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Title: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 05, 2009, 01:28:25 PM
What is the Best book on Nutrution and meals? I have the best book on bodybuilding; Arnolds Encyclopedia of Modern day Bodybuilding but has anyone read any books on nutrution other then in college. I thought about looking at some of Chris Acetos books but would like some input before i start choosing which one would be the "best" one.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2009, 07:06:23 PM
there was one out yrs ago called no pun intended' rock hard'and had good simple breakdowns,i was at barnes and noble and there was a huge book on bbing just came out ,muscle mag i think made it,sorry forgot name.u can't miss it ,it's thick.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: tbombz on January 05, 2009, 07:39:10 PM
get yoruself a book for students that explains basic metabolism and metabolic hormones and such. thats better than any nutrition book youll ever get. once you understand those basic ideas, then you can devise your ow nutrition plan based on what you would like to do.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 05, 2009, 08:58:48 PM
Thanks bro...i will see if i can find it on the net
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 05, 2009, 08:59:51 PM
get yoruself a book for students that explains basic metabolism and metabolic hormones and such. thats better than any nutrition book youll ever get. once you understand those basic ideas, then you can devise your ow nutrition plan based on what you would like to do.

Thanks...i will look for one of those instead. I am sure that i can find one online.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: atombombbis on January 05, 2009, 09:09:40 PM
What is the Best book on Nutrution and meals? I have the best book on bodybuilding; Arnolds Encyclopedia of Modern day Bodybuilding but has anyone read any books on nutrution other then in college. I thought about looking at some of Chris Acetos books but would like some input before i start choosing which one would be the "best" one.


get chris acetos books. they are very very easy to read and he literally covers everything you need to know. he makes it really simple.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 05, 2009, 09:29:01 PM

get chris acetos books. they are very very easy to read and he literally covers everything you need to know. he makes it really simple.

I seen those off Jay Cuters site. Which one do you recommend?
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: stuntmovie on January 06, 2009, 09:13:40 AM
Chris Arceto books:

Understanding Bodybuilding Nutrition and Training..... $19.95 (Amazon.com)
Everything You Need to Know About Fat Loss .............$19.95 (Amazon.com)
Championship Bodybuilding ........................ ............ $24.35 (Amazon.com)

Might even be less expensive if you did a search on eBay.com

Anyone ever get a chance to read "Better Than Steroids" and care to elaborate on what those substances are? Book photo shown below:
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: stuntmovie on January 06, 2009, 09:27:44 AM
While we are on this subject, would anyone who has gone through a couple of pre-contest-stage diets, care to elaborate on what type of diet works best for an ultimate contest condition?

Many years ago one of the top and most respected bodybuilders/gym owner would recommend that any new gym member reduce his/her body-fat percentage to a relatively low figure (I forget that exact percentage) before starting a strict pre-contest routine, so most of the gym members  I knew would reduce their daily caloric intake to approximately 1,500 and increase their aerobic activity to reduce their bodyfat. Once that desired level was achieved, then and only then would he recommend a dedicated bodybuilding program.

Aerobic activity consisted of a minimum of 40 minutes with a heart rate level within the "fat burning realm" which depended on the trainee's age.

This is all old stuff so any new thoughts on the subject matter would be appreciated .... How to Lose Body-fat and Gain Ripped Muscle Mass Through Diet and Exercise in the Shortest Time Possible - to put it in a nut-shell.

Has anyone else noticed that almost all diet books can be reduced to approximately 1/20 their size and still present the material that is important for the reader?  A good majority of these books can be summed up in the following words, "EAT LESS, EXERCISE MORE!", but no one would spend $20+ for a one page book.

Thanks, S
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 06, 2009, 04:27:14 PM
I just ordered Macrobolic Nutrition: Priming Your Body to Build Muscle & Burn Fat, hoping that it is a good one!!
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: tbombz on January 06, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
I just ordered Macrobolic Nutrition: Priming Your Body to Build Muscle & Burn Fat, hoping that it is a good one!!
its written by the owner of MHP supplement company...as far as whats inside it..i have no idea..
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: AVBG on January 06, 2009, 04:36:10 PM
Arnold's encyclopedia is out of date from a nutritional standpoint.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 06, 2009, 04:38:51 PM
Arnold's encyclopedia is out of date from a nutritional standpoint.

