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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: dogpound on January 13, 2009, 10:31:19 PM
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Milk prices have gone back down. Why is whey still so expensive? >:(
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Probably because people will still pay for it.
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Just buy cottage cheese instead.
Fat Free Kroger Brand in Pints ( 90 grams of protein each )
I find I have to add way too much stuff to whey to make it palatable
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It won't drop because their ultra heavy anti-soy/anti vegetable based protein campaign has been very effective. Bodybuilders are now convinced they will grow tits if they take anything other than whey protein. There is no competition so it probably won't drop much until people start using more and more alternative cheaper protein sources.
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It won't drop because their ultra heavy anti-soy/anti vegetable based protein campaign has been very effective. Bodybuilders are now convinced they will grow tits if they take anything other than whey protein. There is no competition so it probably won't drop much until people start using more and more alternative cheaper protein sources.
Actually, I find casein to be more expensive than whey, which is a shame, because I'm gonna have to implement casein into my diet soon to prevent muscle breakdown. (I'm finishing my winter bulk soon.) Vitamin Shoppe brand whey is pretty cost-effective.
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It takes a bit for the companies to see that drop. There is no doubt the prices have dropped. You have to consider the volume companies have to purchase in. A lot of times rates are negotiated so a company knows the price will be steady over a 6-12 month period of time. I imagine you'll begin to see cheaper prices in about 4 months. It will take that long for the "new" reduced cost protein to get onto the shelves.
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It takes a bit for the companies to see that drop. There is no doubt the prices have dropped. You have to consider the volume companies have to purchase in. A lot of times rates are negotiated so a company knows the price will be steady over a 6-12 month period of time. I imagine you'll begin to see cheaper prices in about 4 months. It will take that long for the "new" reduced cost protein to get onto the shelves.
Cool. Hopefully the price will go down.
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Actually, I find casein to be more expensive than whey, which is a shame, because I'm gonna have to implement casein into my diet soon to prevent muscle breakdown. (I'm finishing my winter bulk soon.) Vitamin Shoppe brand whey is pretty cost-effective.
Well, you could get some cans of evaporated milk, which I've been doing over the last couple of months. The "Great Value" brand (Wal-Mart) cost $0.86 where I shop. Each can five you 24 grams of protein (19 grams of which is casein). You may have to get used to the taste, though.
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Champion Nutrition is selling their 5lb Pure whey for around $35 or so bucks.
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Actually, I find casein to be more expensive than whey, which is a shame, because I'm gonna have to implement casein into my diet soon to prevent muscle breakdown. (I'm finishing my winter bulk soon.) Vitamin Shoppe brand whey is pretty cost-effective.
milk protein is 80 % casien 20% whey...i believe its cheaper than why..
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ON whey protein used to be affordable on most internet companies but not its a bit ridiculous....i used to pay $26 not im paying $42 and thats after i looked around for the best price
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ON whey protein used to be affordable on most internet companies but not its a bit ridiculous....i used to pay $26 not im paying $42 and thats after i looked around for the best price
How many lbs do you get for $46?
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ON whey protein used to be affordable on most internet companies but not its a bit ridiculous....i used to pay $26 not im paying $42 and thats after i looked around for the best price
You are talking about the 5lb. Yes, Optimum Whey GOLD standard protein is around that price. They have a Classic protein which is cheaper, but you dont see that around as much.
Last year from January to September, prices of whey went up 2-3 times, each about $3. It was crazy, and being in a supplement distributor business, seeing the prices being passed on, we had no choice.
However, it the last three months, prices have come down, and we are just seeing the prices come down in Jan and Feb. Hopefully, more will follow.
Optimum though, has not taken a price decrease, but Champion did.
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i switched to optimum gold whey-i like it
i cant afford the isolyze 2 lbs for like 45 bucks anymore
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Optimum (back in the day) used to be the good old reliable cheap whey that was still a pretty good and consistent product. It's a shame to see they've moved and are no longer the 'budget' protein. Their 10lb. bags of whey used to go for like $50
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The cheapest Ive found has been EAS at Sam's Club. 5lbs for 29.99 plus tax
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The cheapest Ive found has been EAS at Sam's Club. 5lbs for 29.99 plus tax
EAS = all sugar.
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EAS = all sugar.
