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An American Christmas!
COVINA, Calif. – Police say six bodies have been found in the ashes of a Christmas Eve party shooting at a house in a Los Angeles suburb that the alleged gunman subsequently set ablaze.
Police Chief Kim Raney says three people believed to have been at the party in the city of Covina remain missing.
The only suspect in the incident, 45-year-old Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, killed himself at his brother's house earlier Thursday.
The missing people include the couple who own the home and Pardo's ex-wife.
Police say the gunman wore a Santa Claus outfit during the shooting. Raney says he used a homemade incendiary devise to start the blaze after opening fire.
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An American Christmas!
COVINA, Calif. – Police say six bodies have been found in the ashes of a Christmas Eve party shooting at a house in a Los Angeles suburb that the alleged gunman subsequently set ablaze.
Police Chief Kim Raney says three people believed to have been at the party in the city of Covina remain missing.
The only suspect in the incident, 45-year-old Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, killed himself at his brother's house earlier Thursday.
The missing people include the couple who own the home and Pardo's ex-wife.
Police say the gunman wore a Santa Claus outfit during the shooting. Raney says he used a homemade incendiary devise to start the blaze after opening fire.
In Florida, at least 2 of the partygoers would also have been armed, and would have returned fire, killing the inebriated santa shooter before he could get to victim #2.
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An American Christmas!
COVINA, Calif. – Police say six bodies have been found in the ashes of a Christmas Eve party shooting at a house in a Los Angeles suburb that the alleged gunman subsequently set ablaze.
Police Chief Kim Raney says three people believed to have been at the party in the city of Covina remain missing.
The only suspect in the incident, 45-year-old Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, killed himself at his brother's house earlier Thursday.
The missing people include the couple who own the home and Pardo's ex-wife.
Police say the gunman wore a Santa Claus outfit during the shooting. Raney says he used a homemade incendiary devise to start the blaze after opening fire.
Thnaks for staying in the spirit of things.
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The ex wife and in laws must have done something very bad to drive this guy to this.
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Let's not go calling this guy a 'gunman'. He's an alleged 'killer'.
A gun is just a tool. These homicides could have easily been done with a giant plastic candy cane.
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Let's not go calling this guy a 'gunman'. He's an alleged 'killer'.
A gun is just a tool. These homicides could have easily been done with a giant plastic candy cane.
yes your right lets outlaw all guns b/c this guy would have talked it out if guns where illegal ::)
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yes your right lets outlaw all guns b/c this guy would have talked it out if guns where illegal ::)
What are you talking about outlawing guns for? Gun laws cause gun crime. If there were such a thing as 'gun crime'. Which there is not.
Guns are only tools. People are killers. Not guns.
The 'killer' could have just as easily killed those people with a rock or an SUV.
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Let's not go calling this guy a 'gunman'. He's an alleged 'killer'.
A gun is just a tool. These homicides could have easily been done with a giant plastic candy cane.
He also burned the house down with accelerant. They dont know how many died in the fire. Should we ban fire???
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What are you talking about outlawing guns for? Gun laws cause gun crime. If there were such a thing as 'gun crime'. Which there is not.
Guns are only tools. People are killers. Not guns.
The 'killer' could have just as easily killed those people with a rock or an SUV.
I don't know many people capable of walking through a party of 25 and killing 9 with a rock without being subdued or incapacitated. What a an absolutely terrible comparison. ::)
That statement just goes to show how stupid you really are, Decker. I feel sorry for you.
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He also burned the house down with accelerant. They dont know how many died in the fire. Should we ban fire???
let's ban houses. They're potential death traps, tombs for fiery madness.
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What are you talking about outlawing guns for? Gun laws cause gun crime. If there were such a thing as 'gun crime'. Which there is not.
Guns are only tools. People are killers. Not guns.
The 'killer' could have just as easily killed those people with a rock or an SUV.
Why dont we ban drugs like cocaine, pot, and heroine so that less people will be addicted to these substances.
Oh thats right, we already tried that.
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Let's not go calling this guy a 'gunman'. He's an alleged 'killer'.
A gun is just a tool. These homicides could have easily been done with a giant plastic candy cane.
In FL, this santa character would have been capped in his gut by the 'on average' of at least two people in that house of 25 that would have been packing heat. 5 or 6 if he would have come to my house during the Christmas party.
In L.A. the population is disarmed, so they just stood there pissing themselves waiting to be capped. Nice.
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I don't know many people capable of walking through a party of 25 and killing 9 with a rock without being subdued or incapacitated. What a an absolutely terrible comparison. ::)
That statement just goes to show how stupid you really are, Decker. I feel sorry for you.