I have the original but i thought that there is another one out there. I thought Arnie put one out a few years ago.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: AVBG on January 06, 2009, 04:49:48 PM
I have the original but i thought that there is another one out there. I thought Arnie put one out a few years ago.

If there is a newer/revised edition, I'd doubt he'd have any involvement in it's content.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 06, 2009, 04:55:41 PM
If there is a newer/revised edition, I'd doubt he'd have any involvement in it's content.

Why do you think that? Governor..
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on January 06, 2009, 04:58:26 PM
its written by the owner of MHP supplement company...as far as whats inside it..i have no idea..

Yea, i seen that and i see that he plugs his supplement line but that is towards the end of the book. It seems like a good read but i am hoping that it is just not the same old stuff that i already know.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: bigdarksnake on January 06, 2009, 05:01:29 PM
Candi (tbombz) what student books do you recommend ? Most o them are beyond me.....
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: tbombz on January 06, 2009, 05:16:07 PM
Candi (tbombz) what student books do you recommend ? Most o them are beyond me.....
if you are in  college like i a - then go into the college library and look at your listing and find a section for health or medicine. there should be a ton of good instructional books there.

or try your public library.


Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2009, 06:56:17 AM
Yea, i seen that and i see that he plugs his supplement line but that is towards the end of the book. It seems like a good read but i am hoping that it is just not the same old stuff that i already know.
gerard dente owner...
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on January 07, 2009, 08:31:57 AM
What is the Best book on Nutrution and meals? I have the best book on bodybuilding; Arnolds Encyclopedia of Modern day Bodybuilding but has anyone read any books on nutrution other then in college. I thought about looking at some of Chris Acetos books but would like some input before i start choosing which one would be the "best" one.

Arnold book was never the "best" of anything and various people wrote his chapters for him. As  an Ok addition  to your library, it's fine. It's far from the authority on the topic.

There are far too many good strength coaches out there, such as Poliquin, Simmons, King, Staley, etc, etc. There are far too many real authorities on nutrition out there, Aceto, yours truly, Berardi, Lyle M, etc, etc, and far too many real authorities on supps and drugs, to ever consider Arnolds book the "best" on any of it.

It's not a bad beginners book, but that's about it. As for recipes, here's a list of reports (read free sh%t), one of which is a recipe ebook. Titles are:

Fat Loss Tips Tricks & Techniques

Supplement Company Secrets

The Perfect Rep

Creatine Report

Tasty Healthy Recipes

Some very decent info can be had from them, and they are the right price!

All can be downloaded at:

http://www.brinkzone.com/articledetails.php?acatid=7&aid=132
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: stuntmovie on January 07, 2009, 10:09:16 AM
Well said, Brink. You know this history stuff as well as anyone. Thanks.

What is your opinion on Pearl's book?
 
And how do you feel about the business of Personal Trainers. Back in the day "personal trainers" were anyone in the gym who had actually "gotten it done" and offered their advice for free when asked.

Now-a-days PT's appear to make big bucks teaching nonsense.

Am I wrong in this regards?
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on January 07, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
Well said, Brink. You know this history stuff as well as anyone. Thanks.

What is your opinion on Pearl's book?

Basic old school info and he's a vegetarian now. If training for vegetarians interest you, I guess it's OK.
 
And how do you feel about the business of Personal Trainers. Back in the day "personal trainers" were anyone in the gym who had actually "gotten it done" and offered their advice for free when asked.

Now-a-days PT's appear to make big bucks teaching nonsense.

Am I wrong in this regards?

The golden days of being a PT are long gone. Was a fun job you could make decent $$$ at. Gyms/clubs got greedy, etc, and it's more a grind for some phys Ed major working their way through school or what ever now. I honestly pay no attention to PTs these days, so I don't know what they do. The few we have where I train seem to range from pretty good to generic/lame.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: burn2live on January 07, 2009, 11:14:27 AM
Arnold book was never the "best" of anything and various people wrote his chapters for him. As  an Ok addition  to your library, it's fine. It's far from the authority on the topic.

There are far too many good strength coaches out there, such as Poliquin, Simmons, King, Staley, etc, etc. There are far too many real authorities on nutrition out there, Aceto, yours truly, Berardi, Lyle M, etc, etc, and far too many real authorities on supps and drugs, to ever consider Arnolds book the "best" on any of it.

