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i was wondering has anyone ever lifted and smoked weed before? i have a friend who does this once every week and tells me that it helps relax his muscles and all after a hard week of working out. so any1 else do this or heard of it?
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smoke weed before you lift. great workouts. tons of energy, great mind+muscle connection.
even better if the gym is full of people, the that weed is gonna make you bust your ass even harder, as if everyone there is your audience.
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Not good during, takes away energy and focus. Uppers would be a lot better. Smoking's definitely good after the fact.
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Taking a hit, or two, before a workout will not give a great workout and tons of energy. And just the extreme opposite of a mind-body (very overworked term) connection. Unless you lace it with with PCP (any form), which will make your super strong for a short period. But rather than working out you may prefer to fight, rip your eyes out or other strange stuff, which is not all that cool.
Uppers (higher grade or speed?) may attack the CNS way too much for a productive workout. You can lose focus because you have to do a 100 things at the same time, in your deranged state, and working out will not be of prime importance. Mild uppers (street or legal) could help direct focus. Some can be brought OTC. Good Luck.
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Uppers (higher grade or speed?) may attack the CNS way too much for a productive workout.
BS, widely used in BB and NFL for extreme exertion.
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Being somewhat familiar with the NFL (relatives, former and present and two family friends who shall be drafted this year from college...$$$$$), if a player is a user of higher grade stuff or speed he will be looking for a new job right away. Plus the potential of being the guest of the Graybar Hotel. Last thing the NFL wants is junkie players. The new Comm'ish is very, very strong on that. Check out some of the recent fines for just minor infractions on the players. Random pee and/or blood test is a gamble for most guy's. Even off season testing for some.
Doubt very many top Pro's/men are users of speed or higher grade stuff before working out. "Widely used" is a strong statement, unless you have witnessed such tweaking yourself. Drop a tab before a workout and see how it goes for you. Please let all of us know. Good Luck.
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smoke weed before workign out all the time. it works GREAT. and i know of a few pros who do it, and also a few top amatuers as well. one pro ive seen it personally, and one top amatuer ive seen it personally. im sure weve alll heard the stories about cormier and victor m smoking weedand working out.
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Being somewhat familiar with the NFL (relatives, former and present and two family friends who shall be drafted this year from college...$$$$$), if a player is a user of higher grade stuff or speed he will be looking for a new job right away. Plus the potential of being the guest of the Graybar Hotel. Last thing the NFL wants is junkie players. The new Comm'ish is very, very strong on that.
Fail. Referencing a couple of examples you know, and what the commish decides to do now has nothing to do with what has been done the past few decades. You should really try to get up to speed in the new year man, educate yourself on some sports history you missed.
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Seems you might be living in the past 5 decades. Trying to prove me wrong (and anyone else who may dare disagree with you) is eating away at you or you are just plain delusional. In any event, you lose. Just making things up to suit yourself, or to make yourself appear the expert is going no where fast. Failure from the start.
And might we have an example of when and how the "widely used" high grade uppers/speed are used by BB'ers for workouts. Do you have personal first hand knowledge or are you making up stuff again? Or did you read about it a 30 years ago in one of you old muscle mags?
And might I add, Good Luck.
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smoking weed before a workout is great, especially on a fun workout like chest, shoulders, or arms. leg day can be tough to come to terms with when you walk into the gym high, but i have never had being high affect my mentality when working out negatively. however, i will admit smoking after the gym is much more enjoyable.
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smoke weed before workign out all the time. it works GREAT. and i know of a few pros who do it, and also a few top amatuers as well. one pro ive seen it personally, and one top amatuer ive seen it personally. im sure weve alll heard the stories about cormier and victor m smoking weedand working out.
Never seen it done before but I don't know if I'd use Cormier as my example for anything. It seems like his love for weed and other drugs led him to care less and less about bodybuilding.
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I use to go to town with a huge blunt, so much so that the reg. person wouldnt want to leave the room , much less work out. But after you start working out the PUMP is so much greater it feels incredible.... however those days are behind me as i sought help for that addiction and have been clean for 72 days now.
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i sought help for that addiction and have been clean for 72 days now.
good on ya !
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I use to go to town with a huge blunt, so much so that the reg. person wouldnt want to leave the room , much less work out. But after you start working out the PUMP is so much greater it feels incredible.... however those days are behind me as i sought help for that addiction and have been clean for 72 days now.
cool dude. weed can be addictive too. myself ive learned to control it after i took a looonng break. now im able to limit myself to maybe oce a week once every two weeks. the firs day or two after smoking i always want to smoke again, but i just will myself through it, like its a food craving and im dieting, then it goes away.
