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Discuss?
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Yeah...
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I would say so
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Yes.
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Magnus samuelsson claims he isn't. :D
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All Met-Rx
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no, they just eat 25000 calories a day
btw
500 kcals are from anapolon alone (and remember: orals are no "steroids")
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Discuss?
I don't know. These guys have super-freak genetics for size&strengh, so they can pack on lots of mass naturally - extreme mesomorph types. On the other hand though, they seem to be a little too low in bodyfat with their huge size to be drug-free. I can see a 6'7 man with a huge frame weighing 350 lbs with average bodyfat after many years of heavy training on the basic lifts, but even a guy that height with a huge frame can't weight 350 lbs with a visible six-pack. That's the red flag.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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am I bald ? ::) :D
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Why not?
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They are all aspartame free!!!
HAHAHAHA
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Poundstone and Mariusz are ripped for being 300+lb strongmen
if anyone thinks they are natty, than they're dumber than Jtsunami is gay when he's drooling over Alex23's pics
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I don't know. These guys have super-freak genetics for size&strengh, so they can pack on lots of mass naturally - extreme mesomorph types. On the other hand though, they seem to be a little too low in bodyfat with their huge size to be drug-free. I can see a 6'7 man with a huge frame weighing 350 lbs with average bodyfat after many years of heavy training on the basic lifts, but even a guy that height with a huge frame can't weight 350 lbs with a visible six-pack. That's the red flag.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
retard..
ofcourse all of them use steroids.
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that mtv special few yrs back with snee he looks like a kid there ,he is huge now what do u think,its not creatine and wheaties....
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It's Rice and Beans, once a day.
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am I bald ? ::) :D
Are you gay? :D
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i dont think any natural guy could lift those atlas stones god damn
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Are they juicing! Hell,I juice just watching them!
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Are you gay? :D
::)
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no
they dont need to juice
theyre born strong
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They're def natties.
Pudzi for example, is all bacon, chocolate & of course, Met-Rx.
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you can tell which ones are juicing and which ones arent. use your brain.
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you can tell which ones are juicing and which ones arent. use your brain.
even the ones who don't "look" like they're juicing are doing it, they wouldn't be at the level they're at if they weren't.
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even the ones who don't "look" like they're juicing are doing it, they wouldn't be at the level they're at if they weren't.
you think so? ive always thought that you could get that strong naturally, but you just will be real frat and you wont look very muscular either. some of those guys look like "Lops" but are amazingly strong beastly dudes.
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you think so? ive always thought that you could get that strong naturally, but you just will be real frat and you wont look very muscular either. some of those guys look like "Lops" but are amazingly strong beastly dudes.
you ain't overhead pressing 350-400 poundsdand pulling 650-700 pound deadlifts for a few reps without "help" regardless of what you look like.
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you think so? ive always thought that you could get that strong naturally, but you just will be real frat and you wont look very muscular either. some of those guys look like "Lops" but are amazingly strong beastly dudes.
:D ::)
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you ain't overhead pressing 350-400 poundsdand pulling 650-700 pound deadlifts for a few reps without "help" regardless of what you look like.
i think there were some big fat strongmen who did comparable lifts before steroid were invented. if leaving but check out
www.oldtimestrongman.com ..anythign pre 1950 would have to be natural.. well..they could be drinking bulls piss..lol..
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i think there were some big fat strongmen who did comparable lifts before steroid were invented. if leaving but check out
www.oldtimestrongman.com ..anythign pre 1950 would have to be natural.. well..they could be drinking bulls piss..lol..
:D ::)
there were no naturals after 1916
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you think so? ive always thought that you could get that strong naturally, but you just will be real frat and you wont look very muscular either. some of those guys look like "Lops" but are amazingly strong beastly dudes.
What is "Lops" ?
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:D ::)
there were no naturals after 1916
What month?
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you ain't overhead pressing 350-400 poundsdand pulling 650-700 pound deadlifts for a few reps without "help" regardless of what you look like.
indeed, look has very little to do with who's juicing or not when it comes to these fellas.
