was part of a great Jew conspiracy.

Give me a break.

By the way the only people controlling media are the content users. If you don't like something don't watch it or fund a company that will broadcast you message.

Good luck though. The tin foil hat community of Jew haters will not listen because they will think you are part of the great conspiracy.
Are you the guy that had the 12 hour meltdown after Obama was elected? The meltdown that had the n word like 100 times?
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: One on December 24, 2008, 02:33:04 AM
Are you the guy that had the 12 hour meltdown after Obama was elected? The meltdown that had the n word like 100 times?
i think that was USA-joke ofthe world
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: spotter on December 24, 2008, 06:00:22 AM
Emanuel, Geithner, Axelrod,Summers, etc etc.  I will make a list with more info in a little bit.


Anyone wonder who this guy is taking orders from?


"thanks for pointing this out to us"!!! :-X   "Remind me to scratch kosher salt off my shopping list"!
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: pumphard on December 24, 2008, 06:44:14 AM
Why do people need to make gimmicks to bash Jews. Are they really that insecure? I bash blacks and Muslims like Hugo on my main account.  :)
Could it be because you're Jewish................
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Hedgehog on December 24, 2008, 09:38:11 AM
i suggest anyone who is not informed about the history of israel and the israeli/palestinian conflict watch this video, a fair and balanced documentary showing the side you will never be allowed to see in the zionist controlled media


I disagree with the description of the media as "controlled" by Zionists.

First of all, just because a person is "Jewish", doesn't make that person a Zionist. You don't have to be "Jewish" to be a Zionist either.

Zionism is a political ideology with the primary idea of forming and preserving Israel as the homeland for all "Jews" in the world.

IMHO, the word Zionist and Zionism have been used by political whackos to describe what they conceive as a "Jewish" conspiracy to dominate, politically and financially.

The media image of the Israel/Palestine conflict is IMO quite tilted in favor of the Israelis.

But that isn't because of "Zionists" controlling the media, but rather depends on a few other facts:

1. Israel were created by the West. Making Israel looking bad isn't in our interest.

2. Israelis are in charge and controls where journalists can go. And journalists are a lazy bunch who much prefer getting fed written statements rather than doing honest investigative job.

3. Israelis, no matter how you look at it, are easier to relate to. Israel is a functioning democracy (except that tiny "Palestine" matter).

4. Some people will see support of Israel from a strategic point of view, considering it a beacon in a sea of dictatures and theocracies.


FWIW, I support both an Israelian and a Palestinian state. I don't see anything but a split of the land area as a long-time solutíon.


Claiming that Zionism is something else than a political ideology is rubbish though.

Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 24, 2008, 11:07:57 AM
I disagree with the description of the media as "controlled" by Zionists.

First of all, just because a person is "Jewish", doesn't make that person a Zionist. You don't have to be "Jewish" to be a Zionist either.

Zionism is a political ideology with the primary idea of forming and preserving Israel as the homeland for all "Jews" in the world.

IMHO, the word Zionist and Zionism have been used by political whackos to describe what they conceive as a "Jewish" conspiracy to dominate, politically and financially.

The media image of the Israel/Palestine conflict is IMO quite tilted in favor of the Israelis.

But that isn't because of "Zionists" controlling the media, but rather depends on a few other facts:

1. Israel were created by the West. Making Israel looking bad isn't in our interest.

2. Israelis are in charge and controls where journalists can go. And journalists are a lazy bunch who much prefer getting fed written statements rather than doing honest investigative job.

3. Israelis, no matter how you look at it, are easier to relate to. Israel is a functioning democracy (except that tiny "Palestine" matter).

4. Some people will see support of Israel from a strategic point of view, considering it a beacon in a sea of dictatures and theocracies.


FWIW, I support both an Israelian and a Palestinian state. I don't see anything but a split of the land area as a long-time solutíon.


Claiming that Zionism is something else than a political ideology is rubbish though.



You got things kind of twisted.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Hedgehog on December 24, 2008, 12:09:26 PM
You got things kind of twisted.

I don't mind you correcting me.

However, don't bother if you're gonna babble about "Jews" having some sort of secret agenda to control the world.

I simply don't believe in that.

Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: 240 is Back on December 24, 2008, 09:28:25 PM
Why do you keep making gimmicks? You have one for 9/11 and one for your anti Jew agenda.

Anyway

I hope you're not insinuating I am that guy.