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I couldn't imagine smoking before a workout, after...I've done that many times.
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wow i'm surprised at how many people do this all the time. i used to smoke before working out when I was first starting to lift but that was just because i smoked all the time. it was pretty good for mind muscle connection. however i would not do that now. for doing any sort of high intensity work out I would not recommend smoking weed at all. it just makes you lazy and tired and i would not want to be throwing around heavy weights while stoned. i also would go so far as to say you will get a rep or two (or more) less than you would sober on most exercises (which kind of makes going to the gym pointless). would you drink alcohol before a work out? why not just have a red bull?
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wow i'm surprised at how many people do this all the time. i used to smoke before working out when I was first starting to lift but that was just because i smoked all the time. it was pretty good for mind muscle connection. however i would not do that now. for doing any sort of high intensity work out I would not recommend smoking weed at all. it just makes you lazy and tired and i would not want to be throwing around heavy weights while stoned. i also would go so far as to say you will get a rep or two (or more) less than you would sober on most exercises (which kind of makes going to the gym pointless). would you drink alcohol before a work out? why not just have a red bull?
that was never true for me. in fact = id get more reps.
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that was never true for me. in fact = id get more reps.
does that include heavy bench press and squats
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does that include heavy bench press and squats
i train to failure in the 8-12 rep range... i use weight heavy enough that ill fail somewhere in there... but for that amount of reps tha actual poundage doesnt get insanely hevay...but for it is is very heavy to get that many reps..
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i train to failure in the 8-12 rep range... i use weight heavy enough that ill fail somewhere in there... but for that amount of reps tha actual poundage doesnt get insanely hevay...but for it is is very heavy to get that many reps..
ah okay i didn't mean what would be considered 'heavy' just what was heavy for you. so you do squat after smoking weed with a weight that will make you fail at 8-12 reps and think that it improves your performance?
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ah okay i didn't mean what would be considered 'heavy' just what was heavy for you. so you do squat after smoking weed with a weight that will make you fail at 8-12 reps and think that it improves your performance?
not my performance, but stimulate hypertrophy. yes. ill do power squats on a machine. i feel its superior to free weight squats for quad development.
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I use to go to town with a huge blunt, so much so that the reg. person wouldnt want to leave the room , much less work out. But after you start working out the PUMP is so much greater it feels incredible.... however those days are behind me as i sought help for that addiction and have been clean for 72 days now.
Nice going bro!!
Keep it up,much better to be clean and sober.
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if you can count to 12 high the weed isn't very good.
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Smoking weed generally leads to laziness, not today or tomorrow maybe but before too long you may find yourself watching cartoons downing ice cream instead of the gym.
PS. on the "speed" argument.... have any of you really seen a tweaker? They can't lift
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I like to puff after my PWO shake....I heat one helluva PWO meal :D :D :D
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Never smoked hash/weed before a workout (BTW, i allmost never do anyway) but there have been a few occasions when i have had an extremely stressfull day and i have taken some xanax before the gym and i think it helped me to focus a bit more and it also helped me to get to the gym in the first place. When extremely stressed out (due to work or what ever)... If anyone has ever done this or will do it, i'd say 1 mg is an ok dose, certainly no more than that. As far as uppers go, when i was younger e/c/a was great before the gym, but these days it just makes me feel "jittery and nervous".
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You guys must be smoking some crap weed if you can work out on it. Back in the day when I did that I didn't want to do anything other than eat.
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You guys must be smoking some crap weed if you can work out on it. Back in the day when I did that I didn't want to do anything other than eat.
Ya i agree, though some here claim it energizes them. ???
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You guys must be smoking some crap weed if you can work out on it. Back in the day when I did that I didn't want to do anything other than eat.
actually i think its the opposite. when i smoke some shitty regs i immediately get a burnt and tired feeling, and would much rather be on the couch than in the gym. but when i smoke some good shit, my mind is stimulated, thoughts are going through my head, and it takes a while for me to get burnt. i just hit my bong a few times before my last arm workout the other day, and it was great! every set i did until failure, focusing and meditating with my eyes closed, inviting the pain and burn. i kept going and going with forced reps and some drop sets, never wanting the set to end. AWESOME WORKOUT.