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indeed, look has very little to do with who's juicing or not when it comes to these fellas.
what cracks me up is how if a competitor isn't shredded people think he isn't juicing or isn't impressive, NONE of those guys are small in that contest, every one of those guys is thick, they may not be in the condition of someone like Mariusz but no one in that comp. is small.
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They're ALL on the juice. No exceptions. You're living in fantasy land if you think you can compete in the WSM without it. I don't care how gentically gifted you are.
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what cracks me up is how if a competitor isn't shredded people think he isn't juicing or isn't impressive, NONE of those guys are small in that contest, every one of those guys is thick, they may not be in the condition of someone like Mariusz but no one in that comp. is small.
LOL i thought it was funny as hell when mariusz failed the drug test and ppl were like "I knew he was juicing looking like that, now he's out and we can have a fair competition" they honestly believed everyone else was drug free!
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all of these Muthafuckers juiced. if not, then I believe in Santa Claus
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LOL i thought it was funny as hell when mariusz failed the drug test and ppl were like "I knew he was juicing looking like that, now he's out and we can have a fair competition" they honestly believed everyone else was drug free!
wasnt he disqualifeid for cocain?....... there just as natural as the untested powerlifters and the tested olympic lifters, most actualy earn a living as professional strong men..
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wasnt he disqualifeid for cocain?
yes
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Best strong men imo were
1. Bill Kazmaier (6'3 - 340 pounds)
2. Jon Pall Sigmarsson (6'3" - 295 pounds)
3. Geoff Capes (6'6" - 375 pounds)
4. Magnus Ver Magnusson (6'3" - 290 pounds)
Others came close but none were equal to these 4 men.
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wasnt he disqualifeid for cocain?....... there just as natural as the untested powerlifters and the tested olympic lifters, most actualy earn a living as professional strong men..
every strong men is juiced. plain and fucking simple
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They are all lifetime naturals.
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You know fuck all about strongman. Your list is HORRIFIC.
Jason
exactly, no way in hell do Capes or Sigmarrsson belong on there, and NO FUCCKING WAY was Geoff Capes 375 pounds. ::)
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Zydrunas Savickas
Vasyl Virastyuk
Derek Poundstone
Mikhail Koklyaev
Benedikt Magnusson
The best guys right now imo.
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All beans and rice baby, no additives what so ever :-X
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/73514/worlds_strongest_man/
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i think there were some big fat strongmen who did comparable lifts before steroid were invented. if leaving but check out
www.oldtimestrongman.com ..anythign pre 1950 would have to be natural.. well..they could be drinking bulls piss..lol..
The problem with many of those lifts is the judging- much of it isn't credible. For instance you'll have Clean and Jerks called curls, false memories of gym lifts, etc..... Some of the stage lifts were hucksterism like multiple dumbbells that looked the same but were underweighted.
Paul Andersons backlift was a prime example of this.
Many of the older pre WWII lifters were very strong, but they are still 20-25% weaker than their steroidal counterparts.
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Greatest strongman of all -G.Hackenschmidt
(http://www.body-building.ru/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=41338)
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30 mg Halotestin should do the trick ;)
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Greatest strongman of all -G.Hackenschmidt
(http://www.body-building.ru/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=41338)
Hes a thick looking chap,lean to,what era was he from?
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Look at poundstones pic on wikipedia. Some gyno there. Id post it but dont know how. Sorry.
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Hes a thick looking chap,lean to,what era was he from?
Georg Karl Julius Hackenschmidt (July 20, 1878 - February 19, 1968) was an early 20th-century strongman and professional wrestler. Nicknamed "The Russian Lion", Hackenschmidt was actually an Estonian.
The first widely recognized World Heavyweight Champion in wrestling history, Hackenschmidt is believed to be the creator of the professional wrestling version of the Bearhug as well as the originator of the hack squat, which is a squat-deadlift with arms behind the body.Hackenschmidt was also a pioneer in the field of weightlifting. He invented the exercise known as the hack squat, whose name is a reference to his own. Hackenschmidt also helped to popularize many other types of lifts common within the modern training regimen, such as the bench press. During his career, he held numerous weightlifting records, all of which have since been broken.
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G o a t,
Is WSM a sport?
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am I bald ? ::) :D
Yes.