I've actually argued the need for an allie in Israel, as it allows us MAD with Russia and middle eastern nations.  If a nuke goes off in the USA, you can rest assured we'll be delivering plenty of them back at capital cities in the middle east in return, and isr will be key in that.  And if russia ever takes us out, they know they'll have a volley of misiles coming from ISR up their ass before their birds even land here.

We give them a lot of money, but we do spend more in reconstruciton efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq than we do on isr, and those 2 nations hate us.

Please, if you want to argue with me, then argue with me.  Don't try assigning gimmicks to me, particularly those who I disagree with.  this is a non-issue for me - we need ISR and they need us. 
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 24, 2008, 11:16:29 PM
I hope you're not insinuating I am that guy.

I've actually argued the need for an allie in Israel, as it allows us MAD with Russia and middle eastern nations.  If a nuke goes off in the USA, you can rest assured we'll be delivering plenty of them back at capital cities in the middle east in return, and isr will be key in that.  And if russia ever takes us out, they know they'll have a volley of misiles coming from ISR up their ass before their birds even land here.

We give them a lot of money, but we do spend more in reconstruciton efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq than we do on isr, and those 2 nations hate us.

Please, if you want to argue with me, then argue with me.  Don't try assigning gimmicks to me, particularly those who I disagree with.  this is a non-issue for me - we need ISR and they need us. 

Consider yourself the Israel of this board, you get blamed with everything :P
BTW Israel = IL and not ISR.

I don't know about a world nuclear war as you speak of, that concept is long gone if you ask me, sane nations don't want the world to be turned into dust, even Russia is somewhat sane.

I support Israel too, I also know that TONS of info about the funds Israel gets is WRONG.
For example:

Money for military usage, most of it isn't given as money but as a discount if they BUY other equipment or delivering old equipment that is getting out of circulation. The US military spends allot and replace it's hardware sooner than any other in the world. The last example is actually a bypass of direct budget to get more money into the weapon industry since the US military alone can't support it so they get all kind of creative methods to create new contracts, by replacing equipment or giving funds from other budgets to allied nations to buy equipment.

Also, remember that the most valuable resource in the world is human resources and Israel have lot's of high quality people, there are lots of joint government/private businesses/research groups/weapon developments with Israel.
Don't take this factor lithely, assume that the US will have a very negative stance with Israel, large portions of the Jewish community all over the world will turn away from the US and that's something you don't want, that an amazing human resource group.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: a_joker10 on December 25, 2008, 07:05:37 AM
Are you the guy that had the 12 hour meltdown after Obama was elected? The meltdown that had the n word like 100 times?
You my griend are an idiot.
Check my posts, click on my user name and check previous posts, I have never used a racial term on this site.
Nice try at deflection though.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Nordic Superman on December 25, 2008, 08:36:56 AM
I hope you're not insinuating I am that guy.

I've actually argued the need for an allie in Israel, as it allows us MAD with Russia and middle eastern nations.  If a nuke goes off in the USA, you can rest assured we'll be delivering plenty of them back at capital cities in the middle east in return, and isr will be key in that.  And if russia ever takes us out, they know they'll have a volley of misiles coming from ISR up their ass before their birds even land here.

We give them a lot of money, but we do spend more in reconstruciton efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq than we do on isr, and those 2 nations hate us.

Please, if you want to argue with me, then argue with me.  Don't try assigning gimmicks to me, particularly those who I disagree with.  this is a non-issue for me - we need ISR and they need us. 

Wow you're bright, you have the whole scenario worked out. Of course Russia wouldn't think of Israel attacking them as a retaliation from nuking the US... jeez, I just hope now that the Russian Federation doesn't read your post to work out that they need to prepare for Israel, cause if they do we're all kaput!
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 25, 2008, 11:46:56 AM
You my griend are an idiot.
Check my posts, click on my user name and check previous posts, I have never used a racial term on this site.
Nice try at deflection though.

He just wants your attention, he PM me after I reminded the community about his flaming gayness...I guess he thought I'm a gay like him.

Be careful, he starts as your enemy and then try to hit on you....I guess that turns him on  :-\
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: freespirit on December 25, 2008, 11:58:55 AM
He's taking orders from the American people, of course, as our duly elected President.

Good joke, ha ha. 
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Dos Equis on December 25, 2008, 12:42:44 PM
Are you the guy that had the 12 hour meltdown after Obama was elected? The meltdown that had the n word like 100 times?