Decker was trying to use sarcasm. He hates guns.
This case is not a good one to use since people also died in the fire. Should we ban fire and arson?
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Decker was trying to use sarcasm. He hates guns.
This case is not a good one to use since people also died in the fire. Should we ban fire and arson?
I didn't bother reading his post. I skimmed it and saw 'rock' and 'gun' and attributed it to his Downs.
If someone wants a gun to kill a bunch of people, they'll get it. Regardless of whether they're banned or not. Guy even shot an 8 year old girl in the face when she opened the door. What a scumbag.
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I don't know many people capable of walking through a party of 25 and killing 9 with a rock without being subdued or incapacitated. What a an absolutely terrible comparison. ::)
That statement just goes to show how stupid you really are, Decker. I feel sorry for you.
Don't you have some anti-arab articles to post?
Get lost sonny, you bother me.
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Decker was trying to use sarcasm. He hates guns.
This case is not a good one to use since people also died in the fire. Should we ban fire and arson?
Who hates guns?
I am re-posting the exact same arguments that Brinkzone posts.
Only when I do it, you seem to think it's sarcasm.
Why is that?
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Who hates guns?
I am re-posting the exact same arguments that Brinkzone posts.
Only when I do it, you seem to think it's sarcasm.
Why is that?
i think what he is trying to say and what you are trying to ignore is that if the man really wanted to kill all these ppl he could have done it without a gun. ::) wise the fuk up
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Don't you have some anti-arab articles to post?
Get lost sonny, you bother me.
Aww look, I "bother" the apologist. Don't you have a case to piss away due to your obvious stupidity?
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i think what he is trying to say and what you are trying to ignore is that if the man really wanted to kill all these ppl he could have done it without a gun. ::) wise the fuk up
How do you know? What if some wise party-goer was armed for self defense? Armed with a gun?
Doesn't that make the killing by rock or SUV scenario a little iffy? Wouldn't using a gun, like he did, make the most sense to get the job done?
You never know with these killers. I got all these rocks laying around my yard. Little did I know what a death trap that was. Christ, it's an invitation to come and kill me.
On a related note as far as X-mas is concerned, here's some Bill HIcks to piss you off:
It's just a ride and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money, a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one.
He was such an idealist. Not me. Not when there's killer Santas roaming the range.
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Aww look, I "bother" the apologist. Don't you have a case to piss away due to your obvious stupidity?
Shlomo, take a hike.
Yes, you bother me. You post the same anti-arab shit over and over and over and it makes you look like a smalltime crank. Which you are.
There would not be a middle eastern problem if the zealots of Judaism did not manufacture some bullshit theory of "magic of our homeland"....it's a covenant btn god and his chosen people. It's that kind of crap that's ruining this planet.
Yeah, thanks you fucking assholes for making the middle east into a hell on earth.
Why not move to Wyoming? That land has magic too.
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How do you know? What if some wise party-goer was armed for self defense? Armed with a gun?
Doesn't that make the killing by rock or SUV scenario a little iffy? Wouldn't using a gun, like he did, make the most sense to get the job done?
You never know with these killers. I got all these rocks laying around my yard. Little did I know what a death trap that was. Christ, it's an invitation to come and kill me.
On a related note as far as X-mas is concerned, here's some Bill HIcks to piss you off:
He was such an idealist. Not me. Not when there's killer Santas roaming the range.
LOL dude your the biggest retard on here advocated banning guns and thinking that will help the problem and then condemning building a fence for the border b/c it doesnt address the underlying causes hahahah goodness gracious.
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LOL dude your the biggest retard on here advocated banning guns and thinking that will help the problem and then condemning building a fence for the border b/c it doesnt address the underlying causes hahahah goodness gracious.
Decker was owned in the fence issue as there was a report that just came out saying that the fence is working and curtailing many illegal corssings.
Facts never seem to get in the way of his liberal naive view on things.
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LOL dude your the biggest retard on here advocated banning guns and thinking that will help the problem and then condemning building a fence for the border b/c it doesnt address the underlying causes hahahah goodness gracious.
What are you talking about?
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Shlomo, take a hike.
Yes, you bother me. You post the same anti-arab shit over and over and over and it makes you look like a smalltime crank. Which you are.
There would not be a middle eastern problem if the zealots of Judaism did not manufacture some bullshit theory of "magic of our homeland"....it's a covenant btn god and his chosen people. It's that kind of crap that's ruining this planet.
