Never happen.
What if it did? Wouldn't that make him the most popular president ever? I mean who the fuck do we think we are kidding trying to intervene over there? They are fighting an irrational religious war, they will not stop, no matter how much we try to "help".
Don't know if it would lead to him being the most popular President ever. It would probably lead to a massive war and multiple genocides. Knowing that the West isn't supporting Israel, the Muslims will miraculously have their balls drop and try to pull what they did in 1948 and Israel, feeling that their backs are against the wall, would lash out like their capable of. It'd be a gigantic clusterfuck.
Our country is a clusterfuck though. Why worry about them so much? Now is the time to take care of ourselves. Many of you guys live in areas not as greatly affected as I do, but this economy is getting bad. I know guys who were making 200 grand plus only 4 years ago and have lost everything. Not to mention the auto industry and the soon to be decline of the middle class in this country.
I agree with cutting back our support. Should cut it back on everyone. We dump billions into the Middle East and they still hate us. They could go fuck themselves and wallow in their own filth. They'll be singing a different tune when the oil runs out and the rest of the world tells them to get bent.
What if it did? Wouldn't that make him the most popular president ever? I mean who the fuck do we think we are kidding trying to intervene over there? They are fighting an irrational religious war, they will not stop, no matter how much we try to "help".
Absolutely back out of there. People are starving here, people are losing equity in their homes(this really fucks up consumer spending among other things) and losing their jobs. Fuck the middle east, lets help our own.
I hate to break this to you, but the housing market is screwed for a long long time.
I agree with cutting back our support. Should cut it back on everyone. We dump billions into the Middle East and they still hate us. They could go fuck themselves and wallow in their own filth. They'll be singing a different tune when the oil runs out and the rest of the world tells them to get bent.
We dump much less money in the rest of the Arab states combined (twofold) than in Israel (apart from Iraq and Afghanistan, which we've fucked up and we're now rebuilding).
We dump much less money in the rest of the Arab states combined (twofold) than in Israel (apart from Iraq and Afghanistan, which we've fucked up and we're now rebuilding).
Who Gets U.S. Foreign Aid
The U.S. will give an estimated $26 billion in foreign aid in 2008—70% more than when President George W. Bush took office (the figure doesn’t include funds related to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan). More than 150 countries get financial assistance from the U.S. Here are the six that received the most this year.
COUNTRY AID PURPOSE
1. Israel $2.4 billion Virtually all of this money is used to buy weapons (up to 75% made in the U.S.). Beginning in 2009, the U.S. plans to give $30 billion over 10 years.
2. Egypt $1.7 billion $1.3 billion to buy weapons; $103 million for education; $74 million for health care; $45 million to promote civic participation and human rights.
3. Pakistan $798 million $330 million for security efforts, including military-equipment upgrades and border security; $20 million for infrastructure.
4. Jordan $688 million $326 million to fight terrorism and promote regional stability through equipment upgrades and training; $163 million cash payment to the Jordanian government.
5. Kenya $586 million $501 million to fight HIV/AIDS through drug treatment and abstinence education and to combat malaria; $15 million for agricultural development; $5.4 million for programs that promote government accountability.
6. South Africa $574 million $557 million to fight TB and HIV/AIDS; $3 million for education.
7. Mexico $551 million
8. Colombia $541 million .
9. Nigeria $491 million
10. Sudan $479 million
http://www.parade.com/news/intelligence-report/archive/who-gets-us-foreign-aid.html
Much less money combined? Man, you're just a flat out liar, bro. Start doing some research. Most of the money we give Israel ends up coming back to us anyway. You're really showing just how clueless you really are.
I'd personally be concerned about the $480 million going to Sudan. That situation is the most gigantic clusterfuck I've ever seen. I can't even fathom where half of that money has gone considering the situation there.
That the US would no longer get involved with Israel and Palestine? They are going to keep fighting for decades if not longer, so why should we give a shit what they do? Any money being spent over there should help Americans in need or be used to create jobs imo. You guys think gas prices would skyrocket? Is this feasible even?
Who Gets U.S. Foreign Aid
The U.S. will give an estimated $26 billion in foreign aid in 2008—70% more than when President George W. Bush took office (the figure doesn’t include funds related to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan). More than 150 countries get financial assistance from the U.S. Here are the six that received the most this year.
COUNTRY AID PURPOSE
1. Israel $2.4 billion Virtually all of this money is used to buy weapons (up to 75% made in the U.S.). Beginning in 2009, the U.S. plans to give $30 billion over 10 years.