It's not a bad beginners book, but that's about it. As for recipes, here's a list of reports (read free sh%t), one of which is a recipe ebook. Titles are:

Fat Loss Tips Tricks & Techniques

Supplement Company Secrets

The Perfect Rep

Creatine Report

Tasty Healthy Recipes

Some very decent info can be had from them, and they are the right price!

All can be downloaded at:

http://www.brinkzone.com/articledetails.php?acatid=7&aid=132

Nice! Thanks!
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Fatpanda on January 11, 2009, 07:10:08 AM
www.fatlossbible.net is the best book i've ever read on bbing nutrition.

looks at the studies, gives you the facts, blows away the myths  8)

championship bodybuilding by aceto is a good book too.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: JasonH on January 11, 2009, 01:28:01 PM
The recent Carlton Colker book is very good for nutritional info - "Extreme Muscle Enhancement" it's called.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Fatpanda on January 11, 2009, 01:30:57 PM
The recent Carlton Colker book is very good for nutritional info - "Extreme Muscle Enhancement" it's called.

have to disagree, biggest ever waste of money i've ever spent.

hypocrite slaggs off steroid users while he himself takes them.

there is no facts in it, all anti steroid propaganda.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: JasonH on January 12, 2009, 01:35:06 PM
have to disagree, biggest ever waste of money i've ever spent.

hypocrite slaggs off steroid users while he himself takes them.

there is no facts in it, all anti steroid propaganda.

It's not "anti-steroid" - he does say if you're going to use them then at least know what you're getting into. It's pretty obvious he's used before - doesn't bother me if it comes across hypocritical.

I didn't read it for the gear advice anyway - it was the nutritional stuff that was a good read. It makes up the majority of the book and I wasn't too fussed with the other stuff in it.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: stuntmovie on January 22, 2009, 09:01:01 PM
Don't know if it's been mentioned on GetBig yet, but Venuto's new book "The Body Fat Solution" is definitely worth reading.

Basically it's low calorie diet but he presents it in unique and intelligent manner.

Worth a look-over if you want to head into the ripped-up realm.

But, like all diet books, the same subject matter could be covered in a book 90% smaller.

Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: BatistaSL on January 24, 2009, 07:33:10 PM
Don't know if it's been mentioned on GetBig yet, but Venuto's new book "The Body Fat Solution" is definitely worth reading.

Basically it's low calorie diet but he presents it in unique and intelligent manner.

Worth a look-over if you want to head into the ripped-up realm.

But, like all diet books, the same subject matter could be covered in a book 90% smaller.



Well haven't red it yet but His BFFM was great!!!
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 27, 2009, 11:03:50 PM
Lyle McDonald's shit is overpriced, repackaged, dry garbage for the most part.  As for Brink I've never read of any of his nonsense.  But him quoting some egg study using 5 geriatric colostomy patients and calling it "medical research" is pretty laughable. 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 27, 2009, 11:11:39 PM
But the best book on nutrition right now concerning bodybuilding is Randy Roach's Muscle, Smoke, and Mirrors.  Anyone like Will Brink and Lyle McDonald' who cannot see the difference between the nutritional superiority of say raw milk vs. pasteurized or down plays the importance of enzymes and other aspects of nutrition is a moron or just clueless. 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: barrettaswine on January 28, 2009, 05:09:15 AM
Read Franco Columbu's "the bodybuilders nutrition book". Borders and amazon carries it. really good stuff. and no its not out of touch.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 05, 2009, 08:19:37 PM
But the best book on nutrition right now concerning bodybuilding is Randy Roach's Muscle, Smoke, and Mirrors.  Anyone like Will Brink and Lyle McDonald' who cannot see the difference between the nutritional superiority of say raw milk vs. pasteurized or down plays the importance of enzymes and other aspects of nutrition is a moron or just clueless. 

I am thinking about buying that book but isin't that book based on the history of Bodybuilding?
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 05, 2009, 11:19:43 PM
I am thinking about buying that book but isin't that book based on the history of Bodybuilding?

More the history of nutrition in bodybuilding.  Part II will focus even more on nutrition and
steroids. 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 05, 2009, 11:26:57 PM
I just ordered 4 books off of Amazon and i saw that one but i wanna make sure it is worth the read for $60.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 05, 2009, 11:42:09 PM
I just ordered 4 books off of Amazon and i saw that one but i wanna make sure it is worth the read for $60.