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Chocolate
Supplement Facts
Serving Size1Scoop(30g)
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value*
Calories 120
Calories From Fat 20
Total Fat 2g 3%
Saturated Fat 1g 4%
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 65mg 22%
Total Carbohydrate 3g 1%
Dietary Fiber <1g 1%
Sugars 1g
Protein 23g 46%
Calcium 139mg 15%
Iron <1mg 4%
Sodium 55mg 2%
Potassium 210mg 6%
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The cheapest Ive found has been EAS at Sam's Club. 5lbs for 29.99 plus tax
Another alternative is Body Fortress Whey protein, sold at Wal-Mart. The 2.19-lb jugs cost $13-$14 each. So, two fo them will run you $26-$28. And, it has 26g per serving as opposed to EAS' 23g per serving.
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supply and deman, example gas- the cost of gas has risen without any reason, but we will pay it
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yeah we need gas to get around though...if we REALLY wanted to we could boycott the protein-it would suck but it could happen...cant really do that with gas...you think its just supply and demand? or does anyone know of another reason why its going up?
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yeah we need gas to get around though...if we REALLY wanted to we could boycott the protein-it would suck but it could happen...cant really do that with gas...you think its just supply and demand? or does anyone know of another reason why its going up?
true but people "want" things so badly sometimes it becomes a "need". We dont need iphones but people will pay whatever the price to get one... see what im sayin
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I use to buy GNC brand 3lb. whey for 21.99 on sale, was there other day and was marked 39.99...that is just crazy....started buying from walmart and target for body fortress/sixstar products
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Chocolate
Supplement Facts
Serving Size1Scoop(30g)
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value*
Calories 120
Calories From Fat 20
Total Fat 2g 3%
Saturated Fat 1g 4%
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 65mg 22%
Total Carbohydrate 3g 1%
Dietary Fiber <1g 1%
Sugars 1g
Protein 23g 46%
Calcium 139mg 15%
Iron <1mg 4%
Sodium 55mg 2%
Potassium 210mg 6%
Im guessing they changed it now, I haven't bought EAS in about 5-6 years cause it used to be so godamn sugary tasting.
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BJ's wharehouse market carries EAS whey 5lb for 27.99. not the best stuff but not a bad price.
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I use to buy GNC brand 3lb. whey for 21.99 on sale, was there other day and was marked 39.99...that is just crazy....started buying from walmart and target for body fortress/sixstar products
you have to catch your gnc on one of their clearance weeks.....sometimes they might run parallel with the early month "use your card discount" week. I rarely "buy" alot from GNC but I do drop by this local one in a strip mall if i'm passing by to see of they have some "deals." I've picked up some stuff dirt cheap plus discount with the card and get another of the same item half off the already marked down price..etc.
not sure where you are located but I also have a vitamin shoppe in my area where everything is/was 40% off price. I stocked up pretty good there.
I haven't tried walmart, sams or costco just yet...i'm sure they have nice deals.
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Hey guys why are you messing around with the pricey depot's try buying whey in bulk. I recommend www.bulkwhey.com or www.allthewhey.com you won't be disappointed with the pricing or quality. For me this is the only whey to go (lol)
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Global collapse in milk prices wipe away dairy farmer profits
BARNHART, Mo. – A collapse in milk prices has wiped away the profits of dairy farmers, driving many out of business while forcing others to slaughter their herds or dump milk on the ground in protest. But nine months after prices began tumbling on the farm, consumers aren't seeing the full benefits of the crash at the checkout counter.
The average price for a gallon of milk at grocery stores last month is down just 19 percent from its peak of $3.83 in July. Farmers, on the other hand, got $1.04 a gallon in April — 35 percent less than they were paid last fall. This winter, wholesale prices were down as much as 45 percent.
Price disparities are a fact of life both for farmers and anyone who shops at a supermarket, but the nature of milk — how it's stored, priced and sold around the world — makes the gap all the more dramatic. In fact, the price that farmers get has been wildly volatile for years, creating a succession of booms and busts felt from pastures to the grocery store.
With each turn, proposals are floated to end the pricing seesaw, which at one extreme squeezes the profits of farmers and the other squeezes dairy processors. Any fix that boosts the price of milk runs the risk of bumping up how much consumers pay, too.
Today, frustrations are spilling over as the price crash creates widely divergent fortunes within the milk industry, boosting profits for the middlemen like dairy processors while pushing farmers to the edge of bankruptcy.
