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From Blackfive.net........... .....
I will continue to attempt to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, but picking Leon Panetta to run the CIA is absolutely ludicrous. Since his left wing vetoed John Brennan for the crime of having served while W was President, even though he opposed most of the programs they hate, Obama has now picked someone they can't object to because he doesn't know a damn thing about intelligence. Panetta has no ties to any intel related activities beyond doing some accounting work on their budgets. He is absolutely unqualified to serve, but since he served as Clinton's Chief of Staff I guess Barry figures he will be able to sweep any unhelpful intel under the carpet.
The article has folks lauding his managerial skills. Well hey that's nice but this isn't an episode of "The Office" this is our national security. Panetta is a dependable Democrat hack and Obama has just showed he values that over our ability to know what is going on around the world. I would continue, but this is so fundamentally lame and sorry that it would be redundant. Leon Panetta? How long do you think Gates will last before he goes thump, thump, thump under the bus. This pick rates an F.
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He's not only a hack, but a hack with a history of disliking the CIA (dating back at least to his days with Clinton). A lot of the budget cuts he pushed for back then were what led to the horrible intel situation of the late 1990s to September 2001.....
Sorry I really can't understand this pick other then to marginalize the big bad CIA. Last time somebody did this they didn't enjoy Dallas all that much.
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Taken by surprise was Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., incoming chairwoman of the Select Senate Intelligence Committee.
"I was not informed about the selection of Leon Panetta to be the CIA director. I know nothing about this, other than what I've read. My position has consistently been that I believe the agency is best-served by having an intelligence professional in charge at this time," Feinstein said in a written statement.
Senior Democratic sources told FOX News Feinstein had put forward the name of Steven Kappes, a career officer at the CIA.
FOX News has learned that outgoing Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., does not approve of the Panetta pick either. Rockefeller, according to one official, also put forward Kappes for CIA chief.
Sen. Kit Bond, the top Republican on the Intelligence Committee, released a statement saying he would "be looking hard at Panetta's intelligence expertise and qualifications."
Based on a handful of conversations among those linked to the intelligence community, Panetta's name was not on any of the watch lists circulating in Washington. Some of those who spoke with FOX News noted that if confirmed, Panetta, 70, will become the oldest person to become CIA director, a position considered to be extremely rigorous.
They also noted that since Panetta served as chief of staff for Clinton, he will surely face questions about the Clinton administration terror policy and what critics saw as "dropping the ball" in the 1990s.
If confirmed, the move will be another sign that the Obama administration is trying to make a "clean break" from what they have described as the Bush administration's heavy counter-terror policies over intelligence-gathering.
A senior U.S. intelligence official noted that Hayden has increased morale at the CIA to its highest in years, the mission has a clear focus and successes notable.
Playing offense against terrorists and countering weapons proliferation are among those successes. Those efforts have saved lives and helped keep the country safe, the official said. Hayden has done a lot of good over there at the CIA. If in fact that is the decision that has been made, he will have left the place in far better shape than he found it, the official added.
The search for Obama's new CIA chief had been stalled since November, when John Brennan, Obama's transition intelligence adviser, abruptly withdrew his name from consideration. Brennan said his potential nomination had sparked outrage among civil rights and human rights groups, who argued that he had not been outspoken enough in his condemnation of President Bush's policies.
Since when do leftwing douchebags have a say in our Intel community. If thats not troubling to everybody, I don't know what is. These people don't understand the threat nor the world we live in.
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Does Barry have a bag full of Clinton flunkie names and he just pulls a name out of it and they get the next position he needs to fill.
Seriously this is getting ridiculous. Where's all the change he ran on, hell where's any change.
Panetta is nothing but another Democratic Clinton hack. Can't we at least get someone actually qualified for such an important position.
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Does Barry have a bag full of Clinton flunkie names and he just pulls a name out of it and they get the next position he needs to fill.
Seriously this is getting ridiculous. Where's all the change he ran on, hell where's any change.
Panetta is nothing but another Democratic Clinton hack. Can't we at least get someone actually qualified for such an important position.
The fools who voted for this clown are already trying their hardest to explain away this mess.
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That's because the fools who supported Bush are already giving themselves heart palpitations trying to predict the future.
The guy is hardly an abysmall pick. He's a surprising choice in some ways, but his history suggests he would do well in the job. Obama's not even in office yet and the right is already creaming themselves that Obama is going to destroy the country. One day it's "he's not going to change anything." The next day it's "this change is too drastic and I don't understand it." Good Grief.