It's well worth the read in my opinion.  Probably the best book on the history of bodybuilding.  Just in terms of sheer scope, especially the nutrition aspect.   
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 06, 2009, 10:26:55 AM
It's well worth the read in my opinion.  Probably the best book on the history of bodybuilding.  Just in terms of sheer scope, especially the nutrition aspect.   

Have you ever read any books by a Dr....ahh i forget his last name but i just ordered two of his books and was is called "what does your body look like naked." Seems like a good read and he also wrote "Better then Steroids." I picked up both of those.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 06, 2009, 06:31:05 PM
Have you ever read any books by a Dr....ahh i forget his last name but i just ordered two of his books and was is called "what does your body look like naked." Seems like a good read and he also wrote "Better then Steroids." I picked up both of those.

I would never buy a book titled "Better than Steroids".  That's just stupid.  You can be the perfect natural bodybuilder in the world.  Eat perfect 100% of the time, train perfectly, have the best genetics, get the perfect amount of sleep.  You'll still never look like a steroid using bodybuilder period.  I've seen that book but never read it.  Maybe the author should have titled it....."You don't need Steroids!" instead.  That would make more sense.  Otherwise there is nothing better than steroids if everything else is spot on.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 06, 2009, 09:48:05 PM
Chris Arceto books:

Understanding Bodybuilding Nutrition and Training..... $19.95 (Amazon.com)
Everything You Need to Know About Fat Loss .............$19.95 (Amazon.com)
Championship Bodybuilding ........................ ............ $24.35 (Amazon.com)

Might even be less expensive if you did a search on eBay.com

Anyone ever get a chance to read "Better Than Steroids" and care to elaborate on what those substances are? Book photo shown below:
I would never buy a book titled "Better than Steroids".  That's just stupid.  You can be the perfect natural bodybuilder in the world.  Eat perfect 100% of the time, train perfectly, have the best genetics, get the perfect amount of sleep.  You'll still never look like a steroid using bodybuilder period.  I've seen that book but never read it.  Maybe the author should have titled it....."You don't need Steroids!" instead.  That would make more sense.  Otherwise there is nothing better than steroids if everything else is spot on.

I just bought the book and to see if it is a decent read in my down time. I expect this book to be like all the others but i picked up a Chris Aceto book and it was the same ole' stuff but i did notice that he had a problem with affect and effect. Nutrution has not changed for Bodybuilders and i expect to see it stay the same. I stick with Protein, Creatine and a Multi vitamin and i may incorporate some Fish oil and some other smaller supps but nothing that big and eat 6 small meals per day along with two shakes.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 07, 2009, 03:36:59 AM
I would never buy a book titled "Better than Steroids".  That's just stupid.  You can be the perfect natural bodybuilder in the world.  Eat perfect 100% of the time, train perfectly, have the best genetics, get the perfect amount of sleep.  You'll still never look like a steroid using bodybuilder period.  I've seen that book but never read it.  Maybe the author should have titled it....."You don't need Steroids!" instead.  That would make more sense.  Otherwise there is nothing better than steroids if everything else is spot on.

I just bought the book and to see if it is a decent read in my down time. I expect this book to be like all the others but i picked up a Chris Aceto book and it was the same ole' stuff but i did notice that he had a problem with affect and effect. Nutrution has not changed for Bodybuilders and i expect to see it stay the same. I stick with Protein, Creatine and a Multi vitamin and i may incorporate some Fish oil and some other smaller supps but nothing that big and eat 6 small meals per day along with two shakes.


I'm telliing you bro Randy's book is fascinating.  There is much more to the history of nutrition in bodybuilding than you think.  I can't explain it.  You just have to read the book.  I wouldn't waste your money on much else these days......most everything is rehashed, regurgitated crap. 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 07, 2009, 10:43:44 PM
I'm telliing you bro Randy's book is fascinating.  There is much more to the history of nutrition in bodybuilding than you think.  I can't explain it.  You just have to read the book.  I wouldn't waste your money on much else these days......most everything is rehashed, regurgitated crap. 