Yeah, thanks you fucking assholes for making the middle east into a hell on earth.
Why not move to Wyoming? That land has magic too.
The fuck are you talking about? Stop melting down. It's embarrassing. Crybaby apologists who hate having the facts smack them right in the face crack me up.
The Jew problem is just one of the many problems the Arabs have with the West, apologist retard. Man, you really are hellbent on showing us how unbelievably stupid you are.
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Decker was owned in the fence issue as there was a report that just came out saying that the fence is working and curtailing many illegal corssings.
Facts never seem to get in the way of his liberal naive view on things.
Oh yes, I was owned b/c your multi-billion dollar 700 mile super fence made a 5 mile stretch a little less active for illegals.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20081119-9999-1m19fence.html
Yes that's your link.
That's quite a coup. I tip my cap to your efficiency.
And to think it only cost us billions to secure (partially) that 5 mile expanse. Let me guess, you are a supporter of the 700 billion spent in Iraq to protect us from Saudi terrorism?
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The fuck are you talking about? Stop melting down. It's embarrassing. Crybaby apologists who hate having the facts smack them right in the face crack me up.
The Jew problem is just one of the many problems the Arabs have with the West, apologist retard. Man, you really are hellbent on showing us how unbelievably stupid you are.
Why is money green?
B/c Jews keep picking it before it's ripe.
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Why is money green?
B/c Jews keep picking it before it's ripe.
Meltdown!
Oh yes, I was owned b/c your multi-billion dollar 700 mile super fence made a 5 mile stretch a little less active for illegals.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20081119-9999-1m19fence.html
Yes that's your link.
That's quite a coup. I tip my cap to your efficiency.
And to think it only cost us billions to secure (partially) that 5 mile expanse. Let me guess, you are a supporter of the 700 billion spent in Iraq to protect us from Saudi terrorism?
This is ironic. You advocate universal health care, which will cost the government billions of dollars catering to these illegals who don't deserve jack shit. Brilliant logic, Einstein.
Do you have any clients? I'm convinced that you're probably the shittiest lawyer in America. Those crazy crackerjack law school programs.
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Oh yes, I was owned b/c your multi-billion dollar 700 mile super fence made a 5 mile stretch a little less active for illegals.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20081119-9999-1m19fence.html
Yes that's your link.
That's quite a coup. I tip my cap to your efficiency.
And to think it only cost us billions to secure (partially) that 5 mile expanse. Let me guess, you are a supporter of the 700 billion spent in Iraq to protect us from Saudi terrorism?
Whatever you may want to think, we have not been hit again since 9/11.
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Meltdown!
This is ironic. You advocate universal health care, which will cost the government billions of dollars catering to these illegals who don't deserve jack shit. Brilliant logic, Einstein.
Did you hear about the new jewish car?
It stops on a dime....and picks it up.
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Did you hear about the new jewish car?
It stops on a dime....and picks it up.
You're going off the deep end. Talk about embarrassing.
Maybe you should spend time refuting the points 3333836 and Tony are making instead of acting like a 4 year old. You're a "lawyer" after all. :-X
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You're going off the deep end. Talk about embarrassing.
Maybe you should spend time refuting the points 3333836 and Tony are making instead of acting like a 4 year old. You're a "lawyer" after all. :-X
Why do Jews have such big noses? Air is free.
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Why do Jews have such big noses? Air is free.
Your Jew jokes suck. There are much better ones. How do you fit 100 jews in a car? One in the front and 99 in the ash tray. I've got a million of them.
I do find it funny that you dedicate yourself to derailing every thread you get bitch slapped in.
Tony/3333836 - 1
Decker - 0
Owned.
You're melting down HARD.
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Your Jew jokes suck. There are much better ones. How do you fit 100 jews in a car? One in the front and 99 in the ash tray. I've got a million of them.
I do find it funny that you dedicate yourself to derailing every thread you get bitch slapped in.
Tony/3333836 - 1
Decker - 0
Owned.
You're melting down HARD.
How was the grand canyon created? Well, this Jew dropped a penny into a crack in the ground. . .
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And here you have it folks. Decker's finally been broken. The kid's been teetering on the edge for months.
What's it like being a shitty lawyer Decker? You have any of those home-made commercials showing on regional TV?
I can see it now. "Call 1-800-IloseCASES and ask for the neighborhood retard!"
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The facts are always getting in his way.
The border fence is a bargain BTW because not only does it make it harder for illegals to cross over, but acts a deterrent to people thinking about crossing in those sectors. Additionally, for every illegal who stays home, the American taxpayer saves a tremendous amount of $$$$ both immediately as well as for years to come.
