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Hey Bob, is this what your cycle looked like before a show? This was Tom Prince's cycle for 2001 night of champions.
Posted by Tom Price at bodybuilding.com
It's been over 6 years since I last stepped on stage. I remember promising a ton of peeps that one day I would post this. So, here it is, folks. My 2001 Night of Champions Cycle. Just for fun.. Tom
Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; 4 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day
Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day
Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab
Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab
Week #5: 6iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab
Week #6: 6 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab
Week #7: off; 5000 iu HCG/day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)
Week #8: off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)
Week #9: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #10: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #11: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #12: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #13: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #14: 6 iu's GH/day; 1500 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #15: off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
**Week #16: off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x Clenbuterol tab (Sun, Mon, Tue only), 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
**Day of contest was at the end of 16th Week.
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is the Sustenon listed a daily dose or weekly dose? it doesn't specify.
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is the Sustenon listed a daily dose or weekly dose? it doesn't specify.
I don't know.
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I don't know.
it can't possibly be daily especially that close to a show, honestly that isn't a huge amount of gear considering how big Tom was, it's still A LOT, but not what i thought he took.
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no mention of the rice and beans ;D
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is the Sustenon listed a daily dose or weekly dose? it doesn't specify.
weekly dose. and if you read it, wk 16 is contest week, not wk 1. hth
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weekly dose. and if you read it, wk 16 is contest week, not wk 1. hth
sounds pretty realistic to me, like i said it's a pretty good amount but Tom was a HUGE THICK dude at his biggest.
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sounds pretty realistic to me, like i said it's a pretty good amount but Tom was a HUGE THICK dude at his biggest.
personally i think its more bullshit from the prince of darkness. notice that there's no insulin in that stack.
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Hey Bob, is this what your cycle looked like before a show? This was Tom Prince's cycle for 2001 night of champions.
Posted by Tom Price at bodybuilding.com
It's been over 6 years since I last stepped on stage. I remember promising a ton of peeps that one day I would post this. So, here it is, folks. My 2001 Night of Champions Cycle. Just for fun.. Tom
Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; 4 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day
Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day
Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab
Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab
Week #5: 6iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab
Week #6: 6 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab
Week #7: off; 5000 iu HCG/day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)
Week #8: off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)
Week #9: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #10: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #11: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #12: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #13: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #14: 6 iu's GH/day; 1500 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
Week #15: off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
**Week #16: off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x Clenbuterol tab (Sun, Mon, Tue only), 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)
**Day of contest was at the end of 16th Week.
Well...lets see...it was TOM'S cycle.
My cycle looked like MY cycle....
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personally i think its more bullshit from the prince of darkness. notice that there's no insulin in that stack.
You can think what you want....I can guarantee that is EXACTLY what Tom did....
There is no mention of insulin, because TP didnt use it....
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You can think what you want....I can guarantee that is EXACTLY what Tom did....
There is no mention of insulin, because TP didnt use it....
maybe "emn's" genetics are shit and he thinks everyone needs boatloads of juice, Bob.
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You can think what you want....I can guarantee that is EXACTLY what Tom did....
There is no mention of insulin, because TP didnt use it....
HEY BOB IN AN OPINION IF THE ATHLETE'S STOP USING INSULIN WOULD THE BODIES LOOK MORE DYNAMIC WITH NATURALS LINES?
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maybe "emn's" genetics are shit and he thinks everyone needs boatloads of juice, Bob.
all these guys want you to foster the myth that they are something special. so, they come up with these unrealistically low dose cycles to make you think that they aren't "all drugs". fact is they are all drugs. more bullshit from the degnerate drug addict Tom Prince.
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Well...lets see...it was TOM'S cycle.
My cycle looked like MY cycle....
Please enlighten us?
What does your contest cycle look like?
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all these guys want you to foster the myth that they are something special. so, they come up with these unrealistically low dose cycles to make you think that they aren't "all drugs". fact is they are all drugs. more bullshit from the degnerate drug addict Tom Prince.
1,000-1,500mg. of test and 600mg. of Deca/week is "unrealistically low"? i'd hate to see what you think is high, they'd have to rob banks to support their roid habits. ::)
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Please enlighten us?
