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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: ju5t1n on December 27, 2008, 01:40:23 PM
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if you dont inject (oil based AAS) deep enough in the glute and a lump forms will it need medical intervention as i'm guessing the lump is an abcess or does the body cope with it anyone with personal experiences ???
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it will absorb by itself.
jt
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really? thats good as i'm a little worried like an idiot i injected a little low :-\ (like an idiot) has anyone ever actually done this?
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it may develop into something that needs medical assistance. however, bumps and swelling at the injections site are not that rare of an occurance, and theres a good chance that its going to dissapate on its own if you just leave it alone. however it it gets worse and after about a week it is still painful and is getten more swollen and red, go straight to the doctor.
if you want to help it, put a heating pad.
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thanks for the advice ill keep monitoring it and keep my fingers crossed when i showed a nurse i know she pointed out that i'd pinned too low and said i might need anti biotic :-[ not good, however i do have some antibiotics here at home and might just pop them as they cant do any harm i guess....
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like Tbombz said put a heating pad on it and go to the Doc if it doesn't show improvement in a week or so...just leave that injection
site alone for awhile.
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your gear must be really dirty if you are worried about that shit, if you got great clean human grade gear you prolly wouldn't even know you didn't hit the muscle.
jt
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no its clean gear dunno if your allowed to name labs so i wont but its not ug lab its legit ??? are you saying if you missed the muscle it still shouldnt even make a lump?
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your gear must be really dirty if you are worried about that shit, if you got great clean human grade gear you prolly wouldn't even know you didn't hit the muscle.
jt
not totally true...could be unsterile practices...
also Tren always gives me a reaction at the injection site...
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no its clean gear dunno if your allowed to name labs so i wont but its not ug lab its legit ??? are you saying if you missed the muscle it still shouldnt even make a lump?
you can say what human grade pharmac made it, if you wish to.
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oh well its Nomadlab Tren100 and Depot test @ 1 ml each
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and i showered before i pinned and used alcohol swab before and after and changed pins after drawing so i think i did all i could as far as sterile practises go?
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oh well its Namadlab Tren100 and Depot test @ 1 ml each
like I had stated Tren gives me a reaction at the injection site almost everytime but it is very mild and it is only for a couple of hrs...
and it is usually in leaner parts of the body shoulders and pecs almost everytime.
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and i showered before i pinned and used alcohol swab before and after and changed pins after drawing so i think i did all i could as far as sterile practises go?
yes those are good sterile practices...could just be the tren
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well, on the surface, it sounds like its human grade.
Nomad Science and Technology was founded in the national health district of Torch Economic Zone in the Peoples Republic of China in May 2004. From the offset the company set its goals on building a world class bio-pharmaceutical research and development production facility. To achieve its goals the company introduced state of the art bio-pharmaceutical production equipment and it took less than a year to complete the entire necessary infrastructure needed to start its operations. The company obtained its GMP certificate from the SFDA (State Food and Drug Administration Bureau) and began its research and development process and started its highly automated and efficient production facility.
howeveri think its prrobably more of ug type of operation, as i think, on instinct only, that i doubt its used in any pharmacy.
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there is no HG tren it is not made for the intent for humans to use...now it can be made in a very sterile environment but it is not HG.
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this is about my 7th shot and ive been lucky with tren, i never suffered the dreaded cough and apart from my first shot in the delt (stung like a mofo so i moved to glutes) all shots have been fine, my last shot was thurs so its been 2 days and the lumps still there, to the touch its not hot (maybe marginally warmer) and im not running a fever or anything. Tommorow ill take some anti biotics i still have from a urine infection i had and neve got round to using due to a quick recovery apart from that ill stik a heat pad on it like you advised and cross my fingers..
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there is no HG tren it is not made for the intent for humans to use...now it can be made in a very sterile environment but it is not HG.
sorry whats HG? excuse my stupidity...
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this is about my 7th shot and ive been lucky with tren, i never suffered the dreaded cough and apart from my first shot in the delt (stung like a mofo so i moved to glutes) all shots have been fine, my last shot was thurs so its been 2 days and the lumps still there, to the touch its not hot (maybe marginally warmer) and im not running a fever or anything. Tommorow ill take some anti biotics i still have from a urine infection i had and neve got round to using due to a quick recovery apart from that ill stik a heat pad on it like you advised and cross my fingers..
try pinning the body part then go train it...it might help for you.