If a person wants a stampede of 3rd world peasants into the USA, like Decker does, than of course you are going to try to find every excuse under the sun against a fence and wall.
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The facts are always getting in his way.
The border fence is a bargain BTW because not only does it make it harder for illegals to cross over, but acts a deterrent to people thinking about crossing in those sectors. Additionally, for every illegal who stays home, the American taxpayer saves a tremendous amount of $$$$ both immediately as well as for years to come.
If a person wants a stampede of 3rd world peasants into the USA, like Decker does, than of course you are going to try to find every excuse under the sun against a fence and wall.
It's because he isn't capable of debating topics like an intelligent person. My guess is that he's one of those dumber folks who have trouble with basic concepts like simple arithmetic. You need to treat him like the child he is and enjoy watching him flail about making an ass of himself as you destroy his arguments with simple logic.
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And here you have it folks. Decker's finally been broken. The kid's been teetering on the edge for months.
What's it like being a shitty lawyer Decker? You have any of those home-made commercials showing on regional TV?
I can see it now. "Call 1-800-IloseCASES and ask for the neighborhood retard!"
That's not bad for your intelligence. Made me smile. 1-800-I lose cases.....genius.
Let's see, here are some highlights from your last post: ....suck ...bitch slapped
What? No reference to circle jerks, anal rape or any other gay enterprise?
You're losing your touch. Don't stray from your character, you're lost without homo-erotic based name-calling.
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The facts are always getting in his way.
The border fence is a bargain BTW because not only does it make it harder for illegals to cross over, but acts a deterrent to people thinking about crossing in those sectors. Additionally, for every illegal who stays home, the American taxpayer saves a tremendous amount of $$$$ both immediately as well as for years to come.
If a person wants a stampede of 3rd world peasants into the USA, like Decker does, than of course you are going to try to find every excuse under the sun against a fence and wall.
What did you pay for your last cheeseburger? What, $10,000? That's as big a bargain as your fence.
Glad to see you're still reading other people's minds.
You're just like Tony Mc--you both set up straw arguments to knock down. Him--he states that I want guns banned.
You, you state that I want illegals stampeding into our country.
Do you guys ever ....awwww to hell with it.
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That's not bad for your intelligence. Made me smile. 1-800-I lose cases.....genius.
Let's see, here are some highlights from your last post:
What? No reference to circle jerks, anal rape or any other gay enterprise?
You're losing your touch. Don't stray from your character, your lost without homo-erotic based name-calling.
Wow. ANOTHER post from you referencing homosexuals. Have you gone a day on here without referencing gays in some way? You seem to have them on your mind an awful lot for a supposed "heterosexual". :-\
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What did you pay for your last cheeseburger? What, $10,000? That's as big a bargain as your fence.
Glad to see you're still reading other people's minds.
You're just like Tony Mc--you both set up straw arguments to knock down. Him--he states that I want guns banned.
You, you state that I want illegals stampeding into our country.
Do you guys ever ....awwww to hell with it.
im sorry i must have misunderstood your sarcasm, its so obvious that you love guns now.
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The logical extension of someone not wanting a fence and a wall is to say that they, meaning that person, dont mind having illegal aliens stampede the border since that is what they, the illegal mexicans and others, do when there is no fence in place and no strict border control.
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Wow. ANOTHER post from you referencing homosexuals. Have you gone a day on here without referencing gays in some way? You seem to have them on your mind an awful lot for a supposed "heterosexual". :-\
I look at your posts and threads. If there is not some whining or pissing about arabs, then there's your voluminous uses of gay imagery to attack your opponnents.
Do you really want me to go back through your posts and show everyone? Ok.
You are the whiniest twat I've ever seen. Stick a dick in your mouth and stfu.
You would be slobbering all over Bush's nuts if it turned out the Repubs were doing this.
Both candidates suck major dick and
the USA should get on its knees and let terrorists/China/Russia jerk off on our collective face.
You're right and I'm wrong. There is absolutely nothing gay about your posts.
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im sorry i must have misunderstood your sarcasm, its so obvious that you love guns now.
I don't love things...except for drugs.
A gun will not make you right. It won't grow your hair back. It won't make you charming to the ladies. It won't make you more of a man. As Brinkzone says incessantly : it's a tool.
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The logical extension of someone not wanting a fence and a wall is to say that they, meaning that person, dont mind having illegal aliens stampede the border since that is what they, the illegal mexicans and others, do when there is no fence in place and no strict border control.