What does your contest cycle look like?
why do you care? what difference does it make to your life, will you suddenly be happier, wealthier, better looking, more muscular, etc. when you find out what he's taking? ::)
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absolute bullshit on week 15 and 16
the rest..eh..whatever..he can claim what he likes to... but no gear last two weeks before a show? hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha
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1,000-1,500mg. of test and 600mg. of Deca/week is "unrealistically low"? i'd hate to see what you think is high, they'd have to rob banks to support their roid habits. ::)
lmao...just goes to show how little you know about aas and their cost. go back to posting about what you know...like, ummmmmm...hmmmmm...askin g Donkey for his picture.
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lmao...just goes to show how little you know about aas and their cost. go back to posting about what you know...like, ummmmmm...hmmmmm...askin g Donkey for his picture.
hahahahahha, another skinny/fat loser who thinks that every pro is taking 50,000mg. of test a week and a bottle of Anadrol a day because his cycle of 1000mg. of shitty UG test/olive oil didn't work. :D
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hahahahahha, another skinny/fat loser who thinks that every pro is taking 50,000mg. of test a week and a bottle of Anadrol a day because his cycle of 1000mg. of shitty UG test/olive oil didn't work. :D
wow, you really are a nit wit aren't you. aren't you going to ask me for my picture queenie?
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wow, you really are a nit wit aren't you. aren't you going to ask me for my picture queenie?
no, it's safe to assume from your jealousy and hate for the pros that you look like shit. :D
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why do you care? what difference does it make to your life, will you suddenly be happier, wealthier, better looking, more muscular, etc. when you find out what he's taking? ::)
Bob looks good.
So yes, I would look better, Dave.
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no, it's safe to assume from your jealousy and hate for the pros that you look like shit. :D
so pointing out an obvious bullshit claim from the drug addict Tom Prince is jealousy and hate?
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Bob looks good.
So yes, I would look better, Dave.
Bob is Bob and you are you, taking drugs will only make you a bigger version of YOU not anyone else.
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a guy once posted the tom prince cycle that prince gave the guy for contest prep. he hired price for prep. it was a pretty killer stack of stimulants that he posted. ill try to dig it up. ... prince liked bodybuilding drugs. he used to do a little "who knows the answer to this bodybuilding drug question" thing on a different forum.
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absolute bullshit on week 15 and 16
the rest..eh..whatever..he can claim what he likes to... but no gear last two weeks before a show? hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha
This post shows you have no idea what youre talking about....only fools take any gear in the last 2 weeks....no benefit whatsoever.
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Bob ,what is this for ???
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Bob ,what is this for ???
Bob! The IFBB is an organization of hypocrisy, huh? ;D
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Bob ,what is this for ???
Its for people with too much time on their hands to make up and post....nothing original there.
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Its for people with too much time on their hands to make up and post....nothing original there.
I don't get it ???
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I don't get it ???
OK ,whatever
Another question ,who is this guy and what is he talking about?
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So TP is claiming he got into 300 pds ripped on 1500 mg test and 600mg of deca a week? ::)
jt
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So TP is claiming he got into 300 pds ripped on 1500 mg test and 600mg of deca a week? ::)
jt
No...he's saying that was his schedule for getting to 240 lbs of contest condition.
Comprehension......get some
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No...he's saying that was his schedule for getting to 240 lbs of contest condition.
Comprehension......get some
hey don't talk to me that way >:(
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hey don't talk to me that way >:(
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bob u need to start showing respect to the fans and the fellow athletes
u are also a mod on the positive board and u should be settings a better examples
lead by example not by exception
remember bob...u may be feeling like a million bucks right now and have all kinds of sponsors and crappy movie parts...but that can all change overnight...we have no control over the future...floods diseases accidents..anything can happen...be thankful for what u have and treat others the way u want to be treated
u owe jt an apology bob o rino
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Chick Big Mistake claiming to know Tommies Drug regime So when the Hard questions get asked from the DEA you will have already typed here you knew EVERYTHING not real SMART Mr Chick.Hmmmmmmmmmm :-\
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Chick Big Mistake claiming to know Tommies Drug regime So when the Hard questions get asked from the DEA you will have already typed here you knew EVERYTHING not real SMART Mr Chick.Hmmmmmmmmmm :-\
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Chick Big Mistake claiming to know Tommies Drug regime So when the Hard questions get asked from the DEA you will have already typed here you knew EVERYTHING not real SMART Mr Chick.Hmmmmmmmmmm :-\
by your reasoning, if i know someone who killed someone, i'm automatically an accomplice?