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sorry whats HG? excuse my stupidity...
HG-human grade
UG-under ground
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try pinning the body part then go train it...it might help for you.
lol that means pinning everything... this is my first cycle and i dont have anyone to help me pin... was planning on sticking with glutes tbh
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lol that means pinning everything... this is my first cycle and i dont have anyone to help me pin... was planning on sticking with glutes tbh
Keep doing this and you're guaranteed to get an abscess, my friend.
Don't worry about things now, just don't lay on it or hit it. I've had a shallow injection take a long time to subside. Perhaps it was a small abscess but it didn't need antibiotics. I just laid off the gym for an extra day or two, ate good, rested up well and tried not to sweat it. Keep an eye on it though, just don't obsess over it and become paranoid. If you need, get some antibiotics to help it subside quicker.
Seriously though, pin somewhere else aside from your friggen' ass. Delts and quads for sure. Some people hit nerves in their quads like I do, but anyone should be able to hit shoulders. And if they're not big enough to hold your injections you should not be injecting at all. Do things properly before you get an abscess, man.
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my shoulders are definately big enough to pin i did my first shot on them but i found it hurt alot and effected my training so i moved to glutes, i thought with it only being 2 shots a week hitting each glute once a week wouldnt cause any problems? am i wrong... :-[
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lol that means pinning everything... this is my first cycle and i dont have anyone to help me pin... was planning on sticking with glutes tbh
there are some good websites out there that can help you with pinning other places
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my shoulders are definately big enough to pin i did my first shot on them but i found it hurt alot and effected my training so i moved to glutes, i thought with it only being 2 shots a week hitting each glute once a week wouldnt cause any problems? am i wrong... :-[
you have answered your own question with starting this post...I rotate injections and don't usually have probs...just deal with the pain
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there are some good websites out there that can help you with pinning other places
ive recently found spotinjections.com its helped alot.
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ive recently found spotinjections.com its helped alot.
use it bro got to rotate like I said if you are training legs today pin legs then train it will help with the soreness of the injection...help get the oil moving around...good luck
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I get my TRT shots twice a week in the glutes. Not a good thing, than?
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ok ill start pinning the muscle group im training, will be scary to start with lol...
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thanks for the advice ill keep monitoring it and keep my fingers crossed when i showed a nurse i know she pointed out that i'd pinned too low and said i might need anti biotic :-[ not good, however i do have some antibiotics here at home and might just pop them as they cant do any harm i guess....
Uh yeah it does do harm. Self medicating with antibiotics is not a good idea. Antibiotics should not be used unless they are prescribed by a Doctor. Over use of antibiotics is what has largely added to AB resistant strains of bacterias.
http://tahilla.typepad.com/mrsawatch/
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Uh yeah it does do harm. Self medicating with antibiotics is not a good idea. Antibiotics should not be used unless they are prescribed by a Doctor. Over use of antibiotics is what has largely added to AB resistant strains of bacterias.
http://tahilla.typepad.com/mrsawatch/
Agreed, but it's good to keep some on hand just in case of infection. For emergency use only...IMO
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Dude, the body will heal itself. Heating pads are a life saver. I've had it happen to me twice (one was my fault and the other was shitty ass gear), and the last one I thought I was going to have to go to the doctors to have it drained but my body ended up healing completely in almost exactly a weeks time. It's a big bitch, but time will heal.
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Dude, the body will heal itself. Heating pads are a life saver. I've had it happen to me twice (one was my fault and the other was shitty ass gear), and the last one I thought I was going to have to go to the doctors to have it drained but my body ended up healing completely in almost exactly a weeks time. It's a big bitch, but time will heal.
Bad fucking advice, dude. The body will TRY to heal. If it's beyond your body's capabilities, we have to intervene with modern medicine. You can't just pray for mercy to the great Juice Gods.
If things aren't healed up and it's coming up to the 1 week mark, keep a close eye on it. It could just be the BA or high amounts of other crap some UGLs blast their gear with for sterility... but you can be like me and just sensitive to BA or other types of oils. Even pharm grade (legit - don't question me or my sanitary practices), I've had a few warm, tight knots in my muscle that took a few extra days to subside.
