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Is she qualified?
Poll: 41 Percent Say Caroline Kennedy Not Qualified for Senate
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:30 AM
NEW YORK – Voters in New York state are divided on whether Caroline Kennedy should serve as their next senator, and she has work to do to win over more conservative rural voters, a new poll found Tuesday.
The daughter of assassinated president John F. Kennedy is eyeing the Senate seat that Hillary Clinton is giving up to become secretary of state.
The Quinnipiac University survey found 41 percent of state voters thought Kennedy was not qualified to be a senator, while 40 percent said she was qualified.
Forty-eight percent of those asked, however, expected that Gov. David Paterson will name her to the Senate seat.
"Among New Yorkers in general, Caroline Kennedy's grade is just OK," said Maurice Carroll, director of Quinnipiac University's Polling Institute.
"Ask the question two ways: Should the governor appoint Ms. Kennedy? New Yorkers give her a narrow lead over Attorney General Andrew Cuomo. Will he appoint her? Heavily, the answer is 'yes.'"
Thirty-three percent of voters said Paterson should name Kennedy to the seat, while 29 percent preferred Cuomo.
Kennedy leads Cuomo 42 percent to 27 percent among overwhelmingly liberal New York City voters and ties Cuomo at 30 percent in the suburbs.
Cuomo, son of former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo, leads 31 percent to 27 percent in conservative, upstate districts of New York where many Republicans are found, an area Clinton courted during her two Senate election races.
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/caroline_kennedy_poll/2008/12/24/165030.html
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In 2006, Hilary won New York with 67% of the vote.
This means 33% of New Yorkers voted against the Democratic candidate.
Even though she was a proven asset, experienced senator with a household/world name, one-third of NYers believed she wasn't the best pick for their senator.
Despite not being a former first lady or serving 6 years in the senate, Ms. Kennedy is only 8 points behind hilary Clinton in terms of NY approval.
Pretty impressive support for her taking the seat that you've delivered, BB. She has almost as much support as Hilary, and she's only been running for a week now.
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I'm tired of these political aristocracies, Bush, Kennedy et al..
Here we got two political broilers from political families running against each other.
Big surprise.
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What would make her more qualified, being a gay pedophile or soliciting gay sex in an airport bathroom?
Put her in there, probably much more accountable than any other.
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In 2006, Hilary won New York with 67% of the vote.
This means 33% of New Yorkers voted against the Democratic candidate.
Even though she was a proven asset, experienced senator with a household/world name, one-third of NYers believed she wasn't the best pick for their senator.
Despite not being a former first lady or serving 6 years in the senate, Ms. Kennedy is only 8 points behind hilary Clinton in terms of NY approval.
Pretty impressive support for her taking the seat that you've delivered, BB. She has almost as much support as Hilary, and she's only been running for a week now.
That is because my state is a one party state. Whoever runs as a dem is guaranteed to win.
The sad joke is the clowns who kept bashing Palin as unqualified yet think this broad is qualified just by her family name.
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Too bad she doesn't live in Chicago. She could just write a check.
Caroline Kennedy Worth as Much as $400 Million
The potential replacement for Sen. Hillary Clinton says she won't disclose her financial information unless and until she gets the appointment.
AP
Thursday, December 25, 2008
powered by BaynoteNEW YORK -- At this time last year, Caroline Kennedy was promoting "A Family Christmas," her collection of essays that featured the memory of her father letting her use the White House switchboard to call Santa.
This year, after warily stepping into the political free-for-all for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's job, Kennedy's activities during the holiday season included fending off requests to disclose financial information.
The calls for Kennedy to release her financial information, required of many public officials including her uncle Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy, come after a lifetime of carefully cultivated privacy.
By all accounts a very wealthy woman who could be worth as much as $400 million, Kennedy has said she will not release details of her finances unless Democratic Gov. David Paterson picks her for the Senate seat that will open up if Clinton is confirmed as secretary of state.
Before she announced her interest in Clinton's Senate seat, the 51-year-old lawyer, author, wife and mother had been largely invisible to most Americans, who knew her better as the precocious preschooler from John F. Kennedy's administration.
Kennedy, who has spent most of her life in New York since her father's 1963 assassination, has had a varied professional life.
A graduate of Harvard and Columbia University Law School, she does not practice law but has co-authored books on the Bill of Rights and the right to privacy. Her other books are on non-controversial topics like Christmas, patriotism and the favorite poems of her mother, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis. Most of the books were best-sellers, though it is not known how much she earned from them.