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actually i think its the opposite. when i smoke some shitty regs i immediately get a burnt and tired feeling, and would much rather be on the couch than in the gym. but when i smoke some good shit, my mind is stimulated, thoughts are going through my head, and it takes a while for me to get burnt. i just hit my bong a few times before my last arm workout the other day, and it was great! every set i did until failure, focusing and meditating with my eyes closed, inviting the pain and burn. i kept going and going with forced reps and some drop sets, never wanting the set to end. AWESOME WORKOUT.
I would love to experience that but the stronger it is the less focused and aggressive i would be, it's a total distraction. I'm guessing that's the majority. Uppers would be a better choice.
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I use to smoke all the time in high school and be able to train heavy no problem. Nowadays it just gets me lightheaded especially on leg day or doing deads. Maybe if you're doing a light day or just sticking to bi's and tri's it can help with concentration.
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I can't do it before a lift. Afterward always... :)
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I use to smoke all the time in high school and be able to train heavy no problem. Nowadays it just gets me lightheaded especially on leg day or doing deads. Maybe if you're doing a light day or just sticking to bi's and tri's it can help with concentration.
used to be the same for me but mostly in college...today i can barely handle two hits and to think about going to the gym after smoking ha, yeah right
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Why don't you do your cardio stoned, dipshits..
GHB and Perc b4 a workout is the only way to work.
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Mary J lowers testosterone and raises estrogen.
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Wouldn't smoking before a workout make it hard to breathe during?
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Why don't you do your cardio stoned, dipshits..
GHB and Perc b4 a workout is the only way to work.
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every now and then...a perc can really help sometimes
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Did back the other day after smoking, lovin the pump and it feels like I can concentrate better on working out the muscles I have targeted. However I will admit I was always 1-2 reps short on my last 2 sets or each exercise compared to my norm but again, the pump really was staying with me. So in conclusion: no way would I "everyday it" but I think I will do it once a month to keep things interesting.
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The science says the weed is a depressant therefore it's of no use prior to a workout. If you are young you might like it, but other than that if you use it, it should be strictly after (helps you eat)
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The science says the weed is a depressant hallucinogen therefore it's of no use prior to a workout. If you are young you might like it, but other than that if you use it, it should be strictly after (helps you eat)
Fixed.
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Fixed.
sorry Brother! I was working from info from my 5th grade in 1975
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sorry Brother! I was working from info from my 5th grade in 1975
Actually don't feel bad bro. Although it is a hallucinogen aka an "all arounder" there is debate on if it has a stimulant effect or a depressant effect. It can have either depending on the user and there current emotional state at the time of use. So you were not completely off.
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works great a few puffs before puts you in the zone great work outs if anybody says different thay are queer and stupid
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works great a few puffs before puts you in the zone great work outs if anybody says different thay are queer and stupid
Well that certainly settles it. ::)
Ignoring idiots like the above and being serious, I suppose anything in moderation wouldn't be too deleterious.
However, it's hard to imagine weed being beneficial to actual (not perceived) performance.
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cue chainsaw going on about his preworkout routine of smoking 27 joints, giant snowball of cocaine and 144 beers.
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The science says the weed is a depressant therefore it's of no use prior to a workout. If you are young you might like it, but other than that if you use it, it should be strictly after (helps you eat)
Agree. It relaxes you big time and all you want to do after a good smoke is eat and kick back to watch a trippy movie or whatever. When I train, I want to be focused and tense, so I can lift hard and heavy. So I'd take some caffeine pills with strong black coffee to get a good kick. After training, when you want to relax and eat, smoking is great cause it makes you eat more and sleep better / deeper for longer.
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Sativa Vs. Indica
Major difference...
Sativa =much more energetic and you can get shit done
Indica=much more relaxed, zoned out feeling
Most of the weed grown has more indica strains because it grows faster...Pharmaceutical grown Sativa strain weed WILL NOT make you sit around and eat...
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Mary J lowers testosterone and raises estrogen.
and I'd heard that mj & licorice were both effectively chemical castration.
Is that why the Dutch are so laid back?
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Sativa Vs. Indica
Major difference...
Sativa =much more energetic and you can get shit done
Indica=much more relaxed, zoned out feeling
Most of the weed grown has more indica strains because it grows faster...Pharmaceutical grown Sativa strain weed WILL NOT make you sit around and eat...
very true. my freind has a bud card and gets sativa from the club.
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Smoke afterward during the evening for a good nights sleep.
Weed before a workout especially if its a blunt make you pretty fucking weak.
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It decreases your testosterone guys, no one serious about lifting should be smoking weed.