2. Egypt $1.7 billion $1.3 billion to buy weapons; $103 million for education; $74 million for health care; $45 million to promote civic participation and human rights.
3. Pakistan $798 million $330 million for security efforts, including military-equipment upgrades and border security; $20 million for infrastructure.
4. Jordan $688 million $326 million to fight terrorism and promote regional stability through equipment upgrades and training; $163 million cash payment to the Jordanian government.
5. Kenya $586 million $501 million to fight HIV/AIDS through drug treatment and abstinence education and to combat malaria; $15 million for agricultural development; $5.4 million for programs that promote government accountability.
6. South Africa $574 million $557 million to fight TB and HIV/AIDS; $3 million for education.
7. Mexico $551 million
8. Colombia $541 million .
9. Nigeria $491 million
10. Sudan $479 million
http://www.parade.com/news/intelligence-report/archive/who-gets-us-foreign-aid.html
Much less money combined? Man, you're just a flat out liar, bro. Start doing some research. Most of the money we give Israel ends up coming back to us anyway. You're really showing just how clueless you really are.
I'd personally be concerned about the $480 million going to Sudan. That situation is the most gigantic clusterfuck I've ever seen. I can't even fathom where half of that money has gone considering the situation there.
Israel (http://kainsa.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/a-conservative-estimate-of-total-direct-us-aid-to-israel-108-billion/) | 108 billion | |
Egypt (http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0412/p07s01-wome.html) | 53 billion | |
Pakistan (http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/08/pakistan_aid_numbers.html) | 13 billion | |
Jordan (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/programmes/wtwta/taking_part/html/jordan.stm) | 17 billion | |
Sudan (http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-13371.html) | 6 billion | |
Indonesia (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=USAID) | 1 billion |
That the US would no longer get involved with Israel and Palestine? They are going to keep fighting for decades if not longer, so why should we give a shit what they do? Any money being spent over there should help Americans in need or be used to create jobs imo. You guys think gas prices would skyrocket? Is this feasible even?
AGREE 100% there are thousands of capable AMERICANS who dont have jobs, who cant pay the exhorbitant college fees, need medical care but cant pay the ridiculous amounts, shitty roads, bridges and infrastructure, etc etc,,
yet we are GIVING ISRAEL BILLIONS of dollars and all we get back is millions who hate us. also we dump BILLIONS EACH MONTH into iraq.
what a fucking joke. a real president would say straight up, 'we are going to spend our money on AMERICANS, let the middle east do what they want and israel, go fuck yourselves we arent propping you worthless bastards up anymore'
[...]Slapper, what you conveniently ignore is the fact that 75%+ of the foreign aid we give Israel comes right back to us in the form of weapon purchases.
The Arab countries we give foreign aid to turn around and put it in their pockets. $53 billion to Egypt? That country is a fucking shithole that breeds extremist, i.e. Zawahiri. ::)
Berzerk tires hard to point out every negative thing in the news done by muslims (which is fine) but then gets all worked up if anyone brings up the atrocities, or any negative thing whatsoever done on the part of the israelis during any time in their short, violent, hate-filled history, and has absolutely no problems with america wasting billions of dollars on them when all we get in return is negative and hurtful to us.
we spend more $ in afghanistan and iraq than we do in israel.
Isr is only #3 on the list.
and they're the only cuntry in the region that would put birds up russia or china's ass should they ever hit us with a surprise.
No, I do. I also believe that we need to unilaterally cut back on our support to EVERYONE. The day I care about an Israeli or ANY foreigner more than I care about an American is the day I kill myself. I'm just tired of reading about the bullshit with Muslims. These animals can't even get along with each other, so why should we care about anything they do? Just look at Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. They're content blowing each other up over the fact that one is Shi'a and the other is Sunni. I'm all for letting them do it to their heart's content. But I feel that regardless of supporting Israel or not, the Muslim world will have something to bitch about. They'll just move onto the next thing on their list of gripes with us. That's how they work.
All this news coverage over a few hundred dead Palestinians. Nevermind the fact that MUSLIM janjaweed has been staging a systematic ethnic cleansing of African blacks using rape, torture, etc in the Sudan for years now. How many thousands upon thousands have died from that? No one cares because it involves Muslims and blacks though, two of the more ill-received demographics.
Frankly, I hope they cut the bullshit on both sides because if it keeps up I think it's going to start covering up the real problems plaguing us, like our collapsing economy, which I think is 100000x more important than some dead Palestinians.