Do you have a fence circling your house? If not, that must mean you want burglars streaming in to rob you.
Thank you for clearing that up for me. B/c there really is no other way to battle illegal immigration than to construct a multi-billion dollar fence that secures 5 miles of a 700 mile border.
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I don't love things...except for drugs.
A gun will not make you right. It won't grow your hair back. It won't make you charming to the ladies. It won't make you more of a man. As Brinkzone says incessantly : it's a tool.
brinkzone hasnt even posted on this thread so why dont you stfu about him unless you cant control your man crush.
if you want to have a serious discussion fine if not stfu with the sarcastic ass comments, cool?
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Do you have a fence circling your house? If not, that must mean you want burglars streaming in to rob you.
Thank you for clearing that up for me. B/c there really is no other way to battle illegal immigration than to construct a multi-billion dollar fence that secures 5 miles of a 700 mile border.
Actually, I have a fence on three sides.
Your analogy is utter garbage btw because I dont have a problem with burglars streaming into my yard. However, the USA DOEAS have a severe problem with mexican burglars breaking and entering into this country.
Illegals by all studies costs the USA and the cities billions an billions a year in medical, prisons, schools, etc.
A fence is well worth the price.
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Actually, I have a fence on three sides.
Your analogy is utter garbage btw because I dont have a problem with burglars streaming into my yard. However, the USA DOEAS have a severe problem with mexican burglars breaking and entering into this country.
Illegals by all studies costs the USA and the cities billions an billions a year in medical, prisons, schools, etc.
A fence is well worth the price.
My analogy is only as strong as your point...Over a billion dollars for a fence that has had a next to invisible effect on illegal immigration except for one 5 mile section where illegal crossings have dropped by about 50%. Beautiful.
You fulminate about the wastefulness of government. Your fence is a an ode to waste, inefficiency and let's face it, stupidity. Yet you keep beating the drum for it.
Nobody, except for Bush and the financial elites, wants illegal immigration so why do you point out the alleged high costs of illegal immigration?
The issue at hand is the manifest waste and stupidity of a billion dollar fence that has done little change the problem. It's a multibillion dollar dirty bandaid.
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My analogy is only as strong as your point...Over a billion dollars for a fence that has had a next to invisible effect on illegal immigration except for one 5 mile section where illegal crossings have dropped by about 50%. Beautiful.
You fulminate about the wastefulness of government. Your fence is a an ode to waste, inefficiency and let's face it, stupidity. Yet you keep beating the drum for it.
Nobody, except for Bush and the financial elites, wants illegal immigration so why do you point out the alleged high costs of illegal immigration?
The issue at hand is the manifest waste and stupidity of a billion dollar fence that has done little change the problem. It's a multibillion dollar dirty bandaid.
again its not a cure what do you not understand about that? IT IS A STEP NOT THE STEP you rant and rave about the cost but ignore the cost that illegal immigrants add to our country at the same time that my friend is ignorance.
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brinkzone hasnt even posted on this thread so why dont you stfu about him unless you cant control your man crush.
if you want to have a serious discussion fine if not stfu with the sarcastic ass comments, cool?
Go fuck yourself assface.
I have my fun posting the inanities of gun nuts, like BrinkZone and yourself, to illustrate how nonsensical and, let's face it, plainly moronic you gun lunatics really are.
If you don't like it, then stop commenting. Go away. Don't respond to my posts.
No one's got a gun to your head making you post here.
Take advantage of your freedom and ignore me.
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again its not a cure what do you not understand about that? IT IS A STEP NOT THE STEP you rant and rave about the cost but ignore the cost that illegal immigrants add to our country at the same time that my friend is ignorance.
What?
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Go fuck yourself assface.
I have my fun posting the inanities of gun nuts, like BrinkZone and yourself, to illustrate how nonsensical and, let's face it, plainly moronic you gun lunatics really are.
If you don't like it, then stop commenting. Go away. Don't respond to my posts.
No one's got a gun to your head making you post here.
Take advantage of your freedom and ignore me.
LOL you get fun out of making moronic statements? do also eat pieces of shit for breakfest?
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I teach 4 year old kids. Everytime I turn my back they are fighting about something. Kinda like you guys on every thread.
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Her ex wife and stuff may have deserved (no I dont agree with that post) but this spinless nutfuck shot an 8 year old that answered the door in the face and she is in critical conditon. It is believed it was the shooters stepdaughter. CNN reported they were only married 2 years and wife just filed for divorce.