True. I have been looking at Smoke and Mirrors and it seems to be the history of bodybuilding but i am thinking about going ahead and ordering it. The reviews are top notch and it is over 600 pages and it seems like a good read and will problary pick up Volume 2 when it becomes available.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 08, 2009, 08:41:33 PM
I'm telliing you bro Randy's book is fascinating.  There is much more to the history of nutrition in bodybuilding than you think.  I can't explain it.  You just have to read the book.  I wouldn't waste your money on much else these days......most everything is rehashed, regurgitated crap. 

You talked me into buying it....Just ordered it and looking forward to getting it
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Fatpanda on February 09, 2009, 12:20:42 AM
I'm telliing you bro Randy's book is fascinating.  There is much more to the history of nutrition in bodybuilding than you think.  I can't explain it.  You just have to read the book.  I wouldn't waste your money on much else these days......most everything is rehashed, regurgitated crap. 

In all honesty, that sounds like a realy boring book. How much history can there be about nutrition in bodybuilding - low protein/high carbs/high fats to high protein + fats/low carb to high protein high carb/low fat then back again with a section on pre/post workout nutrition  :-\
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 09, 2009, 04:40:03 AM
In all honesty, that sounds like a realy boring book. How much history can there be about nutrition in bodybuilding - low protein/high carbs/high fats to high protein + fats/low carb to high protein high carb/low fat then back again with a section on pre/post workout nutrition  :-\

See that's why the book is so interesting.  There is a ton of information about the history of nutrition in bodybuilding.  A lot more than most people realize or even have a clue about.  There are some boring parts in the book.  I'm in the chapters of the formation of the AAU/IFBB and talks about Weider, Hoffman and Dan Lurie.  It's dry but most would find the material interesting. 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 09, 2009, 08:25:23 AM
See that's why the book is so interesting.  There is a ton of information about the history of nutrition in bodybuilding.  A lot more than most people realize or even have a clue about.  There are some boring parts in the book.  I'm in the chapters of the formation of the AAU/IFBB and talks about Weider, Hoffman and Dan Lurie.  It's dry but most would find the material interesting. 

I should get it by Thursday or Friday and i am really looking forward to it and part 2.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 12, 2009, 09:50:59 PM


Anyone ever get a chance to read "Better Than Steroids" and care to elaborate on what those substances are? Book photo shown below:
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I just read this book and it is not bad but i would reccomend this book beginners. "Better than Steroids" is a good book and Dr. Willey does a great job making things as simple as can be but as i figured this book is all about food and the best time to train, eat and getting the right types of food. This book is a great read for beginners but the funny thing about this book as he implies that Jay Cutler is natural and even Jay endorses Dr. Willey on the back and swears that he uses the same principles in this book and that it helped make him Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 12, 2009, 10:40:00 PM

Anyone ever get a chance to read "Better Than Steroids" and care to elaborate on what those substances are? Book photo shown below:


I just read this book and it is not bad but i would reccomend this book beginners. "Better than Steroids" is a good book and Dr. Willey does a great job making things as simple as can be but as i figured this book is all about food and the best time to train, eat and getting the right types of food. This book is a great read for beginners but the funny thing about this book as he implies that Jay Cutler is natural and even Jay endorses Dr. Willey on the back and swears that he uses the same principles in this book and that it helped make him Mr. Olympia.

Funny?  That downright destroys any credibility that author could ever have regarding training, nutrition and steroids.  LOL.  Part II of Muscle, Smoke and Mirrors, is going to be really interesting.  Randy's said he's focuses on some sport specific training arguments, more on steroids etc. 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 13, 2009, 09:48:26 AM
Funny?  That downright destroys any credibility that author could ever have regarding training, nutrition and steroids.  LOL.  Part II of Muscle, Smoke and Mirrors, is going to be really interesting.  Randy's said he's focuses on some sport specific training arguments, more on steroids etc. 

Yea, it was pretty funny seeing Jay on the back and saying that he was a natural and their is only "one" Jay Cuter. Good book for beginners because i am just getting into Muscle, Smoke & Mirrors and it is a thick book and it should only take a few days to read but when is volume Two coming out?
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: flexingtonsteele on February 13, 2009, 10:45:39 AM
Protein Power by Michael Eades, M.D. & Mary Dan Eades, M.D

great great book! anyone who reads it will learn!
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Fatpanda on February 13, 2009, 10:49:11 AM
Protein Power by Michael Eades, M.D. & Mary Dan Eades, M.D

great great book! anyone who reads it will learn!
nonsense - he believes calories don't matter - i.e a clown.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: flexingtonsteele on February 13, 2009, 10:56:36 AM
nonsense - he believes calories don't matter - i.e a clown.

the macronutirents that you eat are FAR more important than the calories.



Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Fatpanda on February 13, 2009, 11:40:37 AM
the macronutirents that you eat are FAR more important than the calories.





nonsense - calories are king. it has been proven time and time again in controlled settings.

eades and his fantastic magical unsubstantiated claims have been destroyed in every single way by anthony colpo.

if you want to educate yourself, read the free ( and very very good book) that details exactly how eades has embarrassed himself, why he is wrong and what the real truth is at:

http://www.thefatlossbible.net/They_Are_All_Mad.pdf
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: flexingtonsteele on February 13, 2009, 01:07:59 PM
nonsense - calories are king. it has been proven time and time again in controlled settings.

eades and his fantastic magical unsubstantiated claims have been destroyed in every single way by anthony colpo.

if you want to educate yourself, read the free ( and very very good book) that details exactly how eades has embarrassed himself, why he is wrong and what the real truth is at:

http://www.thefatlossbible.net/They_Are_All_Mad.pdf

so your telling me 1,000 grams of carbs are the same thing as a 1,000 grams of protein?

there both 4,000 calories, so ur body should respond the same to both, and there should be no difference.

WRONG!! a calorie is not a calorie and its the MACROS that you take in, not the calories that really matter in the end.

And I spent four years in college getting double majoring in kinesiology and health educating myself, no need to read that article you posted  ;)
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Fatpanda on February 13, 2009, 02:57:22 PM
so your telling me 1,000 grams of carbs are the same thing as a 1,000 grams of protein?

there both 4,000 calories, so ur body should respond the same to both, and there should be no difference.

WRONG!! a calorie is not a calorie and its the MACROS that you take in, not the calories that really matter in the end.

And I spent four years in college getting double majoring in kinesiology and health educating myself, no need to read that article you posted  ;)

you need to go back and spend another 4 years then because calories count in terms of weight loss or gain.

you metabolic advantage crowd are all the same - i used to be too, untill i read the science.

you are clutching at straws, with your 1000g of carbs vs 1000g of protein comment - always the last hope of a dying argument.

on maintenence if you add 1000g of carbs or protein the result will be the same - weight gain.

on maintenence if you remove 1000g of carbs or protein the result will be the same - weight loss.

this is fact.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: flexingtonsteele on February 13, 2009, 05:12:09 PM
you need to go back and spend another 4 years then because calories count in terms of weight loss or gain.

you metabolic advantage crowd are all the same - i used to be too, untill i read the science.

you are clutching at straws, with your 1000g of carbs vs 1000g of protein comment - always the last hope of a dying argument.

on maintenence if you add 1000g of carbs or protein the result will be the same - weight gain.

on maintenence if you remove 1000g of carbs or protein the result will be the same - weight loss.

this is fact.

ill just agree to disagree with you! dont feel like putting the energy in arguing something like this.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 17, 2009, 09:22:37 PM
See that's why the book is so interesting.  There is a ton of information about the history of nutrition in bodybuilding.  A lot more than most people realize or even have a clue about.  There are some boring parts in the book.  I'm in the chapters of the formation of the AAU/IFBB and talks about Weider, Hoffman and Dan Lurie.  It's dry but most would find the material interesting. 

I just got the chance to read the first 75 pages and i am so bored but i am hoping that this book takes a big turn.

Do you know when Volume 2 is coming out?
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 17, 2009, 10:02:39 PM
I just got the chance to read the first 75 pages and i am so bored but i am hoping that this book takes a big turn.

Do you know when Volume 2 is coming out?

I don't remember the first 75 pages but it ebbs and flows.  Has it talked about Price/Pottenger?  The Hunza?  The Eskimos?  I found that part pretty interesting.  The last half of the book is the best part I think.  I don't know what you expect.  I mean afterall it is nutrition and history. 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 17, 2009, 10:07:30 PM
I don't remember the first 75 pages but it ebbs and flows.  Has it talked about Price/Pottenger?  The Hunza?  The Eskimos?  I found that part pretty interesting.  The last half of the book is the best part I think.  I don't know what you expect.  I mean afterall it is nutrition and history. 