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No but if you type some place that you know about it and don't tell the Cops ya Fuked.Oh and quaker roll ya eyes but if Don't think the DEA READ this Fukin Drug hole board you must be crazy. :-\
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No but if you type some place that you know about it and don't tell the Cops ya Fuked.Oh and quaker roll ya eyes but if Don't think the DEA READ this Fukin Drug hole board you must be crazy. :-\
you're not fucked, get that through your head. if you know someone's done something illegal and don't report it to the cops, you don't go to jail or get "questioned". did bob sell him the drugs? did bob inject it into him? i don't see any reasoning in you saying bob should be "questioned" cuz he knows of someone's drug use.
we can all make a list of at least a dozen people who use "drugs" on here. should all 5,000 of us be questioned then?
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ASK THE FUKIN DEA that question Not me.I know that the competitors Rep should not be typing on a public site that he knew of Drug use by IFBB Pros when THEY ARE FUKING BANNED BY THE IFBB.READ THE FUKIN IFBB RULE BOOK.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :'(
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Chick Big Mistake claiming to know Tommies Drug regime So when the Hard questions get asked from the DEA you will have already typed here you knew EVERYTHING not real SMART Mr Chick.Hmmmmmmmmmm :-\
GOD...the ignorance is overwhelming.
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ASK THE FUKIN DEA that question Not me.I know that the competitors Rep should not be typing on a public site that he knew of Drug use by IFBB Pros when THEY ARE FUKING BANNED BY THE IFBB.READ THE FUKIN IFBB RULE BOOK.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :'(
you seriously need a girfriend or a hobby dude.
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you seriously need a girfriend or a hobby dude.
Thanks have Both.Can you tell me the DEA DOES NOT READ THIS BOARD???
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I want to meet the DEA agent who's job it is to read this board lol....what does he talk about to his wife when he gets home from work "so honey how was your day? Was there alot of ownings/meltdown on GetBig? Did GH15 post any new commandments?
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When the Penny falls. :'(
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bob u need to start showing respect to the fans and the fellow athletes
u are also a mod on the positive board and u should be settings a better examples
lead by example not by exception
remember bob...u may be feeling like a million bucks right now and have all kinds of sponsors and crappy movie parts...but that can all change overnight...we have no control over the future...floods diseases accidents..anything can happen...be thankful for what u have and treat others the way u want to be treated
u owe jt an apology bob o rino
thx NW for the backup, bimbo Bob really doesn't know where to draw the line.
jt
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you seriously need a girfriend or a hobby dude.
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interesting thread :)
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THIS THREADS SUCKS
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Bob, is this guy lying?
There is no middle ground with Tom, you either love him or hate him. I came on this board when it first started and loved it. Tom definatley had his opinions but guess what he stuck with them and i have to respect that.
After about a year on the board I hired him to help me with a show. Tom was awesome when we first started working together. I learned a lot about simplicity of training and dieting. As he would say KISS. The cycles he set me on was not very complicated and to most internet drug gurus would fly in the face of reason. However I felt great on them. As far as our talks about drugs tom was very honest and upfront. Were they 5 grams / week....No he said the most he used was 1500 mg of Test + 800 mg of Deca and sometimes another drug in addition. The only thing that scared the living shit out of me was the use of CLen and Ephedrine. 500 mcg of CLenbuterol was typical while dieting. 250 mg of Ephedrine.
When I started my diet for that show he initially wanted me to use 100 mg of Ephedrine to start off at. Knowing I had not used any stims in a long time and that 25 mg of ephedrine got me going I protested. So we started at 25 and by week 4 were up to 100 mg / day. Not long after that I tore my knee up pretty bad in an accident and had to stop all training. Needless to say he was pissed and his "good nature" went to that of being an asshole. We ended on a sour note.
He is a nice guy but definatley has trouble with anger managment i'm guessing. Was it the drugs that ended his career. Sure absolutely but It probably wasn't the AAS. It was the Stimulates and Advil that caused his demise.
http://www.chadnicholls.net/forums/showpost.php?p=925551&postcount=38
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BOBS THE LIAR :-\
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RENAL FAILURE - LOOK IT UP IF U DON'T KNOW DIP SHITS
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absolute bullshit on week 15 and 16
the rest..eh..whatever..he can claim what he likes to... but no gear last two weeks before a show? hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha
I don't think it's necessarily BS. But Bob is also wrong that only a fool would take steroids the last couple of weeks. Depends on what you've been running.