You're ugly too.
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G o a t,
Is WSM a sport?
Well, if it's that shit that used to be on ESPN, where you had to lift the heaviest thing, or do something in the fastest time, I'd say "yes", since an activity being performed at the competition determines the winner. As far as I know, how they look has no bearing on the outcome. As an added bonus, they don't wear thongs.
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Well, if it's that shit that used to be on ESPN, where you had to lift the heaviest thing, or do something in the fastest time, I'd say "yes", since an activity being performed at the competition determines the winner. As far as I know, how they look has no bearing on the outcome. As an added bonus, they don't wear thongs.
True, plus there is no fake tan or oil.
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Well, if it's that shit that used to be on ESPN, where you had to lift the heaviest thing, or do something in the fastest time, I'd say "yes", since an activity being performed at the competition determines the winner. As far as I know, how they look has no bearing on the outcome. As an added bonus, they don't wear thongs.
Goat, I see you're still explaining things to the delusional posters on this board (Chick) who refuse to admit that bb is a glorified pageant.
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Goat, I see you're still explaining things to the delusional posters on this board (Chick) who refuse to admit that bb is a glorified pageant.
My work is never done!
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Yes.
You're ugly too.
Poor little Sebby..He is like a Chihuahua trying to run with the Great Danes , all he can do is yapp yapp yapp yapp ..
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Getbig's very own "Cumdrainer" lifted a 600 lb stone and carried it 300 feet in his front yard to help the landscapers. I'd say that puts him in the genetic elite.
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retard..
ofcourse all of them use steroids.
Son of a bitch, of course not all of them use steroids. Have you missed the part where they are all over 6'1 tall and extreme mesomorphs, you fucking stupid son of a bitch girl?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Savickas needs to be wayy up there.
That fat fuck is one Strong bastard.
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Son of a bitch, of course not all of them use steroids. Have you missed the part where they are all over 6'1 tall and extreme mesomorphs, you fucking stupid son of a bitch ####?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
hahaha wake the fuck up...
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I wouldn't be surprised if some top strongmen didn't juice.
People are born strong. You can tell by their bone structure.
This has nothing to do with steroids.
People with thick bones are naturally very strong, whether they appear especially muscular or not,
because their tendons are also thicker.
I had two brothers help me move once;
they were, in my estimation, about 6'2'' 270, with a thick bone structure.
They could easily curl weight I was squatting with at the time. (275)
They never weight trained seriously, and they didn't have the knowledge or money to acquire steroids.
I could train 10 times as hard and I would never have the kind of strength to curl that weight because my bone structure is not built for it.
So if some guys with the dimensions I described can pull that weight without drugs or serious training;
then it certainly seems feasible to me, that serious athletes blessed with even greater genetics for lifting, could pull much more.
Many of those strongmen athletes are 6'6'' 350 pounds or more.
It's been stated that Mariusz' "bodybuilder physique" is probably indication that he juices, and I agree.
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We should try to voluntarily stop these stupid threads about which sports are drug-free and which athletes are juicing or not.
All or nearly all pro sportsmen juice to a greater or lesser extent. I do not include chess players and race drivers, but purely physical sports, which involve the strength of the muscles, stamina, and so on...
It is not about juicing or not juicing in the pro arena, it is about getting caught or not getting caught - a constant game of cat and mouse with the regulating authorities, like the Olympic committee. And of course, no pro sportsman will admit to it under any circumstances - I think its clear why.
As one pro powerlifter said - they should focus on educating people about steroids and leave them to make their own educated choice instead of focusing on punishing the users and banning substances, which simply creates hurdles and hampers athletic progress, undermining reputation of many sports and confusing young talent.
Arnie mentioned in his book - if steroids were never invented, I am confident that same individuals would still emerge as the champions.
Lets stop giving the subject undue attention.
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To become a pro strongman you must use.
I have not seen ANY amateur go pro without "help."
There is only a few that had the potential to do it as naturals and even they chose the dark side.
They may call it HRT to their friends/family but that just rationalizes it for them.
Would anyone watch if they threw around mediocre weight? ;D
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I wouldn't be surprised if some top strongmen didn't juice.