What?  No.  Joker is the one brings the facts and common sense to every thread he participates in on this board.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Hedgehog on December 26, 2008, 07:16:49 AM
I don't agree with it either, but as long as Hamas is hellbent on launching rockets at civilians, it's never going to change. Why is it so hard for these groups to stop attacking civilians and diplomatically discuss things? I think it wasn't even a week after the latest cease fire was agreed to that rockets were being launched across the border. Why treat these groups like adults when they can't even honor their word? They're both at fault for the Palestinian people with their constant bullshit. Fatah and Israel seem to be getting along fairly well, which is probably due to the fact that Fatah stopped attacking civilians and started taking a diplomatic approach to the situation.

It's a never ending pissing contest. Hamas launches 50 rockets at Israeli civilians. Israel blows up the house the rockets were launched from, and it just repeats itself.

How is that different from most other races? Most Asians frown upon marriages outside of their races just like blacks and whoever else. A number of Muslims will disown and even murder their family members for even talking to non-Muslims, let alone marrying them. Is it somehow different from jews because they're jews?

By the way, if you're going to try make a point, you might want to learn to distinguish between "there" and "their".


Hamas is a terrorist organisation.

I don't think people in general understand how fcuked up they are.

But as long as Israel cuts down the possibilities for regular Palestines to make a living or to travel free to trade, Hamas will be their only way of not starving.

Because Hamas has plenty of money.

And here is where it gets real perverted - the money is Saudi.

Yes, the very same Saudi family that's been friends with the Bush family for generations and now rules Saudi Arabia.

At the same time the house of Saud claims alliance with USA, they both raise the oil price and far worse, support terrorism and wahabbi extremism around the world.

Do you really think that the religious polices in Gaza is an idea Hamas came up with themselves?

Look to their funders in Saudi Arabia, they're the ones setting the agenda.

And we're just letting Bush and his Saudi Arabian cronies get away with it.

Unbelievable.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 26, 2008, 02:58:57 PM
Hamas is a terrorist organisation.

I don't think people in general understand how fcuked up they are.

But as long as Israel cuts down the possibilities for regular Palestines to make a living or to travel free to trade, Hamas will be their only way of not starving.

Because Hamas has plenty of money.

And here is where it gets real perverted - the money is Saudi.

Yes, the very same Saudi family that's been friends with the Bush family for generations and now rules Saudi Arabia.

At the same time the house of Saud claims alliance with USA, they both raise the oil price and far worse, support terrorism and wahabbi extremism around the world.

Do you really think that the religious polices in Gaza is an idea Hamas came up with themselves?

Look to their funders in Saudi Arabia, they're the ones setting the agenda.

And we're just letting Bush and his Saudi Arabian cronies get away with it.

Unbelievable.

Actually the money comes in many ways:

1.Hammas have underground tunnels that they use to transport goods when Gaza strip is under quarantine after they shoot missiles. They sell those goods at CRAZY prices, sometimes they cause the quarantine just to get good price for goods.

2.Global/America/Israeli money that is supposed to be used for infrastructure and other helpful things is being stolen by Hammas in order to keep the people miserable and hateful ( Yasser Arafat wife is wanted because he did the same thing, she have like 20Bil$ CASH!!!).

3.Global support of terror from Iran/Saudi/Syria/whatever.

4.Smuggling drugs into Gaza and then selling it to Israeli drug dealers.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Hedgehog on December 26, 2008, 03:30:07 PM
Actually the money comes in many ways:

1.Hammas have underground tunnels that they use to transport goods when Gaza strip is under quarantine after they shoot missiles. They sell those goods at CRAZY prices, sometimes they cause the quarantine just to get good price for goods.

2.Global/America/Israeli money that is supposed to be used for infrastructure and other helpful things is being stolen by Hammas in order to keep the people miserable and hateful ( Yasser Arafat wife is wanted because he did the same thing, she have like 20Bil$ CASH!!!).

3.Global support of terror from Iran/Saudi/Syria/whatever.

4.Smuggling drugs into Gaza and then selling it to Israeli drug dealers.
Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 26, 2008, 06:28:55 PM


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Title: Re: overwhelming Jewish presence in Obamas cabinet
Post by: Hedgehog on December 26, 2008, 07:09:50 PM
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Sorry, posted from my mobile, sometimes it leaves a blank for whatever reason.
Never mind, it was just me bitching about the terrorist funding Saudi's again. 8)