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Have you seen a recent Pic of Tommie Boy Prince Fukka is HUGE.Just goes to show Drugs do work once you have good gains those gains are there for life baby.BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOM.
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Have you seen a recent Pic of Tommie Boy Prince Fukka is HUGE.Just goes to show Drugs do work once you have good gains those gains are there for life baby.BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOM.
When you come off the drugs, the gains go away.
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I would seriously hate to see the physiques on all the retards here who call bullshit on cycles like that, all you experts who weigh 190 on 10 grams of test a week, who all know this guy who trained with this other guy and this is what they do, Keep calling bullshit on every reasonable dosage claim, its will be easier to call bullshit on the truth than accept your a genetic failure. That cycle is closer to 90% of what pros take than what GH15 would say, GH 15 opinions represnt a small lunatic fringe of bodybuilders, who like him never got anywhere, by trying to overcome average non pro genetics with mgs, just doesnt happen.
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I would seriously hate to see the physiques on all the retards here who call bullshit on cycles like that, all you experts who weigh 190 on 10 grams of test a week, who all know this guy who trained with this other guy and this is what they do, Keep calling bullshit on every reasonable dosage claim, its will be easier to call bullshit on the truth than accept your a genetic failure. That cycle is closer to 90% of what pros take than what GH15 would say, GH 15 opinions represnt a small lunatic fringe of bodybuilders, who like him never got anywhere, by trying to overcome average non pro genetics with mgs, just doesnt happen.
Very well said!
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Very well said!
1st post meltdown..... ::)
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I would seriously hate to see the physiques on all the retards here who call bullshit on cycles like that, all you experts who weigh 190 on 10 grams of test a week, who all know this guy who trained with this other guy and this is what they do, Keep calling bullshit on every reasonable dosage claim, its will be easier to call bullshit on the truth than accept your a genetic failure. That cycle is closer to 90% of what pros take than what GH15 would say, GH 15 opinions represnt a small lunatic fringe of bodybuilders, who like him never got anywhere, by trying to overcome average non pro genetics with mgs, just doesnt happen.
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I would seriously hate to see the physiques on all the retards here who call bullshit on cycles like that, all you experts who weigh 190 on 10 grams of test a week, who all know this guy who trained with this other guy and this is what they do, Keep calling bullshit on every reasonable dosage claim, its will be easier to call bullshit on the truth than accept your a genetic failure. That cycle is closer to 90% of what pros take than what GH15 would say, GH 15 opinions represnt a small lunatic fringe of bodybuilders, who like him never got anywhere, by trying to overcome average non pro genetics with mgs, just doesnt happen.
What do you think of Disgusted's (Magnum) posts here?
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16369&page=5
Not every pro does 5 grams and 20 ius of GH, but like I said the range is from 3 to 7 and GH is around 6 to 19, 19 being the highest a top 6 pro has ever admitted to me.
Doggcrapp, I have zero idea why you would ever believe someone like Tom Prince!! He was one of the biggest abusers ever! In fact a good friend of mine walked into his room I believe at that 2001 NOC and he said the room was all dark and there were what looked like dozens of used needles all over the bed and dresser. The guy had a huge nubain addiction. If you really believe this cycle he wrote then it pisses me off cause someone is pulling the wool over your eyes.
I admire anyone who can get in shape and win a show, but it is what it is. What I hate to see most is someone telling a guy that he can never be pro cause he has bad genetics all the while the guy that is telling him is 280 and on 4000 mgs a week and acting like he is something special. That F#$*(ing pisses me off!!!!
This is a fictitious cycle so stop trying to figure it out.
:D ;)
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I havent read to many of disgusteds posts, i agree with what ive read of his with regards to insulin in most cases, im not trying to outdo anyone, without getting into what ive done or havent done in the sport or who might know or might not know, i just feel theres a huge misconception that if your huge you have to be on unrealistic amounts.
We all know guys taking shitloads, the old an amp of sust daily, some two of them along with 20ius daily of HGH, but in my experiance the biggest abusers have always been the amateurs and the third tier pros, who are always trying to overcome genetic limitation with larger amounts of drugs.