People are born strong. You can tell by their bone structure.
This has nothing to do with steroids.
People with thick bones are naturally very strong, whether they appear especially muscular or not,
because their tendons are also thicker.
I had two brothers help me move once;
they were, in my estimation, about 6'2'' 270, with a thick bone structure.
They could easily curl weight I was squatting with at the time. (275)
They never weight trained seriously, and they didn't have the knowledge or money to acquire steroids.
I could train 10 times as hard and I would never have the kind of strength to curl that weight because my bone structure is not built for it.
So if some guys with the dimensions I described can pull that weight without drugs or serious training;
then it certainly seems feasible to me, that serious athletes blessed with even greater genetics for lifting, could pull much more.
Many of those strongmen athletes are 6'6'' 350 pounds or more.
It's been stated that Mariusz' "bodybuilder physique" is probably indication that he juices, and I agree.
hahahahaha, easily curling 275? ::)
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hahahahaha, easily curling 275? ::)
the kid is full of shit
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NOT THE ONES WHO ARE DEAD!!!!!!!
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We should try to voluntarily stop these stupid threads about which sports are drug-free and which athletes are juicing or not.
All or nearly all pro sportsmen juice to a greater or lesser extent. I do not include chess players and race drivers, but purely physical sports, which involve the strength of the muscles, stamina, and so on...
It is not about juicing or not juicing in the pro arena, it is about getting caught or not getting caught - a constant game of cat and mouse with the regulating authorities, like the Olympic committee. And of course, no pro sportsman will admit to it under any circumstances - I think its clear why.
As one pro powerlifter said - they should focus on educating people about steroids and leave them to make their own educated choice instead of focusing on punishing the users and banning substances, which simply creates hurdles and hampers athletic progress, undermining reputation of many sports and confusing young talent.
Arnie mentioned in his book - if steroids were never invented, I am confident that same individuals would still emerge as the champions.
Lets stop giving the subject undue attention.
olympic sports are tested. not all sports are dirty like in baseball, fotball or whatever.
and yes i know that gh is hard/maybe impossible to detect in a test.
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Every single one of the WSM competitiors are juicing.
And those who didn't make it to the finals.
And those who didn't win their national-level championships to get there.
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To become a pro strongman you must use.
I have not seen ANY amateur go pro without "help."
There is only a few that had the potential to do it as naturals and even they chose the dark side.
They may call it HRT to their friends/family but that just rationalizes it for them.
Would anyone watch if they threw around mediocre weight? ;D
well even if they throw heavy weights around, still nobody gives a fuck.
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olympic sports are tested. not all sports are dirty like in baseball, fotball or whatever.
and yes i know that gh is hard/maybe impossible to detect in a test.
Oh brother. Another guy who believes drug tested means drug free.
Jason
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Oh brother. Another guy who believes drug tested means drug free.
Jason
Nice truth. I think Victor Conte said something like, "The test are so easy to beat it's like taking candy from a baby." At the advanced levels, there are many ways to get around the testing. The anti-testers are always ahead in technology up to this poin that the test givers. You think the "clear" is the only designer non-detectable steroid out there? I am sure there are many others.
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Oh brother. Another guy who believes drug tested means drug free.
Jason
you should start a thread about this subject Jason----would be interesting to hear about it from somebody in the know
on one hand though I would hate to "out" people who are only performing in a sport and not being a demon "criminal" as the government and ignorant housewives claim---plus Im sure it wouldnt be smart to posting that stuff under your real name
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you should start a thread about this subject Jason----would be interesting to hear about it from somebody in the know
on one hand though I would hate to "out" people who are only performing in a sport and not being a demon "criminal" as the government and ignorant housewives claim---plus Im sure it wouldnt be smart to posting that stuff under your real name
EVERYONE at WSM level is juicing, i don't give a fucck who tests positive or negative, YOU DO NOT OVERHEAD PRESS 375-400, DEADLIFT 700 FOR A FEW REPS AND LIFT 400 PoUND BOULDERS CLEAN.
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A drug free liftetime genetically gifted guy at 6'3 300lbs will never press more than 400lb for 1 rep, deadluift more than 700ish for 1 rep and be under 25% b/f
no those weights are what WSM people rep. Just after watching it oin channel 5 there.
