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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: SinCitysmallGUY on January 05, 2009, 07:56:03 AM
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In the nearly seven minutes it took for him to beat the Brazilian legend he idolized, Frank Mir looked like the best MMA heavyweight on the planet.
Demonstrating striking skills that should make many of today's top American heavyweight boxers envious, Mir picked apart Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira in the best performance of his eight-year career to earn the UFC interim heavyweight title.
Mir has breathed the rarified air of UFC titleholder before, after beating Tim Sylvia at UFC 48, but never had he looked the part of a lethal striker capable of dominating the division's best.
Despite a remarkable comeback from his well-documented 2004 motorcycle accident, Mir had struggled to find solid footing among the sport's top heavyweights, with lingering questions about his commitment and conditioning. After beating both Brock Lesnar and Nogueira in 2008, those questions have been answered to set up a highly marketable rematch with Lesnar.
While no home for Lesnar-Mir II has been announced, UFC 97 in Montreal seems a likely destination. With the UFC schedule seemingly set through March, the April 18 show at Bell Centre appears to be the first opportunity to reunite Lesnar and Mir to decide the UFC's undisputed heavyweight king. And, the fight has the ingredients to produce a stellar pay-per-view number for the UFC.
With Lesnar at the top card, the show is guaranteed to sell well. In 2008, UFC events featuring Lesnar generated more than 2.2 million PPV buys. The only other UFC fighter to exceed 2 million buys in a calendar year was Tito Ortiz in 2006.
Lesnar's star power will draw for the foreseeable future, and Mir's lights-out effort against Nogueira ups the ante in the rematch. Following his fight against Randy Couture, conventional wisdom suggested that Lesnar now owned the skills and, perhaps more importantly, the patience to handle Mir a second time around. However, Mir has been subsequently reincarnated, thanks in large part to stand-up coach Ken Hahn, into a boxer who also carries a black belt in jiu-jitsu.
With his win over Nogueira, Mir has made the rematch with Lesnar a much more interesting fight, and pairing the rematch with a proposed Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites bout for the middleweight title would be ideal for the UFC. The company would have its most popular PPV fighter on the same card with its best fighter to help get more exposure for the Brazilian middleweight champion.
Lesnar-Mir I, which also featured a welterweight title fight between Georges St. Pierre and Jon Fitch, produced 625,000 buys. With a three-part "UFC Primetime" series that the UFC is using to promote the St. Pierre-B.J. Penn rematch to push the fight, along with its usual advertising blitz, the UFC could generate more than 750,000 buys with Lesnar-Mir II.
That buy rate would make it one of the top five PPV shows in UFC history.
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When St Pierre fought Fitch Lesnar was fighting Heath Herring that night, not Frank Mir, right? That must have been a misprint.
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I saw that when reading it and meant to fix it, but the dogs were rough housing and I got distracted.. Oh well....
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I saw that when reading it and meant to fix it, but the dogs were rough housing and I got distracted.. Oh well....
Did you write all that ???
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I don't think Mir will be able to surprise Lesnar the way he did the first time.
My guess is that Mir either will get knocked out or win late, round three or later.
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Did you write all that ???
No but I read what I post.. It's from Bloodyelbow.com
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I don't think Mir will be able to surprise Lesnar the way he did the first time.
My guess is that Mir either will get knocked out or win late, round three or later.
there's a dozen submissions that Mir can surprise Brock with. And, he can also inflict damage standing up. I give a slight edge to Mir on this one...
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don't know who I'll pick when the time comes, but I'm pretty confident that Mir (the way he studies and analyzes fight tapes) is gonna learn more about Brock than Brock will learn about Frank..
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don't know who I'll pick when the time comes, but I'm pretty confident that Mir (the way he studies and analyzes fight tapes) is gonna learn more about Brock than Brock will learn about Frank..
Brock has to be puzzled as to how to put a game plan together for this fight. If he takes him down, he better be ready for an onslaught of submission attempts. If he stands, he better be ready for a better striking game than he currently has. His best chance is a quick takedown and G&P. But, I'm sure Mir is ready for this....
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Brock has to be puzzled as to how to put a game plan together for this fight. If he takes him down, he better be ready for an onslaught of submission attempts. If he stands, he better be ready for a better striking game than he currently has. His best chance is a quick takedown and G&P. But, I'm sure Mir is ready for this....
that's pretty much how I see it
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No way Mir can survive another standup atempt with Brock, look at their first fight, Mir spent 90% of it on his back getting pounded, if Lesnar hadn't been green to submissions he would have killed Mir.
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No way Mir can survive another standup atempt with Brock, look at their first fight, Mir spent 90% of it on his back getting pounded, if Lesnar hadn't been green to submissions he would have killed Mir.
If they stay standing, I think Mir picks Brock apart. If it goes to the ground, Frank will have to wether the G&P, avoid getting hurt and start the sub game.