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marijuana doesnt effect testosterone or any other bodybuilding-important hormones.
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I couldn't work out worth a shit high, felt lazy and didn't want to be there.
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marijuana doesnt effect testosterone or any other bodybuilding-important hormones.
You, thombz, are wrong there.
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You, thombz, are wrong there.
Bill lewellyn did a big write up about the effects of marijuana on the bodybuilder. it was published in MD a while back, maybe two years ago. He used studies and the like, real scientific stuff, no bullshit......as lewlellyn always does it..... and the outcome was that marijuana has no negative hormonal effects on testosterone or anything else
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Bill lewellyn did a big write up about the effects of marijuana on the bodybuilder. it was published in MD a while back, maybe two years ago. He used studies and the like, real scientific stuff, no bullshit......as lewlellyn always does it..... and the outcome was that marijuana has no negative hormonal effects on testosterone or anything else
Thanks for the update, you may be correct. However, I'd rather not risk lowering my testosterone over what one write-up on MD claims just to get a cheap high.
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I have read it elevates Estrogen. :-\
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marijuana doesnt effect testosterone or any other bodybuilding-important hormones.
I expected more from you tbombz. This is very upsetting. Time to hit the books and research articles. A rare misstep.
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The key is not smoking too much. Heavier indica strains will give you couch lock, detract you from your workout and make you slothful. Heady sativas will give you a zippy high, your mind will be racing, the mind-muscle connection will be unlike anything else (aside from maybe speed and nasty shit), you will probably even lift heavier because of the stronger mind-muscle connection.
I am fortunate to live in BC where I can get tons of strains. I have friends who get name brand strains from compassion clubs so I know exactly what to expect. I've found that heady sativas are the best. The heavier indica strains are okay too, and it really helps to loosen you up. But if there's a heavier ratio of cannabinoids to THC then you'll be tired and slothful. So many people think that smoking weed makes you too lazy to lift, but that's because they're smoking shitty weed or just too much. You only need one or two puffs. I take a puff before my workouts and always lift with insane intensity. When I don't smoke is when I often feel less motivated, but I do muster up the energy and motivation to have a good workout.
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The key is not smoking too much. Heavier indica strains will give you couch lock, detract you from your workout and make you slothful. Heady sativas will give you a zippy high, your mind will be racing, the mind-muscle connection will be unlike anything else (aside from maybe speed and nasty shit), you will probably even lift heavier because of the stronger mind-muscle connection.
I am fortunate to live in BC where I can get tons of strains. I have friends who get name brand strains from compassion clubs so I know exactly what to expect. I've found that heady sativas are the best. The heavier indica strains are okay too, and it really helps to loosen you up. But if there's a heavier ratio of cannabinoids to THC then you'll be tired and slothful. So many people think that smoking weed makes you too lazy to lift, but that's because they're smoking shitty weed or just too much. You only need one or two puffs. I take a puff before my workouts and always lift with insane intensity. When I don't smoke is when I often feel less motivated, but I do muster up the energy and motivation to have a good workout.
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Bill lewellyn did a big write up about the effects of marijuana on the bodybuilder. it was published in MD a while back, maybe two years ago. He used studies and the like, real scientific stuff, no bullshit......as lewlellyn always does it..... and the outcome was that marijuana has no negative hormonal effects on testosterone or anything else
Funny , there are other studies out there to say it raises estrogen
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Who the fuck cares about endogenous testosterone anway ? ;)
I smoke quite a lot but never before a workout - if you're smoking before a workout it usually feels pretty intense and everything but in reality you're not really pushing yourself to the limits - this is just my observation.
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The only drugs that would help in the gym, with the exception of steroids, are mild stimulants. Everything else is a hindrance.
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The only drugs that would help in the gym, with the exception of steroids, are mild stimulants. Everything else is a hindrance.
Exactly.
The resident potheads might not want to hear that but it's unquestionably the truth.
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Exactly.
The resident potheads might not want to hear that but it's unquestionably the truth.
Smoking marijuana makes me dizzy and then sleepy. I don't see how it could possibly help in the gym. Just a big waste of time.
Painkillers might help a little, however.
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Funny , there are other studies out there to say it raises estrogen
sure, lewlellyn mentioned its been shown to have a little effect on estrogen. boosting it a bit. thats a positive thing however.
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The only drugs that would help in the gym, with the exception of steroids, are mild stimulants. Everything else is a hindrance.
Because.. you say so? LMFAO!!! That's not close minded at all. ;D