The worst is when I pinned some Karachi sust. Was as smooth as it always was bit for some reason my shoulder had tons of pain. Perhaps something got into the vial but it happened twice. This time it was so bad I had to put a pillow under my arm and get my gf to spoon me and wrap our legs in a blanket. Had to make sure I couldn't move because the pain was so excruciating. I'm also sensitive to UGL gear with lots of BA. It's the luck of the draw. Just do your best to employ sanitary injection practices, rotate injection sites and give them a little massage a few minutes after injecting and get the oil moving around. Like others have said, if you pin right before working out it'll get the blood moving and the muscles warmed up. It really makes recovery simple. Prop shots sometimes bothered me the next day but if I pin and train, recover is noticeably quicker.
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well im monitoring the lump and it seam to have almost gone, it never really got hot (by itself), i never ran a fever and the limp was not visible to eye only touch when you pressed on my butt cheek so fingers cross by thurs (1week) it'll be gone.
i took you advice and started opening my mind to all of the injection sites possible and decided to do my quad yesterday :'( it was stiff after the jab but dam its hurts today, with this being my first injectable course does your body start to get used to been pinned and injected IM? or is it just the tren (500mg test cyp + 200mg tren, pw) that is causing the pain ???
thanks guys
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The high BA from the tren can be irritable but pinning a virgin muscle is always a huge pain (in the literal sense). When I pinned quads for the first time they were so sore I was almost bed ridden lol
Some guys get it worse... but now it's no problem. Your body will get used to it. Just massage it and let time do it's thing.
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The high BA from the tren can be irritable but pinning a virgin muscle is always a huge pain (in the literal sense). When I pinned quads for the first time they were so sore I was almost bed ridden lol
Some guys get it worse... but now it's no problem. Your body will get used to it. Just massage it and let time do it's thing.
This info is correct. You will get used to the injections and will not be as sore.
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good because im dying here... talk about agony :o it really stiffens up then either bending or straightening is a mission in its self. i was wondering how i was gonna train in this state, thats the only good thing about the glutes they ever hurt ??? thanks for all the sound advice 8)
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it gets easier then all you have to worry about is scar tissue like going through card board when I hit qlutes
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good because im dying here... talk about agony :o it really stiffens up then either bending or straightening is a mission in its self. i was wondering how i was gonna train in this state, thats the only good thing about the glutes they ever hurt ??? thanks for all the sound advice 8)
Inject then go train, this will help to lessen next day soreness.
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it gets easier then all you have to worry about is scar tissue like going through card board when I hit qlutes
Fuckin' amen, dude... I HATE hitting scar tissue. I didn't hit glutes during my first cycle out of fear for hitting the sciatic nerve. Second and third I did, but now I just can't. I have so much scar tissue there for some reason. I have a little in my delts too but it's not as bad as I once thought. Sometimes it feels like hardcore bristle or something. Jesus lol
Just part of the game though. At least I'm not completely fucked for a week after doing an inject now lol
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Inject then go train, this will help to lessen next day soreness.
if your having that much pain, it is prolly your gear that is the problem.
jt
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if your having that much pain, it is prolly your gear that is the problem.
jt
Naw, it's also a virgin muscle, dude. Don't you remember the pain and anguish? Even the finest HG gear can wreck the strongest dude when he's pinning a new muscle. I remember quads and triceps being the worst. I've pinned triceps many times but never with UGL prop. My goodness was that ever miserable!!! lol
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the pains eased off a little today i think by tomorow it will ba fairly normal again :).... now i've just got to do the other one :'(
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Like I said, inject then go to the gym. It will help work the oil in a little better lessening the pain.
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Like I said, inject then go to the gym. It will help work the oil in a little better lessening the pain.
Yeah, and if you can't hit the gym because it's not in alignment with when you can pin (or it's an off day), just go for a stroll or do a bit of stretching and moving around. It's much better than leaving a pocket of oil just sitting there to be metabolized slowly.
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dude your are injecting a foreign liquid in your flesh it is going to be slightly uncomfortable but will go away after at least 1-3 days unless you tore the muscle will injecting at a bad angle but that should be gone in less than a week
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I don't have any pain at all usually if i inject in quads, I love hitting quads, schering and plivia test e ftw.
jt