Estimates of Kennedy's wealth vary. The Daily News of New York added up assets in the public record and came up with a net worth that tops $100 million. But in his 2007 book "American Legacy: The Story of John and Caroline Kennedy," author C. David Heymann estimated that Kennedy is worth more than $400 million.
When her mother died in 1994, executors valued the Onassis estate at $43.7 million, a figure that has risen after auctions of various assets. Kennedy and her brother, John F. Kennedy Jr., also inherited their father's share of the large, undisclosed fortune founded by their grandfather, Joseph Kennedy. John F. Kennedy Jr. died in 1999 and left an estimated $50 million estate, with his sister and her children as beneficiaries.
Kennedy and her husband, museum designer Edwin Schlossberg, live on Park Avenue in a prewar co-op building where a neighbor's five-bedroom apartment was recently listed for $13 million. Kennedy also owns a 366-acre estate on Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts that she inherited from her mother. The property's worth is estimated at $50 million or more.
Kennedy met Schlossberg, 63, when she worked for the Metropolitan Museum of Art between college and law school. They married in 1986 and have three children, ages 20, 18 and 15.
Kennedy has served on boards including the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation, the Commission on Presidential Debates and the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, earning no compensation from those commitments.
She worked part-time as chief fundraiser for New York City's public schools from 2002 to 2004 and drew a salary of $1 a year. She wasn't required to file disclosure forms required of some city employees in policy-making positions.
Kennedy's spokesman, Stefan Friedman, said Wednesday that she will comply with applicable financial disclosure laws if she is appointed to the Senate but will not release tax returns.
Senators are required to file financial disclosure statements each year. Her uncle is estimated by the Center for Responsive Politics to be the seventh richest member of Congress, possibly worth $103.5 million or more.
Kennedy's bid for the Senate seat has angered a number of New York politicians, both Democrat and Republican, who say she is trading on her famous name and has handled the selection process with an air of entitlement.
According to a Quinnipiac University poll released this week, New York voters are split evenly on whether she is qualified for the Senate but expect Paterson to appoint her by a margin of 48 percent to 25 percent. On Thursday, Paterson said there was no front-runner.
Maura Moynihan, the daughter of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who held the Senate seat Kennedy is seeking from 1977 to 2001, said her college classmate has inherited not just her father's name but his political smarts.
"I admire her more than I can say," she said. " I know that when the people of New York get to know her they will also."
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She needs to play hardball for a little while. She seems to be a hide and run kind of gal. The brutal world of politics needs a thick skin to beat up on. She doesnt hve the staying power for eternal corruption found in politicians
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That is because my state is a one party state. Whoever runs as a dem is guaranteed to win.
And still you think I am an idiot for wanting to change the election system and thus the constitution to favor minority parties?
How does that work for you?
The sad joke is the clowns who kept bashing Palin as unqualified yet think this broad is qualified just by her family name.
I think I just made a post about the venom that these political aristocracies are.
Kennedy may or may not be a qualified politician.
But enough of this silver spoon shit.
FWIW, I think that is a lot of the appeal with Obama, and part of what made Clinton electric - they were both self made.
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60% said Palin wasn't qualified to be VP.
So that means Palin sucks 150% as much as her. Nice.
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60% said Palin wasn't qualified to be VP.
So that means Palin sucks 150% as much as her. Nice.
was that 60% of new yorkers? hmm thought not, you cant compare two different polls with different samples without taking into account the other variables but im not suprised you tried.
If you polled alaskans about whether or not they believe palin is qualified to be vice president im sure she do much better and if you polled all of AMERICA if caroline kennedy is qualified to be NY senetor then im sure she would do much worse...does shit like this not seep into your head or do you just ignore it? Dont worry i dont expect you to answer as you usually dont when i prove you wrong or expose you for trying to spin something.
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60% said Palin wasn't qualified to be VP.
So that means Palin sucks 150% as much as her. Nice.
Palin is a self made starter and did everything on her own.
Kennedy is just a another limosuine liberal multi hundred millionaire wannabe.
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Palin is a self made starter and did everything on her own.
Oh. here I was, thinking it was her husband's oil company pulling the strings after she got them all that $ for a pipeline they never built. And I thought all the folks who said her hubby was in the room running meetings were implying he was the true brain of the operation.