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A drug free liftetime genetically gifted guy at 6'3 300lbs will never press more than 400lb for 1 rep, deadluift more than 700ish for 1 rep and be under 25% b/f
no those weights are what WSM people rep. Just after watching it oin channel 5 there.
Where were you watching that, in the UK?
:D
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A drug free liftetime genetically gifted guy at 6'3 300lbs will never press more than 400lb for 1 rep, deadluift more than 700ish for 1 rep and be under 25% b/f
no those weights are what WSM people rep. Just after watching it oin channel 5 there.
even a genetically gifted guy isn't going to shoulder press 400 for even one rep natural, it's just not going to happen.
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sorry i mean push press.
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Where were you watching that, in the UK?
:D
It's on here in the UK, Channel 5 from 8pm-9pm every night. They're going through the heat stages at the moment and I think the final gets shown on Saturday.
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In my house in an Irish city called Belfast ;D
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It's on here in the UK, Channel 5 from 8pm-9pm every night. They're going through the heat stages at the moment and I think the final gets shown on Saturday.
You ever consider do a strong man event?
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You ever consider do a strong man event?
Nope, because I'm not strong enough. :-\
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Nope, because I'm not strong enough. :-\
;D
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EVERYONE at WSM level is juicing, i don't give a fucck who tests positive or negative, YOU DO NOT OVERHEAD PRESS 375-400, DEADLIFT 700 FOR A FEW REPS AND LIFT 400 PoUND BOULDERS CLEAN.
Not completely true. I know nattys who can do one or two events at the same level as the pros but thats it. For example, I know someone who can jerk over 400lbs and load a 410lb stone but cant hold onto 350lb farmers or hit a 700lb DL. If he could he would be a pro. That complete package is unattainable without "help" though.
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Getbig's very own "Cumdrainer" lifted a 600 lb stone and carried it 300 feet in his front yard to help the landscapers. I'd say that puts him in the genetic elite.
just so we're clear, it was only about 30 feet and i got it off the back of a truck, not deaded off the ground
You and your mom both believe me to be genetically elite now.
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are you a forklift driver kegdrainer?
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are you a forklift driver kegdrainer?
No, just a great imagination.
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No, just a great imagination.
;D
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Not completely true. I know nattys who can do one or two events at the same level as the pros but thats it. For example, I know someone who can jerk over 400lbs and load a 410lb stone but cant hold onto 350lb farmers or hit a 700lb DL. If he could he would be a pro. That complete package is unattainable without "help" though.
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:D
you friends are funny,,power lifters hormonize themselves even more than us,,ANY ONE IN A POWER LIFTING MEET IS HORMONIZED! and those fellas go later on to become strongest man in the world competitors which are hormonized 3 times more than the time they did powerlifting meet,,
rest assured they are all strong even naturally and will demonstrate very good lifts even naturaly when small,,,but the competitors in that competiton called strongest man in the world know the tablet and needle like they know their own ass hole
and! there is no antr estrogen nothing ,,size and strength strength and size ,,,thats the only thing that counts,,90% of bodybuilders cant lift heavy weight and wont lift heavy weight they are all puffed up muscle that shrink in record time the moment they stop homonization because they play with poop,,,
10% of bodybuilders are also powerlifters and thats why ron colman and dorian yates shall always look million times better than jason cutler the worst mr olympia ever
gh15 approved
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and! there is no antr estrogen nothing ,,size and strength strength and size ,,,thats the only thing that counts,,90% of bodybuilders cant lift heavy weight and wont lift heavy weight they are all puffed up muscle that shrink in record time the moment they stop homonization because they play with poop,,,
10% of bodybuilders are also powerlifters and thats why ron colman and dorian yates shall always look million times better than jason cutler the worst mr olympia ever
gh15 approved
seeing you type these words with such respect for the great Dorian Yates and Ron Coleman makes me very happy
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Are there any World's Strongest Men competitors that are not juicing?