The Hunza and the Eskimos. I am hoping that it is just the beginning but i am about to enter "The Iron Game" and that sounds much better

Do you know when Volume Two is coming out?
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 18, 2009, 03:23:28 AM
The Hunza and the Eskimos. I am hoping that it is just the beginning but i am about to enter "The Iron Game" and that sounds much better

Do you know when Volume Two is coming out?

I found the Hunza, Eskimo, Price/Pottenger parts very interesting.  The Iron Game I feel is kind of boring but you might like it.  Part II should be out next fall. 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 18, 2009, 09:34:33 AM
I found the Hunza, Eskimo, Price/Pottenger parts very interesting.  The Iron Game I feel is kind of boring but you might like it.  Part II should be out next fall. 

I hope so because i almost fell asleep reading about Eskimos
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Fatpanda on February 18, 2009, 11:36:37 AM
I don't remember the first 75 pages but it ebbs and flows.  Has it talked about Price/Pottenger?  The Hunza?  The Eskimos?  I found that part pretty interesting.  The last half of the book is the best part I think.  I don't know what you expect.  I mean afterall it is nutrition and history. 

surprisingly that actually does sound quite interesting  :D
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Option D on February 18, 2009, 11:38:47 AM
NUTRIENT TIMING

http://books.google.com/books?id=04GJNEwE6zMC&dq=NUTRIENT+TIMING&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=cWOcSaGOIIKOsQPXosyfAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 18, 2009, 12:56:45 PM
surprisingly that actually does sound quite interesting  :D

It better be for a $65 Book
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Fatpanda on February 18, 2009, 02:22:18 PM
It better be for a $65 Book

 :o holy @@@@

never mind then.

i can get a hooker to suck me off 3 times for that  ;D
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on February 18, 2009, 03:48:39 PM
:o holy @@@@

never mind then.

i can get a hooker to suck me off 3 times for that  ;D

Reading=Power. I was always taught to think that way. 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Fatpanda on February 18, 2009, 03:56:53 PM
Reading=Power. I was always taught to think that way. 

hahaha well read about bit torrents and save yourself some money  ;D
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2009, 09:31:56 PM
I don't remember the first 75 pages but it ebbs and flows.  Has it talked about Price/Pottenger?  The Hunza?  The Eskimos?  I found that part pretty interesting.  The last half of the book is the best part I think.  I don't know what you expect.  I mean afterall it is nutrition and history. 

This has to be the best book out of all time and Randy deserves all the credit in the world for Volume one and i am "Pumped" for Volume Two. Thanks MuscleMcMannus for the Recommendation!! I would go ahead and pre order Volume Two but i will have to wait. Tell Randy that is the best book on the History of Bodybuilding/Nutrution and the many philosophies of many different Bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 13, 2009, 09:38:13 PM
The chapter on Vince Gironda was absolutely "Phenomenal." I would loved to train at his studio
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on April 13, 2009, 10:20:11 PM
This has to be the best book out of all time and Randy deserves all the credit in the world for Volume one and i am "Pumped" for Volume Two. Thanks MuscleMcMannus for the Recommendation!! I would go ahead and pre order Volume Two but i will have to wait. Tell Randy that is the best book on the History of Bodybuilding/Nutrution and the many philosophies of many different Bodybuilders.

Thanks bro glad you liked it.  I can't wait for Volume II as well! 
Title: Re: Best book on Nutrution and meals
Post by: loco on April 14, 2009, 10:42:35 AM
What is the Best book on Nutrution and meals? I have the best book on bodybuilding; Arnolds Encyclopedia of Modern day Bodybuilding but has anyone read any books on nutrution other then in college. I thought about looking at some of Chris Acetos books but would like some input before i start choosing which one would be the "best" one.

Nutrition:

Championship Bodybuilding: Chris Aceto's Instruction Book For Bodybuilding
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51NVSQMDVWL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Championship-Bodybuilding-Chris-Acetos-Instruction/dp/0966916808/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239730511&sr=8-2

Meals:

Eating For Life by Bill Phillips
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GWSDP8Q2L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Eating-Life-Bill-Phillips/dp/0972018417/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239730598&sr=8-1#