I guess she really is a smart, brilliant woman. She was just playing the fool on Couric, Gibson, and others to disarm us all ;)
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Oh. here I was, thinking it was her husband's oil company pulling the strings after she got them all that $ for a pipeline they never built. And I thought all the folks who said her hubby was in the room running meetings were implying he was the true brain of the operation.
I guess she really is a smart, brilliant woman. She was just playing the fool on Couric, Gibson, and others to disarm us all ;)
was that 60% of new yorkers? hmm thought not, you cant compare two different polls with different samples without taking into account the other variables but im not suprised you tried.
If you polled alaskans about whether or not they believe palin is qualified to be vice president im sure she do much better and if you polled all of AMERICA if caroline kennedy is qualified to be NY senetor then im sure she would do much worse...does shit like this not seep into your head or do you just ignore it? Dont worry i dont expect you to answer as you usually dont when i prove you wrong or expose you for trying to spin something.
why dont you answer that smart ass
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Is she qualified?
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In a democracy, anyone, under the constitution, is qualified to hold office. Any citizen. Should she? Absolutely not.
I say reward the people who have devoted their lives to the political process. Unfortunately, stardom rules and a famous name or pretty face carries the day.
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Palin is a self made starter and did everything on her own.
Kennedy is just a another limosuine liberal multi hundred millionaire wannabe.
Palin is an uapologetic simpleton. She's a fool with a pretty face.
In the latest excerpt released from Katie Couric's interview with Sarah Palin, Katie asked Sarah what magazines she reads to inform her world view. Sarah's initial response was, "I've read most of them..."
Katie then asked Sarah to name a specific title. To which Sarah responded...
Um, all of them...
She should be forever ostracized for that stupidity. Instead, the dullards out their seem to think this chick has moxy.
Ignorance is only ignorance. Her clumsy attempt at glibness perfectly illustrates the lack of brains behind the comely facade.
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Palin is an uapologetic simpleton. She's a fool with a pretty face.
In the latest excerpt released from Katie Couric's interview with Sarah Palin, Katie asked Sarah what magazines she reads to inform her world view. Sarah's initial response was, "I've read most of them..."
Katie then asked Sarah to name a specific title. To which Sarah responded...
She should be forever ostracized for that stupidity. Instead, the dullards out their seem to think this chick has moxy.
Ignorance is only ignorance. Her clumsy attempt at glibness perfectly illustrates the lack of brains behind the comely facade.
Sam Harris had a good perspective on this in his Newsweek article a few months back:
"What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance. Watching her deny to Gibson that she had ever harbored the slightest doubt about her readiness to take command of the world's only superpower, one got the feeling that Palin would gladly assume any responsibility on earth"
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Sam Harris had a good perspective on this in his Newsweek article a few months back:
"What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance. Watching her deny to Gibson that she had ever harbored the slightest doubt about her readiness to take command of the world's only superpower, one got the feeling that Palin would gladly assume any responsibility on earth"
Thats funny considering our president elect thought there were 57 states and VP elect did not even know where the VP's position is listed in the constitution or that there were no TV's during the great depression.
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our president elect thought there were 57 states
You really weaken every other argument you post here, when you say things like this.
he had a harvard law degree. Do you think it's more likely obama missoke, or that he really thinks there are 57 states?
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You really weaken every other argument you post here, when you say things like this.
he had a harvard law degree. Do you think it's more likely obama missoke, or that he really thinks there are 57 states?
And perhaps Palin misspoke too? You never gave her that option because you make the assumption from the first place that she did not know anything and ypu refuse to believe anything otherwise.
Another case in point regarding Obama flubbing answers - on the Russia and Georgia matter- he completely got that one wrong too yet no one called him out on that. He was dead 10000% wrong as far as going to the security counsil on that because he did not know that Russia has a veto vote.
Obama is a good at sounding like he knows what he is talking about on things that he does not have a clue about. He is a good BS artist.
Palin is not a good bs artist and does not do well bs'ing her way through answers.
Do you want me to start on Biden??????
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And perhaps Palin misspoke too?
Yes, she did. Good point. Every time she got near a microphone. You see, Obama spoke to reporters for 16 hours a day for 22 months, and the biggest gaffes were 'bitter' and '57 states'. Palin, on the other hand, spoke without a script about 5 times the entire campaign, and made an ass out of herself every time. Do you understand the difference? He had one gaffe per 2 million words, for example (or whatever number), and she had one gaffe per 100 words. Bit of a difference?