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Bob and Tom ;D
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The best bodybuilding drug ever made was oxymentholone, i believe the biggest misconception in gear use is the overuse of test especially UG test if you have access to pharmecuetical grade test you wont need more than 1500mgs per week and using more than that your just increasing the side effects.
With regards to Disgusteds view on anabolics as opposed to androgens, i have a different point of view from my own bloodwork and experiance, i found that my body got better results from a higher androgenic to anabolic ratio, High doses of boldenone or deca also gave me higher RBC counts than when using test mg for mg or even at a level of test at 2 to 1 anabolic.
I also have found that anabolics work better with endomorphs and endomesomorphs, in my experiance an Ectomorph or ectomesomorph needs a higher ratio of androgens to anabolics. Pure mesomorphs can grow on anything in my experiance.
Endomorphs and endomesomorphs high anabolic to low androgenic ( 75 to 25 approx )
Mesomorphs medium anabolic medium androgenic ( 50 to 50 )
Ectomorphs to Ectomesomorphs high androgen to low anabolic. (75 to 25 approx )
This is only my point of view with regards to my experiance, others may and will be different.
All high androgenic drugs are also usually highly anabolic but what im getting at is levels of deca or boldenone to a form of test as the androgen with regards to body types.
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I havent read to many of disgusteds posts, i agree with what ive read of his with regards to insulin in most cases, im not trying to outdo anyone, without getting into what ive done or havent done in the sport or who might know or might not know, i just feel theres a huge misconception that if your huge you have to be on unrealistic amounts.
We all know guys taking shitloads, the old an amp of sust daily, some two of them along with 20ius daily of HGH, but in my experiance the biggest abusers have always been the amateurs and the third tier pros, who are always trying to overcome genetic limitation with larger amounts of drugs.
So in your opinion someone like Kamali is an abuser but Prince is honest and was using much smaller amounts? :D
Now from looking at King i would say, he doesn't downsize to much so max 6 to 8 week break if any, don't believe anything he says, believe me pros can even lie to themselves, so throw in one off season course as well, average 10iu jins day plus 1 to 2 amps sust with insulin say 12 weeks 84 days at say a $100 per day. So $8400
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:D Yes Prince may look very different now, but genetically hes on a different level to Kamali.
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Bob is a kind respectable guy and you should be happy because he replies and answers all of your questions always. 8)
I am glad since he is the Rep of the IFBB Athletes and he deserves to be the Rep of all Bodybuilders in the planet. ;)
Best of luck Bob :)
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Bob is a kind respectable guy and you should be happy because he replies and answers all of your questions always. 8)
I am glad since he is the Rep of the IFBB Athletes and he deserves to be the Rep of all Bodybuilders in the planet. ;)
Best of luck Bob :)
Hi Bob
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Bob, is this guy lying?
http://www.chadnicholls.net/forums/showpost.php?p=925551&postcount=38
How the hell would I know?
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How the hell would I know?
great post.
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One thing you have to consider is that is easier to maintain muscle on certain low dose X than it is to actually build it on certain low dose X. It's only the guys that "grow into a show" that have to resort to high doses precontest.
To put it another way, don't you guys think Prince could hold on to his muscle mass (and only that) on 2 grams of gear a week?
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How the hell would I know?
Well, reading this thread it sounded like you "knew" exactly what TP did. :D
But whatever, this shit is getting old. :D
I apply this to all bodybuilders:
don't believe anything he says, believe me pros can even lie to themselves,
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Well, reading this thread it sounded like you "knew" exactly what TP did. :D
But whatever, this shit is getting old. :D
I apply this to all bodybuilders:
So, I'm supposed to know the interactions between him and some anonymous guy telling a story on the internet??
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So, I'm supposed to know the interactions between him and some anonymous guy telling a story on the internet??
maybe "van bilderass" thinks you have ESP Bob.
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So, I'm supposed to know the interactions between him and some anonymous guy telling a story on the internet??
No, but since you know exactly what Tom did and didn't do you should be able to tell if that post was definitely BS. But whatever...
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Well...lets see...it was TOM'S cycle.
My cycle looked like MY cycle....
would you care sharing your cycle with us, Mr Chick :)
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Considering Chick shared many many things with his Best Friend Tommie Boy Prince.I guess Chicks Drug use would be Very similar.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . :-\