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This is neither about change or hope or anything political. Its about experience in intell matters. This guy has none. He was on the Iraq study commity and voted to surrender....good call. There are plenty of dems who think this is an odd choice, most who come to mind actually serve on the SSCI and would know. Do u guys plan to defend everthing that the messiah does? Panetta was chosen to show everyone he's (Obama) the boss...and to impress upon the NCS, analysts, and DA/UW paramilitary-types that Democrats are running the show now, and there will be none of this silly "offensive counter-terrorism stuff" on Obama's watch. This is a bad pick.
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Meanwhile...the Dems are still winning and in power an the GOP is NOT!
hahahahaha
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Meanwhile...the Dems are still winning and in power an the GOP is NOT!
hahahahaha
That is the problem in a nutshell.
You care more about someone winning an office than whether or not they even have a clue about what they are doing or what their plans are.
Pleasse tell me - why Panetta?
Is there no one else????
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Why? Because he can. It is his pick. Last time I checked, you don't have a say so in it.
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Nor do u and when u douchebags get voted out in 2 years...don't whine to me. What happens if we get attacked on his watch. Good job Barry.....
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Nor do u and when u douchebags get voted out in 2 years...don't whine to me. What happens if we get attacked on his watch. Good job Barry.....
Bush will be blamed for everything for thousands if years.
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The CIA hated the Clinton regime and this will likely cause a lot of dissent for Obama. Look for them to lose funding, good people and operation control. Something big will happen and then they will have little funding, personnel and be asked to do a lot in a short time.
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He was chosen because it was a safe pick.
So long as the DNI knows what the hell he's doing I wouldn't get too worried. He's just another political hack and the employees of the CIA can weather this storm like they would any other political hack.
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He was chosen because it was a safe pick.
So long as the DNI knows what the hell he's doing I wouldn't get too worried. He's just another political hack and the employees of the CIA can weather this storm like they would any other political hack.
Last time they had to "weather" a storm there were multiple bombings of US embassies and property and then they had to gear up to take Bin Laden after funding and personnel were cut down. Barry wants to spend tons on State Dept employees and less in military and clandestine operations. The problem is that non-state actors and sympathetic governments don't give a crap about Foreign Service Specialists from the State Dept, but they do worry about being "renditioned".
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Last time they had to "weather" a storm there were multiple bombings of US embassies and property and then they had to gear up to take Bin Laden after funding and personnel were cut down. Barry wants to spend tons on State Dept employees and less in military and clandestine operations. The problem is that non-state actors and sympathetic governments don't give a crap about Foreign Service Specialists from the State Dept, but they do worry about being "renditioned".
There also wasn't a DNI running the show back then either.
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There also wasn't a DNI running the show back then either.
We need Jack Bauer att he CIA, not a Jack in the Box like Pannetta.
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Nor do u and when u douchebags get voted out in 2 years...don't whine to me. What happens if we get attacked on his watch. Good job Barry.....
hahahahaaa... and what happens if we get attacked no matter who is picked? Oh let me see... "good job Barry?"
LOL @ you thinking you can judge another man's choice. After all, you chose Palin. Shows how much you know.
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hahahahaaa... and what happens if we get attacked no matter who is picked? Oh let me see... "good job Barry?"
LOL @ you thinking you can judge another man's choice. After all, you chose Palin. Shows how much you know.
Palin:
Mayor
Governor
President of Energy Commission - just finalized 40 billion dollar pipeline
Business Owner
HHHMMMMM?????????? She has far more relevant experience than these liberal clinton retreads.
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hahahahaaa... and what happens if we get attacked no matter who is picked? Oh let me see... "good job Barry?"
LOL @ you thinking you can judge another man's choice. After all, you chose Palin. Shows how much you know.
I must have missed where I picked Palin. First off smart guy I didn't pick McCain. I would have voted Romney in the general election and would also picked him for VP...so u lost that ridiculous argument.
Sorry but everything in the last 8 years has been Bush's fault...911 was planned well in advance of Bush and OBL could have been killed by Clinton...still GWB's fault. Housing crash.....started by ridiculous 1977 Carter law, enforced by Clinton and rammed down the throats of lenders in the late 90's...still GWB's fault. Katrina...act of God compounded by inept New Orleans major...still Bush's fault. So guess what...we get attacked because Barry took his foot off the gas....ITS BARRY's fault.
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Palin:
Mayor
Governor
President of Energy Commission - just finalized 40 billion dollar pipeline
Business Owner
HHHMMMMM?????????? She has far more relevant experience than these liberal clinton retreads.
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She does...to be an executive. She's led. She has experience leading while this guy has done nothing Intel related. I'm sure he's a good manager and that would be great if CIA was Home Depot, but we're at war and need an experienced Intel guy. There are plenty of Dems, though not liberal douchebags, that could fill that job.