1. "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border." --Sarah Palin, explaining why Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, interview with CBS's Katie Couric, Sept. 24, 2008 (Watch video clip)
2. "We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. ... We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation." --Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in Greensoboro, N.C., Oct. 16, 2008
3. "Ohh, good, thank you, yes." --Sarah Palin, after a notorious Canadian prank caller complimented her on the documentary about her life, Hustler's "Nailin Paylin," Nov. 1, 2008 (Read more about the prank call, watch the video and see the transcript)
4. "Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008 (Watch video clip)
5. "All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008
6. "They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan." --Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Oct. 5, 2008
7. "[T]hey're in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom." --Sarah Palin, getting the vice president's constitutional role wrong after being asked by a third grader what the vice president does, interview with NBC affiliate KUSA in Colorado, Oct. 21, 2008 (Watch video clip)
8. "I told the Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that Bridge to Nowhere." –Sarah Palin, who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it
9. "If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media." --Sarah Palin, getting First Amendment rights backwards while suggesting that criticism of her is unconstitutional, radio interview with WMAL-AM, Oct. 31, 2008
10. "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" --Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council
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Thats funny considering our president elect thought there were 57 states and VP elect did not even know where the VP's position is listed in the constitution or that there were no TV's during the great depression.
Obama was joking
I've got no explanation for Bidens "TV" comment (I've previously posted my own observations of Bidens occasional strange comments)
Either way, I'll take Obama and Biden's judgement and intellect any day of the week over Palin
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Obama was joking
I've got no explanation for Bidens "TV" comment (I've previously posted my own observations of Bidens occasional strange comments)
Either way, I'll take Obama and Biden's judgement and intellect any day of the week over Palin
We have no choice in the matter, Obama is going to become president, not Palin.
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We have no choice in the matter, Obama is going to become president, not Palin.
Thank Jebus for Obama
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Thank Jebus for Obama
Wait two years for pronouncing that so boldly. He has not done anything yet.
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Wait two years for pronouncing that so boldly. He has not done anything yet.
I guess you missed the mockage.
Obama was by FAR the best choice and most of the country (and even more of the planet) could see that.
Of course there are a few exceptions but they are so painfully stupid that it's almost hard to watch.
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How the heck can this woman be "surprised" by her own voting record?? ::)
Caroline Kennedy 'Dismayed' by Own Voting Record
The daughter of President Kennedy makes no excuses for not voting in an election for the very seat she wants to take over.
FOXNews.com
Saturday, December 27, 2008
Caroline Kennedy said she was "surprised and dismayed" by her own voting record, after failing to cast her pick for the very Senate seat she now hopes to take over.
Kennedy offered no excuses for why she failed to vote in a number of elections since registering in New York City in 1988, including in 1994 when Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan was up for re-election as the state's senior senator.
"I was really surprised and dismayed by my voting record," she told the Associated Press. "I'm glad it's been brought to my attention."
In her first sit-down interview since she emerged as a Senate hopeful, the 51-year-old daughter of President John F. Kennedy said she has always pondered jumping into politics, but waited for the right moment.
"I am an unconventional choice. I understand that. I haven't pursued the traditional path. But I think that in our public life today, we're starting to see there are many ways into public life and public service," she said.
She asked Gov. David Paterson 11 days ago to consider her for the position Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will give up if she is confirmed as secretary of state. Kennedy said Paterson told her he did not want people to appear to be campaigning for the position.
"He encouraged me. He said he has a lot of qualified candidates," Kennedy said.
More than a half-dozen elected officials are vying for the seat, including New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo and several members of Congress. Since word of her interest leaked out in early December, Kennedy has faced sometimes sharp criticism that she cut in line ahead of politicians with more experience and has acted as if she were entitled to it because of her political lineage.
"Anybody who knows me knows I haven't really lived that way. And I think that in my family, I come into this thinking I have to work twice as hard as anybody else. Nobody's entitled to anything, certainly not me," she said.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/27/caroline-kennedy-dismayed-voting-record/
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but wait she was spurred into wanting to get involved in politics by the 9/11 attacks and obama surely shes voted since 2001. This women is a joke I honestly think if she would have went through it legitimately and entered an election after having time to prep she probably would have won. This seems like a spur of the moment "hey wtf not?" kind of a deal then anything else.