Darrell Kraus, a dairyman in Barnhart, spends almost as much today on hay and other supplies for his herd of 160 cows as he did a year ago, but he's getting paid less for a gallon of milk than his father in the 1970s. He blames middlemen who buy the milk from the dairies, process it and sell it to grocery stores at higher prices.
"Somebody's getting a cut of this, but it's not the dairy farmer," he said. "It's sad, but they're going to see a lot of dairy farms go out of business."
At a grocery store in Fayetteville, Ark., Katherine Thacker noticed how milk prices were slowly falling — but not as drastically as last year's price hikes. She was surprised to learn that the lower wholesale milk prices were being absorbed by dairy processors.
"That's kind of criminal, isn't it?" she said.
Milk processors and supermarkets see it differently.
Last fall and summer, they swallowed losses because of high wholesale milk prices and government-mandated ceilings on what they can charge. They're now recouping some of what they lost and anticipating a rise in prices this winter, said Mike Nosewicz, vice president of dairy operations at Cincinnati-based Kroger Co., which operates its own dairy processing division and sells milk through 2,400 supermarkets.
At the heart of the problem is the nature of milk. Unlike grain farmers who can hold out for better prices by storing crops in a silo, dairymen must sell raw milk to processors or else it spoils. And cows keep producing whether the economy's expanding or in recession.
The price paid by processors to farmers is set by the U.S. Department of Agriculture based on commodity markets, which rise and fall with global demand. Some of the raw milk is processed into milk for stores as well as butter, yogurt and other products for U.S. consumption. The rest becomes powdered milk, cheese and whey for international and domestic markets.
U.S. milk exports soared last year and demand grew in countries like China while supplies dropped from Europe and Australia. U.S dairy exports jumped to $3.82 billion, or 11 percent all milk production in 2008 according to the U.S. Dairy Export Council. Wholesale prices jumped.
Dairies responded to the demand by increasing production.
But once the global recession accelerated last fall, demand, particularly exports, fell off a cliff.
U.S. farmers were suddenly faced with too much milk and too many cows. Wholesale prices crashed. Farmers found themselves spending more to maintain their herds than they were being paid for raw milk.
"It's an inequity that cries out for attention, consideration and action," said Sen. Robert Casey, a Democrat from the dairy stronghold of Pennsylvania. Casey projects that 25 percent of his state's 7,400 dairy farms could disappear because of the crisis.
Casey said most lawmakers are focused on short-term solutions — loans or subsidies — to help farmers bridge the period of depressed prices. But he said Congress should also explore why processors and retailers are keeping their prices high while wholesale prices collapse.
Farmers also are lobbying for a bill that would change the USDA pricing system for milk so that wholesale prices reflect what they pay for feed, fuel and other supplies.
If that happens, milk would be the only commodity of its kind to have a government-set price determined in part by the cost of production, said Scott Brown, dairy analyst at The University of Missouri's Food and Agricultural Policy Research Institute.
"Anytime you put in place a policy that raises farm-level prices, those are going to get passed along to the consumer," he said.
U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack also said he is not eager to remake the USDA milk pricing program. Instead, he wants to see if a range of recent actions might buoy wholesale prices. USDA recently donated 500,000 pounds of excess powdered milk to needy countries to reduce U.S. supplies, and a new program will pay farmers to slaughter more than 100,000 dairy cows.
Some farmers say faster action is needed. They're dumping their milk on the ground to draw attention to the crisis.
Jan Morrow, a farmer in Cornell, Wis., dumped milk on May 4 to protest the lowest whosesale prices she's seen in 25 years of farming. If prices don't rise, she says she may have to sell her cows.
Eddy Lekkerkerk, a 42-year-old dairy farmer outside Filer, Idaho, planned to participate in another milk dump on May 31. But he fears he may not be in business that long. For five months, he hasn't made payments on the roughly $800,000 he borrows annually to buy feed for his herd of 1,000 cattle. He said his bank is forcing him to sell his herd to pay his debt.
He predicted many of his neighbors will have no choice but to follow him off the farm.
"It's going to be ugly. This is historic stuff going on," he said. "The dairymen are nervous, and they are scared."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090525/ap_on_bi_ge/dairy_squeeze
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I actually thought of the same question as the original post when i read the above news article on yahoo a couple of hours ago.