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:D
you friends are funny,,power lifters hormonize themselves even more than us,,ANY ONE IN A POWER LIFTING MEET IS HORMONIZED! and those fellas go later on to become strongest man in the world competitors which are hormonized 3 times more than the time they did powerlifting meet,,
rest assured they are all strong even naturally and will demonstrate very good lifts even naturaly when small,,,but the competitors in that competiton called strongest man in the world know the tablet and needle like they know their own ass hole
and! there is no antr estrogen nothing ,,size and strength strength and size ,,,thats the only thing that counts,,90% of bodybuilders cant lift heavy weight and wont lift heavy weight they are all puffed up muscle that shrink in record time the moment they stop homonization because they play with poop,,,
10% of bodybuilders are also powerlifters and thats why ron colman and dorian yates shall always look million times better than jason cutler the worst mr olympia ever
gh15 approved
Franco Columbo 1981 worse Olympian ever then maybe Jay's second win or Chris Dickerson. I thought Jay looked pretty good the first time he won.
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:D
you friends are funny,,power lifters hormonize themselves even more than us,,ANY ONE IN A POWER LIFTING MEET IS HORMONIZED! and those fellas go later on to become strongest man in the world competitors which are hormonized 3 times more than the time they did powerlifting meet,,
rest assured they are all strong even naturally and will demonstrate very good lifts even naturaly when small,,,but the competitors in that competiton called strongest man in the world know the tablet and needle like they know their own ass hole
and! there is no antr estrogen nothing ,,size and strength strength and size ,,,thats the only thing that counts,,90% of bodybuilders cant lift heavy weight and wont lift heavy weight they are all puffed up muscle that shrink in record time the moment they stop homonization because they play with poop,,,
10% of bodybuilders are also powerlifters and thats why ron colman and dorian yates shall always look million times better than jason cutler the worst mr olympia ever
gh15 approved
Happy New Year Mr G :D
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How do you think they are the strongmen?
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There are actually several guys who are very outspoken on this issue and have always claimed to be natty.
Phil Pfister and Magnus come to mind. Magnus has never been huge (yes is he large, I am comparing him to someone like Poundstone) and gained the weight over a long period of time. Pfister does not exactly have a pleasing pysique and it took him a long time to reach the top. Brian Shaw is also natural, which is scary but true. Same as bodybuilding, some guys have the genetics, some don't.
Monopoly
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Mariusz dont need pussy steroids mate
Bacon and chocolat make Mariusz strong bitchez !!!!
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There are actually several guys who are very outspoken on this issue and have always claimed to be natty.
Phil Pfister and Magnus come to mind. Magnus has never been huge (yes is he large, I am comparing him to someone like Poundstone) and gained the weight over a long period of time. Pfister does not exactly have a pleasing pysique and it took him a long time to reach the top. Brian Shaw is also natural, which is scary but true. Same as bodybuilding, some guys have the genetics, some don't.
Monopoly
you cant take anyone on their word.
these are human beings, not angels.
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All...even the guys who finish dead last...actually, they probably juice more.
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Yes, Mariusz eats 7 pounds of bacon daily and curls 275 for 10 easy reps!
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There are actually several guys who are very outspoken on this issue and have always claimed to be natty.
Phil Pfister and Magnus come to mind. Magnus has never been huge (yes is he large, I am comparing him to someone like Poundstone) and gained the weight over a long period of time. Pfister does not exactly have a pleasing pysique and it took him a long time to reach the top. Brian Shaw is also natural, which is scary but true. Same as bodybuilding, some guys have the genetics, some don't.
Monopoly
Magnus benches 600 pounds for reps. 600 pounds for 3 clean reps.
He may not look "huge" in a video, but when a guy like that stands in front of you, you can't believe how big those motherfuckers are. Trust me I know.
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10% of bodybuilders are also powerlifters and thats why ron colman and dorian yates shall always look million times better than jason cutler the worst mr olympia ever
gh15 approved
Noo...Cutler looked better than Yates, ask Hulkster 8)
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yep,, u realy have no idea how big they are till u meet them in person...... even the so called shitty physique types are collossal, thick as fuck, wide and generaly massive,,,,,, some of the biggest hands and heads ive ever seen have belonged to strongmen, i know one or two from my end of the country who used to go to the same needle exchange as me!