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I must have missed where I picked Palin. First off smart guy I didn't pick McCain. I would have voted Romney in the general election and would also picked him for VP...so u lost that ridiculous argument.
Sorry but everything in the last 8 years has been Bush's fault...911 was planned well in advance of Bush and OBL could have been killed by Clinton...still GWB's fault. Housing crash.....started by ridiculous 1977 Carter law, enforced by Clinton and rammed down the throats of lenders in the late 90's...still GWB's fault. Katrina...act of God compounded by inept New Orleans major...still Bush's fault. So guess what...we get attacked because Barry took his foot off the gas....ITS BARRY's fault.
Did you vote last Nov? Who did you vote for? Case closed. You = FAIL.
But don't worry. I am changing from an independent to a Repub so I can vote for Palin in the 2012 primaries. Get that dingbat on the ticket and Barry is guranteed a landslide victory.
Meanwhile, Barry is still YOUR BOSS.
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I am changing from an independent to a Repub so I can vote for Palin in the 2012 primaries.
LOL... what if Rush's little plan backfired, and dems did this in a big way?
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Did you vote last Nov? Who did you vote for? Case closed. You = FAIL.
But don't worry. I am changing from an independent to a Repub so I can vote for Palin in the 2012 primaries. Get that dingbat on the ticket and Barry is guranteed a landslide victory.
Meanwhile, Barry is still YOUR BOSS.
I voted for McCain....
Barry isn't my boss yest...there could always be a freak meteor storm.
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I voted for McCain....
Barry isn't my boss yest...there could always be a freak meteor storm.
So there you have it. You voted and lost. So now you whine up and down about it.
Get used to Bossman Barry calling the shots the way HE sees fit.
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So there you have it. You voted and lost. So now you whine up and down about it.
Get used to Bossman Barry calling the shots the way HE sees fit.
Dont worry, Barry will have his own 9/11 to deal with after de-balling the CIA and FBI like Clinton did.
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Dont worry, Barry will have his own 9/11 to deal with after de-balling the CIA and FBI like Clinton did.
Guessing or plotting on your end?
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Guessing or plotting on your end?
maybe 333386 and HH6 are in cahoots. Headhunter was promising something about a meteor shower. not cool.
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I voted for McCain....
Barry isn't my boss yest...there could always be a freak meteor storm.
WTF? ????
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maybe 333386 and HH6 are in cahoots. Headhunter was promising something about a meteor shower. not cool.
Im not in cahotts with anyone.
I live in the shadow of the previous twin towers and want terrorists who want to do us harm dead.
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I live in the shadow of the previous twin towers and want terrorists who want to do us harm dead.
I bet your were surprised when WTC 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 were all completely destroyed that day while buildings that were closer (sustaining much greater damage) stand to this day.
But with your emotional atachement to the events, you couldn't possibly look at things like that with a clear mind.
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I bet your were surprised when WTC 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 were all completely destroyed that day while buildings that were closer (sustaining much greater damage) stand to this day.
But with your emotional atachement to the events, you couldn't possibly look at things like that with a clear mind.
Ok . . . again . . . . where is Barbara Olsen????????????
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Ok . . . again . . . . where is Barbara Olsen????????????
ignorance is probably better for you, then.
I like you on some topics, but you're fvckin scared shitless about 911.
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ignorance is probably better for you, then.
I like you on some topics, but you're fvckin scared shitless about 911.
Where is she????????????
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Im not in cahotts with anyone.
I live in the shadow of the previous twin towers and want terrorists who want to do us harm dead.
In that case, why are we in Iraq and not Saudi Arabia? Oh that's right.... Bush.
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In that case, why are we in Iraq and not Saudi Arabia? Oh that's right.... Bush.
it's not like 3/4 of the hijackers were saudis or anything.
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In that case, why are we in Iraq and not Saudi Arabia? Oh that's right.... Bush.
I dont fault Bush for going into Iraq. the occpuation has been a boon to the contractors I agree,
However, we have had ZERO terrorists attacks in 7 years.
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Its hard to argue that invading Iraq was not a mistake. We could have sent a message with targeted airstrikes.
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I dont fault Bush for going into Iraq. the occpuation has been a boon to the contractors I agree,
However, we have had ZERO terrorists attacks in 7 years.
and before 9/11 we weren't hit in 9 years, whats your point?
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Its hard to argue that invading Iraq was not a mistake. We could have sent a message with targeted airstrikes.
In retrospect, of course!
However, we have not had anothr 9./11 since . . . . 9/11 itself.