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It won't drop because their ultra heavy anti-soy/anti vegetable based protein campaign has been very effective. Bodybuilders are now convinced they will grow tits if they take anything other than whey protein. There is no competition so it probably won't drop much until people start using more and more alternative cheaper protein sources.
Give me ANY evidence that the dairy industry is behind the anti-soy movement. I beseech you.
You won't find it, because there is none. The soy industry suck it's own ship by promoting an inferior product and then touting it as an herbal remedy for menopause, champ.
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you have to catch your gnc on one of their clearance weeks.....sometimes they might run parallel with the early month "use your card discount" week. I rarely "buy" alot from GNC but I do drop by this local one in a strip mall if i'm passing by to see of they have some "deals." I've picked up some stuff dirt cheap plus discount with the card and get another of the same item half off the already marked down price..etc.
not sure where you are located but I also have a vitamin shoppe in my area where everything is/was 40% off price. I stocked up pretty good there.
I haven't tried walmart, sams or costco just yet...i'm sure they have nice deals.
That's the ticket. If you can't get any whey, look for some of the other protein powders. I just got a 20-serving box of GNC's Mega MRP, for $9.19 (clearance markdown of $11.49 with Gold Card Discount). It's like MET-Rx, only slightly more protein (40 grams vs. 37/38) and it has a couple grams of creatine.
This is a good thing, especially considering that MET-Rx is downsizing. Its "White Box" has reduced the number of servings from 20 to 18 but the price is the same (around $48).
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That's the ticket. If you can't get any whey, look for some of the other protein powders. I just got a 20-serving box of GNC's Mega MRP, for $9.19 (clearance markdown of $11.49 with Gold Card Discount). It's like MET-Rx, only slightly more protein (40 grams vs. 37/38) and it has a couple grams of creatine.
This is a good thing, especially considering that MET-Rx is downsizing. Its "White Box" has reduced the number of servings from 20 to 18 but the price is the same (around $48).
LOL. Do you get commissions from GNC MCWAY by telling people to go shop at GNC?
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LOL. Do you get commissions from GNC MCWAY by telling people to go shop at GNC?
;D
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LOL. Do you get commissions from GNC MCWAY by telling people to go shop at GNC?
GNC is going to pay me to tell others to shop at their stores, to buy products that are REDUCED IN PRICE 50-90% (i.e. minimal profit or LOSS for them)? ???
As I've said, I'll tell people to shop ANYWHERE that they can get great deals on protein powder and other items. Again, if you know of a store that offer 20-serving boxes of MRPs for under $10, let's hear about them, especially if they contain that lovely casein powder about which you've love to sing the praises.
I guess you also missed my thread last month about Vitamin Shoppe's "Buy One; Get one 50% off" sale on all Vitamin-Shoppe-brand products (including BodyTech).
As Rimbaud will tell you, that's how I got to try Gakic years ago (when the powder got discontinued and GNC dropped the prices BIG TIME, to clear it off the shelves).
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http://supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=10805&PHPSESSID=928e51fe74511f09b1288a6ffe60dd8b (http://supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=10805&PHPSESSID=928e51fe74511f09b1288a6ffe60dd8b)
Supplement Direct has started stocking unflavored Whey protein again. 5lb=$19.99/ 44lb=$149.99 :o
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http://supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=10805&PHPSESSID=928e51fe74511f09b1288a6ffe60dd8b (http://supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=10805&PHPSESSID=928e51fe74511f09b1288a6ffe60dd8b)
Supplement Direct has started stocking unflavored Whey protein again. 5lb=$19.99/ 44lb=$149.99 :o
YUCK!!!
I tried ON's unflavored whey and it tasted awful. But, it is worth it, IF there are no ungodly shipping prices to go along with that good discount.
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I've used their whey many times in the past, taste like watered down milk to me, but when I'm feeling flavor deprived I just add some crystal light or sugar free pudding. That 44lb bag would cost me with shipping a total of $176.43. I guess it all depends on where you live. Thats about $4 a pound, which is great for me ;D
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I just dont understand why people arent buying their stuff from TrueProtein.com
Affordable prices, very high quality, and you get your monies worth.
Its actually more cost effective than buy from the major brands. And youre getting more protein per serving than the other companies.